Going to mars after going to the moon is much easier than going to the moon for first time.
The problem is that going to mars was too expensive because companies became too expensive. Now, spacex and Bigelow are making it cheap to go to both.
Wow. That just plain sux. I liked the idea of innovative cars, but running them through traditional makers is a losing proposition.
Hey do you know what is/has happened to a similar car maker from new Orleans area? I can not recall its name.
Uh no. The majority of rockets have not been lh2/lox. It is absolutely rp-1 or kerosine combined with lox. And second would be udmh combined with N2O4.
Even now, dragon 1 and dragon 2 are very capable of launching humans into space and bringing them back. What is missing is that NASA and faa would deny launch because full testing has not been completed.
Yeah, america keeps landing larger crafts on mars which is far more difficult than earth, venus, or the moon. As such when ppl claim that we have lost it, they obviously do not read.
But I differ with you about how robots are doing fine without us. They are very limited. In addition, the GOP continues to force NASA to be a jobs program, which means that economically, we could not go to the moon or mars.
musk and Bigelow are changing the economics of it. Both are making it so that not only will america be on a lunar base within 6 years, but we will be at a Martion base within 15 years.
Assuming that the american GOP can be stopped, america will have humans at a luner base by 2022 if not 2020.
Bigelow, with NASA help, are working hard to put us there.
What is needed is spacex's MCT, which is designed to put 100 tonnes on mars in one shot, for less than $.5B. Musk will be happy to do lunar trips as well, but the GOP keep trying to gut Bigelow and spacex.
The golf is NOT quick. It does 0-60 in somewhere around 5.7 up to 8.9, depending on the engine. That is slow. It is not a fiat, but it is also not a model S.
And as a previous rabbit owner, I liked the car fine, but good looking? Nope.
Roadster has gen 1 of the tesla battery. On the cars that have reached 120K, the worst one so far, was at 80%. The average is around 93% or so.
Tesla just announced new batteries for the roadster that will give them a range of 400 MPC. Not sure what the price will be yet. However, these are the same batteries that are in the Model S, and are expected to be over 98% when it hits 100K miles. The Model S is expecting that at around 150-250K miles, you will need to replace the batteries. If you do it in the next 5 years, you will pay around 15-20K. If you do it around 10 years, the batteries are expected to be around 2500 for a much better set of batteries.
Totally agree with you on the first part. In fact, one thing that you did not mention is that these plug-in hybrids, along with low MPC EVs, the owners will plug these in esp. in the daytime. IOW, they will drive to their job in the AM and then plug-in and charge all day.
Now, numerous studies have been done on the impact of electric cars on the electricity demand and grid. Basically, we have plenty of energy and generally, the grid is fine, EXCEPT for the NW. BUT, that was all predicated on less than 25% of the cars charging in the daytime. In addition, the studies noted that if more than 5-10% of the vehicles charge in the daytime, it will INCREASE the price of electricity for all of us due to increased daytime demand. Between your statement, along with these studies, that is why I oppose cars like the leaf and volt. BTW, the bolt is PERFECT. 200 MPC is right around the correct amount as it allows the cells to be rotated, so that the batteries last a long time (10-15 years), and will cover 99.9% of all American driving.
I differ with you about how long it will take us to move to electric. The only reasons why these car companies, including GM, are doing Electric, is due to Tesla. In 3 more years, when Tesla introduces gen 3, like the Model S, they will not be able to make enough of them to satisfy demand. The reason is that when it comes out, the entire west will be covered with free SuperChargers. OTOH, Fuel cells cars will be pushed by most of the major car makers, but it be over $5/gal equivalence to fill these cars. The operating costs, combined with the fact that the cars will be more expensive than even a EV car is, will make car buyers DEMAND EVs.
By 2020, car makers will have announced that more than 1/2 of their vehicles will be pure EVs. In addition, I suspect that they will take advantage of Tesla's SC, though they may choose to standardize on something else.
Give me a break. First, you accuse me of being liar, when in fact, I was 100% on point. The volt was supposed to be a pure series hybrid so that it could easily convert to an electric, or fuel cell based car, quickly and easily.
then the same MBAs that ran GM into the ground insisted on having this parallel so that their transmission group got in on out.
And as to taking a chill pill, I am not one running calling others liars while posting dissertations to attempt to back up their bs.
The volt remains a FUCKING hybrid. It is NOT an electric car. And just because it has the ability to do series+paralle+electric does not make it a series hybrid. The fact is, that the engine can and does drive the wheels when in parallel mode. That means that you have a much more complex system which means early failures.
Here in Colorado diesel is still at 3/ gal. Normally, it is around 4. With electricity at.05/kwh for nighttime charging. As such, your TDI is great deal more expensive to run than an electric car. And that does not include the fact that your maintenance is outrageous compared to electric.
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OTOH , Apollo was only 200 mph shy of earth escape speed.
F9, delta, and atlas are all capable of sending 7 or more ppl into space.
In addition, dragon 1 and 2 are fully capable of holding 7 humans today.
Going to mars after going to the moon is much easier than going to the moon for first time.
The problem is that going to mars was too expensive because companies became too expensive. Now, spacex and Bigelow are making it cheap to go to both.
BTW, I doubt that you will see any human piss in space.
Wow. That just plain sux. I liked the idea of innovative cars, but running them through traditional makers is a losing proposition. Hey do you know what is/has happened to a similar car maker from new Orleans area? I can not recall its name.
Uh no. The majority of rockets have not been lh2/lox. It is absolutely rp-1 or kerosine combined with lox. And second would be udmh combined with N2O4.
Even now, dragon 1 and dragon 2 are very capable of launching humans into space and bringing them back. What is missing is that NASA and faa would deny launch because full testing has not been completed.
Yeah, america keeps landing larger crafts on mars which is far more difficult than earth, venus, or the moon. As such when ppl claim that we have lost it, they obviously do not read.
But I differ with you about how robots are doing fine without us. They are very limited. In addition, the GOP continues to force NASA to be a jobs program, which means that economically, we could not go to the moon or mars.
musk and Bigelow are changing the economics of it. Both are making it so that not only will america be on a lunar base within 6 years, but we will be at a Martion base within 15 years.
Nope
Since snowden, US is quite restrained on spying. Instead, we are going to see a major increase in terrorist attacks.
The west will be on the moon by 2022 or sooner.
Assuming that the american GOP can be stopped, america will have humans at a luner base by 2022 if not 2020. Bigelow, with NASA help, are working hard to put us there. What is needed is spacex's MCT, which is designed to put 100 tonnes on mars in one shot, for less than $.5B. Musk will be happy to do lunar trips as well, but the GOP keep trying to gut Bigelow and spacex.
The golf is NOT quick. It does 0-60 in somewhere around 5.7 up to 8.9, depending on the engine. That is slow. It is not a fiat, but it is also not a model S.
And as a previous rabbit owner, I liked the car fine, but good looking? Nope.
I wondered why that went away.
THanx.
Roadster has gen 1 of the tesla battery. On the cars that have reached 120K, the worst one so far, was at 80%. The average is around 93% or so.
Tesla just announced new batteries for the roadster that will give them a range of 400 MPC. Not sure what the price will be yet. However, these are the same batteries that are in the Model S, and are expected to be over 98% when it hits 100K miles. The Model S is expecting that at around 150-250K miles, you will need to replace the batteries. If you do it in the next 5 years, you will pay around 15-20K. If you do it around 10 years, the batteries are expected to be around 2500 for a much better set of batteries.
saturns had issues, but, if you kept the core maintenance done, they were pretty damn good cars.
Totally agree with you on the first part. In fact, one thing that you did not mention is that these plug-in hybrids, along with low MPC EVs, the owners will plug these in esp. in the daytime. IOW, they will drive to their job in the AM and then plug-in and charge all day.
Now, numerous studies have been done on the impact of electric cars on the electricity demand and grid. Basically, we have plenty of energy and generally, the grid is fine, EXCEPT for the NW. BUT, that was all predicated on less than 25% of the cars charging in the daytime. In addition, the studies noted that if more than 5-10% of the vehicles charge in the daytime, it will INCREASE the price of electricity for all of us due to increased daytime demand. Between your statement, along with these studies, that is why I oppose cars like the leaf and volt. BTW, the bolt is PERFECT. 200 MPC is right around the correct amount as it allows the cells to be rotated, so that the batteries last a long time (10-15 years), and will cover 99.9% of all American driving.
I differ with you about how long it will take us to move to electric. The only reasons why these car companies, including GM, are doing Electric, is due to Tesla. In 3 more years, when Tesla introduces gen 3, like the Model S, they will not be able to make enough of them to satisfy demand. The reason is that when it comes out, the entire west will be covered with free SuperChargers. OTOH, Fuel cells cars will be pushed by most of the major car makers, but it be over $5/gal equivalence to fill these cars. The operating costs, combined with the fact that the cars will be more expensive than even a EV car is, will make car buyers DEMAND EVs.
By 2020, car makers will have announced that more than 1/2 of their vehicles will be pure EVs. In addition, I suspect that they will take advantage of Tesla's SC, though they may choose to standardize on something else.
Cows, not horses. Very different animals, with different eating habits.
If you set the tail on fire that takes care of the methane right there. Also makes the Colt run faster.
Does that not change the name from Colt to Pinto?
Give me a break. First, you accuse me of being liar, when in fact, I was 100% on point. The volt was supposed to be a pure series hybrid so that it could easily convert to an electric, or fuel cell based car, quickly and easily.
then the same MBAs that ran GM into the ground insisted on having this parallel so that their transmission group got in on out.
And as to taking a chill pill, I am not one running calling others liars while posting dissertations to attempt to back up their bs.
The volt remains a FUCKING hybrid. It is NOT an electric car. And just because it has the ability to do series+paralle+electric does not make it a series hybrid. The fact is, that the engine can and does drive the wheels when in parallel mode. That means that you have a much more complex system which means early failures.
Musk recently commented that gen 3 will be like no car before. It is possible that consumers will find it be as ugly.
That is as ugly as a golf. And I will bet that it runs as slow.
Here in Colorado diesel is still at 3/ gal. Normally, it is around 4. With electricity at .05/kwh for nighttime charging. As such, your TDI is great deal more expensive to run than an electric car. And that does not include the fact that your maintenance is outrageous compared to electric.
Oddly, the volt is a gas car in that it is a parallel hybrid. The bolt is a true electric car.