Artists say they can't make money from teeshirts and touring,
right. So thier last tour bombed, and they decide to blame it on napster instead of the fact that they SUCK;-) Seriously, I fail to see how this inhibits successful tours. If anything, a broadened fanbase promotes higher attendance at shows. I'm speaking from experience here; if people know who you are, then when you come to town they're more likely to see you than if they didn't. And if the artist is concerned about getting kicked off the label, learn the business end and start your own fscking label. It doesn't take much, and it's about 400% more profitable for the artist.
If these crap-ass alterna-rock bands can't live without the major label perks and freebies, then maybe they shouldn't have been so quick to quit their day jobs, eh?
Good film, but a much better read. Yeah, I know they were both done by the same guy, and that the manga came later, but it is FAR superior, and delves far more into the ecology (as you'd expect. you can only squeeze so much into a cartoon), thus making it more relevant;-)
Most comic book shops should have the re-issues in a 4 volume digest, so it should be pretty easy to find.
(incidentally, I do my cat faces slightly differently == )
I'm a HUGE Kubrick fan, as I believe lots of people here are. Spielberg and Kubrick have had a long-lasting friendship, but to me it always seemed like the kid brother trying to impress. Spielberg would send Stanley prints of his films before they were released. Kubrick made Spielberg wait just like the rest of the world.
BUT, Kubrick cancelled a holocaust project because Spielberg wanted to do Schindler's List (which was a good, if not formulaic movie). AI has had more rumors flying around it than any other film I can think of. It WILL end up a good movie, because the premise is pretty good (in my opinion, you can't recycle Blade Runner too many times;-) However, Spielberg is not the director that Kubrick was. The differences? Spielberg films ALWAYS tug at your heartstrings EXACTLY where you'd expect them to. Spielberg films are visual, and straight forward.
Kubrick? His films are much more subtle. His films are deep and symbolic. His movies make you THINK, which is what I believe seperates art from entertainment. The Shining is creepy. Eyes Wide Shut stayed with me for WEEKS after seeing it. Clockwork Orange was terrifying (though the book was more so; Alex grows up, showing the atrocities of the rest of the book as nothing more than normal teen angst and the progressing to a "normal" person).
So will it be good? Yes. I have high hopes for this film. But as far as exciting geeky films, I'll wait for Lord of the Rings. Hell, even the Matrix sequels will be deeper than AI now.
They could have named it Dotedu. Or Dotnet. Actually, I kinda like dotnet. Or Dotcouk. It's a good thing that TLD isn't enforced, or it would have to be named Dotcomus (which brings up the topic of 70's obscure pagan folk music, but that's another story;-) Or they could have named it gnarphlager.
I should stop. I'm having way too much fun with this.
depends on your tradition, really. You can trace a swastika, fylfot, crooked cross, whatever back as far as you want to go. It's shown up in cultures as diverse as egyptian and japanese, each taking on a different meaning. Symbols are all relative anyway. I have alot of interest in brittish paganisim (as opposed to the lame-ass wiccans of today), so that's where my interest in swastikas stems from. Interesting to note that around 500ad the swastika was used as the cross of christ by the christian church, in yet another attempt to gain followers by assimilating local pagan traditions and symbols. Really fascinating stuff, and I wholely believe that the symbol will come back "in vogue" in a couple hundred years, after the Nazi distaste fades a little.
. . . that might BE the intent. That's the fundamental difference between surrealism and nonsense. The above CAN be interpreted, and there is meaning. But it is perceived consciously as nonsense, so it's glazed over. But subconsciously you looked for meaning, and perhaps subconsciously you got it, but were struggling pulling from the back to the front. Either way you both a) focused on it and b) let it influence you at least on some level. And thus art and surrealisim become in some ways MORE effective communication, because the ego doesn't step in during the interpretation.
which was the point I was making. And I get offtopic and funny. Typical;-)
liver tonuges under goldfish. your egg underneath a telephone wax not unto signal fires dismissal night. BSD concave north button mother pirate other futon! Boxes! Boxes BOXES! Their your our their our our my your. Silver finger people dried ruler. Number meaning star whirl block buddy. Money storage gallon expert library plenty tax the to to two the the two the to.
Once plaid insurance nurse junk early mate hand revised memory stop me practical this a this. Real garden Christ future decomposed designate digits. Private medicine aardvark unless devices and services. Mistaken Lumpar impending eligibility. Hungry vagabonds! You own ham warlords glass household juices.
Most people fail to realize, but Dune is very important in geek culture for the self-referential metaphors. All geeks realize the importance of self-reference. Take, for example, this post on Slashdot discussing metaphors in Dune. It CLEARLY references itself, and thus gives a good example of self-reference. It also uses the expression "self-reference" more times than any valid post should. But I digress.
I'm sure you understand the relationship to the freemen and free software. Though it's been quite a while since I've read the book, I seem to recall "freemen" being spelled with only two "e"s. I could be wrong though, so I choose to continue spelling it logically. If I'm going to look stupid, which I often do (I point your attention to my recent post on slashdot regarding Geek Metaphors in Dune), then at least I'm going to admit it, and look stupid in my own special way. But I digress.
The freemen live in caves in the desert in the Dune books. They are unwashed and seen as lunatics by the more civilized Houses. This is clearly a metaphor for free software programmers. The desert, however, is to be taken literally. Most free software programmers live in caves in the desert. I mean, it only stands to reason. Believe it or not, those caves are mighty chilly, and saves trouble of cooling the server rooms. Though nothing is quite like the pleasure of an ice cold server room. Set aside getting out of summer heat, it lets you wear your all too geeky Mr.Rodgers-esque sweater all year round. I don't know about you, but I certainly like sweaters. But I digress.
And then there are the sandworms. Giant beasts that burrows through the soil. If ever there has been an obvious metaphor for worm-type viruses, this is it. And worm viruses would not exist without people to program them. Sure, that sort of thing might be a good way to understand how protocols and programming works, but any good hacker grows out of that stuff after high school. Angst-fueled education seems to be very prevailent. But the important thing is to not regret it. Sure, I'm not PROUD of alot of the things I've done in the past, and I'd never do it again, but I DID do it. There's nothing that can be accomplished by feeling sorry about everything I've ever done. Take for example the time that I found the dying man behind the 7-11. Yeah, I could have, and likely should have called an ambulance. But I hadn't eaten in a few days, and truth be told I was dead broke. If I had spent more time programming useful software, instead of releasing everything "free", then maybe I could have bought a taco or two. But no one was around, and I made sure not to leave any fingerprints. And it gave me a chance to use that new meatloaf pan my mother bought me for my birthday. Oh, mother, what you don't know . . .
. . . here in pittsburgh have been claiming credit for the attacks already. But then again, I suppose everyone and their script-kiddie brother is. Quite honestly I don't believe that we'll ever know who did it, but I'm sure we'll have someone to crucify for it. The government seems to be pretty good about that.
Hmmm. Since when has the FBI been a software vendor? Honestly, I don't recall too many products in the past (can anyone provide better info?). Which doesn't mean they couldn't or haven't, but I like to check the track record, yanno?
how much is that judge in the window, the one with the waggley tail? how much is that judge in the window? I DO hope that judge is for sale . . . </singing>
DAMNIT. Netscape caught me out with that Opera floozy again. Let alone Mozilla . . . that's like doinking your partner's sibling!!!! And who KNOWS what sort of disease I'll pick up with IE . . . . .
Why re-invent the wheel everytime. why not? at least that way you know it's YOUR wheel, and if there are any problems you know who to blame. Of course, I'm over ambitious and twice as arrogant;-)
. . . it likely IS thier linux. From what I understand, the first LinuxOne beta was a BARELY modified RedHat; where they didn't even finish changing all the names from "RedHat" to "LinuxOne". I personally haven't seen the beta, or the first release that came out ONE MONTH later, but I don't imagnie all that much changed in that short of time.
Personally, I'm not sure I really see the significance of this. Big blue likes linux. Okay, fine. They'll sell servers running linux. Neat. But what are they going to do to develop linux? Are they going to contribute to the community, or are they just going to make a quick buck on everyone else's work without having to worry about NT licencing fee. Don't get me wrong; it's great to see more linux servers and workstations in the world, and any exposure is good exposure, but if anyone has the means to help development, it's IBM.
Too many corporations are looking at linux as a finished product, rather than a work in progress. It's not.
Slashdot Mirror
Artists say they can't make money from teeshirts and touring,
;-) Seriously, I fail to see how this inhibits successful tours. If anything, a broadened fanbase promotes higher attendance at shows. I'm speaking from experience here; if people know who you are, then when you come to town they're more likely to see you than if they didn't. And if the artist is concerned about getting kicked off the label, learn the business end and start your own fscking label. It doesn't take much, and it's about 400% more profitable for the artist.
right. So thier last tour bombed, and they decide to blame it on napster instead of the fact that they SUCK
If these crap-ass alterna-rock bands can't live without the major label perks and freebies, then maybe they shouldn't have been so quick to quit their day jobs, eh?
Good film, but a much better read. Yeah, I know they were both done by the same guy, and that the manga came later, but it is FAR superior, and delves far more into the ecology (as you'd expect. you can only squeeze so much into a cartoon), thus making it more relevant ;-)
Most comic book shops should have the re-issues in a 4 volume digest, so it should be pretty easy to find.
(incidentally, I do my cat faces slightly differently == )
I telecommute part-time. When I'm at home I get more work done, and use my time more efficiently. When I'm at work I spend time here. Go figure.
I'm a HUGE Kubrick fan, as I believe lots of people here are. Spielberg and Kubrick have had a long-lasting friendship, but to me it always seemed like the kid brother trying to impress. Spielberg would send Stanley prints of his films before they were released. Kubrick made Spielberg wait just like the rest of the world.
;-) However, Spielberg is not the director that Kubrick was. The differences? Spielberg films ALWAYS tug at your heartstrings EXACTLY where you'd expect them to. Spielberg films are visual, and straight forward.
BUT, Kubrick cancelled a holocaust project because Spielberg wanted to do Schindler's List (which was a good, if not formulaic movie). AI has had more rumors flying around it than any other film I can think of. It WILL end up a good movie, because the premise is pretty good (in my opinion, you can't recycle Blade Runner too many times
Kubrick? His films are much more subtle. His films are deep and symbolic. His movies make you THINK, which is what I believe seperates art from entertainment. The Shining is creepy. Eyes Wide Shut stayed with me for WEEKS after seeing it. Clockwork Orange was terrifying (though the book was more so; Alex grows up, showing the atrocities of the rest of the book as nothing more than normal teen angst and the progressing to a "normal" person).
So will it be good? Yes. I have high hopes for this film. But as far as exciting geeky films, I'll wait for Lord of the Rings. Hell, even the Matrix sequels will be deeper than AI now.
At least Lucas isn't doing it.
They could have named it Dotedu. Or Dotnet. Actually, I kinda like dotnet. Or Dotcouk. It's a good thing that TLD isn't enforced, or it would have to be named Dotcomus (which brings up the topic of 70's obscure pagan folk music, but that's another story ;-) Or they could have named it gnarphlager.
I should stop. I'm having way too much fun with this.
That'll do, pig, that'll do
depends on your tradition, really. You can trace a swastika, fylfot, crooked cross, whatever back as far as you want to go. It's shown up in cultures as diverse as egyptian and japanese, each taking on a different meaning. Symbols are all relative anyway. I have alot of interest in brittish paganisim (as opposed to the lame-ass wiccans of today), so that's where my interest in swastikas stems from. Interesting to note that around 500ad the swastika was used as the cross of christ by the christian church, in yet another attempt to gain followers by assimilating local pagan traditions and symbols. Really fascinating stuff, and I wholely believe that the symbol will come back "in vogue" in a couple hundred years, after the Nazi distaste fades a little.
;-)
glad to see I managed to troll SOMEONE
. . . that might BE the intent. That's the fundamental difference between surrealism and nonsense. The above CAN be interpreted, and there is meaning. But it is perceived consciously as nonsense, so it's glazed over. But subconsciously you looked for meaning, and perhaps subconsciously you got it, but were struggling pulling from the back to the front. Either way you both a) focused on it and b) let it influence you at least on some level. And thus art and surrealisim become in some ways MORE effective communication, because the ego doesn't step in during the interpretation.
;-)
which was the point I was making. And I get offtopic and funny. Typical
who is Ray and why would we want to selectively trace him?
liver tonuges under goldfish. your egg underneath a telephone wax not unto signal fires dismissal night. BSD concave north button mother pirate other futon! Boxes! Boxes BOXES! Their your our their our our my your. Silver finger people dried ruler. Number meaning star whirl block buddy. Money storage gallon expert library plenty tax the to to two the the two the to.
Once plaid insurance nurse junk early mate hand revised memory stop me practical this a this. Real garden Christ future decomposed designate digits. Private medicine aardvark unless devices and services. Mistaken Lumpar impending eligibility. Hungry vagabonds! You own ham warlords glass household juices.
Most people fail to realize, but Dune is very important in geek culture for the self-referential metaphors. All geeks realize the importance of self-reference. Take, for example, this post on Slashdot discussing metaphors in Dune. It CLEARLY references itself, and thus gives a good example of self-reference. It also uses the expression "self-reference" more times than any valid post should. But I digress.
I'm sure you understand the relationship to the freemen and free software. Though it's been quite a while since I've read the book, I seem to recall "freemen" being spelled with only two "e"s. I could be wrong though, so I choose to continue spelling it logically. If I'm going to look stupid, which I often do (I point your attention to my recent post on slashdot regarding Geek Metaphors in Dune), then at least I'm going to admit it, and look stupid in my own special way. But I digress.
The freemen live in caves in the desert in the Dune books. They are unwashed and seen as lunatics by the more civilized Houses. This is clearly a metaphor for free software programmers. The desert, however, is to be taken literally. Most free software programmers live in caves in the desert. I mean, it only stands to reason. Believe it or not, those caves are mighty chilly, and saves trouble of cooling the server rooms. Though nothing is quite like the pleasure of an ice cold server room. Set aside getting out of summer heat, it lets you wear your all too geeky Mr.Rodgers-esque sweater all year round. I don't know about you, but I certainly like sweaters. But I digress.
And then there are the sandworms. Giant beasts that burrows through the soil. If ever there has been an obvious metaphor for worm-type viruses, this is it. And worm viruses would not exist without people to program them. Sure, that sort of thing might be a good way to understand how protocols and programming works, but any good hacker grows out of that stuff after high school. Angst-fueled education seems to be very prevailent. But the important thing is to not regret it. Sure, I'm not PROUD of alot of the things I've done in the past, and I'd never do it again, but I DID do it. There's nothing that can be accomplished by feeling sorry about everything I've ever done. Take for example the time that I found the dying man behind the 7-11. Yeah, I could have, and likely should have called an ambulance. But I hadn't eaten in a few days, and truth be told I was dead broke. If I had spent more time programming useful software, instead of releasing everything "free", then maybe I could have bought a taco or two. But no one was around, and I made sure not to leave any fingerprints. And it gave me a chance to use that new meatloaf pan my mother bought me for my birthday. Oh, mother, what you don't know . . .
But I digress. Cheese is pretty.
i'm very sure you don't know what "gnarphlager" means :-p
never said you didn't know who I was
Odd. I play a troll on slashdot ;-)
:-)
seriously though, I use this nick all over the place. Even used it for the name of my record label. And still no one knows what it means
. . . here in pittsburgh have been claiming credit for the attacks already. But then again, I suppose everyone and their script-kiddie brother is. Quite honestly I don't believe that we'll ever know who did it, but I'm sure we'll have someone to crucify for it. The government seems to be pretty good about that.
Hmmm. Since when has the FBI been a software vendor? Honestly, I don't recall too many products in the past (can anyone provide better info?). Which doesn't mean they couldn't or haven't, but I like to check the track record, yanno?
Eh, don't worry about it. I got moderated to +5 Funny for a serious post once. I made the mistake of being critical of linux ;-)
;-)
Of course I AM a full-time troll, so . . . .
how much is that judge in the window,
the one with the waggley tail?
how much is that judge in the window?
I DO hope that judge is for sale . . .
</singing>
ah, shit. Too late. Already sold.
DAMNIT. Netscape caught me out with that Opera floozy again. Let alone Mozilla . . . that's like doinking your partner's sibling!!!! And who KNOWS what sort of disease I'll pick up with IE . . . . .
Why re-invent the wheel everytime. ;-)
why not? at least that way you know it's YOUR wheel, and if there are any problems you know who to blame. Of course, I'm over ambitious and twice as arrogant
That friend next door that loves yelling 'rm -rf /' really loud.
are you suggesting that's unusual behaviour?!?!?! Hmmm. I wonder if that's why I don't have any friends . . . .
Main Office Address:
Motion Picture Association of America (MPAA)
Motion Picture Association (MPA)
15503 Ventura Blvd.
Encino, California 91436
(818) 995-6600
you know what to do
....particularly since I was trolling..... ;-) But hey, you reacted. Points for me.
my uninformed guess would be that Mike Killed the Hubble.
Damn firewalls. I'd like to read this though; anyone mirror it?
. . . it likely IS thier linux. From what I understand, the first LinuxOne beta was a BARELY modified RedHat; where they didn't even finish changing all the names from "RedHat" to "LinuxOne". I personally haven't seen the beta, or the first release that came out ONE MONTH later, but I don't imagnie all that much changed in that short of time.
These guys are so many flavors of shady it hurts.
Personally, I'm not sure I really see the significance of this. Big blue likes linux. Okay, fine. They'll sell servers running linux. Neat. But what are they going to do to develop linux? Are they going to contribute to the community, or are they just going to make a quick buck on everyone else's work without having to worry about NT licencing fee. Don't get me wrong; it's great to see more linux servers and workstations in the world, and any exposure is good exposure, but if anyone has the means to help development, it's IBM.
Too many corporations are looking at linux as a finished product, rather than a work in progress. It's not.