Humans are the bad part, right? Those environmental terrorists are going about it all wrong. They need to kill themselves to be an example for the rest us uncaring individuals...:P
WHAT crime? What are you charging her with? Being a bitch?
The ONLY thing they're charging her with is computer misuse, hacking via ignoring a TOS.
I don't disagree that she shouldn't be punished. I DO disagree with HOW they're trying to punish her. It's a slippery slope, and you're all running on emotional lynchmob energy, rather than thinking about how much damage this would do if if actually went through. I frankly think the girl's parents needed to step in a lot sooner, and that she needed help, counseling and probably forbidden from using the Internet unsupervised given her fragile emotional state. Lori was a bitch for taking advantage of that, but she is by far not the only one to blame.
Yes, she deserves to be the case that makes violating the MySpace TOS (and by extension, ANY website TOS) a felony.
Sounds a little stupid when you think about it, eh? She's a horrible, petty, malicious bitch. No question about it. But think about what you're ACTUALLY asking to have done.
That girl could always walk away from the keyboard. There can be no torture without force. Raping and preying on kids sexually is a forceful act, one that requires actual action, rather than communication.
Lori Drew is a horrible bitch, but she's not guilty of the crime they're charging her with. She's not a hacker because she violated MySpace's TOS. If she is, then half the people using MySpace are felons.
What she's charged with is violating the TOS of myspace. Should that be a felony? A crime, even? I know you're thirsty for blood because "think of the chilluns!" is a wonderful rallying cry, but think about what you're ACTUALLY asking for. You're asking for websites TOS to be significantly legally binding. Does that not seem horribly stupid to you?
Charge her with something else, something valid, I'd get behind it. But using the wrong law to broaden the scope of power like this? That's asking for trouble.
If you did, should I then be convicted of bestiality?
The woman is not a nice person, no question. But you really need some perspective. It's nice to feel outraged, but when that outrage starts making it a felony to just fail to abide by somebody's random terms of service on their website? That'll fuck over society as a whole. Hard. And fails to assign the blame on the parents and the people who cared about that girl, because they didn't step in before this happened. Shit doesn't happen in a vacuum. Suicide is VERY rarely a spur of the moment decision. It's something that brews for a long time, building on lots of other emotional problems that can't be surmounted. Her family and friends failed her by not providing her the tools she needed to deal with her problems. Her family's failure is NOT a reason to charge a jackass with being... well, a jackass.
"Tortured"? You say it like she tied the girl up to the computer and forced her to communicate.
Her parents failed her. Her friends failed her. This woman was a horrible bitch, but that's all she's guilty of. That girl decided to take her own life because she was very, very unstable, and no one around her apparently cared enough to step in until it was too late. And now we cry foul?
Besides, did you even look at what she was charged with? Basically, violating the terms of service of MySpace is being conflated as the same thing as "unauthorized use of a computer system" or "hacking". A fucking felony. Do you follow the TOS of every single site you visit? And would you agree that anyone who doesn't follow the TOS is guilty of a felony?
The woman who did this was a horrible bitch, no question. But people need to take some fucking personal responsibility. There are mean people out there. Fact of life. Most of us learn to deal with it. Apparently, no one taught this girl how to. That's not the fault of the Internet "boyfriend".
...guilty of WHAT? Being a bitch? I agree. Is being a callous, uncaring bitch now a crime? I feel bad for the girl, but seriously... she killed herself over an Internet "boyfriend". Where the hell were her parents, and why didn't anyone have any clue she was unstable enough to kill herself over something as stupid as that? She was failed in multiple ways, and people are just blaming the straw that broke the camels back, and not paying attention to everything else that was there beforehand.
Really, would you want going against the TOS of a website (which is what she's basically being charged with) to actually count as a felony? Does that not seem horribly stupid to you?
BTW, you're a fucking retard. Go kill yourself. (whoops, better take that back... if you do, I might be brought up on felony charges).
As much as I'd like to see her punished for being a douchebag, what kind of slippery slope are we setting ourselves up for? A felony if you call someone a bad name? How stupid is that?
I agree that she is a horribly mean person (allegedly). But that 13 year old girl needed some fucking parenting and possibly psychiatric help if she was going to kill herself over a boy. I don't think it should be illegal to be a jackass to people, because then we open the (already leaking) floodgates to it being illegal to have your fucking feelings hurt.
Wait... you want new stuff, but you don't want to get new stuff? Isn't that what "upgrade" kinda, you know, means? "Stable" and "new" are very rarely coincidental... there's a reason they don't throw every new widget into a stable distro... because that would make it UN-stable.
You get a hell of a lot with Linux, I use 8.04 on my work laptop as I type this, but there's still really no way to have your cake and eat it, too. Mutually exclusive states and whatnot.
So why worry about it? The LTS isn't really mandatory. If they want to sync up the 6 month schedules, sweet. And then people who want an LTS version will pick Ubuntu, those that like Fedora stick with it... everyone wins.
Everyone hates Windows, but they're familiar with it. And different than Windows is apparently thought of as more painful than just dealing with the bullshit that Microsoft heaps upon you.
That said, there's a reason I've severely curtailed supporting Windows machines. If people are left to their own devices and not having an expert regularly maintain the system, they start realizing what a piece of crap Windows really is.
If the Book of Mormon says that the decendants of Cain were cursed with black skin, I'd say that's pretty much inherent in the doctrines of the religion. Just because people ignore that part now doesn't make it any less of a part of the religion.
Or do you now just get to pick and choose the parts of your religion that you follow, depending on what is popular and what isn't? Gotta love it. Internal consistency is only for people who actually think logically.
Saying "my religion is just as fucked up as other religions" isn't really that much of a defense. Just because you're as bad as other people, that makes it right and ok?
And re-read your link about the golden plates... all of those have physical evidence of, you know, EXISTING, as well as being much, much shorter in text than Joseph Smith's plates.
The sooner you realize that ALL religions are a sham and a ploy to control their congregation to different extents, the sooner your eyes will open.
Unfortunately 3DS Max is expensive! I haven't used it in quite a while because I can't afford $3500 for a hobby program and don't want to use an illegal version of it.
Which really seems like a great reason for you to learn Blender.
That's because the losses from internal sources are typically much higher than the losses from robbery. Besides, they pay insurance against robberies and the like, they can't insure against a clerk giving out two packs of cigs when only being paid for one without the camera. The businesses are paying attention to the forest, not the tree.
Yes. But what about the WRT54GLA that the AC I was responding to mentioned? I know what the WRT54G and WRT54GL are. I have a WRT54GL, and it works wonderfully.
Man, who needs that "high-def" streaming shit? Let's nip it in the bud right now by making it prohibitively expensive to get any better video than Youtube off the Intertubes. They should be watching our cable shows anyway, where they're slightly more captive of an audience.
The problem is that this starts opening the door to the "slippery slope" of them charging more and more for overages, and setting the caps lower and lower. It's a cheap, easy way to make more profit for the shareholders in the short-term, which is all anyone cares about any more. Just turn some numbers down, and watch the overage fees come pouring in.
Wait... you say that installing Vista on a piece of hardware specifically designed with Vista in mind...works? And that's supposed to be some kind of amazingly good thing? I thought that was just supposed to be how it works.
If you build hardware to support specific software, and vica versa, it will work! Tune in at 11 for the rest of this amazing story of triumph!
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Humans are the bad part, right? Those environmental terrorists are going about it all wrong. They need to kill themselves to be an example for the rest us uncaring individuals... :P
WHAT crime? What are you charging her with? Being a bitch?
The ONLY thing they're charging her with is computer misuse, hacking via ignoring a TOS.
I don't disagree that she shouldn't be punished. I DO disagree with HOW they're trying to punish her. It's a slippery slope, and you're all running on emotional lynchmob energy, rather than thinking about how much damage this would do if if actually went through. I frankly think the girl's parents needed to step in a lot sooner, and that she needed help, counseling and probably forbidden from using the Internet unsupervised given her fragile emotional state. Lori was a bitch for taking advantage of that, but she is by far not the only one to blame.
Yes, she deserves to be the case that makes violating the MySpace TOS (and by extension, ANY website TOS) a felony.
Sounds a little stupid when you think about it, eh? She's a horrible, petty, malicious bitch. No question about it. But think about what you're ACTUALLY asking to have done.
Actually, she is. The only charge that she's got is that she didn't follow the MySpace TOS.
She did a horrible thing, but do you really think that not following the TOS should be a felony? And if you do, are you fucking retarded?
That girl could always walk away from the keyboard. There can be no torture without force. Raping and preying on kids sexually is a forceful act, one that requires actual action, rather than communication.
Lori Drew is a horrible bitch, but she's not guilty of the crime they're charging her with. She's not a hacker because she violated MySpace's TOS. If she is, then half the people using MySpace are felons.
She forced her to sit at the keyboard? I never knew.
She was in no position of power, she didn't force anything. She was just a horrible bitch. That is not torture.
Or, if it is torture, is saying "America sucks, and it should be blown up!" terrorism?
That's not what she's charged with, though.
What she's charged with is violating the TOS of myspace. Should that be a felony? A crime, even? I know you're thirsty for blood because "think of the chilluns!" is a wonderful rallying cry, but think about what you're ACTUALLY asking for. You're asking for websites TOS to be significantly legally binding. Does that not seem horribly stupid to you?
Charge her with something else, something valid, I'd get behind it. But using the wrong law to broaden the scope of power like this? That's asking for trouble.
Go fuck a goat.
If you did, should I then be convicted of bestiality?
The woman is not a nice person, no question. But you really need some perspective. It's nice to feel outraged, but when that outrage starts making it a felony to just fail to abide by somebody's random terms of service on their website? That'll fuck over society as a whole. Hard. And fails to assign the blame on the parents and the people who cared about that girl, because they didn't step in before this happened. Shit doesn't happen in a vacuum. Suicide is VERY rarely a spur of the moment decision. It's something that brews for a long time, building on lots of other emotional problems that can't be surmounted. Her family and friends failed her by not providing her the tools she needed to deal with her problems. Her family's failure is NOT a reason to charge a jackass with being... well, a jackass.
"Tortured"? You say it like she tied the girl up to the computer and forced her to communicate.
Her parents failed her. Her friends failed her. This woman was a horrible bitch, but that's all she's guilty of. That girl decided to take her own life because she was very, very unstable, and no one around her apparently cared enough to step in until it was too late. And now we cry foul?
Besides, did you even look at what she was charged with? Basically, violating the terms of service of MySpace is being conflated as the same thing as "unauthorized use of a computer system" or "hacking". A fucking felony. Do you follow the TOS of every single site you visit? And would you agree that anyone who doesn't follow the TOS is guilty of a felony?
The woman who did this was a horrible bitch, no question. But people need to take some fucking personal responsibility. There are mean people out there. Fact of life. Most of us learn to deal with it. Apparently, no one taught this girl how to. That's not the fault of the Internet "boyfriend".
...guilty of WHAT? Being a bitch? I agree. Is being a callous, uncaring bitch now a crime? I feel bad for the girl, but seriously... she killed herself over an Internet "boyfriend". Where the hell were her parents, and why didn't anyone have any clue she was unstable enough to kill herself over something as stupid as that? She was failed in multiple ways, and people are just blaming the straw that broke the camels back, and not paying attention to everything else that was there beforehand.
Really, would you want going against the TOS of a website (which is what she's basically being charged with) to actually count as a felony? Does that not seem horribly stupid to you?
BTW, you're a fucking retard. Go kill yourself. (whoops, better take that back... if you do, I might be brought up on felony charges).
As much as I'd like to see her punished for being a douchebag, what kind of slippery slope are we setting ourselves up for? A felony if you call someone a bad name? How stupid is that?
I agree that she is a horribly mean person (allegedly). But that 13 year old girl needed some fucking parenting and possibly psychiatric help if she was going to kill herself over a boy. I don't think it should be illegal to be a jackass to people, because then we open the (already leaking) floodgates to it being illegal to have your fucking feelings hurt.
Er... that should be Kubuntu 8.04... even the preview doesn't help lazy reading :(
Wait... you want new stuff, but you don't want to get new stuff? Isn't that what "upgrade" kinda, you know, means? "Stable" and "new" are very rarely coincidental... there's a reason they don't throw every new widget into a stable distro... because that would make it UN-stable.
You get a hell of a lot with Linux, I use 8.04 on my work laptop as I type this, but there's still really no way to have your cake and eat it, too. Mutually exclusive states and whatnot.
So why worry about it? The LTS isn't really mandatory. If they want to sync up the 6 month schedules, sweet. And then people who want an LTS version will pick Ubuntu, those that like Fedora stick with it... everyone wins.
Everyone hates Windows, but they're familiar with it. And different than Windows is apparently thought of as more painful than just dealing with the bullshit that Microsoft heaps upon you.
That said, there's a reason I've severely curtailed supporting Windows machines. If people are left to their own devices and not having an expert regularly maintain the system, they start realizing what a piece of crap Windows really is.
If the Book of Mormon says that the decendants of Cain were cursed with black skin, I'd say that's pretty much inherent in the doctrines of the religion. Just because people ignore that part now doesn't make it any less of a part of the religion.
Or do you now just get to pick and choose the parts of your religion that you follow, depending on what is popular and what isn't? Gotta love it. Internal consistency is only for people who actually think logically.
Saying "my religion is just as fucked up as other religions" isn't really that much of a defense. Just because you're as bad as other people, that makes it right and ok?
And re-read your link about the golden plates... all of those have physical evidence of, you know, EXISTING, as well as being much, much shorter in text than Joseph Smith's plates.
The sooner you realize that ALL religions are a sham and a ploy to control their congregation to different extents, the sooner your eyes will open.
Which really seems like a great reason for you to learn Blender.
It is a toy. It's a very nice toy, but Sketchup is still just a toy when compared to things like Blender, Maya or Max.
That's because the losses from internal sources are typically much higher than the losses from robbery. Besides, they pay insurance against robberies and the like, they can't insure against a clerk giving out two packs of cigs when only being paid for one without the camera. The businesses are paying attention to the forest, not the tree.
Yes. But what about the WRT54GLA that the AC I was responding to mentioned? I know what the WRT54G and WRT54GL are. I have a WRT54GL, and it works wonderfully.
Man, who needs that "high-def" streaming shit? Let's nip it in the bud right now by making it prohibitively expensive to get any better video than Youtube off the Intertubes. They should be watching our cable shows anyway, where they're slightly more captive of an audience.
The problem is that this starts opening the door to the "slippery slope" of them charging more and more for overages, and setting the caps lower and lower. It's a cheap, easy way to make more profit for the shareholders in the short-term, which is all anyone cares about any more. Just turn some numbers down, and watch the overage fees come pouring in.
flamebait?
Wait... you say that installing Vista on a piece of hardware specifically designed with Vista in mind...works? And that's supposed to be some kind of amazingly good thing? I thought that was just supposed to be how it works.
If you build hardware to support specific software, and vica versa, it will work! Tune in at 11 for the rest of this amazing story of triumph!