So am I- and I wouldn't call my view child-like at all, just different. In a way, it's MORE mature than the average adult judging people on appearance as if they never got out of high school (I hated that part of high school). But then again, that's why I included hackers as well- the Hacker's Ethic states that such judgements are bogus criteria. Could also include St. James the Epistle Writer I guess- he's the one who started that whole bit about works being more important than faith, about what you do being more important than what you appear to do.
you were smart enough to know that you can't stop all of the terrorist that are attempting to infiltrate.
Even I, a lowly computer hacker, can design a system using modern armements that can stop human beings from crossing an arbitrary border- and in fact, stop all of them. What is so hard about this? Unless, of course, you're stupid enough to attempt to discriminate- let friends pass and others perish- that's much harder. But considering that the Bush Administration has insured that we have no other friends, why not button up our borders instead of taking jaunts halfway across the world while leaving the homeland undefended?
nobody who cares about politics cares about candidate website standards conformity.
I care- standards conformity in the website leads to other forms of standards conformity that you may care more about. Like the Just War Standard, Verion 0.1b, which was written by Augustine of Hippo in City of God in 400 A.D. which states that a just war should never be conducted outside of your own territory. You should not take revenge in your enemy's territory, and you shouldn't fight your wars on the territory of third parties. Hmm- I guess this means that the Bush Administration doesn't care about that standard either.
Seems like if anything, too much detail. Being able to change is a mark of being intelligent. And no- you wouldn't have to put down EXACTLY what you want to do to get a bill past Congress- Congress passes funding bills all the time for stuff they can't tell the public about and have no details on. All you have to do is convince the rest that it's a good idea- and it will be done.
You are an idiot, you will vote for kerry who you can not trust, but will not vote for bush because you can not trush him. You need to get educated.
What you fail to understand is that I don't trust anybody-ever. Trust is not an issue with me in voting because I have no faith left in anybody- including you.
Well, I don't think I could vote for a guy named "Marxist Hacker", but I agree that we need new blood in politics. I'm already pissed off at the Big Two! Neither one represents 90% of the country.
Believe me- I won't be using that old Internet nick when running (it's pretty outdated anyway- I've held this nickname for more than a decade, and long ago I discovered that Marx was really plagerizing St. Luke (Acts 4-5)).
Al-Qaeda has been working to kill Americans around the world for decades. The intelligence briefing of August 6th wasn't ignored -- it was so vague that is was almost meaningless.
And we should have pulled out of the Middle East decades ago- back in 1978 we had the beginings of mass ethanol production, until Reagan got into office.
Ridiculous! No one is gonna go for rationing, our economy would've suffered and it wouldn't stop Saddam. We purchased only a fraction of our oil from Iraq -- Saddam had no trouble finding buyers for his oil.
Our economy isn't real anyway- it's all a big con game by the Corporations to make it impossible for the middle class to exist.
Utter crap. Point me to any real quote where GW says 'God is speaking through me'.
There are plenty of countries that practice socialism and provide universal healthcare... don't want your socialism here.
And we've lost jobs to most of them. The fact of the matter is, under the current system, a fat cat insurance agent gets money off of your fear of being ill. Under socialized universal health care, you cut out that pirate.
you mean those that aren't killed by terrorists?
If we'd actually protect our borders and stop importing from terrorists and end the economic terrorism of the MNCs- there would be no terrorist attacks here. 15/19 hijackers came from Saudi Arabia- we should have cut off all imports from there the day after the attack.
Lots of people are finding jobs that pay twice as much as they did four years ago. That's life. If you can't deal with competition, then you either need to be good at what you do, or you're gonna have a real tough time of it.
Unfortuneately, the numbers say you're lying about this.
You're a dangerous kind of looney; one that figures they ought to spread the dementia to anyone who'll listen. All the accounting scandals now coming to light happened during the Clinton Administration. Before Bush took office, before the attack of 9/11/01.
Which is why I voted against Clinton in 1996. I don't trust any of the corporate puppets.
It would also put his positions down on paper, something he will not do.
Have you bothered to look at the website? It's chock full of PDF white papers on his positions.
That isn't the mark of someone you can trust.
I can't trust ANYBODY who actually wants the job. So sorry- can't trust Bush either (he never puts anything down on paper because he can't spell- he's dyslexic).
The only thing I disagree with is this: The economy really is doing well,
I don't see it. There's only ONE economic indicator that affects consumer confidence- the ratio of able workers to available jobs. This is NOT the unemployment rate- the labor pool is about 1/4th of the able worker population. I call this the labor utilization number. I estimate labor utilization in the United States to be somewhat south of 50% among citzens, and somewhat north of 90% among recent immigrants, guest workers, and illegals. That's a very volitile situation- it basically amounts to an invasion when nobody was looking because we were all worried about terrorists. Real disabled aren't a part of it- but the idle rich are a part of the problem, as are all the workers who are faking disabilities because they've run out of unemployment benefits, as well as the discouraged worker population (those people who have been looking more than 18 months for a job and who are dropped off the roles for not looking hard enough), as well as "contract" workers like myself who don't have a permanent job or benefits.
But don't forget to screen out the crazy humans first...otherwise you'll end up bringing in that one human who is willing to suicide in the anti-matter drive just to destroy the whole ship. (I actually don't remember if that short story had K'zinti in it or just some other cat-like carnivore species- but it's the one thing that made my childhood liveable, and I WILL find it again before my son hits school).
I think whatever it is will be far less flamboyant and far more sneaky- like staging a fake terrorist attack in January to prevent the transfer of power.
No- due to the out of breath factor- but as I posted before, a $200 electric razor scooter would do just as well as the 45000 Segway- unless your candidate had no sense of balance at all (for instance, it wouldn't work for W- but then neither does a Segway since you have to turn it ON before the gyroscopes work).
Right now? Probably because he has to convince 99 other people, or rather at least 50 of them, that his plan is a good one. That will defeat any good plan. Give him Executive Orders and that will change.
However- given a nice straight highway, bungees on the steering wheel, no traffic, and cruise control I'd imagine this working for several hundred miles before an actual accident occuring.
Doesn't pass the "get to the door without being out of breath" test in all situations (which was the *big* thing in the article- that this over 50 year old candidate could hit twice to three times as many houses without being out of breath).
Since the candidate in question is a HUGE believer in door-to-door campaigning, being able to still do it despite advanced years is a big deal.
if you truly believe bush & co. would do that, please state why
also, you said something about running in 2008, is that for real?
go you if it is, we could use more choices
In hopes that a Kerry or a Bush presidency will get people pissed off enough for a real populist to get some traction again- my hero is Huey Long.
They'd work just as well- bet on the third party candidates to use them instead (since few of their campaign budgets can take a $5000 hit). Last I saw, you can pick up Razor's equivalent of the Segway at Shucks for under $200.
for those who haven't seen it, and to spoil the joke a bit- Bobby McAllister is the younger brother on the WB show Jack & Bobby. Set in present day, the show is a series of flashbacks, from 2041 when Rev. Robert McAllister, after being a preacher and a governor, gets elected President.
In the second episode, it's revealed that he suffers from asthma- definately a down side to a politician going door to door asking for votes. He must have used a Segway!
Toppling a brutal anti-human-rights regime in Afghanistan which was sheltering Al-Qaeda was a wrong decision?
In that the regime in Afghanistan wasn't the cause behind the terrorism- just a supporter- it was the best possible decision of a whole bunch of bad decisions that started with W's grandfather investing in Saudi Oil to begin with and ending with ignoring the August 6th daily intelligence briefing.
Toppling a brutal terrorist regime in Iraq responsible for the deaths of millions of muslims was a wrong decision?
The other option was obvious- cut back on our energy usage with rationing and stop importing from the region at all.
A terrorist regime with funding links to Al-Qaeda -- that was a wrong decision?
Unproven at best. Laughable at worst, considering that Hussien was a SUNNI- and al Qaeda considers sunnis to be infidels worthy only of death.
Provide real examples please. The bankruptcy thing is ridiculous: Corporate bankruptcies happen all the time in America...
Yes, they do- and I consider most C-level executives that let it happen to be incompetent at best and downright criminal at worst. I wouldn't want either to be a leader of my country.
G.W. Bush has a record of RIGHT decisions while he was holding a public office. He's not right all the time,
He'd be the first to disagree with you- according to his recent speeches he's listening to God and God is speaking through him- and thus he is right all the time.
but his right decisions far outweigh the wrong ones.
Depends on your point of view- if you LIKE being at war, if you LIKE leaving this country entirely undefended while sending the troops off on a jaunt halfway around the world, if you LIKE big business getting a free ride to do whatever the hell they want to the people of the United States, then sure- Bush makes right decisions that far outstrip the wrong ones. Meanwhile- back in reality- people like me are left with jobs that pay half as much as they did 4 years ago, and have no benefits, so I've got to stay up late to give my kid over-the-counter cough syrup instead of having him looked at by a doctor, in hopes that he'll stop coughing long enough so that I can go to my job that pays $800/month less than we need to survive. That's the reality. IF we had done the proper thing after 9-11 and shut down the borders, confiscated the private businesses, and made sure our people were taken care of FIRST, instead of going off on wars in support of the con-artists who had offices in the twin towers, we'd be much better off.
If only they took drugs. It might open their minds. I wonder if Bush and his clique could still go ahead and perpetrate all the shit they do after a few mind-blowing trips on shrooms and/or LSD...
Actually, Bush and his clique were very much into this for about 40 years- I say it's how they got the way they are today.
In a way- I far prefer giving up our economic system to giving up our morality- but we're going to have to do one or the other to get out of this mess that Prescott Bush got us into.
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So am I- and I wouldn't call my view child-like at all, just different. In a way, it's MORE mature than the average adult judging people on appearance as if they never got out of high school (I hated that part of high school). But then again, that's why I included hackers as well- the Hacker's Ethic states that such judgements are bogus criteria. Could also include St. James the Epistle Writer I guess- he's the one who started that whole bit about works being more important than faith, about what you do being more important than what you appear to do.
you were smart enough to know that you can't stop all of the terrorist that are attempting to infiltrate.
Even I, a lowly computer hacker, can design a system using modern armements that can stop human beings from crossing an arbitrary border- and in fact, stop all of them. What is so hard about this? Unless, of course, you're stupid enough to attempt to discriminate- let friends pass and others perish- that's much harder. But considering that the Bush Administration has insured that we have no other friends, why not button up our borders instead of taking jaunts halfway across the world while leaving the homeland undefended?
nobody who cares about politics cares about candidate website standards conformity.
I care- standards conformity in the website leads to other forms of standards conformity that you may care more about. Like the Just War Standard, Verion 0.1b, which was written by Augustine of Hippo in City of God in 400 A.D. which states that a just war should never be conducted outside of your own territory. You should not take revenge in your enemy's territory, and you shouldn't fight your wars on the territory of third parties. Hmm- I guess this means that the Bush Administration doesn't care about that standard either.
Autistic people and hackers are different- we judge people based on what they do, not what they say or how they look.
Seems like if anything, too much detail. Being able to change is a mark of being intelligent. And no- you wouldn't have to put down EXACTLY what you want to do to get a bill past Congress- Congress passes funding bills all the time for stuff they can't tell the public about and have no details on. All you have to do is convince the rest that it's a good idea- and it will be done.
You are an idiot, you will vote for kerry who you can not trust, but will not vote for bush because you can not trush him. You need to get educated.
What you fail to understand is that I don't trust anybody-ever. Trust is not an issue with me in voting because I have no faith left in anybody- including you.
Well, I don't think I could vote for a guy named "Marxist Hacker", but I agree that we need new blood in politics. I'm already pissed off at the Big Two! Neither one represents 90% of the country.
Believe me- I won't be using that old Internet nick when running (it's pretty outdated anyway- I've held this nickname for more than a decade, and long ago I discovered that Marx was really plagerizing St. Luke (Acts 4-5)).
Al-Qaeda has been working to kill Americans around the world for decades. The intelligence briefing of August 6th wasn't ignored -- it was so vague that is was almost meaningless.
... don't want your socialism here.
And we should have pulled out of the Middle East decades ago- back in 1978 we had the beginings of mass ethanol production, until Reagan got into office.
Ridiculous! No one is gonna go for rationing, our economy would've suffered and it wouldn't stop Saddam. We purchased only a fraction of our oil from Iraq -- Saddam had no trouble finding buyers for his oil.
Our economy isn't real anyway- it's all a big con game by the Corporations to make it impossible for the middle class to exist.
Utter crap. Point me to any real quote where GW says 'God is speaking through me'.
W Tells Amish "God is speaking through me"
There are plenty of countries that practice socialism and provide universal healthcare
And we've lost jobs to most of them. The fact of the matter is, under the current system, a fat cat insurance agent gets money off of your fear of being ill. Under socialized universal health care, you cut out that pirate.
you mean those that aren't killed by terrorists?
If we'd actually protect our borders and stop importing from terrorists and end the economic terrorism of the MNCs- there would be no terrorist attacks here. 15/19 hijackers came from Saudi Arabia- we should have cut off all imports from there the day after the attack.
Lots of people are finding jobs that pay twice as much as they did four years ago. That's life. If you can't deal with competition, then you either need to be good at what you do, or you're gonna have a real tough time of it.
Unfortuneately, the numbers say you're lying about this.
You're a dangerous kind of looney; one that figures they ought to spread the dementia to anyone who'll listen. All the accounting scandals now coming to light happened during the Clinton Administration. Before Bush took office, before the attack of 9/11/01.
Which is why I voted against Clinton in 1996. I don't trust any of the corporate puppets.
It would also put his positions down on paper, something he will not do.
Have you bothered to look at the website? It's chock full of PDF white papers on his positions.
That isn't the mark of someone you can trust.
I can't trust ANYBODY who actually wants the job. So sorry- can't trust Bush either (he never puts anything down on paper because he can't spell- he's dyslexic).
The only thing I disagree with is this:
The economy really is doing well,
I don't see it. There's only ONE economic indicator that affects consumer confidence- the ratio of able workers to available jobs. This is NOT the unemployment rate- the labor pool is about 1/4th of the able worker population. I call this the labor utilization number. I estimate labor utilization in the United States to be somewhat south of 50% among citzens, and somewhat north of 90% among recent immigrants, guest workers, and illegals. That's a very volitile situation- it basically amounts to an invasion when nobody was looking because we were all worried about terrorists. Real disabled aren't a part of it- but the idle rich are a part of the problem, as are all the workers who are faking disabilities because they've run out of unemployment benefits, as well as the discouraged worker population (those people who have been looking more than 18 months for a job and who are dropped off the roles for not looking hard enough), as well as "contract" workers like myself who don't have a permanent job or benefits.
But don't forget to screen out the crazy humans first...otherwise you'll end up bringing in that one human who is willing to suicide in the anti-matter drive just to destroy the whole ship. (I actually don't remember if that short story had K'zinti in it or just some other cat-like carnivore species- but it's the one thing that made my childhood liveable, and I WILL find it again before my son hits school).
I think whatever it is will be far less flamboyant and far more sneaky- like staging a fake terrorist attack in January to prevent the transfer of power.
It just goes to prove what I've said all along- the average IQ is 100 and people that stupid think that there are no alternate paths.
No- due to the out of breath factor- but as I posted before, a $200 electric razor scooter would do just as well as the 45000 Segway- unless your candidate had no sense of balance at all (for instance, it wouldn't work for W- but then neither does a Segway since you have to turn it ON before the gyroscopes work).
Right now? Probably because he has to convince 99 other people, or rather at least 50 of them, that his plan is a good one. That will defeat any good plan. Give him Executive Orders and that will change.
I use mine as a radar detector. Well, not really- but it does beep when I exceed the preprogrammed speed limits for certain types of roads.
However- given a nice straight highway, bungees on the steering wheel, no traffic, and cruise control I'd imagine this working for several hundred miles before an actual accident occuring.
Doesn't pass the "get to the door without being out of breath" test in all situations (which was the *big* thing in the article- that this over 50 year old candidate could hit twice to three times as many houses without being out of breath).
Since the candidate in question is a HUGE believer in door-to-door campaigning, being able to still do it despite advanced years is a big deal.
You're not disillusioned a bit are you?
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Very- I voted FOR Bush in 2000.
Um, the unions are still Democrat.
I suspect that modern organized crime is on the other side of the paycheck. It's far more lucrative to skim off the top.
I don't see it. I hope you're wrong.
The sad part is that it's not limited to the Presidential race, to any one location, or to either side. The problem is nationwide, covers almost all races, and is getting uglier by the day. A few examples (so far, pre-election, it's pretty much been limited to PROPERTY damage as opposed to personal damage, but that could easily change quickly):
http://www.sungazette.com/letters/letter_details.
http://bakersfield.com/elections/story/4975842p-5
http://www.coloradoan.com/news/stories/20041019/n
http://www.sullivan-county.com/nf0/june_2004/reca
http://www.eagletribune.com/news/stories/20040326
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1236613/
http://www.oregonlive.com/news/oregonian/index.ss
My area is in that last section- and is particularily bad across the rural/urban divide.
if you truly believe bush & co. would do that, please state why also, you said something about running in 2008, is that for real? go you if it is, we could use more choices
In hopes that a Kerry or a Bush presidency will get people pissed off enough for a real populist to get some traction again- my hero is Huey Long.
They'd work just as well- bet on the third party candidates to use them instead (since few of their campaign budgets can take a $5000 hit). Last I saw, you can pick up Razor's equivalent of the Segway at Shucks for under $200.
for those who haven't seen it, and to spoil the joke a bit- Bobby McAllister is the younger brother on the WB show Jack & Bobby. Set in present day, the show is a series of flashbacks, from 2041 when Rev. Robert McAllister, after being a preacher and a governor, gets elected President.
In the second episode, it's revealed that he suffers from asthma- definately a down side to a politician going door to door asking for votes. He must have used a Segway!
For $3700, I would hope that they'd come pre-neutered.
Toppling a brutal anti-human-rights regime in Afghanistan which was sheltering Al-Qaeda was a wrong decision?
...
In that the regime in Afghanistan wasn't the cause behind the terrorism- just a supporter- it was the best possible decision of a whole bunch of bad decisions that started with W's grandfather investing in Saudi Oil to begin with and ending with ignoring the August 6th daily intelligence briefing.
Toppling a brutal terrorist regime in Iraq responsible for the deaths of millions of muslims was a wrong decision?
The other option was obvious- cut back on our energy usage with rationing and stop importing from the region at all.
A terrorist regime with funding links to Al-Qaeda -- that was a wrong decision?
Unproven at best. Laughable at worst, considering that Hussien was a SUNNI- and al Qaeda considers sunnis to be infidels worthy only of death.
Provide real examples please. The bankruptcy thing is ridiculous: Corporate bankruptcies happen all the time in America
Yes, they do- and I consider most C-level executives that let it happen to be incompetent at best and downright criminal at worst. I wouldn't want either to be a leader of my country.
G.W. Bush has a record of RIGHT decisions while he was holding a public office. He's not right all the time,
He'd be the first to disagree with you- according to his recent speeches he's listening to God and God is speaking through him- and thus he is right all the time.
but his right decisions far outweigh the wrong ones.
Depends on your point of view- if you LIKE being at war, if you LIKE leaving this country entirely undefended while sending the troops off on a jaunt halfway around the world, if you LIKE big business getting a free ride to do whatever the hell they want to the people of the United States, then sure- Bush makes right decisions that far outstrip the wrong ones. Meanwhile- back in reality- people like me are left with jobs that pay half as much as they did 4 years ago, and have no benefits, so I've got to stay up late to give my kid over-the-counter cough syrup instead of having him looked at by a doctor, in hopes that he'll stop coughing long enough so that I can go to my job that pays $800/month less than we need to survive. That's the reality. IF we had done the proper thing after 9-11 and shut down the borders, confiscated the private businesses, and made sure our people were taken care of FIRST, instead of going off on wars in support of the con-artists who had offices in the twin towers, we'd be much better off.
If only they took drugs. It might open their minds. I wonder if Bush and his clique could still go ahead and perpetrate all the shit they do after a few mind-blowing trips on shrooms and/or LSD...
Actually, Bush and his clique were very much into this for about 40 years- I say it's how they got the way they are today.
In a way- I far prefer giving up our economic system to giving up our morality- but we're going to have to do one or the other to get out of this mess that Prescott Bush got us into.