So what do you do you participate in the orange market while being aware that you may lose some of the apple market but all in all you still have more money coming in.
Sure. I expect eventually the music industry will become a loss-leader for the electronics and communications industries. The companies will break even or even take a loss on producing the music in order to sell the bandwidth and the devieces to play it on.
That isn't really a surprise. The original recording companies in the early 20th century were the manufacturers of phonographs, such as Edison, Victor and Columbia. They originaly went into the recording business to create the demand for their primary products. Only later did independent recording companies begin producing music as their primary product.
Of course, under that arrangement the artists themselves didn't get rich selling phonograph records. Originally they'd only get paid for the performance which was recorded, they didn't get royalties from record sales. They still earned most of their money from live performances. In fact, Edison was so cheap that when he introduced Diamond Disks in 1912, he would make the masters for his cylinder records, which were still popular, from the masters for the Diamond Disks. That way he'd only have to pay the artist for one performance, and unfortunately the quality of cylinder records suffered from the result of this technique.
I think you're going to see a return to an arrangement like that. Artists will mostly issue recordings to get publicity, and the equipment/bandwidth providers will subsidize the cost of recording to push their primary products. But it won't be a primary product for either the artist or the recording companies. The windfall profits on recordings, which were mostly a byproduct of 20th century recording technologies, are pretty much over.
They are in recession not because their overall plan is flawed
Yes, they are. Growth slowed in the 1990's due to overinvestment in the 1980's and recovery is being hampered by their protectionist trade policies, and contractionary domestic policies intended to wring speculative excesses from the stock and real estate markets.
they are in recession for the same reason we are in recession.
A recession is a decline in the GDP for 2 consecutive quarters. We are not in a recession. We are experiencing a temporary decline in investment as an effect of capitol overhang.
I'm not the original fool, but the standard of living in Japan is infinitely higher than any African country.
The standard of living is not the economy. The United States ($36,300 GDP per capita in 2001) has a much more robust economy than Sweden ($24,700 GDP per capita in 2001), however Sweden has a higher average standard of living than the US.
Japan's economy has been stagnant for almost a decade. If Africa's economy remains stagnant for a decade, how are they better off than they are now?
Um, I don't think so...
From the 2002 CIA factbook:
Economy - overview:
Hong Kong has a bustling free market economy highly dependent on international trade. Natural resources are limited, and food and raw materials must be imported. Indeed, imports and exports, including reexports, each exceed GDP in dollar value. Even before Hong Kong reverted to Chinese administration on 1 July 1997 it had extensive trade and investment ties with China. Per capita GDP compares with the level in the four big economies of Western Europe. GDP growth averaged a strong 5% in 1989-97. The widespread Asian economic difficulties in 1998 hit this trade-dependent economy quite hard, with GDP down 5%. The economy, with growth of 10% in 2000, recovered rapidly from the Asian financial crisis. The recent global downturn has badly hurt Hong Kong's exports and GDP growth is estimated to be 0% in 2001. Private sector analysts project 2002 GDP growth to be 1.8%.
Taiwan has nothing to do with any of this but China is beating Taiwan.
Militarily, yes. Economicly? You must be joking.
East and West Germany had nothing on the Soviet Union.
I think they'd be surprised to hear that! You ever heard of the Berlin Wall?
The outlook wasn't brilliant for the student march that night;
The quads were filled with rent-a-cops and not a picket sign in sight;
With Cooney busted for possestion, and Barrows, the riot laws;
A sickly silence fell upon the supporters of The Cause.
A straggling few got up to go, in deep despair. The rest
Clung to that hope which "springs eternal in the human breast;"
They thought, If only HanzoSan could be rallying that mob,
We'd put up even money now, with HanzoSan at the quads.
But Flynn preceded HanzoSan, as did also Jimmy Blake,
And the former was a no-good and the latter was a fake;
Forlorn, that stricken multitude discouraged by the odds,
For there seemed but little chance of HanzoSan's getting to the quads.
But Flynn let fly a bottle, to the wonderment of all,
And Blake, the much despised, set a bomb off in the hall,
And when the dust had lifted and men saw what had occurred,
Jimmy beaned the Dean of Students, while the bombed out library burned.
Then from five thousand throats and more there rose a lusty yell,
It rumbled through the valley, it rattled in the dell,
A Harley roared up from the street, and was tearing up the sod,
And Hanzo, HanzoSan, was advancing through the quads.
There was ease in Hanzo's manner as he wheeled into his place;
There was pride in Hanzo's bearing and a smile on Hanzo's face,
And when, responding to the cheers, he lightly gave a nod,
No stranger in the crowd could doubt `twas HanzoSan at the quads.
Ten thousand eyes were on him as he gunned the throttle loud;
Five thousand tongues applauded as he signaled to the crowd.
And while the nervous officers grabbed the night sticks from their hips,
Defiance gleamed in Hanzo's eye, a sneer curled Hanzo's lip.
And now a can of tear gas came hurtling through the air,
And HanzoSan stood a-watching it in haughty grandeur there,
Close by the haughty HanzoSan, the can unheeded sped --
"That ain't my style," said HanzoSan. "Break it up!" the coppers said.
From the streets, black with people, there went up a muffled roar,
Like the beating of the storm waves on a stern and distant shore.
"Kill them; kill the pigs!" shouted someone from the mob;--
And HanzoSan guns his engine, and wipes-out on the lawn.
With a fist of protest shaking, HanzoSan's visage shone;
He jumped back on his Harley; he bade the march go on;
The Harley takes off through the quads, 'till it hits a vicious bump;
And HanzoSan sails through the air, landing smack upon his rump.
"Fascists!" he screeched, "Capitalist, Imperialist, Racist, Sexist pigs!"
"If I must I'll ride a tricycle, but we'll have this march - you dig?"
They saw his face grow stern and cold; they saw his muscles strain,
And they knew that HanzoSan wouldn't lose that bike again!
The sneer is gone from Hanzo's lip; his teeth are clenched in hate;
He sniffs with cruel derision as he lets go of the brake.
And now he throws it into first, the clutch he now he lets go,
And now the air is shattered as the bike takes off - alone.
Oh! somewhere there's a campus town where they drum and chant all night.
They protest for the rain forest, and demand the wart-hog's rights.
And somewhere bongs are being passed, and somewhere radicals shout;
But there is no joy at Old State U -- HanzoSan has Wiped Out!
Bullys, Jocks, Cliques, etc, sure you learn about the social structure and it only harms you in the long run when you learn how cruel and how ignorant people actually are.
I take it you weren't any more popular at school than you are on/.
ADD in school is just a petty excuse teachers make for students who rebel, they dont just want to admit that they suck as teachers, their classes are boring as hell and their students arent learning.
So HanzoSan, you still on the Ritalin?
In a class where a kid is not learning a damn thing or a class thats boring as h ell, suddenly the symptoms of ADD appear.
Excuses, excuses. Blame it on the schools already. C'mon, HanzoSan! The first step in solving your problem is admiting you have one!
I think if a kid really does have ADD the best way to deal with it is to let them use the computer, and let them learn in their own way.
So tell us - how does a kid "really have" a disorder you've already said doesn't exist?
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+5, Insightful!
So what do you do you participate in the orange market while being aware that you may lose some of the apple market but all in all you still have more money coming in.
Sure. I expect eventually the music industry will become a loss-leader for the electronics and communications industries. The companies will break even or even take a loss on producing the music in order to sell the bandwidth and the devieces to play it on.
That isn't really a surprise. The original recording companies in the early 20th century were the manufacturers of phonographs, such as Edison, Victor and Columbia. They originaly went into the recording business to create the demand for their primary products. Only later did independent recording companies begin producing music as their primary product.
Of course, under that arrangement the artists themselves didn't get rich selling phonograph records. Originally they'd only get paid for the performance which was recorded, they didn't get royalties from record sales. They still earned most of their money from live performances. In fact, Edison was so cheap that when he introduced Diamond Disks in 1912, he would make the masters for his cylinder records, which were still popular, from the masters for the Diamond Disks. That way he'd only have to pay the artist for one performance, and unfortunately the quality of cylinder records suffered from the result of this technique.
I think you're going to see a return to an arrangement like that. Artists will mostly issue recordings to get publicity, and the equipment/bandwidth providers will subsidize the cost of recording to push their primary products. But it won't be a primary product for either the artist or the recording companies. The windfall profits on recordings, which were mostly a byproduct of 20th century recording technologies, are pretty much over.
They are in recession not because their overall plan is flawed
Yes, they are. Growth slowed in the 1990's due to overinvestment in the 1980's and recovery is being hampered by their protectionist trade policies, and contractionary domestic policies intended to wring speculative excesses from the stock and real estate markets.
they are in recession for the same reason we are in recession.
A recession is a decline in the GDP for 2 consecutive quarters. We are not in a recession. We are experiencing a temporary decline in investment as an effect of capitol overhang.
I'm not the original fool, but the standard of living in Japan is infinitely higher than any African country.
The standard of living is not the economy. The United States ($36,300 GDP per capita in 2001) has a much more robust economy than Sweden ($24,700 GDP per capita in 2001), however Sweden has a higher average standard of living than the US.
Japan's economy has been stagnant for almost a decade. If Africa's economy remains stagnant for a decade, how are they better off than they are now?
Anti-Hanzosan, I'm intrigued by your ideas, can I sign up for your newsletter?
Certainly! Just get on my friends list! Or on HanzoSan's foes list. Or both!
Um, I don't think so...
From the 2002 CIA factbook:
Taiwan has nothing to do with any of this but China is beating Taiwan.
Militarily, yes. Economicly? You must be joking.
East and West Germany had nothing on the Soviet Union.
I think they'd be surprised to hear that! You ever heard of the Berlin Wall?
Communism is bad, but no country has successfully been built on Capitalism.
Oh? You tell me, which ones are in better shape...
East Germany or West Germany?
North Korea or South Korea?
Taiwan and Hong Kong or mainland China?
You must be trolling. Nobody could really be that dumb!
...and I have bad news.
...the Governor of Illinois pardoned all the felons on Death Row.
...HanzoSan has disappeared!
First the bad news...
Now the good news...
Robotics, AI, and alot of computer devices they create could be exported giving them a similar economy to that of Japan.
The economy of Japan has been in recession for over a decade, you stupid fool!
Why does Africa want and economy like that?!
Give it up, HanzoSan! No matter how much ass kissing you do, you still aren't going to get laid!
Im male and im not good at math, whats your point
You're not very good at spelling and logic, either. Are you sure you know how to code?
With apologies to Ernest Lawrence Thayer
The outlook wasn't brilliant for the student march that night;
The quads were filled with rent-a-cops and not a picket sign in sight;
With Cooney busted for possestion, and Barrows, the riot laws;
A sickly silence fell upon the supporters of The Cause.
A straggling few got up to go, in deep despair. The rest
Clung to that hope which "springs eternal in the human breast;"
They thought, If only HanzoSan could be rallying that mob,
We'd put up even money now, with HanzoSan at the quads.
But Flynn preceded HanzoSan, as did also Jimmy Blake,
And the former was a no-good and the latter was a fake;
Forlorn, that stricken multitude discouraged by the odds,
For there seemed but little chance of HanzoSan's getting to the quads.
But Flynn let fly a bottle, to the wonderment of all,
And Blake, the much despised, set a bomb off in the hall,
And when the dust had lifted and men saw what had occurred,
Jimmy beaned the Dean of Students, while the bombed out library burned.
Then from five thousand throats and more there rose a lusty yell,
It rumbled through the valley, it rattled in the dell,
A Harley roared up from the street, and was tearing up the sod,
And Hanzo, HanzoSan, was advancing through the quads.
There was ease in Hanzo's manner as he wheeled into his place;
There was pride in Hanzo's bearing and a smile on Hanzo's face,
And when, responding to the cheers, he lightly gave a nod,
No stranger in the crowd could doubt `twas HanzoSan at the quads.
Ten thousand eyes were on him as he gunned the throttle loud;
Five thousand tongues applauded as he signaled to the crowd.
And while the nervous officers grabbed the night sticks from their hips,
Defiance gleamed in Hanzo's eye, a sneer curled Hanzo's lip.
And now a can of tear gas came hurtling through the air,
And HanzoSan stood a-watching it in haughty grandeur there,
Close by the haughty HanzoSan, the can unheeded sped --
"That ain't my style," said HanzoSan. "Break it up!" the coppers said.
From the streets, black with people, there went up a muffled roar,
Like the beating of the storm waves on a stern and distant shore.
"Kill them; kill the pigs!" shouted someone from the mob;--
And HanzoSan guns his engine, and wipes-out on the lawn.
With a fist of protest shaking, HanzoSan's visage shone;
He jumped back on his Harley; he bade the march go on;
The Harley takes off through the quads, 'till it hits a vicious bump;
And HanzoSan sails through the air, landing smack upon his rump.
"Fascists!" he screeched, "Capitalist, Imperialist, Racist, Sexist pigs!"
"If I must I'll ride a tricycle, but we'll have this march - you dig?"
They saw his face grow stern and cold; they saw his muscles strain,
And they knew that HanzoSan wouldn't lose that bike again!
The sneer is gone from Hanzo's lip; his teeth are clenched in hate;
He sniffs with cruel derision as he lets go of the brake.
And now he throws it into first, the clutch he now he lets go,
And now the air is shattered as the bike takes off - alone.
Oh! somewhere there's a campus town where they drum and chant all night.
They protest for the rain forest, and demand the wart-hog's rights.
And somewhere bongs are being passed, and somewhere radicals shout;
But there is no joy at Old State U -- HanzoSan has Wiped Out!
Bullys, Jocks, Cliques, etc, sure you learn about the social structure and it only harms you in the long run when you learn how cruel and how ignorant people actually are.
/.
I take it you weren't any more popular at school than you are on
Gee, I wonder why?
You cant teach someone something by reptition if they never learn the concepts it becomes gibberish in the end.
You can make someone do something a million times and i they never know why they are doing it they wont remember it.
So tell us, did you come to this conclusion as a result of your potty training, or what?
Hello, pot? Kettle on line 2!
ADD in school is just a petty excuse teachers make for students who rebel, they dont just want to admit that they suck as teachers, their classes are boring as hell and their students arent learning.
So HanzoSan, you still on the Ritalin?
In a class where a kid is not learning a damn thing or a class thats boring as h ell, suddenly the symptoms of ADD appear.
Excuses, excuses. Blame it on the schools already. C'mon, HanzoSan! The first step in solving your problem is admiting you have one!
I think if a kid really does have ADD the best way to deal with it is to let them use the computer, and let them learn in their own way.
So tell us - how does a kid "really have" a disorder you've already said doesn't exist?
Great? I programmed in logo and that was totally useless.
Which probably says more about the skills of the programmer than the value of the language.
Logo for third grade? How old were you? 10? I'd teach someone at that age Basic not Logo. In Middle School I'd move on to Visual Basic and or C.
And you're still using VB. When are you gonna move on? How old did you say you were?
I don't know if "primitive" is exactly the right word for you. "Simple" would probably be closer to the truth.
Your mission, should you decide to accept it, is to find all comments posted by HanzoSan, AND MODERATE THEM DOWN TO THE SEVENTH CIRCLE OF HELL!