Why is it such an affront to a game geek's pride when a girl beats them at a game?
Must I even answer this question? Maybe I didn't bold the part to make it simple enough. I said Girl!:)
Surely you don't have the same reaction when another guy beats you
Yes, it's a different reaction. When a girl beats me it's astonishment. When a guy beats me it's a strong desire to get better in which to beat him.
so is this just due to the stereotype that girls can't be as good at games
Not can't, generally aren't.
thus if you lose to a girl, you then think you're pretty bad?
See, you've got it!
(To be fair, I did make use of that attitude to rub it in at times when playing some Q2 CTF matches, and I could tell some guys got really pissed when they realized it was a girl defending the base that kept putting railgun slugs through their head)
Don't get me wrong, I love girls. I'm even dating one.
But that doesn't mean that I at any point expect them to beat me in any video game. I care about them more than they do. I have refined my skills.
It's just rare.
BTW - what the heck is this 'starfall' thing you're complaining about?
Almost every girl I know that is a gamer, plays Warcraft 3.
Every girl I know that plays Warcraft 3 uses the Night Elves.
Let's give credit where credit is due, folks. Take the time to find out who wrote the quote you're posting, or people might think that you're trying to pretend like it's your own.
'Normal Gamers' don't go to Lan parties. I know plenty of 'normal' gamers, well adjusted, fairly into the hobby, and pretty knowledgable and up on the latest stuff, and not one of them would be hard-core enough to go to a LAN party...
Oh I'm sorry, by normal I meant hardcore.
Not only did I not read the article, I didn't read the title.
No prob. Translation: he picked up a 1.53 ghz AMD chip for a non-SMP mobo. The dealer was selling 266 FSB DDR for ~50 for a 512 DIMM, cause SWG was dropping frames on his old 133 FSB stuff. He already had the 64MB nVidia GeForce 2.
Much better!
See... if people just cut down on some of the jargon, it's easily understandable.
Thank you Surak. Without you, I may have never known the plight of his frame drop.
Dude, seriously, there is a limit to everything. I like playing games, probably spend an hour a day in average (I sometimes play an entire weekend, bringing up the average quite a bit). However, I am not the least proud of it, nor does it bother me. I do it because I think its fun, and I don't let it become my identity, which it appears is what you have done.
After a tackle in Rugby League, the tackled player stands up and rolls the ball backwards with his foot (this is the "play the ball" -- equivalent to "the snap" in the NFL). The player stood behind the tackled player, who receives the ball and picks it up (and it can be any player on the team) is the "dummy half" (for that play-the-ball).
I understood everything you just said, but imagining that just seems very odd.
The most commonly butchered tech-related word. What's that Lie-nucks thing again?
Ah the memories. I had installed linux for a year before I had ever heard anyone actually say the word. Of course, I called it Lie-nucks! Guy thought I was a moron, but I knew more than he did. Just had never actually heard it out loud.
I never thought about it, but we must sound really funny to non-technically inclined people. "Yea, I picked up the Athlon 1800 XP, you know the one point five three three gig, and the dude was selling pc2100 for like 50 a stick of 512 so I figured what the hell, cause Galaxies was running choppy with my old 133 stuff and the 64 meg GeForce two I had."
I don't even understand people when they talk like that.
I'm always amazed because I will talk to someone about computers (like a sales manager) and they will be able to spin off all of this computer jargon I've never heard of. Granted they don't understand how anything actually works on the computer, but they sure can talk the talk.
Not because its complex, but because its jargon from a field in which you're not very proficient
Exactly, so how is this news?!
You just proved that the general public is confused by any jargon they are unfamiliar with..... Tell me what a dummy half is, I must know... Everything else in this post was just an excuse to ask that.
We all know daytime is for posting on/. and downloading pr0n and the odd bit of coding. All night should be spent in a dimly it room blowing up computer-generated bad guys
and the afternoon is for 4 hours trying to lan everyone's frickin machine together.
Was quite proud of the fact that she could go to her sorority's formal, get completely trashed, and STILL kick the asses of the guys in her dorm after she returned at 2 AM.
Drunken gaming was VERY common at school.
Only to prove how good you really were. Getting stoned and playing a mind numbing game like golf with friends, yes.
yes there are lots of non geeks who play video games. but all the people who i know who are "gamers" do spend their days in dimly lit rooms, not showering, and eating crap all day.
We shower between 8 hour sittings, thank you very much.
I'm not sure if that alone is the problem - to me it's more the people who do this to the exclusion of going out and seeing people (non-gamers!) face-to-face in the real world (and I don't mean at LAN parties).
What is wrong with meeting people at lan parties?!
Or BBS gatherings. Or Chess clubs. or any other perceived geek gathering place?
There is nothing wrong with it. You just dismiss it because it isn't the way that you would meet people.
Science Fiction conventions, and model airplanes, tis the life for I!
It pains me that this is news 2X over on slashdot in 2 days. Although it points out that while not all gamers are geeks, many of them ARE or this wouldnt be news. BTW, I'm both a gamer and a geek and proud of being both.
This is the only news story I want duped on a daily basis.
Also send a copy to several of my ex-girlfriends.
"Hell hath no fury like a woman's scorn for Sega." - Brodie
"Actually a lot of people I know are occasional gamers. They arent obsessed with them and associate with "normal" people... The problem is when you become addicted and sit in front of your computer all day."
Every Lan party I've ever been to, an hour into the gaming, even the normal gamers are addicted.
It is just fun to play a competitive game with friends. Especially when you don't have to run or jump to do so. It's pretend!
Girls also have a realistic chance to be competitive. Stupid starfall.
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Hrm! Maybe it is!
Perhaps you should expand on your idea, and we will discuss the plausability of such!
Really? Did they?
Are ya sure?
I think yar lyin' to us!
That was really it....
Loved the reply.
Why is it such an affront to a game geek's pride when a girl beats them at a game?
:)
Must I even answer this question? Maybe I didn't bold the part to make it simple enough. I said Girl!
Surely you don't have the same reaction when another guy beats you
Yes, it's a different reaction. When a girl beats me it's astonishment. When a guy beats me it's a strong desire to get better in which to beat him.
so is this just due to the stereotype that girls can't be as good at games
Not can't, generally aren't.
thus if you lose to a girl, you then think you're pretty bad?
See, you've got it!
(To be fair, I did make use of that attitude to rub it in at times when playing some Q2 CTF matches, and I could tell some guys got really pissed when they realized it was a girl defending the base that kept putting railgun slugs through their head)
Don't get me wrong, I love girls. I'm even dating one.
But that doesn't mean that I at any point expect them to beat me in any video game. I care about them more than they do. I have refined my skills.
It's just rare.
BTW - what the heck is this 'starfall' thing you're complaining about?
Almost every girl I know that is a gamer, plays Warcraft 3.
Every girl I know that plays Warcraft 3 uses the Night Elves.
The Night Elves hero has a spell called Starfall.
It is utterly wicked.
Imagine. (Score:-1, Insightful)
Never seen that before.
Let's give credit where credit is due, folks. Take the time to find out who wrote the quote you're posting, or people might think that you're trying to pretend like it's your own.
Hey! If Bob Dylan doesn't have to give credit, than neither do we.
'Normal Gamers' don't go to Lan parties. I know plenty of 'normal' gamers, well adjusted, fairly into the hobby, and pretty knowledgable and up on the latest stuff, and not one of them would be hard-core enough to go to a LAN party...
Oh I'm sorry, by normal I meant hardcore.
Not only did I not read the article, I didn't read the title.
I think gamer girls would be much more appealing if it wasn't for frickin starfall!
You don't have to be a full time hermit to be a gamer.
But it helps....
Mod parent +1 Funny!
No prob. Translation: he picked up a 1.53 ghz AMD chip for a non-SMP mobo. The dealer was selling 266 FSB DDR for ~50 for a 512 DIMM, cause SWG was dropping frames on his old 133 FSB stuff. He already had the 64MB nVidia GeForce 2.
Much better!
See... if people just cut down on some of the jargon, it's easily understandable.
Thank you Surak. Without you, I may have never known the plight of his frame drop.
Aside from your 9/11 spin, that rocked.
Thank you.
Trust me, us geek girls that do hang around gamers are much better to be around than most bar sluts - you can actually have a conversation with us.
Right, but then we have to swallow our pride as we lose an argument, and then at Warcraft.
I hate starfall!
Dude, seriously, there is a limit to everything.
I like playing games, probably spend an hour a day in average (I sometimes play an entire weekend, bringing up the average quite a bit). However, I am not the least proud of it, nor does it bother me. I do it because I think its fun, and I don't let it become my identity, which it appears is what you have done.
You wouldn't be saying that to my CAR-15!
After a tackle in Rugby League, the tackled player stands up and rolls the ball backwards with his foot (this is the "play the ball" -- equivalent to "the snap" in the NFL). The player stood behind the tackled player, who receives the ball and picks it up (and it can be any player on the team) is the "dummy half" (for that play-the-ball).
I understood everything you just said, but imagining that just seems very odd.
Thank you very much!
The most commonly butchered tech-related word. What's that Lie-nucks thing again?
Ah the memories. I had installed linux for a year before I had ever heard anyone actually say the word. Of course, I called it Lie-nucks! Guy thought I was a moron, but I knew more than he did. Just had never actually heard it out loud.
I never thought about it, but we must sound really funny to non-technically inclined people. "Yea, I picked up the Athlon 1800 XP, you know the one point five three three gig, and the dude was selling pc2100 for like 50 a stick of 512 so I figured what the hell, cause Galaxies was running choppy with my old 133 stuff and the 64 meg GeForce two I had."
I don't even understand people when they talk like that.
I'm always amazed because I will talk to someone about computers (like a sales manager) and they will be able to spin off all of this computer jargon I've never heard of. Granted they don't understand how anything actually works on the computer, but they sure can talk the talk.
Not because its complex, but because its jargon from a field in which you're not very proficient
.... Tell me what a dummy half is, I must know... Everything else in this post was just an excuse to ask that.
Exactly, so how is this news?!
You just proved that the general public is confused by any jargon they are unfamiliar with.
Yes people: Even beautiful girls play Wolfenstein!
Would you happen to know where I can procure some of those "beautiful girls"?
We all know daytime is for posting on /. and downloading pr0n and the odd bit of coding. All night should be spent in a dimly it room blowing up computer-generated bad guys
and the afternoon is for 4 hours trying to lan everyone's frickin machine together.
guh!
Was quite proud of the fact that she could go to her sorority's formal, get completely trashed, and STILL kick the asses of the guys in her dorm after she returned at 2 AM.
Drunken gaming was VERY common at school.
Only to prove how good you really were. Getting stoned and playing a mind numbing game like golf with friends, yes.
But not drinking.
yes there are lots of non geeks who play video games. but all the people who i know who are "gamers" do spend their days in dimly lit rooms, not showering, and eating crap all day.
We shower between 8 hour sittings, thank you very much.
I'm not sure if that alone is the problem - to me it's more the people who do this to the exclusion of going out and seeing people (non-gamers!) face-to-face in the real world (and I don't mean at LAN parties).
What is wrong with meeting people at lan parties?!
Or BBS gatherings. Or Chess clubs. or any other perceived geek gathering place?
There is nothing wrong with it. You just dismiss it because it isn't the way that you would meet people.
Science Fiction conventions, and model airplanes, tis the life for I!
It pains me that this is news 2X over on slashdot in 2 days. Although it points out that while not all gamers are geeks, many of them ARE or this wouldnt be news. BTW, I'm both a gamer and a geek and proud of being both.
This is the only news story I want duped on a daily basis.
Also send a copy to several of my ex-girlfriends.
"Hell hath no fury like a woman's scorn for Sega." - Brodie
Quite a few gamers in college are jocks. It's true.
And the only reason we let them play is because we kick their asses.
"Actually a lot of people I know are occasional gamers. They arent obsessed with them and associate with "normal" people... The problem is when you become addicted and sit in front of your computer all day."
Every Lan party I've ever been to, an hour into the gaming, even the normal gamers are addicted.
It is just fun to play a competitive game with friends. Especially when you don't have to run or jump to do so. It's pretend!
Girls also have a realistic chance to be competitive. Stupid starfall.