Right, and you report everything you buy on Amazon to your state and pay sales tax on it, right? Because a lot of people engage in similar types of 'evasion.'
Ironically, this would actually qualify as "tax evasion", because the buyer is evading paying taxes that he/she owes.
What Boeing (purportedly) does is not tax evasion at all. It is taking steps to not even OWE tax, and so therefore, they can't be evading tax. What Boeing (purportedly) does is similar to driving two towns over to buy a big ticket item because their sales tax is cheaper (or nonexistent) there.
My father has a PhD in Electrical Engineering and worked all of his career at Bell Laboratories until they basically did a "retire or else" so they could get rid of all of their experienced people and successfully destroy this countries greatest single source of invention and technological innovation EVER. As you say, it was not actually possible for someone his age to find a job, so he has basically been doing freelance circuit design through my consulting company. In case anyone is looking for that sort of thing, he does have some free time.
I believe it is up to you what you are going to get out of University. I'm sure there are people who skate through and get a diploma, but if you look at what electives a person took, then you can get an idea what their motivation was. Did they take Basket Weaving or did they take Advanced Signal Theory?
When I came out of university, I had not learned many trade skills (other than what I learned working my way through university), but what I did learn helped me to adapt to new situations and learn new things much more quickly. It never took me a year to become useful as one of your other repliers mentioned. If I didn't contribute the first week I felt like a slacker. In some cases, I was making improvements on day 1.
1. I haven't bought an EA game in years.
2. If everyone follows my example, they won't change their policies, they'll blame it on piracy.
Not if you (and therefore everybody) in addition to not buying it, also don't pirate it. A game company can tell if there is just nobody playing at all. No support calls, nothing in forums anywhere. It would be obvious that just nobody was playing the game legitimately or illegitimately.
I think people are entirely too comfortable with the safety of their cars. They don't worry about rear-ending you because they know their airbag will go off and save them. You, on the other hand are likely to get whiplash because there is not an airbag in your headrest.
I think instead of putting an airbag in the steering wheel, they should put a rusty iron pike. I believe this will promote safer driving.
Actually, I think I led earlier on with how ridiculous this was, since screaming kids are a bigger distraction than your phone.
Surly screaming kids are not a distraction at all. i would assume the parents would just ignore them, just like they do when they take them to a restaurant.
I've written half a million lines of code in the last 4 years
No, you have not. That's more than 300 lines of code for every day of those four years, or almost 500 per workday: A line for every minute of the workday. You may have generated half a million lines of code, but if you wrote 500000 lines, I assure you that you wrote lines of crap, not code.
Sure I have. I don't know where you work where there are only 300 minutes in a day, but my typical workweek for the last 6 years has been 60 hours a week. I've had basically no vacations, and at the very beginning I was really into what I was doing and was excited about it and it was saving the company tens of thousands of dollars a month because it replaced a horribly inefficient system that the operations staff was using where you had to do a dozen mouse clicks and have four different browser windows up cutting and pasting back and forth to accomplish a given task. I wrote most of that code in the first two years and it has been slowing down ever since.
Today, on the other hand, I am lucky if I get 100 lines of code written, and a lot of the time I am rewriting what I did before to make it more efficient. But mostly, I am stuck supporting some really awful VB code that I inherited from some people who apparently learned programming in a clean room where there are no exceptions, timeouts, network issues or other problems. So nowadays I spend the first 10 hours of my day dealing with that crap, and then I am lucky if I am able to do 100 lines of code after that because I am so worn out.
Nope. Although I could and did do web development for fun, I actually started as a Unix administrator, then went to being a database administrator, and then a datawarehouse developer and database replication administrator in those two years.
I know about subnetting but I didn't lean it in college. Can I "do" subnetting? Absolutely, just need a couple of minutes with the owner's manual of the particular hardware and failing that, google.
If what you are saying is true, then we need to outlaw universities and make everybody go to trade schools and community colleges, where they can turn out IT factory workers who are trained in a task, not how to figure out how to do a task.
Sounds like you need to hire me. I could have done what he did in Java in 30 minutes. I've written half a million lines of code in the last 4 years and written a workflow system that handles hundreds of thousands of transactions per day.
Why does a "US worker" need so much more than an H1-B immigrant? Do they eat more expensive food?
How is it possible that an immigrant (who makes so much less than their US counterpart) can manage to survive in the USA with such a low salary AND have enough to help his family back home and eventually go back home to start a business? Whereas, as is claimed, if a US worker made that salary, he'd barely survive? It doesn't add up.
Oh, that's easy. You see, the American worker's family lives in America and so he has to pay American prices for goods and services. While an H1b worker's family lives in India, and sending home $1,000 a month is enough to let their family live in the manner of the top 1% in America. Also, the H1bs are willing to live with 6 people in a two bedroom apartment in the short run, knowing that they will go back to a huge house in India with the wages they earned here.
Beggars can't be choosers. If there is indeed this mythical horde of talented tech workers out there looking for work, surely they would prefer any job to no job. So, where are they all?
They gave up and took jobs as restaurant or retail managers or some other position that pays more.
At my company, we have literally had two people quit to go into Ministry, and got paid more in the Ministry than they did at my company.
Talent has nothing to do with it. I can get dozens of jobs at any moment but not one that pays over 50K because a foreign worker will do the same job for 30K. I made 70K when I was 23 (2003) 75-80K when I was 25- 27 doing the same job with less experience.
Me too. I know I have talent because I literally went from making $40k in 1996 to $180k in 1998 because companies kept stealing me away from each other. I was 28 at the time. Now I make under $100k. Not too bad by average wage standards, but pretty pathetic for someone with 3 times the experience I had when I made $180k and who works 50% more hours than what I did back then.
At higher levels, they focus on "Purple Squirrels" -- hard to meet combinations that aren't available -- instead of people who can do the job well.
Must speak and write fluent Hindi or Urdu. Must be able to score above 90% on a test on the Geography of India. Must have a social security or tax number that starts with a 9.
Gorsh, 23 years of experience here, and never heard of FizzBuzz. But I guess it is not a test of development skills, but a child's game that they are failing to implement. That is pretty sad, considering I wrote a complete working Monopoly program in 16k on my TRS-80 in 7th grade.
I'm not sure what an IT degree is, but I wouldn't expect a college graduate to know subnetting coming out unless he happened to work in the computer lab. While college does teach you things, it is mostly there to teach you how to learn, so that when you get out in the real world and run into something that you haven't done before, you will be better equipped to learn it.
If you want someone who knows subnetting right out of school hire from a trade school. If you want someone who will be able to troubleshoot an issue that he/she has never seen before, hire a college graduate.
Prevailing wage is already a joke WITHOUT H1b shenanigans. Prevailing wage is used to keep people from getting a raise when they really deserve one. If you have reached the "salary cap" for your position, in order to get a raise, you have to be changed to manager or director, even if you have no one to manage! The upside for HR is that if the highest paid programmer becomes the lowest paid programmer manager, then the average wage of the people in both of these positions goes DOWN.
The whole argument for H1b is that we can't find local labor for a particular niche of skills. The H1Bs they are bringing in are run of the mill programmers, database admins, IT admins and whatnot. There are literally hundreds of local candidates for each one of these positions filled by an H1b.
You don't have to actually have all the skills they ask for. You just have to lie about them. That is what the H1B placement companies do. Sometimes you get found out, and other times, nobody knows any better. At a local company, a guy did a phone interview and seemed to really know his stuff. Then when he showed up, he couldn't do anything, and spent hours a day calling back to the home office. it soon became apparent that they pulled the old bait and switch. Somebody else with an Indian accent did the tech interview, then they sent some poor slob who didn't know anything other than how to dial the 1-800 number, and yet they wanted to be paid $100 an hour for his time. He and his company got booted. But a less aware company would have just got fooled by these underhanded tactics.
Exactly. These companies have exactly zero citizens employed at the consulting level, and yet they year after year clamor for more and more H1-bs to fill their ranks. I have been approached by these companies before, but as soon as they find out you are not on an H1b then you never hear from them again. They are the proof in the pudding that H1bs lower wages and that the only reason we need any H1bs is to keep the cost of labor down.
So if we were to fulfill that analogy you would have to expect there are vacuum cleaners that already exist that run without electricity -- as almost all the games I own run without an internet connection. Now, a new vacuum cleaner comes out but it is required to always be plugged into the wall and it will only work if it is connected to a service that costs me a monthly payment. Correct, I would not buy this "new" vacuum cleaner as I have tons of old vacuums that somehow manage to get the job done without the need of electricity.
Also, with this "new" vacuum cleaner, if you get 95% of the way done vacuuming the house and then the electricity goes out, the whole house becomes dirty again and you have to start over when the electricity comes back on.
Having noticed that there is no attribution to any specific politician in the summary I'm just going to assume it's a Democrat. Otherwise there would be a great big (R) next to state senator so-and-so's name.
I DID RTFA and you are exactly right. It was a Democrat. That's why it wasn't mentioned in TFS.
Yes, but the government can't do an end run around the constitution by making a law saying that somebody else is allowed to do violate your constitutional rights. If that were the case, then we might as well not have a constitution at all.
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Right, and you report everything you buy on Amazon to your state and pay sales tax on it, right? Because a lot of people engage in similar types of 'evasion.'
Ironically, this would actually qualify as "tax evasion", because the buyer is evading paying taxes that he/she owes.
What Boeing (purportedly) does is not tax evasion at all. It is taking steps to not even OWE tax, and so therefore, they can't be evading tax. What Boeing (purportedly) does is similar to driving two towns over to buy a big ticket item because their sales tax is cheaper (or nonexistent) there.
My father has a PhD in Electrical Engineering and worked all of his career at Bell Laboratories until they basically did a "retire or else" so they could get rid of all of their experienced people and successfully destroy this countries greatest single source of invention and technological innovation EVER. As you say, it was not actually possible for someone his age to find a job, so he has basically been doing freelance circuit design through my consulting company. In case anyone is looking for that sort of thing, he does have some free time.
I believe it is up to you what you are going to get out of University. I'm sure there are people who skate through and get a diploma, but if you look at what electives a person took, then you can get an idea what their motivation was. Did they take Basket Weaving or did they take Advanced Signal Theory?
When I came out of university, I had not learned many trade skills (other than what I learned working my way through university), but what I did learn helped me to adapt to new situations and learn new things much more quickly. It never took me a year to become useful as one of your other repliers mentioned. If I didn't contribute the first week I felt like a slacker. In some cases, I was making improvements on day 1.
1. I haven't bought an EA game in years. 2. If everyone follows my example, they won't change their policies, they'll blame it on piracy.
Not if you (and therefore everybody) in addition to not buying it, also don't pirate it. A game company can tell if there is just nobody playing at all. No support calls, nothing in forums anywhere. It would be obvious that just nobody was playing the game legitimately or illegitimately.
I think people are entirely too comfortable with the safety of their cars. They don't worry about rear-ending you because they know their airbag will go off and save them. You, on the other hand are likely to get whiplash because there is not an airbag in your headrest.
I think instead of putting an airbag in the steering wheel, they should put a rusty iron pike. I believe this will promote safer driving.
Actually, I think I led earlier on with how ridiculous this was, since screaming kids are a bigger distraction than your phone.
Surly screaming kids are not a distraction at all. i would assume the parents would just ignore them, just like they do when they take them to a restaurant.
I've written half a million lines of code in the last 4 years
No, you have not. That's more than 300 lines of code for every day of those four years, or almost 500 per workday: A line for every minute of the workday. You may have generated half a million lines of code, but if you wrote 500000 lines, I assure you that you wrote lines of crap, not code.
Sure I have. I don't know where you work where there are only 300 minutes in a day, but my typical workweek for the last 6 years has been 60 hours a week. I've had basically no vacations, and at the very beginning I was really into what I was doing and was excited about it and it was saving the company tens of thousands of dollars a month because it replaced a horribly inefficient system that the operations staff was using where you had to do a dozen mouse clicks and have four different browser windows up cutting and pasting back and forth to accomplish a given task. I wrote most of that code in the first two years and it has been slowing down ever since.
Today, on the other hand, I am lucky if I get 100 lines of code written, and a lot of the time I am rewriting what I did before to make it more efficient. But mostly, I am stuck supporting some really awful VB code that I inherited from some people who apparently learned programming in a clean room where there are no exceptions, timeouts, network issues or other problems. So nowadays I spend the first 10 hours of my day dealing with that crap, and then I am lucky if I am able to do 100 lines of code after that because I am so worn out.
Doesn't that suggest that your $180k salary was a non-sustainable, hype-driven bubble, more than it suggests your current sub-$100k is H1-B-deflated?
Well, no, because I made $180k until the day that let me go after they felt I had trained the H1Bs replacing me sufficiently.
So, you were likely some webby developer type.
Nope. Although I could and did do web development for fun, I actually started as a Unix administrator, then went to being a database administrator, and then a datawarehouse developer and database replication administrator in those two years.
I know about subnetting but I didn't lean it in college. Can I "do" subnetting? Absolutely, just need a couple of minutes with the owner's manual of the particular hardware and failing that, google.
If what you are saying is true, then we need to outlaw universities and make everybody go to trade schools and community colleges, where they can turn out IT factory workers who are trained in a task, not how to figure out how to do a task.
Sounds like you need to hire me. I could have done what he did in Java in 30 minutes. I've written half a million lines of code in the last 4 years and written a workflow system that handles hundreds of thousands of transactions per day.
Why does a "US worker" need so much more than an H1-B immigrant? Do they eat more expensive food?
How is it possible that an immigrant (who makes so much less than their US counterpart) can manage to survive in the USA with such a low salary AND have enough to help his family back home and eventually go back home to start a business? Whereas, as is claimed, if a US worker made that salary, he'd barely survive? It doesn't add up.
Oh, that's easy. You see, the American worker's family lives in America and so he has to pay American prices for goods and services. While an H1b worker's family lives in India, and sending home $1,000 a month is enough to let their family live in the manner of the top 1% in America. Also, the H1bs are willing to live with 6 people in a two bedroom apartment in the short run, knowing that they will go back to a huge house in India with the wages they earned here.
Beggars can't be choosers. If there is indeed this mythical horde of talented tech workers out there looking for work, surely they would prefer any job to no job. So, where are they all?
They gave up and took jobs as restaurant or retail managers or some other position that pays more.
At my company, we have literally had two people quit to go into Ministry, and got paid more in the Ministry than they did at my company.
Talent has nothing to do with it. I can get dozens of jobs at any moment but not one that pays over 50K because a foreign worker will do the same job for 30K. I made 70K when I was 23 (2003) 75-80K when I was 25- 27 doing the same job with less experience.
Me too. I know I have talent because I literally went from making $40k in 1996 to $180k in 1998 because companies kept stealing me away from each other. I was 28 at the time. Now I make under $100k. Not too bad by average wage standards, but pretty pathetic for someone with 3 times the experience I had when I made $180k and who works 50% more hours than what I did back then.
At higher levels, they focus on "Purple Squirrels" -- hard to meet combinations that aren't available -- instead of people who can do the job well.
Must speak and write fluent Hindi or Urdu. Must be able to score above 90% on a test on the Geography of India. Must have a social security or tax number that starts with a 9.
Gorsh, 23 years of experience here, and never heard of FizzBuzz. But I guess it is not a test of development skills, but a child's game that they are failing to implement. That is pretty sad, considering I wrote a complete working Monopoly program in 16k on my TRS-80 in 7th grade.
I'm not sure what an IT degree is, but I wouldn't expect a college graduate to know subnetting coming out unless he happened to work in the computer lab. While college does teach you things, it is mostly there to teach you how to learn, so that when you get out in the real world and run into something that you haven't done before, you will be better equipped to learn it.
If you want someone who knows subnetting right out of school hire from a trade school. If you want someone who will be able to troubleshoot an issue that he/she has never seen before, hire a college graduate.
Prevailing wage is already a joke WITHOUT H1b shenanigans. Prevailing wage is used to keep people from getting a raise when they really deserve one. If you have reached the "salary cap" for your position, in order to get a raise, you have to be changed to manager or director, even if you have no one to manage! The upside for HR is that if the highest paid programmer becomes the lowest paid programmer manager, then the average wage of the people in both of these positions goes DOWN.
The whole argument for H1b is that we can't find local labor for a particular niche of skills. The H1Bs they are bringing in are run of the mill programmers, database admins, IT admins and whatnot. There are literally hundreds of local candidates for each one of these positions filled by an H1b.
You don't have to actually have all the skills they ask for. You just have to lie about them. That is what the H1B placement companies do. Sometimes you get found out, and other times, nobody knows any better. At a local company, a guy did a phone interview and seemed to really know his stuff. Then when he showed up, he couldn't do anything, and spent hours a day calling back to the home office. it soon became apparent that they pulled the old bait and switch. Somebody else with an Indian accent did the tech interview, then they sent some poor slob who didn't know anything other than how to dial the 1-800 number, and yet they wanted to be paid $100 an hour for his time. He and his company got booted. But a less aware company would have just got fooled by these underhanded tactics.
Exactly. These companies have exactly zero citizens employed at the consulting level, and yet they year after year clamor for more and more H1-bs to fill their ranks. I have been approached by these companies before, but as soon as they find out you are not on an H1b then you never hear from them again. They are the proof in the pudding that H1bs lower wages and that the only reason we need any H1bs is to keep the cost of labor down.
So if we were to fulfill that analogy you would have to expect there are vacuum cleaners that already exist that run without electricity -- as almost all the games I own run without an internet connection. Now, a new vacuum cleaner comes out but it is required to always be plugged into the wall and it will only work if it is connected to a service that costs me a monthly payment. Correct, I would not buy this "new" vacuum cleaner as I have tons of old vacuums that somehow manage to get the job done without the need of electricity. Also, with this "new" vacuum cleaner, if you get 95% of the way done vacuuming the house and then the electricity goes out, the whole house becomes dirty again and you have to start over when the electricity comes back on.
Having noticed that there is no attribution to any specific politician in the summary I'm just going to assume it's a Democrat. Otherwise there would be a great big (R) next to state senator so-and-so's name.
I DID RTFA and you are exactly right. It was a Democrat. That's why it wasn't mentioned in TFS.
Yes, but the government can't do an end run around the constitution by making a law saying that somebody else is allowed to do violate your constitutional rights. If that were the case, then we might as well not have a constitution at all.