Open your mind a bit, think outside the box your been programmed to think within. If you look at this on a system-wide scale, it IS slavery or at least some kind of coercion. Not like you can leave the planet or suddenly become a 'master'. You might respond to this as "well, these people worked very hard to get where they are". But, a large majority of the 1% are born into huge inheritances, never having to work to have what they have, any more than the other 99% have had to work to become poor. The only way it is acceptable to have a 1% of a society live by simply milking the efforts of the rest of the 99% is in a slavery model. You can call it capitalism, but that's not capitalism, it parasitism - the absolute dark side of the concept of capitalism. 99% of the 1% contribute NOTHING to society, just take from the others like overgrown playground bullies.
You can look at it on a national or global scale, and I realize this is a bit of a new perspective of an ancient concept. It is hard to see without a second point of reference for comparison. To try to grok the concept of taking your mind out of it's secure mold, think of how the culture of what we call "Western Civilization" views other cultures who practice things like clitorectomies of young girls as absolutely barbaric and disgusting. However, after thinking about that concept, then reverse your viewpoint back on our culture and our extremely popular practice of circumcision of young boys. Illogical genital mutilation. And the funny thing is that we who have been circumcised had it done so early in life that we find our mutilated penises normal, and tend to view an uncircumcised penis as abnormal and somewhat disgusting.
Now that I have tried to set the stage for this, consider the following:
It is exactly slavery, maybe even worse, as you aren't even officially Sold, you are never even told you are a slave, most never even begin to realize a hint of it their entire life - it is what you have accepted as secure and 'normal'. You a born into a situation that is very hard to realize due to the lack of perspective of being able to take a look at the monstrous trap 99% of the people are caught in.
I was not meaning to purely prove a point of wage iniquity, but instead to show how the 1% are the slave drivers. Sure, a lot of us in the computer profession are freer and have more liberties than the the average joe trapped in a factory all his life. But that simply makes us nerds favored slaves, nothing more. My point was not about wages, but instead to point out the obviousness of something so hard to realize due to never seeing our global culturism from outside our culture. If you were born with only one eye, you would never be able to fully grasp the concept of depth perception. In fact you would never even think about it unless a two-eye told you about it. And then you might not believe the amount of extra information to be gleaned from two nearly identical images taken merely 2.5 inches apart. If everyone had slugs for hair, nobody would think it was weird.
I do not think this cheapens the word "slavery", instead it deepens and clarifies the meaning. Please don't tell me the only way you can be a slave is by being bought and sold on the public auction block.
Just wonder what it is that you cannot fully see or even notice. I'm sure I only have the slightest inkling of what I am attempting to describe (Maybe why this is coming out a bit vague)
I will end with this statement, and have faith that you can interpolate how it applies to what I have been trying to descibe: Does a fish complain about humidity?
Isn't it time we figure out a different economic system that is sustainable, and less violent?
Sounds good. Do you have any ideas? We've already tried a variety of methods including feudalism, tribalism, and communism.
If there's a new way, I'll be the first in line. But it'd better work this time...
Capitalism supports slavery.
What capitalistic countries currently use slavery?
That depends on how you define slavery. Most of us live in a form of slavery - how many of us work a job that pays the bills, but that's about it, while the CEO of your company makes more in a year off your labors than you will make in your life? Walmart, McDonalds, Microsoft, any of them.
It's probably easier to explain in a manufacturing analogy: Say you make a widget worth $100. Say you can make 50 of them an hour. You've just generated a gross gain of $5,000 per hour for the company. Say all expenses: Raw materials, the cost of the machinery used to produce the widget, shipping, storage, marketing, advertising, etc costs $90/unit. The company just made $500 for each hour of your work, Why do you only get $10/hour, while your manager gets $25/hour, your departments's director gets $40/hour, your division's VP gets $60/hour, your company's president gets $100/hour, the company itself takes $100 for capital or whatever, while the CEO gets the remaining $165 per hour.
Don't forget that at least the CEO gets $165 per hour for EACH employee building a similar widget. If there are 100 similar employees, thats $16,500 an hour!
Depending on how your company is structured, the president probably gets the $100/hour for each employee. The VP probably gets his flat $60/hour plus some kind of profit-bonus. At this point, the rest in the chain are only getting the flat hourly pay per hour, regardless of how many employees are under them, so that's a lot of 'dark money' that I don't feel like tracking right now, but it probably goes to the top echelon, while you get a measily $10/hour.
Tell me that ain't slavery. Sure, you can quit your job and become a slave for another company, but all in all, you are still an exploited slave, the only difference between this and your classic definition for 'slave' is that you can chose your master, but still not get your fair share - say we base it on what God wants - 10%. That would be $50/hour. Yer fucked.
Sure, there's unions, they'll get ya a bit more money, but you still remain a slave. The only non-slaves are the top 1% that have more money than they would ever be able to spend, and can choose to do whatever they want for the rest of their life at any moment.
> In Windoze it's easy, you click on my computer/properties/version and it tells you.
Exactly how long did it take you to figure that out? I'm sure it wasn't so intuitive that you just knew. First you have to know to right-click, rather than left-click, to get the properties menu. That alone is nothing I would call more intuitive than looking at the login screen (You don't even have to log in...) and about equal with the uname -r as far as intuitiveness.
Open you mind a bit, remember that there was a day that you were just as lost with Windows as you seem to be currently with Linux. You'll learn, it'll get easier.
They may not be able to make it fool-proof, but they can already use it to show proof of fools.
The text login screen displays the kernel version. If you have your machine set to auto-start X, then hit CTRL-ALT-F1 to switch to text mode, look at the screen, then hit CTRL-ALT-F7 to switch back to X.
Yah, but turning off javascript means that a large number of sites will not work (Internet banking, webmail, auto-cursor focusing) All kinds of creature-features that I'm not willing to do without. I run Javascript under Win98, WinNT4, and Win2K with no problems.
Now, if I could just get javascript to work reliably with Netscape 6 or Konqueror under Linux, talk about flaky. I hope changing to Mozilla.8 will help... I am sick of dual-booting and would like to just go for the Linux uptime record instead of rebooting every time I need to do something that I cannot do with Linux browsers...:(
Would be a cool idea. How would you do that? I guess you could take some source for a base telnet server and heavily modify it. Are there better ways than that?
Trade Wars is not just killed or be killed! There is some combat, but it is more about colonization of new planets, building financial resources and space exploration, and forming alliances with other players. Sure, it's got the word "Wars" in it, but remember that it also has "Trade" in the name - it can be loosely descibed as a space-based version of monopoly. Much strategy, planning, and if you're not careful - you might even learn something...
Actually, if it keeps the gameplay of the original, it will not be an FPS, I'm sure that intership combat will be FPS, but combat is only a part of the game. You'll like it, keep an open mind!:)
What was wrong with Renegade? I'm curious what you would call good BBS software? I had a great time with Renegade, till I went ahead and wrote my own, LLABBS. Write me if you want the source, Turbo Pascal 7.0 (Dial-up only, unless you shim it with MurkWorks BBSnet or run it on OS/2 with the telnettable version of the X00 FOSSIL driver)
Something about them is just too cool, even compared to EverCrack^H^H^H^H^HQuest. I think that RPG games are always better to be played non-graphical - let you mind do the imagery, it'll always blow away the graphics of even a 14 gigabyte Voodoo 20 9000:)
I've just started getting back into wasting too much of my time MUDding again. I forgot how much fun I had with them.
I broke down and bought a router for my Cable Modem so can redirect incoming traffic to my Linux box so I could run CircleMUD again. I've just started modding it, but there's already some cool things in place. Just need players now! (And I'm in a generous mood - I've been advancing new players to level 15 when I see them online at the same time I am)
A plug for an old friend that SEVERELY needs more players on his telnetable BBS with TW, Lord, and a whole bunch of (165 - mostly registered!) classic doors:
mmachine.com (telnet - use this to get to the games)
mmachine.com (web - basically just info on how to telnet to the BBS)
Gary Martin, several years ago, announced a new version called Trade Wars 2112 (He must be a Rush fan - the band, not the fat guy) to be released. I never heard anything else... True vaporware (The Internet must have happened or something)
Here's the original announcement:
Quoted off of WWIVnet:
47/50: The Future of Martech Software
Name: Gary Martin #1 @9354
Date: Thu Apr 16 08:59 1992
From: Castle Ravenloft (Topeka, Kansas) [913-842-0300]
Statement of Direction, April 16th, 1992
Martech Software, Inc.
Recently we asked the BBS community if they would be interested in an advanced version of Trade Wars 2002. The response has been overwhelmingly positive! With the exception of a few who expect to get something for nothing, Sysops across the country enthusiastically screamed "YES! YES!" for our advanced Single and Multinode version of Trade Wars 2112.
With this vote of confidence, Martech will be moving ahead on the TW2112 project. We do not have an estimated release schedule at this time.
Some concern was expressed that TW2002 registrants should get a discount on TW2112's cost. We agree. So at this time we are setting forth the following tentative pricing schedule:
Trade Wars 2112 registration (for all versions of TW2112)
For 1 to 4 nodes $35 US
For 5 to 10 nodes $50 US
For 11 to 25 nodes $65 US
For 26+ nodes $80 US
*** Upgrading from a previous registration of TW2002 gives you a ***
*** Fifteen dollar discount on any of the above prices. ***
Trade Wars 2112 Vga Terminal Program $10 US
| Please note this registration is NOT a Sysop's cost, but |
| a user's cost. The TW2112 Term Program will support |
| 640 x 480 256 color mode and sound cards. It will offer |
| many of the features, integrated into it, of the current |
| mapping and database analysis programs. This will be a |
| complete TW2112 environment for your Users! It will |
| even function as a standalone Term package so Traders |
| can set it to dial their favorite TWs games... |
For those that are curious about the multi-node costs of TW2112, we plan on supporting both Multi-process setups (Desqview, Windows OS/2) and Multinode setups (Lantastic, Novell lans. Std file sharing using Share.exe for record and file locking.) The multinode prices reflect the amount of INTERACTIVE PLAY that will be incorporated into TW2112. Users will be able to combat each other realtime, join in mutual assaults on enemies (fleet warfare!), communicate with all active nodes (through Ship Messages) and sit down in the Tavern for a chat... TW2112 will be a new step forward in user interaction for the multinode environment.
Well there you have it. This is the direction Martech is moving to. This summer we will put out a Maintenance release of Trade Wars 2002 first, to cover all known bugs, and add a few new angles to the game. Once thats out work will begin fulltime on TW2112. Sysops who have registered TW2002 will be given FIRST CHOICE when it comes to putting out TW2112. They will have
it on their system long before anyone else does. We're doing this to show our appreciation for those who have registered the game and helped to
support Martech Software.
For future reference, we will require Sysops to mail in their TW2002 registration letter or card to be eligible for the discount on TW2112. Make
sure you have yours in a safe place! Resends on lost letters will be available for our regular processing fee of $3 if you've lost it. To request a resend, fill out all pertinent info about yourself and your BBS and the
approximate date of when you registered and mail that to us along with the $3 processing fee. Then HANG ON to your registration letter!
TW2112 is going to blow you away.
Martech Software, Inc.
134 Indian Avenue
Lawrence,Kansas
66046
Even if they DO make open source against the law, how the fuck do they expect to enforce such a law? Napster had a central point of weakness - their centralized directory servers.
What can they do? Throw Linus in jail? Someone else will take over kernel development, or it will splinter a bit, but chaos tends to form order, so after a bit of kernel anarchy, it'll all start flowing together again.
What can they do? Start busting into the houses of millions of people with evil source code in their houses?
What can they do? Prohibition didn't work. The drug war is a complete failure. Fighting open source via the legal system is a completely hopeless concept. Just like the current potency of street drugs is many times stronger than it was at the beginning of this foolish drug war, hopefully all this will mean is better quality open source software!
Like Michael Douglas said in the new movie Traffic: "If we are declaring war on drugs, then we are declaring war on members of our own families. And I don't know how to declare war on a loved one"
If we declare war on open source, then we are declaring war on some of our best friends and greatest minds.
When Bill Gates's kids get older, you can KNOW that they'll do some experimentation with illicit open source. You fuckin know it!:)
Yes, WTF is with all of these unchecked lying fuckers these days? Only thing I can think of is we are seeing the beginning of the fall of this wave of civilization. It comes in waves: The Mesopotamians, the Greek Empire, the Roman Empire, and now the American/Capitalist/Evil Empire begins to fall. I'd say we've got 50 to 100 years until we hit the next sinkhole of chaos between waves. People get greedy, stupid, out-of-touch, with no thought for the future, until the whole thing falls apart and crashes to the ground.
In the long long run, this is a very good thing. Just sucks to live in the dark times.
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Imagine the commercials - Mickey smoking a 'boro and drinking a Bud saying "Whazzup" to the fish in the river.
What I think is weird is the fact that everyone is freaking out about the dotcom shakeout. Everyone goes around like the sky is falling. Altogether it has only been about 200 dotcom companies that have failed. Nearly all of them had rather lame business plans. Selling hair gel for cats, and things that had no value.
Most of the dotcoms are STILL here. Just the flaky ones are gone.
"Read as an english word linux is pronounced lie nucks. Read as a finnish word linux is pronounced lee nucks. Saying lynn (like the name) ucks is blatantly wrong. But, pronounciation of a word from another language is up to the speaker, and most people who speak english can't pronounce anything at all. So, although about 63% of the posters are wrong, it's up to them what they say."
Probably the best thing to do is to realize it's a microcultural thing. People in one company will call it LyeNicks, while the company across the street the people call it Linnukz.
Instead of dorkboy saying "I cannot have a serious conversation with someone that calls it LyeNicks", he should show himself as properly educated to the fact that people pronounce it differently depending on something obscure like the phase of the moon when they first heard about Linux.
That's how I've pronounced it for the last 6 years. I find it difficult to have a conversation with these newbies who insist on calling it LIN-ix.
Linux means LINus's UniX. In his original tongue, Linus pronounces it like Lee-nukes. Properly 'americanized', it is LYE-NIX/Line-ix.
There's a lot of Linux newbies out there that think that the correct pronounciation IS LINN-IX. Incorrect: Lennox makes air conditioners and refridgerators.
Funny that this guy is so confused that he is mistakenly informing people to pronounce it the WRONG way.:)
What the hell, that's completely against the 30 year spirit of the Internet - It's always been a work together for the common good, not stealing the work of others.
Nobody should be paying anybody for the rights to implement similar services on the Internet. What if Tim Berners-Lee started demanding money for using his invention - The web itself. What if Vinton Cerf started charging money for using all the things he invented - TCP/IP, etc?
We are the ones who built this world, these companies are here only by our leave, and they should certainly obey the traditions of our world or get back out of it. The rule of the Internet has always been "If you get something, give something else back". These CGMI type companies are just thinking they can rape and pillage with no thought of the long term effects.
I saw the site, it's pretty cool, but not even close to detailed enough to make it seem real. The landmasses seem too random, and the graphics really pixellated, but probably pretty good for when it was made. I'd like to see it rendered again with modern software/hardware!
I'd do it, but have no idea where to start, being a telecommunication programmer rather than a graphics programmer.
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You can look at it on a national or global scale, and I realize this is a bit of a new perspective of an ancient concept. It is hard to see without a second point of reference for comparison. To try to grok the concept of taking your mind out of it's secure mold, think of how the culture of what we call "Western Civilization" views other cultures who practice things like clitorectomies of young girls as absolutely barbaric and disgusting. However, after thinking about that concept, then reverse your viewpoint back on our culture and our extremely popular practice of circumcision of young boys. Illogical genital mutilation. And the funny thing is that we who have been circumcised had it done so early in life that we find our mutilated penises normal, and tend to view an uncircumcised penis as abnormal and somewhat disgusting.
Now that I have tried to set the stage for this, consider the following:
It is exactly slavery, maybe even worse, as you aren't even officially Sold, you are never even told you are a slave, most never even begin to realize a hint of it their entire life - it is what you have accepted as secure and 'normal'. You a born into a situation that is very hard to realize due to the lack of perspective of being able to take a look at the monstrous trap 99% of the people are caught in.
I was not meaning to purely prove a point of wage iniquity, but instead to show how the 1% are the slave drivers. Sure, a lot of us in the computer profession are freer and have more liberties than the the average joe trapped in a factory all his life. But that simply makes us nerds favored slaves, nothing more. My point was not about wages, but instead to point out the obviousness of something so hard to realize due to never seeing our global culturism from outside our culture. If you were born with only one eye, you would never be able to fully grasp the concept of depth perception. In fact you would never even think about it unless a two-eye told you about it. And then you might not believe the amount of extra information to be gleaned from two nearly identical images taken merely 2.5 inches apart. If everyone had slugs for hair, nobody would think it was weird.
I do not think this cheapens the word "slavery", instead it deepens and clarifies the meaning. Please don't tell me the only way you can be a slave is by being bought and sold on the public auction block.
Just wonder what it is that you cannot fully see or even notice. I'm sure I only have the slightest inkling of what I am attempting to describe (Maybe why this is coming out a bit vague)
I will end with this statement, and have faith that you can interpolate how it applies to what I have been trying to descibe: Does a fish complain about humidity?
Sounds good. Do you have any ideas? We've already tried a variety of methods including feudalism, tribalism, and communism.
If there's a new way, I'll be the first in line. But it'd better work this time...
Capitalism supports slavery.
What capitalistic countries currently use slavery?
That depends on how you define slavery. Most of us live in a form of slavery - how many of us work a job that pays the bills, but that's about it, while the CEO of your company makes more in a year off your labors than you will make in your life? Walmart, McDonalds, Microsoft, any of them.
It's probably easier to explain in a manufacturing analogy: Say you make a widget worth $100. Say you can make 50 of them an hour. You've just generated a gross gain of $5,000 per hour for the company. Say all expenses: Raw materials, the cost of the machinery used to produce the widget, shipping, storage, marketing, advertising, etc costs $90/unit. The company just made $500 for each hour of your work, Why do you only get $10/hour, while your manager gets $25/hour, your departments's director gets $40/hour, your division's VP gets $60/hour, your company's president gets $100/hour, the company itself takes $100 for capital or whatever, while the CEO gets the remaining $165 per hour.
Don't forget that at least the CEO gets $165 per hour for EACH employee building a similar widget. If there are 100 similar employees, thats $16,500 an hour!
Depending on how your company is structured, the president probably gets the $100/hour for each employee. The VP probably gets his flat $60/hour plus some kind of profit-bonus. At this point, the rest in the chain are only getting the flat hourly pay per hour, regardless of how many employees are under them, so that's a lot of 'dark money' that I don't feel like tracking right now, but it probably goes to the top echelon, while you get a measily $10/hour.
Tell me that ain't slavery. Sure, you can quit your job and become a slave for another company, but all in all, you are still an exploited slave, the only difference between this and your classic definition for 'slave' is that you can chose your master, but still not get your fair share - say we base it on what God wants - 10%. That would be $50/hour. Yer fucked.
Sure, there's unions, they'll get ya a bit more money, but you still remain a slave. The only non-slaves are the top 1% that have more money than they would ever be able to spend, and can choose to do whatever they want for the rest of their life at any moment.
Exactly how long did it take you to figure that out? I'm sure it wasn't so intuitive that you just knew. First you have to know to right-click, rather than left-click, to get the properties menu. That alone is nothing I would call more intuitive than looking at the login screen (You don't even have to log in...) and about equal with the uname -r as far as intuitiveness.
Open you mind a bit, remember that there was a day that you were just as lost with Windows as you seem to be currently with Linux. You'll learn, it'll get easier.
They may not be able to make it fool-proof, but they can already use it to show proof of fools.
The text login screen displays the kernel version. If you have your machine set to auto-start X, then hit CTRL-ALT-F1 to switch to text mode, look at the screen, then hit CTRL-ALT-F7 to switch back to X.
Yah, but turning off javascript means that a large number of sites will not work (Internet banking, webmail, auto-cursor focusing) All kinds of creature-features that I'm not willing to do without. I run Javascript under Win98, WinNT4, and Win2K with no problems. Now, if I could just get javascript to work reliably with Netscape 6 or Konqueror under Linux, talk about flaky. I hope changing to Mozilla .8 will help... I am sick of dual-booting and would like to just go for the Linux uptime record instead of rebooting every time I need to do something that I cannot do with Linux browsers... :(
Would be a cool idea. How would you do that? I guess you could take some source for a base telnet server and heavily modify it. Are there better ways than that?
That is for Trade Wars Gold/Game Server, not for Dark Millenium :(
Trade Wars is not just killed or be killed! There is some combat, but it is more about colonization of new planets, building financial resources and space exploration, and forming alliances with other players. Sure, it's got the word "Wars" in it, but remember that it also has "Trade" in the name - it can be loosely descibed as a space-based version of monopoly. Much strategy, planning, and if you're not careful - you might even learn something...
Actually, if it keeps the gameplay of the original, it will not be an FPS, I'm sure that intership combat will be FPS, but combat is only a part of the game. You'll like it, keep an open mind! :)
What was wrong with Renegade? I'm curious what you would call good BBS software? I had a great time with Renegade, till I went ahead and wrote my own, LLABBS. Write me if you want the source, Turbo Pascal 7.0 (Dial-up only, unless you shim it with MurkWorks BBSnet or run it on OS/2 with the telnettable version of the X00 FOSSIL driver)
I've just started getting back into wasting too much of my time MUDding again. I forgot how much fun I had with them.
I broke down and bought a router for my Cable Modem so can redirect incoming traffic to my Linux box so I could run CircleMUD again. I've just started modding it, but there's already some cool things in place. Just need players now! (And I'm in a generous mood - I've been advancing new players to level 15 when I see them online at the same time I am)
telnet to ooze.bloomnet.com port 4000 to check it out.
Or use the Java telnet applet here
mmachine.com (telnet - use this to get to the games)
mmachine.com (web - basically just info on how to telnet to the BBS)
Here's the original announcement:
Quoted off of WWIVnet:
47/50: The Future of Martech Software
Name: Gary Martin #1 @9354
Date: Thu Apr 16 08:59 1992
From: Castle Ravenloft (Topeka, Kansas) [913-842-0300]
Statement of Direction, April 16th, 1992
Martech Software, Inc.
Recently we asked the BBS community if they would be interested in an advanced version of Trade Wars 2002. The response has been overwhelmingly positive! With the exception of a few who expect to get something for nothing, Sysops across the country enthusiastically screamed "YES! YES!" for our advanced Single and Multinode version of Trade Wars 2112.
With this vote of confidence, Martech will be moving ahead on the TW2112 project. We do not have an estimated release schedule at this time.
Some concern was expressed that TW2002 registrants should get a discount on TW2112's cost. We agree. So at this time we are setting forth the following tentative pricing schedule:
Trade Wars 2112 registration (for all versions of TW2112)
For 1 to 4 nodes $35 US
For 5 to 10 nodes $50 US
For 11 to 25 nodes $65 US
For 26+ nodes $80 US
*** Upgrading from a previous registration of TW2002 gives you a ***
*** Fifteen dollar discount on any of the above prices. ***
Trade Wars 2112 Vga Terminal Program $10 US
| Please note this registration is NOT a Sysop's cost, but |
| a user's cost. The TW2112 Term Program will support |
| 640 x 480 256 color mode and sound cards. It will offer |
| many of the features, integrated into it, of the current |
| mapping and database analysis programs. This will be a |
| complete TW2112 environment for your Users! It will |
| even function as a standalone Term package so Traders |
| can set it to dial their favorite TWs games... |
For those that are curious about the multi-node costs of TW2112, we plan on supporting both Multi-process setups (Desqview, Windows OS/2) and Multinode setups (Lantastic, Novell lans. Std file sharing using Share.exe for record and file locking.) The multinode prices reflect the amount of INTERACTIVE PLAY that will be incorporated into TW2112. Users will be able to combat each other realtime, join in mutual assaults on enemies (fleet warfare!), communicate with all active nodes (through Ship Messages) and sit down in the Tavern for a chat... TW2112 will be a new step forward in user interaction for the multinode environment.
Well there you have it. This is the direction Martech is moving to. This summer we will put out a Maintenance release of Trade Wars 2002 first, to cover all known bugs, and add a few new angles to the game. Once thats out work will begin fulltime on TW2112. Sysops who have registered TW2002 will be given FIRST CHOICE when it comes to putting out TW2112. They will have it on their system long before anyone else does. We're doing this to show our appreciation for those who have registered the game and helped to support Martech Software.
For future reference, we will require Sysops to mail in their TW2002 registration letter or card to be eligible for the discount on TW2112. Make sure you have yours in a safe place! Resends on lost letters will be available for our regular processing fee of $3 if you've lost it. To request a resend, fill out all pertinent info about yourself and your BBS and the approximate date of when you registered and mail that to us along with the $3 processing fee. Then HANG ON to your registration letter!
TW2112 is going to blow you away.
Martech Software, Inc.
134 Indian Avenue
Lawrence,Kansas
66046
My .sig says it all... :)
What can they do? Throw Linus in jail? Someone else will take over kernel development, or it will splinter a bit, but chaos tends to form order, so after a bit of kernel anarchy, it'll all start flowing together again.
What can they do? Start busting into the houses of millions of people with evil source code in their houses?
What can they do? Prohibition didn't work. The drug war is a complete failure. Fighting open source via the legal system is a completely hopeless concept. Just like the current potency of street drugs is many times stronger than it was at the beginning of this foolish drug war, hopefully all this will mean is better quality open source software!
Like Michael Douglas said in the new movie Traffic: "If we are declaring war on drugs, then we are declaring war on members of our own families. And I don't know how to declare war on a loved one"
If we declare war on open source, then we are declaring war on some of our best friends and greatest minds.
When Bill Gates's kids get older, you can KNOW that they'll do some experimentation with illicit open source. You fuckin know it! :)
And that's the 500 billion dollar question...
If there's a new way
I'll be the first in line
But it better work this time
What dya mean I couldn't be the president
Of the United States of America?
It's still WE...
The PEOPLE...
Right?
(Peace Sells... But Who's Buying?)
Sorry, had to say it :)
Yes, WTF is with all of these unchecked lying fuckers these days? Only thing I can think of is we are seeing the beginning of the fall of this wave of civilization. It comes in waves: The Mesopotamians, the Greek Empire, the Roman Empire, and now the American/Capitalist/Evil Empire begins to fall. I'd say we've got 50 to 100 years until we hit the next sinkhole of chaos between waves. People get greedy, stupid, out-of-touch, with no thought for the future, until the whole thing falls apart and crashes to the ground.
In the long long run, this is a very good thing. Just sucks to live in the dark times.
Hopefully we get to see this some day! :)
Most of the dotcoms are STILL here. Just the flaky ones are gone.
"Read as an english word linux is pronounced lie nucks. Read as a finnish word linux is pronounced lee nucks. Saying lynn (like the name) ucks is blatantly wrong. But, pronounciation of a word from another language is up to the speaker, and most people who speak english can't pronounce anything at all. So, although about 63% of the posters are wrong, it's up to them what they say."
Probably the best thing to do is to realize it's a microcultural thing. People in one company will call it LyeNicks, while the company across the street the people call it Linnukz.
Instead of dorkboy saying "I cannot have a serious conversation with someone that calls it LyeNicks", he should show himself as properly educated to the fact that people pronounce it differently depending on something obscure like the phase of the moon when they first heard about Linux.
Linux means LINus's UniX. In his original tongue, Linus pronounces it like Lee-nukes. Properly 'americanized', it is LYE-NIX/Line-ix.
There's a lot of Linux newbies out there that think that the correct pronounciation IS LINN-IX. Incorrect: Lennox makes air conditioners and refridgerators.
Funny that this guy is so confused that he is mistakenly informing people to pronounce it the WRONG way. :)
Nobody should be paying anybody for the rights to implement similar services on the Internet. What if Tim Berners-Lee started demanding money for using his invention - The web itself. What if Vinton Cerf started charging money for using all the things he invented - TCP/IP, etc?
We are the ones who built this world, these companies are here only by our leave, and they should certainly obey the traditions of our world or get back out of it. The rule of the Internet has always been "If you get something, give something else back". These CGMI type companies are just thinking they can rape and pillage with no thought of the long term effects.
I just added them to my robots.txt. Fuckheads.
I never thought of it being done that way - cool! :)
I'd do it, but have no idea where to start, being a telecommunication programmer rather than a graphics programmer.