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  1. Re:The fallacy of the three laws on How Should the Law Think About Robots? · · Score: 2

    Very true. But rather redundant to my point, don't you think?

    I believe I read somewhere your exact point- oh yeah, it was the commentary in the book "The Early Asimov Volume 1"- a writing textbook by the author pointing out that his real purpose in inventing the three laws was to make them vague enough to have easy short stories to sell to magazines.

  2. Re:Exaxctly. on How Should the Law Think About Robots? · · Score: 1

    Cmdr Data, probably not.

    C3PO, Honda is producing robots better than him already.

  3. Re:A race of slaves on How Should the Law Think About Robots? · · Score: 0

    I know because I have actually bothered to train dogs. And there is no such thing in computer science as a random number.

  4. Re:Perhaps ours are too on How Should the Law Think About Robots? · · Score: 1

    Boredom proves that human brains are not deterministic. Quantum Fluctuations may be the cause; but anybody who has thought about this problem deeply, or has worked with small children, knows that the human brain is not deterministic.

    Silicon can't mimic the firmware in an equal number of neurons to transistors- yet. Maybe someday when we find a truly random input instead of merely a pseudo random input, but not yet.

  5. Re:A race of slaves on How Should the Law Think About Robots? · · Score: 1

    If you give the *same* human brain the *same* inputs 100 times in a row, it will make the same decision only 70 out of the 100 times and come up with something completely different the other 30 out of sheer boredom.

    That proves that the human brain isn't deterministic, and anybody who claims it to be so needs to have their work checked for bias.

  6. Re:The fallacy of the three laws on How Should the Law Think About Robots? · · Score: 2

    In fact, I believe I read one of his writing textbooks where he said he PURPOSEFULLY made the laws vague enough to fit stories into.

  7. Re:Positrons on How Should the Law Think About Robots? · · Score: 1

    In the day he was writing, radiation hazard was practically unknown, even among scientists and even after Madame Curie died of it.

  8. Re:A race of slaves on How Should the Law Think About Robots? · · Score: 1

    The fact that you can make different choices with the same input proves that the human brain is not deterministic. Some religions call this a soul.

    AI has been a hobby of mine for 20 years. I have grave doubts that we will *EVER* make a robot so sophisticated that it can ignore it's programming. Learn, yes. Self-modify the programming, within certain parameters, that's been done too. Duplicate a decision tree to the point of being able to make the right choice more deterministically than any expert, yes. Play chess, yes.

    But fall in love, get married to an abusive spouse, and need a divorce? No, not within the next thousand years.

  9. Re:A race of slaves on How Should the Law Think About Robots? · · Score: 2, Insightful

    We won't even be able to create a race of slaves for a while. The "brains" are 100% deterministic, which means that there is a great gap between the smartest robot and the dumbest dog.

  10. The fallacy of the three laws on How Should the Law Think About Robots? · · Score: 3, Insightful

    And that is the fallacy of the three laws as written by Asimov- he was a biophysicist, not a binary mathematician.

    The three laws are too vague. They really are guidelines for designers, not something that can be built into the firmware of a current robot. Even a net connected one, would need far too much processing time to make the kinds of split second decisions about human anatomy and the world around them to fulfill the three laws.

  11. Re:Efficiency on Why US Mileage Ratings Are So Inaccurate · · Score: 1

    I have owned a prius for just over a month, and I know EXACTLY what you are talking about.

    Specifically though 35 MPH, floor it and use the cruise control. On that rule alone, on a long highway trip this weekend, my Prius hypermiling High Score was 56.4 MPG (admittedly an older 2006 Prius II).

  12. Re:Well... on How To Promote Stage Comedy In a Geeky Way? · · Score: 2

    Because what the world really needs, is less civilization.

  13. Re:Problems never change on Why We'll Never Meet Aliens · · Score: 1

    True enough. Always has been. Oh, darn, I forgot and switched to my autism sig line. My previous sig line was Je Suis Marxiste, Tendance Reinhard- Cardinal Reinhard Marx of Bavaria seems to have a lot to say on the subject of just distribution.

  14. Re:Hilarious Irony on Cracked Game Released To Get Back At Pirates · · Score: 4, Funny

    If I buy their game, do I also get access to the cracked version to teach my kid a lesson?

  15. Re:Problems never change on Why We'll Never Meet Aliens · · Score: 1

    That's because we did it wrong. What we should have done- used freeze dry and MRE packaging techniques, and air bombed the country from 30,000 feet, spreading it out wide and making sure everybody got some.

    Then we should have followed that up with a seed drop- the ultimate in guerilla gardening, to make sure the land would produce the next season whether or not anybody farmed.

    But you have a good point- famine is only caused by politics and bad economics, these days.

  16. Re:Why would I want a "Nanny" app? on From 'Quantified Self' To 'Quantified Car' · · Score: 1

    Yep, 2nd gen. Don't know how this will react if I ever need to put chains on......

  17. Re:Problems never change on Why We'll Never Meet Aliens · · Score: 1

    Why not overproduce every year, and send half to Africa?

    Or overproduce every year, use the same process as these guys, and store up enough food for 27 years worth of famine:
    http://www.mygofoods.com/?

    In short, why bother with the free market at all?

  18. Re:They would come to earth for the same reason on Why We'll Never Meet Aliens · · Score: 1

    Got it more from the poem at the base of the Statue of Liberty. Well, that and the realization that Europe is almost as bad as Mexico.

  19. Re:Problems never change on Why We'll Never Meet Aliens · · Score: 1

    If that was true, we wouldn't need agricultural subsidies to retard production.

  20. Re:the only thing worth coming for on Why We'll Never Meet Aliens · · Score: 1

    I would assume you'd do it much the same way a horizontal wood chipper works: Using the grinding gears to keep pulling the material in. Or did you think that a wood chipper only works if stuff is thrown into the bin?

    But as somebody else already pointed out- the fuel used to chase down the material could well be more than the cost to lift out of a gravity well.....

  21. Re:Why would I want a "Nanny" app? on From 'Quantified Self' To 'Quantified Car' · · Score: 1

    I've noticed this on my prius even. Hit a pebble, the blinky slidely light goes off.....

  22. Re:How long before somebody subverts it? on From 'Quantified Self' To 'Quantified Car' · · Score: 1

    How is this any different than the video game my Prius already displays on screen to distract me while I'm driving?

  23. Re:this is silly on Why We'll Never Meet Aliens · · Score: 1

    I've already commented, or I'd mod you up.

    The other reasonable answer is a religious need for followers to evangelize.

  24. Re:Problems never change on Why We'll Never Meet Aliens · · Score: 1

    Scarcity is already largely an artifact of the attempt of international capitalism to maximize profit by limiting supply.

  25. Re:no intelligent life here on Why We'll Never Meet Aliens · · Score: 1

    Intelligence isn't limited to rationality, even in human beings.