I would pass any drug test and may pass this online screening. May not of course...;) But if getting a job depended on either of things I'd probably tell the company to go to hell.
The problem comes when they're the only game in town or if everyone starts doing it. Then it gets very very hard to fight unless you can make a lot of people care about it and effectively revolt (politically or physically). Unfortunately that's most unlikely. People are mostly willing to bend over and be shafted so long as they can feed their family.
It might have slightly higher staffing costs and turnover but that's no guarantee at all of anything. This magic hand of the market is a falsehood. Especially if it takes off and everyone does it.
And what if it turns out that this policy results in less sick days or some other less tangible benefit?
Probably, unsure at present, but you still need to get the data from somewhere, and here in Australia 25GB is a serious portion of your monthly broadband allowance for a lot of people. And it's gonna take a while to download, too.
That said, in places like malaysia, china etc, this may well open the door for large scale commercial piracy as they have many many shops that sell copies only.
I once went to one of these and surprised them.
"Ooooh! You want original! No, sorry, not here..."
Meh. Damned pirates, ruining it for us hackers.... and enabling us too I suppose.
'pirates' will find a way to re-enable it anyway. The fact that the exploit came out of the pirate circles and not homebrew types tells me that they're going to be a step ahead because they have both higher numbers and a financial motivation.
Non-pirates like myself also like being able to run games from a hard drive. In fact it's the primary reason I hack/crack/jailbreak/whatever my consoles.
Linux? Sure, I love linux, but it'll be not much more than a curiosity on my console. What I really want is hard-drive play (I don't care if the machine will only play games it has ripped itself, for instance) and a better media player.
Whilst I agree that the SDK is illegal to use (and I'm amazed at the number of people who don't understand this!) I wish the bluray redirection could stay.
It's not 'backups' I care about, it's loading my games from a hard drive. It's usually faster (in terms of load time etc) and I don't need to have game cases and the inevitable pile of discs hanging around. Perhaps in time we could find a way to create signed isos and exploits/loaders that check for backups being ripped by a specific machine before they load.
It wouldn't stop people working around it, making other versions that could play downloaded games, but it would at least remove the allegations that it was solely for piracy whilst allowing me my menu-launched programs. I suppose it would still allow old-school sneakernet piracy, but hey. that's on a totally different scale to the real current opyright 'threats'.
The potentially massive amounts of data on a bluray disc count in Sony's favour there I would think, it could take a loooooong time to download 50GB. Not that many games are quite that big, but still.
Anyway, screw 90% of people, this is slashdot, where we're supposed to care about whether you can run BSD on a toaster, or linux on a ps3.
Do all the people that modded the Wii play pirated games? I don't. Likewise with the PS2. But then I would try to install linux/BSD on a toaster if I thought there was a chance of it booting.
There are two options for linux on a Jailbroken PS3 -
1. Re-enable OtherOS. Some progress seems to have been made in this direction, one guy managed to get linux to install to an existing OtherOS partition by running the OtherOS installer, which can be made to work on cracked machine. However there doesn't seem to be a way of activating it. Work is currently going on to crack PS3s running fw version 3.15, so that a firmware dump of those can be analysed to see what the differences are and find out if there's an easy way to reactivate it in 3.41+ machines.
2. Boot linux, or some bootloader, directly from GameOS. This is going to require a FOSS SDK (one is underway I believe) as at the moment most homebrew uses a leaked Sony SDK. And then probably a fair bit of work to get it going.
IMHO, number 2 there is the better option, especially as GameOS has access to the GFX hardware when OtherOS never did. Though there are rumours that people have manged to get level 1 (hypervisor) access in the last few days, so it could all be up for change before long.
And I find your desire to control what I do with my electronics beyond merely distasteful.
I have cracked my PS3. I have loaded a couple of games onto the hard drive, from discs that I own. I've played around with the ftp server and the firmware loader to see what happens when I change things. I'm interested in being able to run linux on there again, maybe even with graphics acceleration this time. I would really like to get mplayer going in under GameOS so that the PS3 could play a wider range of media.
If Sony had not taken linux away, and had not crippled it in the first place, there wouldn't be so many people interested in this and it would be far easier to declare those doing so "pirates", though likely still not 100% accurate. As it is you have a lot of people interested in the freedom to use their device as they see fit, and damned straight they're all pushing in the same direction as those that fly under the Jolly Roger right now.
I'm sorry if you worry for your income stream, that would shake me too, but get your head out of your ass before calling it distasteful, please.
The information is not in its original form. It's an analogue representation of analogue data, that has been altered using the RIAA equalisation curve.
If you think you can hear the difference then it's either 1) Differences in mastering 2) your audio equipment adding that 'warm' sound you love 3) delusion.
You've been able to get add-on software for symbian phones since... well I had one in about 2005/6. Now they have the Ovi store. And yes, a lot of Nokia's Symbian phones are very similar to the competition. Not that that's always a good thing.
Me, I wish they'd drop Symbian in favour of Meego, but it doesn't look like that's happening any time soon. They are adopting Qt for both, which should allow for some portability.
How long does a full game take? I remember getting hooked into Civ2 for ridiculous amounts of time. I can't rmemeber how much precisely, but the figure of 18 hours springs to mind.
In fact the idea of putting pico-projectors into a cell phone has been around for a few years. Pair them with a laser keyboard and you have a tiny computer than seems a lot bigger.
I hope nobody either got any patents or actual money out of this, because it's frickin' obvious given the technology.
"most people would rather get on with life and vote for whoever requires them to think about it the least."
Because it sounds like you didn't. Or I wasn't clear enough. I was disagreeing that the pirate party are just people who want everything for free, and completely agreeing that most people don't give a rats arse as long as they don't have to think about it too much.
The only bit I object to in your argument is this -
And, if you spend your time employed rather than campaigning for the abandonment of the intellectual property concept, you will have enough money to pay for it anyway.
It's not necessarily about being able to afford to buy stuff. It's about rights and reform in the new digital age.
Other than that you're spot on, most people would rather get on with life and vote for whoever requires them to think about it the least.
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I would pass any drug test and may pass this online screening. May not of course... ;)
But if getting a job depended on either of things I'd probably tell the company to go to hell.
The problem comes when they're the only game in town or if everyone starts doing it. Then it gets very very hard to fight unless you can make a lot of people care about it and effectively revolt (politically or physically). Unfortunately that's most unlikely. People are mostly willing to bend over and be shafted so long as they can feed their family.
Do you really believe that?
It might have slightly higher staffing costs and turnover but that's no guarantee at all of anything. This magic hand of the market is a falsehood. Especially if it takes off and everyone does it.
And what if it turns out that this policy results in less sick days or some other less tangible benefit?
And then does that make it right and moral?
Probably, unsure at present, but you still need to get the data from somewhere, and here in Australia 25GB is a serious portion of your monthly broadband allowance for a lot of people. And it's gonna take a while to download, too.
That said, in places like malaysia, china etc, this may well open the door for large scale commercial piracy as they have many many shops that sell copies only.
I once went to one of these and surprised them.
"Ooooh! You want original! No, sorry, not here..."
Meh. Damned pirates, ruining it for us hackers.... and enabling us too I suppose.
Why should they crack down on it?
'pirates' will find a way to re-enable it anyway. The fact that the exploit came out of the pirate circles and not homebrew types tells me that they're going to be a step ahead because they have both higher numbers and a financial motivation.
Non-pirates like myself also like being able to run games from a hard drive. In fact it's the primary reason I hack/crack/jailbreak/whatever my consoles.
Linux? Sure, I love linux, but it'll be not much more than a curiosity on my console. What I really want is hard-drive play (I don't care if the machine will only play games it has ripped itself, for instance) and a better media player.
Whilst I agree that the SDK is illegal to use (and I'm amazed at the number of people who don't understand this!) I wish the bluray redirection could stay.
It's not 'backups' I care about, it's loading my games from a hard drive. It's usually faster (in terms of load time etc) and I don't need to have game cases and the inevitable pile of discs hanging around. Perhaps in time we could find a way to create signed isos and exploits/loaders that check for backups being ripped by a specific machine before they load.
It wouldn't stop people working around it, making other versions that could play downloaded games, but it would at least remove the allegations that it was solely for piracy whilst allowing me my menu-launched programs. I suppose it would still allow old-school sneakernet piracy, but hey. that's on a totally different scale to the real current opyright 'threats'.
The potentially massive amounts of data on a bluray disc count in Sony's favour there I would think, it could take a loooooong time to download 50GB. Not that many games are quite that big, but still.
Anyway, screw 90% of people, this is slashdot, where we're supposed to care about whether you can run BSD on a toaster, or linux on a ps3.
Do all the people that modded the Wii play pirated games? I don't. Likewise with the PS2. But then I would try to install linux/BSD on a toaster if I thought there was a chance of it booting.
"As a comparison, a two by eight LEGO plate brick, a very simple brick, is about twice the polygons of say, a World of Warcraft avatar."
Eh?
Ur doin it wrong?
Maybe they're not, and I'm sure that they know what they're talking about after such a long dev cycle, but that just doesn't seem right to me.
"How much of an idiot do you someone who read that is"
You read it and judging by the standard of grammar in your response it's clear you're a total fucking retard.
Yes absolutely, and I love it, it's an awesome little device!
There are two options for linux on a Jailbroken PS3 -
1. Re-enable OtherOS. Some progress seems to have been made in this direction, one guy managed to get linux to install to an existing OtherOS partition by running the OtherOS installer, which can be made to work on cracked machine. However there doesn't seem to be a way of activating it. Work is currently going on to crack PS3s running fw version 3.15, so that a firmware dump of those can be analysed to see what the differences are and find out if there's an easy way to reactivate it in 3.41+ machines.
2. Boot linux, or some bootloader, directly from GameOS. This is going to require a FOSS SDK (one is underway I believe) as at the moment most homebrew uses a leaked Sony SDK. And then probably a fair bit of work to get it going.
IMHO, number 2 there is the better option, especially as GameOS has access to the GFX hardware when OtherOS never did. Though there are rumours that people have manged to get level 1 (hypervisor) access in the last few days, so it could all be up for change before long.
And I find your desire to control what I do with my electronics beyond merely distasteful.
I have cracked my PS3. I have loaded a couple of games onto the hard drive, from discs that I own. I've played around with the ftp server and the firmware loader to see what happens when I change things. I'm interested in being able to run linux on there again, maybe even with graphics acceleration this time. I would really like to get mplayer going in under GameOS so that the PS3 could play a wider range of media.
If Sony had not taken linux away, and had not crippled it in the first place, there wouldn't be so many people interested in this and it would be far easier to declare those doing so "pirates", though likely still not 100% accurate. As it is you have a lot of people interested in the freedom to use their device as they see fit, and damned straight they're all pushing in the same direction as those that fly under the Jolly Roger right now.
I'm sorry if you worry for your income stream, that would shake me too, but get your head out of your ass before calling it distasteful, please.
I can't believe it hasn't had a mention in this thread -
The PSFreedom hack started out with someone tinkering with their N900 - the full-fat linux phone.
The Android, iPhone, dingoo and other PSFreedom ports originate there.
Why?
I'm a geek and I like have linux on my phone, that's all :)
They are prone to damage.
The information is not in its original form. It's an analogue representation of analogue data, that has been altered using the RIAA equalisation curve.
If you think you can hear the difference then it's either 1) Differences in mastering 2) your audio equipment adding that 'warm' sound you love 3) delusion.
Yes, yes and yes.
You've been able to get add-on software for symbian phones since... well I had one in about 2005/6. Now they have the Ovi store. And yes, a lot of Nokia's Symbian phones are very similar to the competition. Not that that's always a good thing.
Me, I wish they'd drop Symbian in favour of Meego, but it doesn't look like that's happening any time soon. They are adopting Qt for both, which should allow for some portability.
Well colour me surprised.
I suppose it is the French though, and they do have at least a minor inclination to support consumer and worker rights.
Probably not very much as it's not income or profit, it's used to purchase stuff for the business... ?
Words. They have meanings. Atheist - without religion. Agnostic - without knowledge. I am both, I suspect you are too.
On;y 4-5 hours?
How long does a full game take? I remember getting hooked into Civ2 for ridiculous amounts of time. I can't rmemeber how much precisely, but the figure of 18 hours springs to mind.
In fact the idea of putting pico-projectors into a cell phone has been around for a few years. Pair them with a laser keyboard and you have a tiny computer than seems a lot bigger.
I hope nobody either got any patents or actual money out of this, because it's frickin' obvious given the technology.
Court? Why would they bother involving a court? This is a rule bought by or for big media, they don't want to have to spend money on lawyers.
No, there will be no courts involved. Three strikes and you're just SOL.
Did you read my post?
let me show you again -
"most people would rather get on with life and vote for whoever requires them to think about it the least."
Because it sounds like you didn't. Or I wasn't clear enough. I was disagreeing that the pirate party are just people who want everything for free, and completely agreeing that most people don't give a rats arse as long as they don't have to think about it too much.
The only bit I object to in your argument is this -
And, if you spend your time employed rather than campaigning for the abandonment of the intellectual property concept, you will have enough money to pay for it anyway.
It's not necessarily about being able to afford to buy stuff. It's about rights and reform in the new digital age.
Other than that you're spot on, most people would rather get on with life and vote for whoever requires them to think about it the least.
"At what point do you get that sense of entitlement that you're allowed to pirate content? If you don't think it's worth the money, move on."
FTFY.
Otherwise agreed.
"I don't want to live on this planet any more. Where's my rocket ship and an uninhabited moonlet..."
I wish I didn't get that feeling so damned much these days!