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  1. Re:Immigrants and Science on Debugging Indian Computer Programmers · · Score: 1

    Firstly, the US population is 250 million and not 350 million.

    You're going on the 2000 census without adding in immigration and birth rate since that time.

    Secondly, using nuclear power with breeder reactors you can desalinisation billions of gallons of water and irrigate it over the land. Very little pollution from breeder reactors compared with today's reactors.

    True- just higher levels of radioactivity in the plutonium they spit out as waste. Lesser ammounts of waste to be sure- but much more dangerous waste.

    Are you seriously telling me that you would be using a mechanical computer at 3.8GHz with thousands of millions of bytes of RAM and nearly a terabyte of disk space in a mini-ITX sized motherboard using mechanical components? The answer is of course, no.

    Who needs all that power if you program correctly? I did just as well with a 1Mhz Timex Sinclair as I do with a 3.8 Ghz machine today. The power is just a gimick to make you upgrade.

    Do you complain about cavemen discovering fire - gee.. think of all the smoke being put in the atmosphere, we could of developed just as well without it!

    Leaver communities do not breed indiscriminately either.

  2. Re:Short-sighted argument. on Debugging Indian Computer Programmers · · Score: 1

    benefited greatly from it

    I'd disagree on that one- a few people have benefited but the majority of Americans have become little more than wage slaves, losing liberty and freedom in exchange for pretty cheap baubles from Wal*mart. That's a HUGE loss that offsets any gains we've had from capitalism. The dream of Independance is gone thanks to capitalism; only the myths and the lies remain.

  3. Re:Immigrants on Debugging Indian Computer Programmers · · Score: 1

    The problem with this is the "employer sponsored green card" != Green Card. Employer sponsored ANYTHING is nothing more than indentured labor agreements.

    And those market studies are largely a joke as well, since they rarely cover jobs that Americans can be trained to do, only jobs that Americans have the skillset for already.

  4. Re:But the whole thing is easily abused... on Debugging Indian Computer Programmers · · Score: 1

    It might also appear in a local newspaper or something.

    Usually a local newspaper halfway across the country- or all the way across. It's amazing how many New York City jobs are posting in the Portland Oregonian.

  5. Re:Immigrants on Debugging Indian Computer Programmers · · Score: 1

    The lesser pay is offset by the longer term job- in Oregon at least the average IT job only lasts two years in private industry, but six in State Government. Also, in Oregon, you only need to fill out a PDB 300- a two page form- in addition to your resume. Thirdly, outsourcing isn't likely to be done soon- the State Government has noticed the $1 billion drop in tax money due to Oregonians being laid off, and is taking measures to correct the situation. I think for most of the United States it's probably similar.

  6. Re:Immigrants on Debugging Indian Computer Programmers · · Score: 1

    Its not true. H1b visa is both immigrant and non-immigrant visa. You can get H1b with the intent to immigrate and most H1b holders get green cards and stay in US. Its actually the prefered (by US immigration officials) way for skilled workers to immigrate to US.

    Take a look at the way the law is written- this is actually ILLEGAL. It's a commonly used loophole though- and nothing's preventing an H-1b user from entering the green card lottery. Certainly NOT INS/ICE- after all, they gave Mohammad Atta a J-1 visa six months after he died in 9-11.

  7. Re:Ancient Foresight on Debugging Indian Computer Programmers · · Score: 1

    :-) Pretty good, but the ancient legend (the Kwakiutal version of the flood legend) says that an entire civilization was destroyed for "defying the Gods" and using technology. Only two survivor's families- a pair of brothers who were out fishing- survived, and landed on Whoop Tzu, the Noisy Mountain, in British Columbia. From them, all Kwakiutal are descended.

  8. Re:US is NOT a free society on Debugging Indian Computer Programmers · · Score: 1

    A government that actually PROVIDES for the common welfare and gives jobs to people that taxes on the rich pay for- like the US Constitution requires the US Government to do. See my journal entry on the founding fathers for just how screwed up Capitalism is, and why it was NEVER intended for this country to be ruled by Corporations instead of by the People.

    Corporatists and capitalists are traitors, pure and simple- and should be dealt with as such.

  9. Re:Immigrants and Science on Debugging Indian Computer Programmers · · Score: 1

    I love the old 'overpopulated' arguement.

    The point is local, not worldwide. Locally, and using a leaver culture instead of a taker culture, the top population for the United States should be 120 Million, not 350 million like we're trying to stuff into it today.

    The entire worlds population could live with 100m^2 per person in the area the size of TEXAS. While obviously the area of Texas could not support the population, it's estimated that if farming was as efficent in the 'third world' as it is in N. America, Europe and Japan that it could easily feed 15 billion people plus. The earth's populations curves top out at 9billion maximum - it'll start declining after that as the rest of the world gets far more wealthy and starts living like American and European families (that is, only one or two children instead of ten).

    That "efficient farming" is bought at an incredibly high price- between soil mineral depletion and genetically modified plants wiping out natural stocks, we're looking at the American Midwest being a desert by 2080.

    I really can't understand who could say that the development of Nuclear theory by Einstein et al is 'bad'. There is so many advancements of technology (hint: you wouldn't be using your computer without it) both directly and indirectly from it that it is simply stupid to suggest that we'd be better off without it.

    There would have been other advancements in other areas- computer technology, for instance, is equally doable using mechanical rather than electronic components, and indeed predates Einstein by nearly 100 years. What we wouldn't have if we didn't have Einstein is radioactive waste from power plants leaking off the Hanford Reservation into the Columbia River. Of course- my view is small. I'm a native in more ways than one. But I see NOTHING good coming to Oregon from any of those that you mentioned, and a lot of evil.

  10. Re:Immigrants on Debugging Indian Computer Programmers · · Score: 1

    That and talking sticks....plus little wheeled carts for toys (but NEVER for practical use, there's an interesting legend behind that on the Kwakiutal side of things from the Jowadaino tribe, about the dangers of technology).

  11. Re:Short-sighted argument. on Debugging Indian Computer Programmers · · Score: 2, Interesting

    See my journal entry two back. America was NEVER meant to be a capitalist country- Jefferson and the other federalists considered corporations to be as dangerous as nobility, perhaps more. What we are living in under capitalism, is not what America was meant to be.

  12. Re:why isn't it fair? on Debugging Indian Computer Programmers · · Score: 1

    Wrong end of the stick. The argument isn't that the money shouldn't go to him at all- it's that he should get 3x the wages so that there is no wage disparity at all and so that he CAN feed his family in American style.

    The only way somebody who opposes wealth disparity would be happy with jobs going to India paid the same as jobs in the United States.

  13. Re:USA: Assimilated Immigrants == Native on Debugging Indian Computer Programmers · · Score: 1

    I have ancestors that were here 10,000 years ago. I have ancestors from Eastern Europe, Germany, Holland, and England, as well as the Columbia River Basin. The last immigrant in my family was 3 generations back, and she came from Canada, and her initial move into the United States was under 10 miles from where she was born (a farm in Alberta to St. John North Dakota).

    My race is as mixed as they come- I have no ancesteral home other than right where I'm living- within 50 miles of where my Klickitat and Nes Pierce ancestors hunted and fished. Yet I'm expected to either work for the State of Oregon- or move to India, because that's the only places with jobs for me anymore. When you get 80 applications for flipping burgers rejected because you have too much education, you get to be a little resentfull.

  14. Re:Immigrants on Debugging Indian Computer Programmers · · Score: 1

    H-1b=wage slave. Real immigrants stay here more than 6 years, get married, have native children and grandchildren. H-1bs just come here to work and get thrown out when they are used up.

  15. Re:From H1-B to Green Card on Debugging Indian Computer Programmers · · Score: 1

    Ok- go home or be robbed by some profiteering lawyer. What a choice! No wonder they're willing to do anything to hold on to those jobs.

  16. Re:Jobs on Debugging Indian Computer Programmers · · Score: 1

    Forget private industry- they're all a bunch of Free Traitors. Try for the programming departments of State Government instead.

  17. Re:Immigrants and Science on Debugging Indian Computer Programmers · · Score: 0, Troll

    Here's another hint- saving lives isn't always and forever for the best. It leads to overpopulation and utter decimation of the environment. Which is EXACTLY what is wrong with India to begin with- do you really want US cities to look like Calcutta?

  18. Re:US is NOT a free society on Debugging Indian Computer Programmers · · Score: 1

    Well, its certantly much more free than China or Cuba.

    Is it? Tell me, how long do you have to work to earn a bowl of rice? In China or Cuba the bowl of rice is given freely- in America it's $4.95 + tax.

  19. Re:Best IT in the world on Debugging Indian Computer Programmers · · Score: 1

    Uh, the last couple of elections elected a neo-conservative; which like the neoliberals is all for destroying the American middle class if it means that the rich get richer off of cheap labor.

    The last 4 Presidential elections, and the last 6 Congressional elections, all elected Free Traitors above patriotic politicians.

  20. Re:Short-sighted argument. on Debugging Indian Computer Programmers · · Score: 1

    Anti H-1b != anti-immigration. Most of us have gone to NumbersUSA and realize that the flip side of the numbers is that if immigration were controled PROPERLY we'd still need a half a million immigrants every year (when you add in the illegals and the guest workers, right now we're sitting at someplace between 2-12 million immigrants a year, depending on whose numbers you believe for coming across the largely unguarded Arizona border). I'd love it if EVERY immigrant, before getting on a plane to come here, had to get a green card- no fsking guest worker programs, and strong enough borders to actually keep people out.

  21. Re:Paying disproportionate share of taxes? on Debugging Indian Computer Programmers · · Score: 1

    Does it cost more to save their house than somebody elses?

    For the original Apartment Vs. Mansion comparison- YES. The cost of saving an Apartment House is the same, but the cost of saving a single apartment is devided by the number of apartments in the apartment house.

  22. Re:Got to agree... on Debugging Indian Computer Programmers · · Score: 1

    2) is no longer economically viable. You'll spend more on education than you'll ever earn in salary, and die in debt.

  23. Re:I could be mistaken, but... on Debugging Indian Computer Programmers · · Score: 1

    The transition to a global economy will be a long and painful one, but it beats the alternatives.

    No it doesn't- the world could be a very peacefull place if the old continent was uninhabitable.

  24. Re:Immigrants and Science on Debugging Indian Computer Programmers · · Score: 0, Troll

    And were their scientific advancements POSITIVE? If anything, those advancements were largely negative- giving more power to the corporations to enslave the people.

  25. Re:Immigrants on Debugging Indian Computer Programmers · · Score: 1

    Unless your family was hunting buffalo here thousands of years ago, you're just a newbie tourist.

    Some of mine were fishing for salmon and hunting deer (not many buffalo this side of the Rockies). Does that count?