I used to do something similar, with a couple of modems, a pbx, and windows internet sharing. That was my slow internet test for a while. Not 300 baud, but good enough for what I was doing.
Ok, fighting makes a little more sense. But I still don't think the plan would work. if the university is fighting the RIAA, then they don't seem to be very successful. At best, this would just be another front in the existing battle. Unless I'm mistaken, they still seem to be sue happy.
if college students from places that are righting **AA put up fair use items.
Do you mean "writing"? what does "righting **AA" or "writing **AA" mean exactly?
Then when Warner and others go after these, then put the lawyers against the companies.
What lawyers? I thought they were students. Students probably couldn't summon their university lawyers, and most likely the lawyers would advise the students to take down infringing material. Maybe the whole "righting **AA" comes into play some how? Not sure how.
Once they feel the heat of lawyers, then things will change.
No, I'm pretty sure **IA has dealt with lawyers of all stripes before. They seem to be unaffected.
Again, I have only a vague idea what you are proposing, but unless there is a crazy catch 22 on the order of getting them to be as stupid as the associated press, I doubt it will work.
Hmm.. I think you are one of the first people I've encountered to suggest that it was anything other than just the internet. At first I blew off your opinion, but now that I think about it , you might be right. The newspapers content was designed to maximize revenue under a different climate where all news was difficult to find. So they needed sensational news to sell and stupid human interest stories to cover up the lack of actual news. When news became more widely available through the internet and cable news networks, they didn't change their cliched format.
The who, what and where are now easily found out. They need to focus on the why and how. Which they've traditionally ignored, in addition to removing the traditional filter they've had in editing peoples remarks. Let the idiots sound like idiots, and don't be afraid to let sane people call them idiots. They need to change the style as well. The news in Perioa should be differently presented than the news in New York.
I believe the point I was trying to make was that there were some successful websites who did have names similar to the subject of their content. As a counter point to google, amazon, ebay,ect. Now what makes a buisness sucessful? I don't know or care.
Yeah, it can by dynamically loaded into Java. So you can have this wonderful crazy java application that can modify its own behavior by creating a groovy file and then running it. Self modifying code is awesome. Or alternatively, its runtime behavior can be modified while its running, if you'd prefer. Fix the bug with out taking down the app!
Not sure if this would be a good thing in most peoples assessment, but it is in my crazy world.
Answer to all: No. If there are three parties, we'll have to vote for the lesser of three evils. If there are four, we'll choose the lesser of four evils. All candidates will have some level of evil in them. The Pope won't run for office, and even if he did, people would call him evil. If our only participation is that of voting, we won't get the leaders we desire. To really get the leader of your choice, you have to overwhelmingly convince a majority of people that your desired positions are the correct ones.
Can't find it for the life of me, But I once saw a series of bench marks showing superior postgres performance on freebsd against linux for high concurrency with cpu cores > 8.
Pretty funny that. If I worked in customs, I'd probably do the same thing. Imported bottled water, wouldn't pass my inspection without a couple drill holes in the package.
They are not sold legally in the US. I know its kind of hard to believe that the US Customs could be so porous as to let in such a dangerous and illegal product such as a chocolate covered toy. Or that our law enforcement would be so poor as to allow such items to remain on store shelves.
Uhm... Yes there are many crazy loop holes in our system as well, but raising taxes or passing a budget does not need 60 votes, only a simple majority ( with the current size of the senate that would be 51). Sixty votes are required to end discussion on a bill ( a filibuster), so the minority can block any piece of legislation as long as it has 41 votes. Maybe that's what you were thinking of?
And obviously the question was whether the cost of a mainframe is worth the benefits. It would have been nice if your comment would have contributed to the question at hand. By this comment its clear you do have experience with big iron. Have you ever done the cost comparison? It would be interesting to see some more realistic numbers than the shmoes like me are slinging.
It works both ways. What if the images being posted on google did encourage burglars? Where would they come from? If they came locally, then the wide announcement of their opulence and poor security could entice them just as much as having the images of their opulence and poor security on google.
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Yeah, obviously they work. Still can't believe people like outlook. Although, I'm not a fan of Notes either. Like I said, I don't have much experience on the enterprise level of support, but things like desktop administration and groupware don't seem like they're rocket science ( which actually isn't that difficult either). There must just be high start up costs with minimal expected returns to creating Open source software that would fill those niche's.
I'm not sure I have the domain experience, but it would be an intersting project.
Lets say for the load that is processed by each server, Google needs 8 gigs of memory. Which they can supply for $2,000 each. No lets be generous to IBM and its reliability and say that we need twice as many google servers per the equivalent ibm reliability.
We can replace 375 (1.5 TB of ram/8gigs per google mache * 2googlemachines/ibm equvalence) google servers per z10. Assuming each google server costs google $2000 to make, they would spend $750,000 on google servers. Now lets assume the IBM is better at power as well, to the tune of $10,000 per year and both expected lifetimes are 20 years. That comes out to a 20 year cost for google servers of $950,000.
If the ibm price for the z10, is greater than $950,000, then google should continue making their own servers. Otherwise, they should switch.
Obviously these are all ballpark figures, which I don't expect to be correct. There are quite a few variables and just because a mainframe may be more reliable and power efficient, it may not be the best choice even when dealing with hundreds ore even thousands of servers. Typically the price per performance unit ratio goes skyward as you move towards bigger and bigger servers.
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Sort of. Half joking. But really, there are way too many "enterprise Solutions" that aren't worth the disk space they occupy or copper they contain. Maybe its because its never been my job to administrate enterprise desktops, but I still don't understand what makes windows that much better in that regard. Active Directory just doesn't work the way I would expect it to. Neither does exchange. And I'm partially baffled that there hasn't been a better alternative to arise in the open source arena. Is it the need to replace the desktops gradually, while leaving the microsoft administration tools in place that forces an alternative to focus its energies on compatibility with the microsoft tools? Or is it the lack of linux desktops that hasn't created the demand for equivalent tools?
Chicken & the egg? Or Egg & the artificial incubator?
I don't think they are greener, but cheaper? Maybe. As for reliability, You have to keep in mind the whole map reduce framework is built around the idea that anything at anytime could fail. The compensate in numbers of servers and software for the lack of reliability of each one. No not every task or application is applicable to their set up. But, I believe them. I'm not into conspiracy theories.
Plus you also have to account for gradual scaling up & geographical distribution. Easy to do with additional low powered servers, difficult to do with giant expensive mainframes.
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- there's no way in hell I'd deploy it on an enterprise desktop because it's simply not ready to be used or administered.
Thats ok, there won't be many enterprises left in the current economic climate. Just small and medium businesses. So we can finally throw the enterprise crap out the window.
Google claims they did the math and found it was cheaper with commodity hardware. I advise everyone else to do the same and run the calculations for themselves to determine the optimal hardware for their particular load. With out the specifics of their situation, its difficult to criticize in an intelligent fashion, other than a more generalized statement expressing surprise at their configuration.
Gosh darn, it links is not related to lynx! Links has dangerous javascript support that could leave you vulnerable to cross site scripting, session hijacking, cross site request forgery, click jacking, and any other javascript based skulduggery.
No, I'm pretty much in favor of making fools out of everyone every day of the year. April 1st, is supposed to be *a* day of practical jokes, but practical jokes shouldn't be *limited* to April 1st.
FYI, making you think something absurd is true is sort of the point of a practical joke. So in this case... it worked... perfectly.
If anything, google and percona's patches for innodb demonstrate that the community is not dependent upon innobase/oracle to continue developing innodb. There is also the pbxt storage engine which seems to be farther along than falcon.
Its a PITA. The virtual machines come with hard coded expiration dates. You have to download new versions every couple of months. Its sucks. If this were an adequate solution, Microsoft wouldn't be creating another way to do it.
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I used to do something similar, with a couple of modems, a pbx, and windows internet sharing. That was my slow internet test for a while. Not 300 baud, but good enough for what I was doing.
Ok, fighting makes a little more sense. But I still don't think the plan would work. if the university is fighting the RIAA, then they don't seem to be very successful. At best, this would just be another front in the existing battle. Unless I'm mistaken, they still seem to be sue happy.
Do you mean "writing"? what does "righting **AA" or "writing **AA" mean exactly?
What lawyers? I thought they were students. Students probably couldn't summon their university lawyers, and most likely the lawyers would advise the students to take down infringing material. Maybe the whole "righting **AA" comes into play some how? Not sure how.
No, I'm pretty sure **IA has dealt with lawyers of all stripes before. They seem to be unaffected.
Again, I have only a vague idea what you are proposing, but unless there is a crazy catch 22 on the order of getting them to be as stupid as the associated press, I doubt it will work.
Hmm.. I think you are one of the first people I've encountered to suggest that it was anything other than just the internet. At first I blew off your opinion, but now that I think about it , you might be right. The newspapers content was designed to maximize revenue under a different climate where all news was difficult to find. So they needed sensational news to sell and stupid human interest stories to cover up the lack of actual news. When news became more widely available through the internet and cable news networks, they didn't change their cliched format.
The who, what and where are now easily found out. They need to focus on the why and how. Which they've traditionally ignored, in addition to removing the traditional filter they've had in editing peoples remarks. Let the idiots sound like idiots, and don't be afraid to let sane people call them idiots. They need to change the style as well. The news in Perioa should be differently presented than the news in New York.
I believe the point I was trying to make was that there were some successful websites who did have names similar to the subject of their content. As a counter point to google, amazon, ebay,ect. Now what makes a buisness sucessful? I don't know or care.
Yeah, it can by dynamically loaded into Java. So you can have this wonderful crazy java application that can modify its own behavior by creating a groovy file and then running it. Self modifying code is awesome. Or alternatively, its runtime behavior can be modified while its running, if you'd prefer. Fix the bug with out taking down the app! Not sure if this would be a good thing in most peoples assessment, but it is in my crazy world.
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Answer to all: No. If there are three parties, we'll have to vote for the lesser of three evils. If there are four, we'll choose the lesser of four evils. All candidates will have some level of evil in them. The Pope won't run for office, and even if he did, people would call him evil. If our only participation is that of voting, we won't get the leaders we desire. To really get the leader of your choice, you have to overwhelmingly convince a majority of people that your desired positions are the correct ones.
... Same as the old Boss.
Can't find it for the life of me, But I once saw a series of bench marks showing superior postgres performance on freebsd against linux for high concurrency with cpu cores > 8.
Pretty funny that. If I worked in customs, I'd probably do the same thing. Imported bottled water, wouldn't pass my inspection without a couple drill holes in the package.
They are not sold legally in the US. I know its kind of hard to believe that the US Customs could be so porous as to let in such a dangerous and illegal product such as a chocolate covered toy. Or that our law enforcement would be so poor as to allow such items to remain on store shelves.
Uhm... Yes there are many crazy loop holes in our system as well, but raising taxes or passing a budget does not need 60 votes, only a simple majority ( with the current size of the senate that would be 51). Sixty votes are required to end discussion on a bill ( a filibuster), so the minority can block any piece of legislation as long as it has 41 votes. Maybe that's what you were thinking of?
And obviously the question was whether the cost of a mainframe is worth the benefits. It would have been nice if your comment would have contributed to the question at hand. By this comment its clear you do have experience with big iron. Have you ever done the cost comparison? It would be interesting to see some more realistic numbers than the shmoes like me are slinging.
It works both ways. What if the images being posted on google did encourage burglars? Where would they come from? If they came locally, then the wide announcement of their opulence and poor security could entice them just as much as having the images of their opulence and poor security on google.
Yeah, obviously they work. Still can't believe people like outlook. Although, I'm not a fan of Notes either. Like I said, I don't have much experience on the enterprise level of support, but things like desktop administration and groupware don't seem like they're rocket science ( which actually isn't that difficult either). There must just be high start up costs with minimal expected returns to creating Open source software that would fill those niche's.
I'm not sure I have the domain experience, but it would be an intersting project.
Form a quick once over of from IBM ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/common/ssi/pm/sp/n/zsd03005usen/ZSD03005USEN.PDF
There z10 can hold a max of 1.5 tb of Ram
Lets say for the load that is processed by each server, Google needs 8 gigs of memory. Which they can supply for $2,000 each.
No lets be generous to IBM and its reliability and say that we need twice as many google servers per the equivalent ibm reliability.
We can replace 375 (1.5 TB of ram /8gigs per google mache * 2googlemachines/ibm equvalence) google servers per z10.
Assuming each google server costs google $2000 to make, they would spend $750,000 on google servers. Now lets assume the IBM is better at power as well, to the tune of $10,000 per year and both expected lifetimes are 20 years. That comes out to a 20 year cost for google servers of $950,000.
If the ibm price for the z10, is greater than $950,000, then google should continue making their own servers. Otherwise, they should switch.
Obviously these are all ballpark figures, which I don't expect to be correct. There are quite a few variables and just because a mainframe may be more reliable and power efficient, it may not be the best choice even when dealing with hundreds ore even thousands of servers. Typically the price per performance unit ratio goes skyward as you move towards bigger and bigger servers.
Sort of. Half joking. But really, there are way too many "enterprise Solutions" that aren't worth the disk space they occupy or copper they contain. Maybe its because its never been my job to administrate enterprise desktops, but I still don't understand what makes windows that much better in that regard. Active Directory just doesn't work the way I would expect it to. Neither does exchange. And I'm partially baffled that there hasn't been a better alternative to arise in the open source arena. Is it the need to replace the desktops gradually, while leaving the microsoft administration tools in place that forces an alternative to focus its energies on compatibility with the microsoft tools? Or is it the lack of linux desktops that hasn't created the demand for equivalent tools?
Chicken & the egg? Or Egg & the artificial incubator?
I don't think they are greener, but cheaper? Maybe. As for reliability, You have to keep in mind the whole map reduce framework is built around the idea that anything at anytime could fail. The compensate in numbers of servers and software for the lack of reliability of each one. No not every task or application is applicable to their set up. But, I believe them. I'm not into conspiracy theories.
Plus you also have to account for gradual scaling up & geographical distribution. Easy to do with additional low powered servers, difficult to do with giant expensive mainframes.
Thats ok, there won't be many enterprises left in the current economic climate. Just small and medium businesses. So we can finally throw the enterprise crap out the window.
Google claims they did the math and found it was cheaper with commodity hardware. I advise everyone else to do the same and run the calculations for themselves to determine the optimal hardware for their particular load. With out the specifics of their situation, its difficult to criticize in an intelligent fashion, other than a more generalized statement expressing surprise at their configuration.
Gosh darn, it links is not related to lynx! Links has dangerous javascript support that could leave you vulnerable to cross site scripting, session hijacking, cross site request forgery, click jacking, and any other javascript based skulduggery.
No, I'm pretty much in favor of making fools out of everyone every day of the year. April 1st, is supposed to be *a* day of practical jokes, but practical jokes shouldn't be *limited* to April 1st.
... it worked ... perfectly.
FYI, making you think something absurd is true is sort of the point of a practical joke. So in this case
If anything, google and percona's patches for innodb demonstrate that the community is not dependent upon innobase/oracle to continue developing innodb. There is also the pbxt storage engine which seems to be farther along than falcon.
Its a PITA. The virtual machines come with hard coded expiration dates. You have to download new versions every couple of months. Its sucks. If this were an adequate solution, Microsoft wouldn't be creating another way to do it.