QA is the problem. They refuse to do majorly expensive testing on earth to check all subsystems. They really need to fire a 'mars test' system into space and test it landing here. In general, the same system that will land on Mars will land on earth, though not the other way around.
Btw, this is exactly what America nasa and new space does. Prior to sending red dragon, they will make it land on earth first from helicopters, then aircrafts, finally a test space shot.
Actually, I think that you have missed things: the
Falcon 9 can launch ~13 tonnes to leo on a reusable, but 23 tonnes to leo if f9 is expendable. IOW, it is close to the DIVH, only a fraction of the costs.
And the FH will not do a xross-over, but will still get 54+ tonnes to leo.
The falcons are currently volume limited, so supposedly, SX WAS working on new fairing. I'm sure at this moment that those ppl are working on F9's situation which appears to be their helium tank.
everybody that has worked on mars missions.
I worked on MGS, and can tell you that to be successful with most missions, you have to have a much higher level of quality compared to normal.
Oddly, if ESA, Russia, CHina, etc wanted to really test this, they would send a duplicate around the moon and then land it on earth.
That would test just about every subsystems in similar ways.
It is supposed to launch next year with a crew.
I think that it will depend on if SpaceX REALLY has solved the helium tank problem.
However, it should be noted that the launch abort worked perfectly and had the V2 been on the last launcher, it would have survived.
So what happens when somebody enters illegally? It says they have the right to wonder freely. No where did it say that to wonder freely , you had to be legally there.
F9 is man-rated according to NASA. Just because it has an issue at the moment, does not remove the man-rating from NASA. You know that.
However, you are correct that SLS is not man-rated yet. So, we have 2 that are.
you said that this was for the last 100 years. Yet, the fact is, that ALL OF THAT took place PRIOR to 100 years ago. For the last 100 years, CHina has been to itself, and the west has had very little to do with it, EXCEPT help them when Japan was raping and pillaging you.
So, lets try again. EXACTLY what warring has China had to do with the west? Keep in mind that prior to WWII, that Japan was not part of the west, and that Russia never has been.
that does NOT say of YOUR OWN NATION. It says of EACH STATE. IOW, whatever nations that you are in.
NOWHERE does it say that to cross into other nations, you must get PERMISSION.
All 3 our launchers, SLS, Atlas V, and F9, are man-rated.
Only 1 capsule, orion, is man-rated. However, dragon and cst-100 will be rated in 1 and 3 years, respectively.
Finally, add on Blue Origin and SNC's vehicle happening 4 years.
And Russia has only 1 man-rated launch system.
Oh please. We have 3 launchers in SLS, Atlas, and falcon. Yes SLS is not quite ready, but will be next year. Falcon has an issue with the helium tank which is being sorted out. Then have 3 capsules, of Orien, cst100, and dragon. Orien and cst100 hold 6 ppl while dragon can hold 7. Orien is ready. Dragon will be ready by end of 2017, while cst100 will be ready by mid 2019, if not early 2019.
And none of this includes, SNC or BO , both if which should have orbital vehicles by 2020.
Eh? It was O that pushed ccxdev while the GD GOP worked to kill it off and push more money to their districts. As it is, spacex will likely have V2 ready next year.
China is not, and never has been, a communist nation. It is a totalitarian nation with a command economy, that has introduced capitalism into fields that deal with exported goods. The rest remains under control of the gov.
Well, like Mars, plenty of easy solutions to those issues. In general, be at North and South Pole. Put base in the ground where temp is fairly level.
Solar will work for most, but will still need nuke power.
Mars also has issues, but easily solved.
Please stop your own BS.
First, the west will have ppl on the moon by 2022, if not sooner. Bigelow is desperate to go there due to needing lots of customers.
Secondly, when BFR hits the market around 2021-2022, they need to fly at least monthly. What will they launch? Well there is not enough large sats needed (esp if 300 tonnes ). So spacex will support the lunar base. Afterall they will be the cheapest launch system going, likely by a factor of 10 fold.
Third, nasa will no doubt be first customer at that base. However, it is nothing major to them since private space will do it. As such, nasa should continue to be devoted to helping private space make space stations, landers, in-situ processing, nuke engines, etc. Esp since this equipment can be used on both moon and Mars with slight changes.
Article 13 jumps right up. Basically, it guarantees open borders and then says that illegal aliens can not be prosecuted and booted out. So what nations have open borders to every one?
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Huh? Are you sure that nasa would not share our landing system with ESA? That just sounds off.
QA is the problem. They refuse to do majorly expensive testing on earth to check all subsystems. They really need to fire a 'mars test' system into space and test it landing here. In general, the same system that will land on Mars will land on earth, though not the other way around. Btw, this is exactly what America nasa and new space does. Prior to sending red dragon, they will make it land on earth first from helicopters, then aircrafts, finally a test space shot.
Actually, I think that you have missed things: the Falcon 9 can launch ~13 tonnes to leo on a reusable, but 23 tonnes to leo if f9 is expendable. IOW, it is close to the DIVH, only a fraction of the costs. And the FH will not do a xross-over, but will still get 54+ tonnes to leo. The falcons are currently volume limited, so supposedly, SX WAS working on new fairing. I'm sure at this moment that those ppl are working on F9's situation which appears to be their helium tank.
No need. We have our systems and QA down. However, when designing new approaches, nasa has done loads of earth testing, including dropping from space.
Yes. I am well aware of it. But, am also aware that it would test the systems better that what they have done so far.
everybody that has worked on mars missions.
I worked on MGS, and can tell you that to be successful with most missions, you have to have a much higher level of quality compared to normal.
Oddly, if ESA, Russia, CHina, etc wanted to really test this, they would send a duplicate around the moon and then land it on earth.
That would test just about every subsystems in similar ways.
atlas 5 will not launch a single person until they have a vehicle to take up. And CST-100 will not be ready until end of 2018, or possibly into 2019.
It is supposed to launch next year with a crew.
I think that it will depend on if SpaceX REALLY has solved the helium tank problem.
However, it should be noted that the launch abort worked perfectly and had the V2 been on the last launcher, it would have survived.
So what happens when somebody enters illegally? It says they have the right to wonder freely. No where did it say that to wonder freely , you had to be legally there.
F9 is man-rated according to NASA. Just because it has an issue at the moment, does not remove the man-rating from NASA. You know that.
However, you are correct that SLS is not man-rated yet. So, we have 2 that are.
you said that this was for the last 100 years. Yet, the fact is, that ALL OF THAT took place PRIOR to 100 years ago. For the last 100 years, CHina has been to itself, and the west has had very little to do with it, EXCEPT help them when Japan was raping and pillaging you.
So, lets try again. EXACTLY what warring has China had to do with the west? Keep in mind that prior to WWII, that Japan was not part of the west, and that Russia never has been.
that does NOT say of YOUR OWN NATION. It says of EACH STATE. IOW, whatever nations that you are in.
NOWHERE does it say that to cross into other nations, you must get PERMISSION.
Hell, you can not even get length of travel time down. It is WT like you that has fucked up our nation.
No, just a guy that worked on MGS, Boeing, ULA, and Jeppesen.
And what kind of a fucking idiot are you?
All 3 our launchers, SLS, Atlas V, and F9, are man-rated.
Only 1 capsule, orion, is man-rated. However, dragon and cst-100 will be rated in 1 and 3 years, respectively.
Finally, add on Blue Origin and SNC's vehicle happening 4 years.
And Russia has only 1 man-rated launch system.
Oh please. We have 3 launchers in SLS, Atlas, and falcon. Yes SLS is not quite ready, but will be next year. Falcon has an issue with the helium tank which is being sorted out. Then have 3 capsules, of Orien, cst100, and dragon. Orien and cst100 hold 6 ppl while dragon can hold 7. Orien is ready. Dragon will be ready by end of 2017, while cst100 will be ready by mid 2019, if not early 2019. And none of this includes, SNC or BO , both if which should have orbital vehicles by 2020.
Eh? It was O that pushed ccxdev while the GD GOP worked to kill it off and push more money to their districts. As it is, spacex will likely have V2 ready next year.
Hillary backs nasa and nukes. We will see science expanded again esp once FH and dragon V2 fly.
China is not, and never has been, a communist nation. It is a totalitarian nation with a command economy, that has introduced capitalism into fields that deal with exported goods. The rest remains under control of the gov.
Well, like Mars, plenty of easy solutions to those issues. In general, be at North and South Pole. Put base in the ground where temp is fairly level. Solar will work for most, but will still need nuke power. Mars also has issues, but easily solved.
Mars can be done in 3-4 months with chemical engine and 1 month with nuke engine.
Please stop your own BS. First, the west will have ppl on the moon by 2022, if not sooner. Bigelow is desperate to go there due to needing lots of customers. Secondly, when BFR hits the market around 2021-2022, they need to fly at least monthly. What will they launch? Well there is not enough large sats needed (esp if 300 tonnes ). So spacex will support the lunar base. Afterall they will be the cheapest launch system going, likely by a factor of 10 fold. Third, nasa will no doubt be first customer at that base. However, it is nothing major to them since private space will do it. As such, nasa should continue to be devoted to helping private space make space stations, landers, in-situ processing, nuke engines, etc. Esp since this equipment can be used on both moon and Mars with slight changes.
In addition dragon 1 can go. Likewise, V2 could easily go in under 6 months or less if needed.
Article 13 jumps right up. Basically, it guarantees open borders and then says that illegal aliens can not be prosecuted and booted out. So what nations have open borders to every one?
LOL. How was CHina fighting the west?