FreeBSD maybe easy to install but it's seriously lacking hardware support...the last release I tried was 2.2.8 . It didn't support hardly anything I had in the machine, wouldn't even install on the one because of the Mylex scsi board. I have had caldera 2.2 and mandrake 6 on this same pc with everything working...even my original slack3 distro supported my mylex board (a 3 year distro). Granted it was FreeBSD 2.2.8 but a 3 year old copy of slack supported more.
I think if IBM wants to promote that their boxes are linux compatible they should start making drivers for mwave or release source on them. I have been working on Thinkpads for over 3 years going on 4 and those pesky mwave modems are direct from satan.:) I like the thinkpads though I think they are a bit over priced IMHO . I think it is a good move on IBM's part to start getting an interest in linux.
You don't need to convince me, I am not against linux I have two boxes going on a third. My point was, if you are going to make statements about corporate use of a computer lets make a fair comparison. Considering the source (being M$ ) there will never be a fair comparison because M$ doesn't want everyone by their admission that linux is better, because it is. I hate NT, they use it on the desktop here at work. I don't, I have win98 (which isn't much better but isn't as bloated as nt or better yet..it's not NT). For a reliable and stable os the obvious choice is linux.. it isn't perfect but compared to 95/98 (being they both about the same approximate age) linux is way far ahead. Compared to NT, I have no doubt if a 'FAIR' comparison was done the linux would be a real good contender if not a definate winner.
One key issue about "UNIX is old" is that unix is stable because of that age. Most corporations that I looked up using Netcrafts "what's that site running"is running solaris and netscape server...although I looked up www.amd.com and it is a Linux box with Apache. It says something about an os's stability when it has a nick name for it's crashes called "The Blue Screen of Death". Simple logic would rule that if something happens so often that it requires an actual given name to the event tells you something. Let's look at the linux is hard aspect as viewed by a corportate user that has only seen a windows 95 type gui. Put that user in a full screen command prompt mode and see if they know what to do. Take that same person and put them in a full screen terminal screen on a linux box and see if they know what to do. Finally take that person and put them on the desktop of KDE 'for example' (insert you favorite WM here) and see what they do. When it comes down to it, most people would say even the 95/nt desktop is "hard". From my corportate view people don't technically know how to operate the computer. All they know to do is double click here and click there etc etc. If something isn't the way they learned it or if something changed they consider the pc broke or not working. This is not their fault, in most cases the pc is being forced on them to do a job they may have done for years with out one.
That is going to be interesting. I go to cedar point once a year with a friend of mine. I am only about 2 hours south sorta diagonal from Sandusky toward akron. We were up there last year and we didn't see any signs of construction or 'coming soon'. The middle of the park is about where the power tower is. I wonder what is going to go. The island isn't small but it isn't big like someone else..one thing to remember is, it is still an island. It would be cool if they put toward the back where the magnum is, have the two tallests fastest coasters with couple hundred yards of one another.
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FreeBSD maybe easy to install but it's seriously lacking hardware support...the last release I tried was 2.2.8 . It didn't support hardly anything I had in the machine, wouldn't even install on the one because of the Mylex scsi board. I have had caldera 2.2 and mandrake 6 on this same pc with everything working...even my original slack3 distro supported my mylex board (a 3 year distro). Granted it was FreeBSD 2.2.8 but a 3 year old copy of slack supported more.
I think if IBM wants to promote that their boxes are linux compatible they should start making drivers for mwave or release source on them. I have been working on Thinkpads for over 3 years going on 4 and those pesky mwave modems are direct from satan. :) I like the thinkpads though I think they are a bit over priced IMHO . I think it is a good move on IBM's part to start getting an interest in linux.
You don't need to convince me, I am not against linux I have two boxes going on a third. My point was, if you are going to make statements about corporate use of a computer lets make a fair comparison.
Considering the source (being M$ ) there will never be a fair comparison because M$ doesn't want everyone by their admission that linux is better, because it is. I hate NT, they use it on the desktop here at work. I don't, I have win98 (which isn't much better but isn't as bloated as nt or better yet..it's not NT).
For a reliable and stable os the obvious choice is linux.. it isn't perfect but compared to 95/98 (being they both about the same approximate age) linux is way far ahead. Compared to NT, I have no doubt if a 'FAIR' comparison was done the linux would be a real good contender if not a definate winner.
One key issue about "UNIX is old" is that unix is stable because of that age. Most corporations that I looked up using Netcrafts "what's that site running"is running solaris and netscape server...although I looked up www.amd.com and it is a Linux box with Apache.
It says something about an os's stability when it has a nick name for it's crashes called "The Blue Screen of Death". Simple logic would rule that if something happens so often that it requires an actual given name to the event tells you something. Let's look at the linux is hard aspect as viewed by a corportate user that has only seen a windows 95 type gui. Put that user in a full screen command prompt mode and see if they know what to do. Take that same person and put them in a full screen terminal screen on a linux box and see if they know what to do. Finally take that person and put them on the desktop of KDE 'for example' (insert you favorite WM here) and see what they do. When it comes down to it, most people would say even the 95/nt desktop is "hard".
From my corportate view people don't technically know how to operate the computer. All they know to do is double click here and click there etc etc. If something isn't the way they learned it or if something changed they consider the pc broke or not working. This is not their fault, in most cases the pc is being forced on them to do a job they may have done for years with out one.
That is going to be interesting. I go to cedar point once a year with a friend of mine. I am only about 2 hours south sorta diagonal from Sandusky toward akron. We were up there last year and we didn't see any signs of construction or 'coming soon'. The middle of the park is about where the power tower is. I wonder what is going to go. The island isn't small but it isn't big like someone else..one thing to remember is, it is still an island. It would be cool if they put toward the back where the magnum is, have the two tallests fastest coasters with couple hundred yards of one another.