I think actually, if someone sends a letter addressed to me I acquire ownership of whatever part of the content is addressed to me.
I did a little quick scanning on the net though and couldn't find support for this, -- but for some reason when I read this topic that is the first thought that popped up
if you think about this for a minute you see what I'm talking about is an essential characteristic of any message that is addressed personally to you
for example: I order a book from Amazon. The order arrives and I have the book and the invoice. I can't misuse the copyright on the book but the invoice -- is mine.
I think I read yesterday that 95% of computers are running ms/windows
maybe so, i ain't got no way to know. but it is certainly true that ms/windows controls enough of the market so that any start-up will have to have a high degree of inter-operability to be viable
I think though that if you can read Word and Excel documents the 90/10 rule will kick in and your ready to run
the Solaris system has some pretty good looking stuff
one of the main hack complaints in 2007 was when ms sent updates onto XP's that had updates turned off
credibility to a serious hit that day
not that it mattered at all, as I noted hackers made a feast of ms in 2007 with the result being that 'computer security' is now on an even par with 'honest politician'
security has to be 100% because as soon as there is any breach at all you can no longer trust your authentication tools
it's the concept actually, that it is ok to send out programming updates without a foolprof means of authentication
this concept has resulted in 2007 being a banner year for hackers and cyber crime. they only result that can be drawn from all of this hacking is that ms/windows is not suitable for commercial business because of its inherent vulnerabilities.
time to move on, and I've got my eye on that Solaris system. that is a good looking system and if that has good tight security, well hopefully ms comprehensive will cover glass breakage
Hackers have been of some benefit, that being they have demonstrated to us, in spades, that "security" on our existing network is no better than a bad joke.
If the internet is to be a component of the commercial business system the security problem has to be corrected.
the troubles that we have on the network today are largely the result of UN-AUTHORIZED programming. Considering this, the first thing that needs to happen is we have to change our thinking about how we update programming
un-authorized programming cannot be allowed, anywhere or anytime. we will need a commercial business type organization such as IBM to make the change,-- the stuff that comes out of academia just don't cut it.
I'm talking RACF for Windows. We need to look at not only who is trying to update what, but also what tools are they using, and just exactly where did they get those tools?
this is necessary to insure that only properly authorized changes are made to any programming
when I worked in Payroll/Personnel in Richmond back in 1980 we knew this: if you spend 25% of your time writing code you have to be classified as a programmer and as a programmer you have to be paid hourly and overtime rules apply.
the whole of the IT industry could never have mde it out of the 1960s and through to 1990 if that rule had been applied: nobody could have afforded it
but is is time for the industry to mature
we need to slow the pace of development and focus on reliability, security, and responsibility
it just isn't necessary to write code at Mach 8 anymore. time for IT to grow up and take its place with all the other regular professions. we know how to do the work now, we don't need to experiment to learn. that is all behind us. except for 1 detail and that is managers still need to learn to manage a profession when both the development and supports aspects of IT are present at the same time.
Being a scofflaw puts you in pretty good company.
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Being a scofflaw puts you in pretty good company.
It might
But that is rather like claiming "all change is progress"
Do you have a personal guide to doing the right thing? If you don't you will wander through these discussions and only conclude that the Biggest Bear Wins the Fight
If force is all you are able to understand please take your club and go back to your cave
as i have noted elsewhere, William Penn instructed us: "Those who will not be governed by [conscience] will be ruled by [judges]" ( secular version )
the software business is a mess. as a result you are going to get an intervention. exactly what that will be remains to be seen
but hackers messing with the software affecting various aspects of the commercial system will not be tolerated
the difference is that the net and the computers aren't toys anymore: they are a crucial part of our infrastructure. this will result in a change in the way things are handled
it's past time for the software business
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it's past time, way past time, for us to recognize that software is a crucial component of our infrastructure. and like concrete, steel, electrical work, plumbing etc etc we have to have a means to make sure the job is done right
part of "done right" is that the software does what the specifications say it will do
part of "done right" is that the software does not fail: abend, loop, incorrout, wait state, slow -- what have you
no software maker will be able to stand behind their product unless they have assurance that neither their product or the os on which it is run has been compromised by rats, trojans, spyware, adware, worms, bank robbers,geeks, hackers, goons, snake oil, virus codes etc etc etc
enough already
it is time to slow this industry down and get things right. for a change
now I know what I'm saying here ain't real popular on this board. about as popular as dad showing up at a teenager festival
allright geeks, fall in and get to the position of attention
you should be able to tell the difference between copyright material and shared research data
quit all this quibbling already
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see: someone nailed ya with a -1 for dis-agreeing with the establishment
in this geek cult doing the right thing has been replaced with "because I can"
well, guess what kids: as William Penn noted: "Those who will not be governed by [conscience] will be ruled by [judges] " ( secular version )
Hell's a commin' and bringin' Big Brother with
you guys have created a real mess with all this pirating, phishing, pharming, spammming, DNS attacking, bot-nets, ad ware, spyware, trojans, RATS, bank robberies, power house shut downs etc. etc
most of it with un-authorized programming
if ever there was a call for a warrant you guys have created it
now it appears the government may be looking into the entire mess and there are some folks screaming about privacy violations
guess what kids: the supervision is warranted by the bad behavior and mis-use of the net. a done it to yourselves
the rest of us have a right to have computer running without virus codes so we can communicate and conduct business without ditzy-bopping hackers trying to get in our face or rob us
Anything that is this popular, by nature, will attract viruses.
Yep. and so anyone who is designing electronics with the capability of receiving programming updates has got to consider how those updates are going to be authenticated. the method for this has already been developed and proven: all that is needed is an authorized PGP signature on all programming.
this stuff is not a game. pcs, the internet, cellphones -- these are business equipment for corporations, employees, and individuals
and all these people, I shall call them customers, -- have a right to clean equipment that functions in accordance with the manufacturer's specifications and has not been illegally modified with un-authorized programming
that un-authorized programs can be "injected" into these divices is a disgrace to the manufacturers, -- which are technical organizations which should know better.
I hate the thought of government intervention into any aspect of life but unfortunately that has been necessary in a number of areas. and it is looking more and more like that is the only way we are going to be necessary of the net.
compatibility over time and between systems is important to us customers but is hated by manufacturers
as a result it is important for document formats to be standardized by ISO or ANSI
requests for change must be made public and slowed up so that everyone has a chance to implement -- so that backward compatibility can be assured
certain document types need particular care:
PDF
HTML
rtf
txt
Comma Delimited
address book
there are likely a few more
these formats are so important to our data that support of these formats cannot be trusted to software companies. the specifications for these documents needs to become open, international standards so that
documents can be exchanged between disparate systems
these are placed to insure that your car is totaled in the event of a minor accident
this is so tha the insurance company can part our your car and give you a screw-job settlement and make money on car accidents
the safety argument is a pretext for this scam: a good seat belt is all that is needed
when the demolition charges blew in my wife's Saturn it turned a $2000 collission into a totla wreck. in addition the charge broke the bones controlling the thumb in her right hand resulting in a monster medical bill and 8 weeks in a cast
the protection of intellectual property ( copyright, patent ) has been known as "the lamp by the golden door"
it is creativity placed in service that furthers the improvement of the human condition. placing new works inservice required venture capital and venture capital is available when there is a reasonable expectation of a good return. copyrights and patents are used to the returns on such ventures reward the rightful parties. without such assurance there is no point in risking capital to bring forth the development of creative works.
this is the lesson of experience
and as Dr. Franklin noted "experience is the only true test of any proposition"
only un-educated fools would see any reason for any discussion regarding the usefulness of patents and copyrights.
Slashdot Mirror
the DMCA requires the ISP to co-operate in removing copyright material upon receipt of formal notice and request
if Seeqpod has been given the required notice they will have to comply, otherwise they are in violation of DMCA and they don't want to be there.
I think actually, if someone sends a letter addressed to me I acquire ownership of whatever part of the content is addressed to me.
I did a little quick scanning on the net though and couldn't find support for this, -- but for some reason when I read this topic that is the first thought that popped up
if you think about this for a minute you see what I'm talking about is an essential characteristic of any message that is addressed personally to you
for example: I order a book from Amazon. The order arrives and I have the book and the invoice. I can't misuse the copyright on the book but the invoice -- is mine.
I think I read yesterday that 95% of computers are running ms/windows
maybe so, i ain't got no way to know. but it is certainly true that ms/windows controls enough of the market so that any start-up will have to have a high degree of inter-operability to be viable
I think though that if you can read Word and Excel documents the 90/10 rule will kick in and your ready to run
the Solaris system has some pretty good looking stuff
one of the main hack complaints in 2007 was when ms sent updates onto XP's that had updates turned off
credibility to a serious hit that day
not that it mattered at all, as I noted hackers made a feast of ms in 2007 with the result being that 'computer security' is now on an even par with 'honest politician'
security has to be 100% because as soon as there is any breach at all you can no longer trust your authentication tools
it's the concept actually, that it is ok to send out programming updates without a foolprof means of authentication
this concept has resulted in 2007 being a banner year for hackers and cyber crime. they only result that can be drawn from all of this hacking is that ms/windows is not suitable for commercial business because of its inherent vulnerabilities.
time to move on, and I've got my eye on that Solaris system. that is a good looking system and if that has good tight security, well hopefully ms comprehensive will cover glass breakage
Hackers have been of some benefit, that being they have demonstrated to us, in spades, that "security" on our existing network is no better than a bad joke.
If the internet is to be a component of the commercial business system the security problem has to be corrected.
the troubles that we have on the network today are largely the result of UN-AUTHORIZED programming. Considering this, the first thing that needs to happen is we have to change our thinking about how we update programming
un-authorized programming cannot be allowed, anywhere or anytime. we will need a commercial business type organization such as IBM to make the change,-- the stuff that comes out of academia just don't cut it.
I'm talking RACF for Windows. We need to look at not only who is trying to update what, but also what tools are they using, and just exactly where did they get those tools?
this is necessary to insure that only properly authorized changes are made to any programming
NO SIGNATURE? NO EXECUTE.
tee hee ho ho ha ha ROF,LMFAO
when I worked in Payroll/Personnel in Richmond back in 1980 we knew this: if you spend 25% of your time writing code you have to be classified as a programmer and as a programmer you have to be paid hourly and overtime rules apply.
the whole of the IT industry could never have mde it out of the 1960s and through to 1990 if that rule had been applied: nobody could have afforded it
but is is time for the industry to mature
we need to slow the pace of development and focus on reliability, security, and responsibility
it just isn't necessary to write code at Mach 8 anymore. time for IT to grow up and take its place with all the other regular professions. we know how to do the work now, we don't need to experiment to learn. that is all behind us. except for 1 detail and that is managers still need to learn to manage a profession when both the development and supports aspects of IT are present at the same time.
It might
But that is rather like claiming "all change is progress"
Do you have a personal guide to doing the right thing? If you don't you will wander through these discussions and only conclude that the Biggest Bear Wins the Fight
If force is all you are able to understand please take your club and go back to your cave
as i have noted elsewhere, William Penn instructed us: "Those who will not be governed by [conscience] will be ruled by [judges]"
( secular version )
the software business is a mess. as a result you are going to get an intervention. exactly what that will be remains to be seen
but hackers messing with the software affecting various aspects of the commercial system will not be tolerated
the difference is that the net and the computers aren't toys anymore: they are a crucial part of our infrastructure. this will result in a change in the way things are handled
it's past time, way past time, for us to recognize that software is a crucial component of our infrastructure. and like concrete, steel, electrical work, plumbing etc etc we have to have a means to make sure the job is done right
part of "done right" is that the software does what the specifications say it will do
part of "done right" is that the software does not fail: abend, loop, incorrout, wait state, slow -- what have you
no software maker will be able to stand behind their product unless they have assurance that neither their product or the os on which it is run has been compromised by rats, trojans, spyware, adware, worms, bank robbers,geeks, hackers, goons, snake oil, virus codes etc etc etc
enough already
it is time to slow this industry down and get things right. for a change
now I know what I'm saying here ain't real popular on this board. about as popular as dad showing up at a teenager festival
allright geeks, fall in and get to the position of attention
could be
alternatively we might re-examine content and use
Cable systems already have "pay per view" channels and perhaps some of these should be used for streaming music and videos you guys want to access
that might get the data streams for these materials out of the regular internet data channel
too, much of the video and music is copyright material and to access copyright material will require a proper sales agreement.
you should be able to tell the difference between copyright material and shared research data
quit all this quibbling already
see: someone nailed ya with a -1 for dis-agreeing with the establishment
in this geek cult doing the right thing has been replaced with "because I can"
well, guess what kids: as William Penn noted: "Those who will not be governed by [conscience] will be ruled by [judges] "
( secular version )
Hell's a commin' and bringin' Big Brother with
you guys have created a real mess with all this pirating, phishing, pharming, spammming, DNS attacking, bot-nets, ad ware, spyware, trojans, RATS, bank robberies, power house shut downs etc. etc
most of it with un-authorized programming
if ever there was a call for a warrant you guys have created it
in spades
enjoy
you people are just a band of scoff-laws
ya have to get off the government net to get away from government snooping
this means ya gonna have to resort to wireless p2p networks
tee hee -- this is a very interesting concept
the old linear amp. moves from the truck-stop to the geek-shop
we have a lot of abuse going on which includes but is not limited to
now it appears the government may be looking into the entire mess and there are some folks screaming about privacy violations
guess what kids: the supervision is warranted by the bad behavior and mis-use of the net. a done it to yourselves
the rest of us have a right to have computer running without virus codes so we can communicate and conduct business without ditzy-bopping hackers trying to get in our face or rob us
ya ain't suppose to rip off other people stuff, ok?
Yep. and so anyone who is designing electronics with the capability of receiving programming updates has got to consider how those updates are going to be authenticated. the method for this has already been developed and proven: all that is needed is an authorized PGP signature on all programming.
this stuff is not a game. pcs, the internet, cellphones -- these are business equipment for corporations, employees, and individuals
and all these people, I shall call them customers, -- have a right to clean equipment that functions in accordance with the manufacturer's specifications and has not been illegally modified with un-authorized programming
that un-authorized programs can be "injected" into these divices is a disgrace to the manufacturers, -- which are technical organizations which should know better.
I hate the thought of government intervention into any aspect of life but unfortunately that has been necessary in a number of areas. and it is looking more and more like that is the only way we are going to be necessary of the net.
as a result it is important for document formats to be standardized by ISO or ANSI
requests for change must be made public and slowed up so that everyone has a chance to implement -- so that backward compatibility can be assured
certain document types need particular care:
there are likely a few more
these formats are so important to our data that support of these formats cannot be trusted to software companies. the specifications for these documents needs to become open, international standards so that
Ha!
yer cars are loaded with demolition charges
these are placed to insure that your car is totaled in the event of a minor accident
this is so tha the insurance company can part our your car and give you a screw-job settlement and make money on car accidents
the safety argument is a pretext for this scam: a good seat belt is all that is needed
when the demolition charges blew in my wife's Saturn it turned a $2000 collission into a totla wreck. in addition the charge broke the bones controlling the thumb in her right hand resulting in a monster medical bill and 8 weeks in a cast
copyright laws are going to be enforced and you are not going to destroy the copyright system
my best suggestion to everyone using p2p to pirate music: quit, and be quick about it. get rid of that p2p software before you get into real trouble
... and those who steal will be caught and punished
the protection of intellectual property ( copyright, patent ) has been known as "the lamp by the golden door"
it is creativity placed in service that furthers the improvement of the human condition. placing new works inservice required venture capital and venture capital is available when there is a reasonable expectation of a good return. copyrights and patents are used to the returns on such ventures reward the rightful parties. without such assurance there is no point in risking capital to bring forth the development of creative works.
this is the lesson of experience
and as Dr. Franklin noted "experience is the only true test of any proposition"
only un-educated fools would see any reason for any discussion regarding the usefulness of patents and copyrights.
this is the bad with the good
on the one hand i don't like the government making warrantless searches anymore than anyone else
on the otherhand searching the internet is probably warranted, generally:if i hadda vote today I'd prefer government supervision to the mess these hackers have created for us
William Penn noted for us to the effect that
Those who will not be governed by [conscience] will be ruled by TyrantsEnjoy.
"working from home" my @$$