Are you trolling or what? Of course the USPO was involved in the Unabomber case, you don't really think sending bombs is legal do you? And what if we do *lose* the ability to get the scanners? We already have them. It's too late for them now.
Well I guess it depends on whether or not users are required to log in to computers with their university accounts (in which case it should be trivial to trace behavior). If not, unless you have a really observant lab assistant working the lab, how could anyone be traced?
Isn't half a percent of 15 million 75,000? Even if your reasoning is correct that's only $1.5 million per month, not $15 million, and in the same manner only $18 million a year, not $180. I would seriously doubt that even that many people would sign up for AOL based on AIM ads, because these are people who already have *real* ISPs and use AIM so they can talk to their friends on AOL. Why would they downgrade to AOL?
What are you talking about? The only 'advertisements' in AIM are those annoying "5,000,000 free hours! Sign up for AOL NOW!!!!!" banners. Hardly a major revenue stream.
I'm not sure whether or not there was a checkbox at all in this case, but I doubt that it was an opt-in box. If anything, there may have been an opt-out box, or a box that you need to uncheck to opt out. Either way I personally feel that there should have been one final confirmation email (which is what the double opt-in idea is all about) just to make sure. If this company truly believes that everyone on the list actually wants to be on it, then it shouldn't have any fears about sending a friendly confirmation just to make sure.
This is really nothing new however, and has nothing to do with the RBL. ISPs have always been able to trace everything you do, although I think the good ones will erase their logs frequently to avoid hassles. If it ever did get to the level you suggest (where they block whatever they feel like) I think there would probably still be enough free e-mail services around that it wouldn't be that big a deal. Your IP can always be traced; I doubt that will change soon.
Yes, I am that kind of person. If you don't like your job, you should quit, and find a better one. I don't use Windows, because I don't like it. If school isn't your thing, well, then maybe you shouldn't go. There's no use whining about a problem when you should be doing something to remedy it instead. I guess there are some people who actually want to receive spam, but you have to keep in mind that it's not just the users who are affected by it. Being on the RBL can cure many headaches for sysadmins simply because they don't have to deal with all the extra crap going through their servers. If you really must have your spam, you can sign up for a Hotmail account. Don't tell me infinite free email services don't exist.
Cause the AC who posted that was posting at zero, as all ACs do. I wanted the comment to be seen, because obviously certain moderators probably aren't browsing at -1 (or even 0).
Well, lots of sites (in fact, all the mailing lists I'm on) require double-opt in. I mean, it just makes sense. Without it, anyone could sign you up for any mailing list they felt like, and you'd start getting a ton of mail you didn't ask for. In this particular case, people were automatically signed up for these mailings just because they signed up for Hotmail. That's a pretty lousy policy - they should've sent out a confirmation mail to make sure that the users actually wanted to be on the list.
We hear this argument all the time. If you don't want your ISP to use the RBL, use a different ISP. No one's forcing you to stick with the one you have.
Actually, yes, that is exactly what I believe. I see it every day. 'm not saying that _all_ young girls have been brainwashed in this way, but if the record companies and MTV had their way, they all would be. I think that to some extent, yes, this does apply to books, because it's difficult for the little guy to get noticed, but we're talking about the record industry here. However, I never once said that I think the copyright system should be scrapped! I totally agree that people using Napster to download copyrighted works are at least legally, if not ethically, wrong. But something needs to change, because the current system is just not working (in my opinion, I admit).
You have missed the point entirely. The "Britney Spears" argument actually does make sense. I think the original poster said that the current system does not promote creativity, because it's not about that anymore, it's about marketing.
Who decides what is "crap" and what is "creative?"... Individual consumers do.
Hardly! Britney Spears is a perfect example of this - the only reason most consumers (read: teenage girls) "want" or "like" Britney Spears music is because they have been brainwashed by MTV. I'm totally serious on this - when MTV realized it wasn't cool anymore, it decided that it would dictate what was considered cool, and therefore, be cool in itself. And it has succeeded alarmingly well, at least for its intended audience. Have you ever watched Total Request Live? It's basically an hour (?) long commercial for whatever artist they want to sell today. Top 40 / Pop radio stations are the same way - they play only what people are supposed to like. Even so called "mix" stations fall into this category. If there was no MTV, no pop radio, none of this marketing crap, no one would ever listen to Britney Spears willingly.
Fine, so I should've said "GNU/free" - I thought it was obvious what I meant, considering I was talking about everything from RMS's point of view, including his definition of the word "free." Of course, that depends on what the meaning of "is" is.
He does it because he believes he is right. He is not delusional; KDE's license was invalid, because they misused GPL'ed code. He actually had a good point that GNOME had to be started to compete with KDE - the whole point (in his ideology, at least) of GNU/Linux was to create a completely free operating system. Had KDE (which was technically NOT free because of the licensing issues) become a standard, GNU/Linux would not be a free operating system any longer. So GNOME was created to fill the need. As for most people not using just GPL software, sure, that's probably true. What he's saying has nothing to do with that! The problem is that KDE violated the license. Whether or not RMS came on too strong, he is legally and ethically correct. GET OVER IT.
Yeah, my local cable access provider has pretty much the same attitude, so we just hid the Linux box, let them install it on the laptop (which needed access too anyways) and then set up IP masquerading. Unfortunately they must've done portscans of everyone on their systems recently because I had to shut down my webserver after receiving a threatening letter. It had virtually no traffic though (the URL was never published anywhere) and they didn't even notice my mail and FTP services that were (and still are) running too. Makes you wonder if anyone there actually knows what they're talking about. I have a feeling they don't.
Fdisk sucks (and it sucks even more for the newbie because it's not even explained that you may have to use it). Seriously, that program hasn't changed since the old DOS days except for added FAT32 support! And it still doesn't even recognize other OS's partitions or allow you to fully utilize all four partitions per disk. I guess even on a fundamental level M$ software itself actually "thinks" that it's the only game out there.
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Are you trolling or what? Of course the USPO was involved in the Unabomber case, you don't really think sending bombs is legal do you? And what if we do *lose* the ability to get the scanners? We already have them. It's too late for them now.
Well, they do, in fact, on every story. Look on the right side of the page under "Related Links."
Well I guess it depends on whether or not users are required to log in to computers with their university accounts (in which case it should be trivial to trace behavior). If not, unless you have a really observant lab assistant working the lab, how could anyone be traced?
You mean he isn't? Coulda fooled me ;-)
Isn't half a percent of 15 million 75,000? Even if your reasoning is correct that's only $1.5 million per month, not $15 million, and in the same manner only $18 million a year, not $180. I would seriously doubt that even that many people would sign up for AOL based on AIM ads, because these are people who already have *real* ISPs and use AIM so they can talk to their friends on AOL. Why would they downgrade to AOL?
What are you talking about? The only 'advertisements' in AIM are those annoying "5,000,000 free hours! Sign up for AOL NOW!!!!!" banners. Hardly a major revenue stream.
I'm not sure whether or not there was a checkbox at all in this case, but I doubt that it was an opt-in box. If anything, there may have been an opt-out box, or a box that you need to uncheck to opt out. Either way I personally feel that there should have been one final confirmation email (which is what the double opt-in idea is all about) just to make sure. If this company truly believes that everyone on the list actually wants to be on it, then it shouldn't have any fears about sending a friendly confirmation just to make sure.
This is really nothing new however, and has nothing to do with the RBL. ISPs have always been able to trace everything you do, although I think the good ones will erase their logs frequently to avoid hassles. If it ever did get to the level you suggest (where they block whatever they feel like) I think there would probably still be enough free e-mail services around that it wouldn't be that big a deal. Your IP can always be traced; I doubt that will change soon.
Just have it look for a line that reads "This is not spam." Works for me ;-)
Yes, I am that kind of person. If you don't like your job, you should quit, and find a better one. I don't use Windows, because I don't like it. If school isn't your thing, well, then maybe you shouldn't go. There's no use whining about a problem when you should be doing something to remedy it instead. I guess there are some people who actually want to receive spam, but you have to keep in mind that it's not just the users who are affected by it. Being on the RBL can cure many headaches for sysadmins simply because they don't have to deal with all the extra crap going through their servers. If you really must have your spam, you can sign up for a Hotmail account. Don't tell me infinite free email services don't exist.
Cause the AC who posted that was posting at zero, as all ACs do. I wanted the comment to be seen, because obviously certain moderators probably aren't browsing at -1 (or even 0).
Well, lots of sites (in fact, all the mailing lists I'm on) require double-opt in. I mean, it just makes sense. Without it, anyone could sign you up for any mailing list they felt like, and you'd start getting a ton of mail you didn't ask for. In this particular case, people were automatically signed up for these mailings just because they signed up for Hotmail. That's a pretty lousy policy - they should've sent out a confirmation mail to make sure that the users actually wanted to be on the list.
So pointing out the mistakes of moderators is considered trolling, while being a karma whore isn't? Someone needs to read the moderator guidelines.
We hear this argument all the time. If you don't want your ISP to use the RBL, use a different ISP. No one's forcing you to stick with the one you have.
(or after the dot, as is the case here, oops)
Of course there's no space before the dot! Anyone with half a brain could figure that out. Moderators, this isn't informative, this is trolling.
Well, yeah, that's what I'm saying. Harsh words, but it's a harsh reality.
Actually, yes, that is exactly what I believe. I see it every day. 'm not saying that _all_ young girls have been brainwashed in this way, but if the record companies and MTV had their way, they all would be. I think that to some extent, yes, this does apply to books, because it's difficult for the little guy to get noticed, but we're talking about the record industry here. However, I never once said that I think the copyright system should be scrapped! I totally agree that people using Napster to download copyrighted works are at least legally, if not ethically, wrong. But something needs to change, because the current system is just not working (in my opinion, I admit).
You have missed the point entirely. The "Britney Spears" argument actually does make sense. I think the original poster said that the current system does not promote creativity, because it's not about that anymore, it's about marketing.
Who decides what is "crap" and what is "creative?" ... Individual consumers do.
Hardly! Britney Spears is a perfect example of this - the only reason most consumers (read: teenage girls) "want" or "like" Britney Spears music is because they have been brainwashed by MTV. I'm totally serious on this - when MTV realized it wasn't cool anymore, it decided that it would dictate what was considered cool, and therefore, be cool in itself. And it has succeeded alarmingly well, at least for its intended audience. Have you ever watched Total Request Live? It's basically an hour (?) long commercial for whatever artist they want to sell today. Top 40 / Pop radio stations are the same way - they play only what people are supposed to like. Even so called "mix" stations fall into this category. If there was no MTV, no pop radio, none of this marketing crap, no one would ever listen to Britney Spears willingly.
Fine, so I should've said "GNU/free" - I thought it was obvious what I meant, considering I was talking about everything from RMS's point of view, including his definition of the word "free." Of course, that depends on what the meaning of "is" is.
He does it because he believes he is right. He is not delusional; KDE's license was invalid, because they misused GPL'ed code. He actually had a good point that GNOME had to be started to compete with KDE - the whole point (in his ideology, at least) of GNU/Linux was to create a completely free operating system. Had KDE (which was technically NOT free because of the licensing issues) become a standard, GNU/Linux would not be a free operating system any longer. So GNOME was created to fill the need. As for most people not using just GPL software, sure, that's probably true. What he's saying has nothing to do with that! The problem is that KDE violated the license. Whether or not RMS came on too strong, he is legally and ethically correct. GET OVER IT.
I think I speak for all of us when I say lighten up.
Yeah, my local cable access provider has pretty much the same attitude, so we just hid the Linux box, let them install it on the laptop (which needed access too anyways) and then set up IP masquerading. Unfortunately they must've done portscans of everyone on their systems recently because I had to shut down my webserver after receiving a threatening letter. It had virtually no traffic though (the URL was never published anywhere) and they didn't even notice my mail and FTP services that were (and still are) running too. Makes you wonder if anyone there actually knows what they're talking about. I have a feeling they don't.
I said it was easier to install, not easier to get hardware running with ;-)
You're right, getting everything to work the way you'd like in Linux is a bit tricky, but as you said, it's getting better.
Fdisk sucks (and it sucks even more for the newbie because it's not even explained that you may have to use it). Seriously, that program hasn't changed since the old DOS days except for added FAT32 support! And it still doesn't even recognize other OS's partitions or allow you to fully utilize all four partitions per disk. I guess even on a fundamental level M$ software itself actually "thinks" that it's the only game out there.