If you never learnt HTML5, CSS, Javascript and the DOM etc. then you still have to learn them. Hell, web development has all that, plus one or more back end languages (PHP, Python, Node.js etc.), plus paying for a host and setting up a server. It's a lot more complicated than say, Visual Basic.
It's probably worth it if you want to write an "app" and its back end and have the stuff accessible from a desktop PC as well (or the browser on other kinds of mobile phones)
The trend to hide the menu and still have accessible by 'alt' is fairly more recent, Windows Vista Explorer maybe? I find it fairly idiotic : you have to know there's a hidden menu. The old menu usability spec (Motif and Windows 2.0?) wasn't intended to be raped like that and I know of no other application that does that, besides the Vista/7 file manager (which I don't use)
Fortunately there are two other ways to enable the menu bar. (and F10 as a second "trick" key)
I like a desktop without animations (barring that window outline that collapses towards the window's task bar button when I minimize the window). I'm open to change : now I'm fine to showing the window's content when it's moved. I will use a compositor (X11 or Wayland) the day I'm strictly forced to, after figuring out how to disable the shadows.
The most tragic thing in all of this is the whole concept of getting linux games from a single source, with DRM. No self-published games, no other non Steam publishers, no freeware, no shareware : that's all for Windows, with few exceptions. Maybe they'll be other stores eventually (like GOG) but for now, you rely on Steam to reliably run native games under linux (if you have suitable graphics hardware and drivers).
Well, at least I can play Counterstrike 1.6 on linux. That's all I use it for - it's reliable, uses OpenGL 1.x, I can alt-tab from it to lower the global sound volume and it's good. I waited like 7 years to play that game, lol. (I used to play the 1.5 non Steam version even when it was supposedly impossible to play anymore) I'm not buying games anymore : I never know when Valve has "sales" anyway and filling the "library" with weird low quality games bought at 3 euros a piece just to try them out is boring. Importantly, I have no clear idea what benefit I would get from upgrading hardware in order to play more demanding games.. if there are like a grand total of ten of them?
If your games only run for a few years and then the new distro can't run them then it really sucks. I've been wondering if something like RHEL, Solaris or FreeBSD would be a better gaming OS than your typical distro. (Of course the latter ones would have bad hardware support, such as just nvidia for graphics, Intel and Realtek for sound and network, and get lost if you have anything else)
- linux games (currently, steam OS works better as a light box to play your game on the living room's big screen/projector by *streaming them* out of a Windows war machine somewhere else in the appartment, rather than playing them directly there. Porting takes time).
That sucks if you wanted to play games at a desk from your linux machine. Why not put the Windows machine next to the projector/big screen and stream games to your linux desktop!
Repurpose them with FreeDOS of course! In the mean time while waiting for SteamOS, users can play Arkanoid or Wolfenstein 3D, just hope they included a PC speaker or buzzer else the PC will remain silent. BIOS emulation will give you USB mouse support.
Isn't it some very generic recommendation? i.e. meaning you can expect to run a 400TB volume without your software and system crashing or running like shit.
It's good enough for me, it made me switch from a three-row browser UI to a two-row one after all those years, and I can hand it confidently to other users. I get to keep pet features like showing zoom buttons on the toolbar (like any PDF reader has zooming controls) and access to a list of tabs to "unclose".
It's trivial to add the menu bar : I so got used to the browser, and after using it fresh on new computer I switched the menu bar off on mine.
Oh crap. This is sad, I hope they get this fixed. I want to believe that FF29 is the major "breaks things" version and that after that the subsequent versions will be better.
Most laptops are used like a desktop : never leaving the home, and sometimes almost never leaving the same table or desk. Now, all is needed IMO is a thick laptop, even without a dedicated GPU, so that the cooling is much bigger, much quieter, easily serviceable and still works fine after five years.
There's right-click on the tool bar then click "Menu bar", to show the old menus permanently (I did not know about the alt key, I think I will sometimes use it)
It might get possible in the future, or in select integrated desktops ; for now at least the modern big GPUs have much better power management than before. Showing the desktop or even idling with the screen turned off was a huge power waste when you ran a e.g. Radeon 4870 or GTX 275, but with a GTX 780 or Radeon 7970 it's almost a gentle power bump next to not having the card in the first place. Of note is Radeon "zerocore power" which does shut the card down, but only when the PC's display goes stand by.
Nvidia did have a real try at it (motherboard with geforce 8200 or 8300 chipset (integrated graphics), and geforce 9800GT or 9800GTX). Very few desktop PCs ever had that combinaison of hardware and then they exited the chipset market and had that stuff quietly forgotten.
Nvidia does let people use the full computing featureset and performance barring ECC memory on a GTX Titan. Memory capacity is high too (6GB) though now there's also GTX 780 with that amount..
They have this hierarchy (based on virtually the same cards, but drivers and segmentation differ, in increasing price order) GTX 780 and 780 Ti (3GB or 6GB) < GTX Titan (6GB) < Tesla (w/ 5GB, 6GB or 12GB) < Quadro K6000 (12GB)
That gives : - gaming and GPGPU, double precision FP artificially much slower - gaming and GPGPU, double precision FP at regular speed - GPGPU only, double precision FP at regular speed, ECC can be enabled (to number crunches for weeks and monthes on) - all features of inferior models plus the support for CAD and industrial/high end software plus the weird features (quad buffer stereo, and miscellaneous) though the driver is not really meant to be good in games.
You mean you care so much about this game so as to watch long videos of people playing it, then you're pissed because you're spoiled? What about not watching the videos. I didn't watch the videos. Simple, done. I still won't play the game but that's because I won't buy a new PC to play it.
There's that potassium, and phosphorus.. Both are major elements used in fertilizers for industrial agriculture, i.e. we rely on them for cheap and abundant food. So collecting and harvesting piss could become very important.
Socket 8 had no cache on motherboard at all;), the CPU virtually had on-die L2 cache. Most Pentium Pro had one 256KB L2 die closely attached to the CPU die, some had one 512K die, and some (atrociously expensive, for high end quad CPU set up) had two 512K dies. It's why the socket and CPU are a big rectangle, and it did cost a ton : you would attach L2 and CPU, and then the chip was dead if any of the two was dead. Pentium II and first Athlon moved to a cartridge, where the L2 chip(s) were separate from the CPU but geographically quite close. L2 ran at half speed (and third speed on the higher clocked Athlons). That solution was half way between the Pentium Pro and the older cache-on-motherboard scheme. Then integrating L2 right into the CPU die superseded it.
Some late Socket 7 mobo ("Super 7" for K6/2 and such) did come up with 1024K and 2048K on the motherboard.
paid for in bitcoins and developed with a Raspberri Pi cluster.
Fuck, if you wanted to discredit 3D printers then fantasies about Mars bases would be perfect. Sorry, I don't get how technological anarchism shit and a $100 billion+ suicide mission to a cold underpressurized piece of rock relate together. I can't wait for ISS to be deorbited in 2020 and then most manned space missions to be canceled. I don't give a fuck. Even pissing-contest yachts should be outllawed and seized by the owners's States without compensation. Stop wasting fuel by the millions gallons for your childish leisures.
wtf? Yes, ignore all those people concerned with things such as food security and ocean life collapse. On the other hand I should listen to your opinion on what ice cover should be "usual". Let me guess, you live in a certain 1st world country and have a very high annual income, $50K or more. If the worst happen, you'll just buy a different product at Walmart et al. or tweak your thermostat, so who cares. And you can even afford to move to a different place. Good for you. Now keep on making stuff up to help you rationalize and feel comfortable but don't pretend you know anything. More bluntly, enough with that notion that global warming is a conspiracy. I'm tired of that shit, it's ridiculous. It's thanks to people like you repeating lies and "conspiracy" propaganda that the Nazis got in power.
But MESA isn't OpenGL 4.0 compliant yet and that "ARB_buffer_storage" extension is from OpenGL 4.4.. How is it likely that somehow will write an hybrid application that supports OpenGL 3.3 (or 3.1) plus that one mismatched extension?
Then, maybe Ivy Bridge and some cards are supported under OpenGL 3.3 but you need to upgrade to a very recent linux distro (unless you like manual installations or unoffical sources) and then crucially, Sandy Bridge only supports OpenGL 3.1. So your application or game will target OpenGL 3.1 unless you can afford to exclude millions potential users.
tl;dr you are optimistic, and some real progress is made, but these things will still take monthes/years to get usable and/or working.
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I think you mix up this thread with another one.
thanks for that link
What's the other use of a legal hand gun? Hunting pigeon, hammering nails, switching off the television?
If you never learnt HTML5, CSS, Javascript and the DOM etc. then you still have to learn them.
Hell, web development has all that, plus one or more back end languages (PHP, Python, Node.js etc.), plus paying for a host and setting up a server. It's a lot more complicated than say, Visual Basic.
It's probably worth it if you want to write an "app" and its back end and have the stuff accessible from a desktop PC as well (or the browser on other kinds of mobile phones)
No plan but it's a "T-mobile", does that mean you buy a locked phone upfront?
The trend to hide the menu and still have accessible by 'alt' is fairly more recent, Windows Vista Explorer maybe?
I find it fairly idiotic : you have to know there's a hidden menu. The old menu usability spec (Motif and Windows 2.0?) wasn't intended to be raped like that and I know of no other application that does that, besides the Vista/7 file manager (which I don't use)
Fortunately there are two other ways to enable the menu bar. (and F10 as a second "trick" key)
I like a desktop without animations (barring that window outline that collapses towards the window's task bar button when I minimize the window).
I'm open to change : now I'm fine to showing the window's content when it's moved.
I will use a compositor (X11 or Wayland) the day I'm strictly forced to, after figuring out how to disable the shadows.
The most tragic thing in all of this is the whole concept of getting linux games from a single source, with DRM. No self-published games, no other non Steam publishers, no freeware, no shareware : that's all for Windows, with few exceptions. Maybe they'll be other stores eventually (like GOG) but for now, you rely on Steam to reliably run native games under linux (if you have suitable graphics hardware and drivers).
Well, at least I can play Counterstrike 1.6 on linux. That's all I use it for - it's reliable, uses OpenGL 1.x, I can alt-tab from it to lower the global sound volume and it's good. I waited like 7 years to play that game, lol. (I used to play the 1.5 non Steam version even when it was supposedly impossible to play anymore)
I'm not buying games anymore : I never know when Valve has "sales" anyway and filling the "library" with weird low quality games bought at 3 euros a piece just to try them out is boring. Importantly, I have no clear idea what benefit I would get from upgrading hardware in order to play more demanding games.. if there are like a grand total of ten of them?
If your games only run for a few years and then the new distro can't run them then it really sucks. I've been wondering if something like RHEL, Solaris or FreeBSD would be a better gaming OS than your typical distro. (Of course the latter ones would have bad hardware support, such as just nvidia for graphics, Intel and Realtek for sound and network, and get lost if you have anything else)
- linux games (currently, steam OS works better as a light box to play your game on the living room's big screen/projector by *streaming them* out of a Windows war machine somewhere else in the appartment, rather than playing them directly there. Porting takes time).
That sucks if you wanted to play games at a desk from your linux machine.
Why not put the Windows machine next to the projector/big screen and stream games to your linux desktop!
Repurpose them with FreeDOS of course! In the mean time while waiting for SteamOS, users can play Arkanoid or Wolfenstein 3D, just hope they included a PC speaker or buzzer else the PC will remain silent. BIOS emulation will give you USB mouse support.
Isn't it some very generic recommendation? i.e. meaning you can expect to run a 400TB volume without your software and system crashing or running like shit.
It's good enough for me, it made me switch from a three-row browser UI to a two-row one after all those years, and I can hand it confidently to other users.
I get to keep pet features like showing zoom buttons on the toolbar (like any PDF reader has zooming controls) and access to a list of tabs to "unclose".
It's trivial to add the menu bar : I so got used to the browser, and after using it fresh on new computer I switched the menu bar off on mine.
Oh crap. This is sad, I hope they get this fixed.
I want to believe that FF29 is the major "breaks things" version and that after that the subsequent versions will be better.
Most laptops are used like a desktop : never leaving the home, and sometimes almost never leaving the same table or desk.
Now, all is needed IMO is a thick laptop, even without a dedicated GPU, so that the cooling is much bigger, much quieter, easily serviceable and still works fine after five years.
There's right-click on the tool bar then click "Menu bar", to show the old menus permanently (I did not know about the alt key, I think I will sometimes use it)
It might get possible in the future, or in select integrated desktops ; for now at least the modern big GPUs have much better power management than before. Showing the desktop or even idling with the screen turned off was a huge power waste when you ran a e.g. Radeon 4870 or GTX 275, but with a GTX 780 or Radeon 7970 it's almost a gentle power bump next to not having the card in the first place. Of note is Radeon "zerocore power" which does shut the card down, but only when the PC's display goes stand by.
Nvidia did have a real try at it (motherboard with geforce 8200 or 8300 chipset (integrated graphics), and geforce 9800GT or 9800GTX). Very few desktop PCs ever had that combinaison of hardware and then they exited the chipset market and had that stuff quietly forgotten.
Nvidia does let people use the full computing featureset and performance barring ECC memory on a GTX Titan. Memory capacity is high too (6GB) though now there's also GTX 780 with that amount..
They have this hierarchy (based on virtually the same cards, but drivers and segmentation differ, in increasing price order)
GTX 780 and 780 Ti (3GB or 6GB) < GTX Titan (6GB) < Tesla (w/ 5GB, 6GB or 12GB) < Quadro K6000 (12GB)
That gives :
- gaming and GPGPU, double precision FP artificially much slower
- gaming and GPGPU, double precision FP at regular speed
- GPGPU only, double precision FP at regular speed, ECC can be enabled (to number crunches for weeks and monthes on)
- all features of inferior models plus the support for CAD and industrial/high end software plus the weird features (quad buffer stereo, and miscellaneous) though the driver is not really meant to be good in games.
It's the new Sega 32X. Enjoy!
You mean you care so much about this game so as to watch long videos of people playing it, then you're pissed because you're spoiled? What about not watching the videos. I didn't watch the videos. Simple, done. I still won't play the game but that's because I won't buy a new PC to play it.
There's that potassium, and phosphorus.. Both are major elements used in fertilizers for industrial agriculture, i.e. we rely on them for cheap and abundant food. So collecting and harvesting piss could become very important.
Socket 8 had no cache on motherboard at all ;), the CPU virtually had on-die L2 cache. Most Pentium Pro had one 256KB L2 die closely attached to the CPU die, some had one 512K die, and some (atrociously expensive, for high end quad CPU set up) had two 512K dies.
It's why the socket and CPU are a big rectangle, and it did cost a ton : you would attach L2 and CPU, and then the chip was dead if any of the two was dead.
Pentium II and first Athlon moved to a cartridge, where the L2 chip(s) were separate from the CPU but geographically quite close. L2 ran at half speed (and third speed on the higher clocked Athlons). That solution was half way between the Pentium Pro and the older cache-on-motherboard scheme. Then integrating L2 right into the CPU die superseded it.
Some late Socket 7 mobo ("Super 7" for K6/2 and such) did come up with 1024K and 2048K on the motherboard.
paid for in bitcoins and developed with a Raspberri Pi cluster.
Fuck, if you wanted to discredit 3D printers then fantasies about Mars bases would be perfect. Sorry, I don't get how technological anarchism shit and a $100 billion+ suicide mission to a cold underpressurized piece of rock relate together.
I can't wait for ISS to be deorbited in 2020 and then most manned space missions to be canceled. I don't give a fuck. Even pissing-contest yachts should be outllawed and seized by the owners's States without compensation. Stop wasting fuel by the millions gallons for your childish leisures.
wtf? Yes, ignore all those people concerned with things such as food security and ocean life collapse. On the other hand I should listen to your opinion on what ice cover should be "usual".
Let me guess, you live in a certain 1st world country and have a very high annual income, $50K or more. If the worst happen, you'll just buy a different product at Walmart et al. or tweak your thermostat, so who cares. And you can even afford to move to a different place. Good for you. Now keep on making stuff up to help you rationalize and feel comfortable but don't pretend you know anything. More bluntly, enough with that notion that global warming is a conspiracy. I'm tired of that shit, it's ridiculous. It's thanks to people like you repeating lies and "conspiracy" propaganda that the Nazis got in power.
But MESA isn't OpenGL 4.0 compliant yet and that "ARB_buffer_storage" extension is from OpenGL 4.4.. How is it likely that somehow will write an hybrid application that supports OpenGL 3.3 (or 3.1) plus that one mismatched extension?
Then, maybe Ivy Bridge and some cards are supported under OpenGL 3.3 but you need to upgrade to a very recent linux distro (unless you like manual installations or unoffical sources) and then crucially, Sandy Bridge only supports OpenGL 3.1. So your application or game will target OpenGL 3.1 unless you can afford to exclude millions potential users.
tl;dr you are optimistic, and some real progress is made, but these things will still take monthes/years to get usable and/or working.