All he did was attach to an OPEN SHARE DRIVE on the Senate LAN. I would have thought this would have been cleared up months ago- Republicans apologize to Democrats, and Democrats start password protecting your share drives!
The whole thing is proof positive to me that we need a new generation in leadership of this country. These old fogies don't even understand the technology that is on their desks- how can they ever hope to understand such complex issues as why we shouldn't be letting Taiwan build all of our hardware?
But you can see why, for example, someone in ND (which hasn't seen a presidental candidate stop by in 3 election cycles) might think the EC was a bit outdated. MN and WI aren't likely to be bothered with either. You need more than 10 EVs AND be a swing voter state to get attention this round. PA, IL, and NY will be getting heavy candidate attention, but if the EV count is close, ME may be the FL of 2004. It's the closest race.
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The weapons inspectors they kicked out *WERE* a condition of the cease fire.
The only people kicking the weapons inspectors out was the Bush Administration- Saddam was attempting to comply with them within the limits of his political ability. So no- that doesn't prove that Saddam was the one who violated the cease fire.
Also in 1998 I did not see crying and gnashing of teeth when Clinton used the same thing to bomb Iraq..
Because in 1998- Saddam was the one who kicked out the weapons inspectors. Also, we didn't have an incomplete more important mission in 1998 either- where in 2002 we did (and still do. Worse than that, given recent Taliban activity in Afghanistan, we seem to have failed completely at that second mission).
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A process doesn't 'die' unless you tell it to.
And a human being doesn't die unless it's reached that life's natural end point OR you deny it the resources needed to survive- just like a process needs memory to survive. Deny it that memory, and you deny it life.
Secondly, a process within an operating system is a means to an end, directly or indirectly a human end at that. The operating system too. This is a basic difference. Humans are ends in themselves and not means to the end of others.
Human beings are not ends within themselves- they exist to procreate, much like any computer virus. They are a part of the greater whole of the culture, society, and species.
For one, resource allocation in an operating system is always a zero sum game. In real world economics, it is rarly so.
Really? Where are we getting the extra elements and electrons then? There's nothing in the Solar System that hasn't been there for the entire time humanity has been alive. It's a zero sum game in that there's nothing being added or subtracted- it's just that humanity is a much smaller part than we'd like to imagine ourselves to be. In the end, on a universal scale, economics IS indeed a zero sum game, always. Can't violate the 2nd law of thermodynamics indefinately.
Processes can not create new resources,
Neither can humans, we can only develop what's already here.
and they can't modify algorithms (usage of resources) to run more efficiently on their own.
Have you never written a self-modifying program? I've got plenty of programs that modify their own algorithims for more efficient resource usage on their own in my house- admitedly I use quite a bit more artificial intelligence than the average computer user, but I don't see why I should need to mess with something when the computer can mess with itself perfectly well and much faster than I can.
They can't overcome the limitations set by their creators. They can't create.
Strictly speaking, neither can human beings. There are limits on our creativity. If you don't believe me, just try to go eat a radio wave.
basic axioms are called that because they can't be proven. They are supposed to be apparant.
But they aren't very apparent. That's the whole point of thinking outside of their box. Most of them are simply myths that we accept because we were taught to- they have no real existance in and of themselves.
Nobody's bothering with either ID or ND anyway. They've only got 7 electoral votes between them, and they're both so strongly Bush that Kerry isn't even bothering to campaign there.
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and then violated the terms of a cease fire..
I'd point out that it's never been proven that Iraq actually violated the terms of the cease fire- only that Saddam wanted to. Intention is not equal to action, no matter how much you want it to be.
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So, who gets to 'organize' the rental. In other words, how does it get done? Especially, how do you think that conflicts would be resolved. Say A and B would like to eat apple C. Who gets it and by what standard?
Why not fcfs algorithim? It works fine in Unix resource allocation, to a large extent. This gets to my second fundamental truth- economic systems are just physical world operating systems.
I am sincerely asking. Arguing is over, since our basic axioms are different. There is no way to have a discussion about 'fundamental' truths.
If you can't learn to question basic axioms, you'll never grow beyond them. That's the basic meaning behind Godel's incompleteness theorem.
The government isn't and should never be in the business of making money, competing with private industry.
And yet, we do it already in the area of package delivery- in the United States the USPO is the low cost leader in the industry, and still makes enough of a profit that they haven't required tax money in the last century. There is NO reason why the government shouldn't be competing in any national security industry. They can get workers easily among those that private industry has thrown away, and could produce cheap enough goods to effectively remove survival from being able to find work.
To kill a company is simple happens all the time: for example, when they can't make payroll.
That only hurts the workers, not the stockholders.
You have one already. It's called the market place. If the company pisses off the public it loses a crapload of money. Even a monopoly. It's not a perfect system (nothing is) because not everyone is going to have your particular sense of right and wrong, but it does work. When e.coli was found in some Odwalla juice, it hit Odwalla very bad. It took them a long time to get back to where they were before the incident.
Losing money isn't enough- a good businessman simply sets his price high enough to cover such blips. The stockholders need to be hit, and hit hard, when businesses do bad things.
Under a true laissez-faire system, there would be no corporate liability shield for the stockholders. That's purely a govenrment granted privilege. Under laissez-faire the stockholders are responsible for the actions of their company. When Exxon dumped crude oil on the Alaskan coast, one ship pilot got fired. BFD. Under a laissez faire system every stockholder would have been liable for damages and cleanup costs. Collectively it might not amount to much for each stockholder (like your grandma with one share in your pension fund), but collectively those same stockholders are going to do a heck of a lot more to keep the company on a moral even keel, simply because they're responsible for it. It's one thing to demand stock growth at any cost when you're not accountable, but it's another when you ARE accountable.
And that's where I like laissez-faire, because THIS is a big enough stick.
Oh, your friends live in Bethleham? (Bethleham being a small, non-incorporated community near Woodburn, OR, full of Russian Orthodox believers).
Yeah, we just use a cheap amber, usually whatever we can get in the keg for cheap. Haven't thought about using the sausage beer in the kraut, it's a good idea and I'll run it by my dad to see what he thinks. Usually, I just put in a half a cup for every 2 gallons of kraut as I'm heating it up.
Yep- and since Congress would control the wording, to some extent, they'd still be somewhat in control.
In the sci-fi novelette I stole this from, if you had money left over at the end of the list, you got to add a new category that you wanted the government to work on. The main guy in the story, who had lost several family members to war, added "Everlasting World Peace", and it attracted so much money it was accomplished within 12 months.
Voter turnout in Oregon HAS increased- but there's some question as to whether vote-at-home has helped or hindered that, we've had a lot of high-profile measures on the ballot in the last 6 years that make people want to vote anyway. Heck, Measure 36 may just eclipse the Presidential Election in causing turnout this time around. A lot of people care about marriage- even if the so-called "rights" the gays are getting are only valuable to the rich, except for the visiting people in the hospital part and that's a non-starter due to HIPPA anyway. That's why a living will is so important.
Where in Oregon, with all of the ballots being absentee, all of them get counted. We have had the problem with people going door-to-door to collect ballots, with a big question as to whether those ballots are ever turned in- but by and large there have been no problems.
This weekend is Oktoberfest! Oregon's best is in Mt Angel! If you want a really good sausage, come by the Silverton KofC booth on Saturday morning- we put beer in our kraut on my father's shift (as well as boiling the sausage in beer, yum!).
I like stouts- I can easily stay under one glass an hour with stout, and that keeps me from getting drunk going home. The best is Deschutes Brewery Obsidian- but I'll take Guiness in a pinch, and the rest go downhill from there. I also prefer my beer to be fresh- brewed on site if possible.
The darker the beer, the more good stuff it has in it and the less watered down it is. Beer is NOT about the alcohol- that's just a preservative for the rest of the ingredients. It's also not about the water (sorry Coors). It's about the grains and yeasts and barley. Now if you want the only beer better tha Guiness- go get yourself a bottle of Marmite. It's made from the stuff left over in the bottom of the Guiness barrel...
It's good for you,
We like to drink 'till we spew!
OOOH!
Who cares if we get fat?
I'll drink to that.
Oh, what is the malten liquor?
What gets you drunker quicker?
What comes in bottles or in cans?
BEER!
Working fine here- but then again, here in Oregon, women are so independant that they threatened to sue Multnomah County to be able to marry each other instead of men. The four women on the County Council got together in secret, excluding the one man- and the next day gay marriage licenses were avilable in Multnomah County.
We'll see if THAT survives the next election- Measure 36 ammends the State Constitution to forbid it- but one thing you can be sure of, no husband is presuring his wife to vote a certain way.
Tell me- do you pay property taxes for schools on that house? If you do, what is your tax bill now compared with historically? Mine went up so much that it more than swallowed the extra take home pay.
When I figured it out in comparison to how much my county & city & state had to raise local taxes to keep the schools open through unfunded federal mandates, that "big tax cut" became a "big tax raise". Story is pretty much the same in any county/state/city that isn't borrowing from the future instead- and you'll have to pay for that borrowing too in the long run, plus interest.
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Why? Seems like a stupid place for him to be- he's got a pretty strong lock there, but he's slipping in PA.
All he did was attach to an OPEN SHARE DRIVE on the Senate LAN. I would have thought this would have been cleared up months ago- Republicans apologize to Democrats, and Democrats start password protecting your share drives!
The whole thing is proof positive to me that we need a new generation in leadership of this country. These old fogies don't even understand the technology that is on their desks- how can they ever hope to understand such complex issues as why we shouldn't be letting Taiwan build all of our hardware?
But you can see why, for example, someone in ND (which hasn't seen a presidental candidate stop by in 3 election cycles) might think the EC was a bit outdated. MN and WI aren't likely to be bothered with either. You need more than 10 EVs AND be a swing voter state to get attention this round. PA, IL, and NY will be getting heavy candidate attention, but if the EV count is close, ME may be the FL of 2004. It's the closest race.
The weapons inspectors they kicked out *WERE* a condition of the cease fire.
The only people kicking the weapons inspectors out was the Bush Administration- Saddam was attempting to comply with them within the limits of his political ability. So no- that doesn't prove that Saddam was the one who violated the cease fire.
Also in 1998 I did not see crying and gnashing of teeth when Clinton used the same thing to bomb Iraq..
Because in 1998- Saddam was the one who kicked out the weapons inspectors. Also, we didn't have an incomplete more important mission in 1998 either- where in 2002 we did (and still do. Worse than that, given recent Taliban activity in Afghanistan, we seem to have failed completely at that second mission).
A process doesn't 'die' unless you tell it to.
And a human being doesn't die unless it's reached that life's natural end point OR you deny it the resources needed to survive- just like a process needs memory to survive. Deny it that memory, and you deny it life.
Secondly, a process within an operating system is a means to an end, directly or indirectly a human end at that. The operating system too. This is a basic difference. Humans are ends in themselves and not means to the end of others.
Human beings are not ends within themselves- they exist to procreate, much like any computer virus. They are a part of the greater whole of the culture, society, and species.
For one, resource allocation in an operating system is always a zero sum game. In real world economics, it is rarly so.
Really? Where are we getting the extra elements and electrons then? There's nothing in the Solar System that hasn't been there for the entire time humanity has been alive. It's a zero sum game in that there's nothing being added or subtracted- it's just that humanity is a much smaller part than we'd like to imagine ourselves to be. In the end, on a universal scale, economics IS indeed a zero sum game, always. Can't violate the 2nd law of thermodynamics indefinately.
Processes can not create new resources,
Neither can humans, we can only develop what's already here.
and they can't modify algorithms (usage of resources) to run more efficiently on their own.
Have you never written a self-modifying program? I've got plenty of programs that modify their own algorithims for more efficient resource usage on their own in my house- admitedly I use quite a bit more artificial intelligence than the average computer user, but I don't see why I should need to mess with something when the computer can mess with itself perfectly well and much faster than I can.
They can't overcome the limitations set by their creators. They can't create.
Strictly speaking, neither can human beings. There are limits on our creativity. If you don't believe me, just try to go eat a radio wave.
basic axioms are called that because they can't be proven. They are supposed to be apparant.
But they aren't very apparent. That's the whole point of thinking outside of their box. Most of them are simply myths that we accept because we were taught to- they have no real existance in and of themselves.
Nobody's bothering with either ID or ND anyway. They've only got 7 electoral votes between them, and they're both so strongly Bush that Kerry isn't even bothering to campaign there.
Just Ralph's poor Afghani Cousin....
and then violated the terms of a cease fire..
I'd point out that it's never been proven that Iraq actually violated the terms of the cease fire- only that Saddam wanted to. Intention is not equal to action, no matter how much you want it to be.
So, who gets to 'organize' the rental. In other words, how does it get done? Especially, how do you think that conflicts would be resolved. Say A and B would like to eat apple C. Who gets it and by what standard?
Why not fcfs algorithim? It works fine in Unix resource allocation, to a large extent. This gets to my second fundamental truth- economic systems are just physical world operating systems.
I am sincerely asking. Arguing is over, since our basic axioms are different. There is no way to have a discussion about 'fundamental' truths.
If you can't learn to question basic axioms, you'll never grow beyond them. That's the basic meaning behind Godel's incompleteness theorem.
The government isn't and should never be in the business of making money, competing with private industry.
And yet, we do it already in the area of package delivery- in the United States the USPO is the low cost leader in the industry, and still makes enough of a profit that they haven't required tax money in the last century. There is NO reason why the government shouldn't be competing in any national security industry. They can get workers easily among those that private industry has thrown away, and could produce cheap enough goods to effectively remove survival from being able to find work.
To kill a company is simple happens all the time: for example, when they can't make payroll.
That only hurts the workers, not the stockholders.
I'm more likely to believe the first- and that innovation will take care of the second.
You have one already. It's called the market place. If the company pisses off the public it loses a crapload of money. Even a monopoly. It's not a perfect system (nothing is) because not everyone is going to have your particular sense of right and wrong, but it does work. When e.coli was found in some Odwalla juice, it hit Odwalla very bad. It took them a long time to get back to where they were before the incident.
Losing money isn't enough- a good businessman simply sets his price high enough to cover such blips. The stockholders need to be hit, and hit hard, when businesses do bad things.
Under a true laissez-faire system, there would be no corporate liability shield for the stockholders. That's purely a govenrment granted privilege. Under laissez-faire the stockholders are responsible for the actions of their company. When Exxon dumped crude oil on the Alaskan coast, one ship pilot got fired. BFD. Under a laissez faire system every stockholder would have been liable for damages and cleanup costs. Collectively it might not amount to much for each stockholder (like your grandma with one share in your pension fund), but collectively those same stockholders are going to do a heck of a lot more to keep the company on a moral even keel, simply because they're responsible for it. It's one thing to demand stock growth at any cost when you're not accountable, but it's another when you ARE accountable.
And that's where I like laissez-faire, because THIS is a big enough stick.
Oh, your friends live in Bethleham? (Bethleham being a small, non-incorporated community near Woodburn, OR, full of Russian Orthodox believers).
Yeah, we just use a cheap amber, usually whatever we can get in the keg for cheap. Haven't thought about using the sausage beer in the kraut, it's a good idea and I'll run it by my dad to see what he thinks. Usually, I just put in a half a cup for every 2 gallons of kraut as I'm heating it up.
Yep- and since Congress would control the wording, to some extent, they'd still be somewhat in control.
In the sci-fi novelette I stole this from, if you had money left over at the end of the list, you got to add a new category that you wanted the government to work on. The main guy in the story, who had lost several family members to war, added "Everlasting World Peace", and it attracted so much money it was accomplished within 12 months.
Voter turnout in Oregon HAS increased- but there's some question as to whether vote-at-home has helped or hindered that, we've had a lot of high-profile measures on the ballot in the last 6 years that make people want to vote anyway. Heck, Measure 36 may just eclipse the Presidential Election in causing turnout this time around. A lot of people care about marriage- even if the so-called "rights" the gays are getting are only valuable to the rich, except for the visiting people in the hospital part and that's a non-starter due to HIPPA anyway. That's why a living will is so important.
Where in Oregon, with all of the ballots being absentee, all of them get counted. We have had the problem with people going door-to-door to collect ballots, with a big question as to whether those ballots are ever turned in- but by and large there have been no problems.
This weekend is Oktoberfest! Oregon's best is in Mt Angel! If you want a really good sausage, come by the Silverton KofC booth on Saturday morning- we put beer in our kraut on my father's shift (as well as boiling the sausage in beer, yum!).
I like stouts- I can easily stay under one glass an hour with stout, and that keeps me from getting drunk going home. The best is Deschutes Brewery Obsidian- but I'll take Guiness in a pinch, and the rest go downhill from there. I also prefer my beer to be fresh- brewed on site if possible.
The darker the beer, the more good stuff it has in it and the less watered down it is. Beer is NOT about the alcohol- that's just a preservative for the rest of the ingredients. It's also not about the water (sorry Coors). It's about the grains and yeasts and barley. Now if you want the only beer better tha Guiness- go get yourself a bottle of Marmite. It's made from the stuff left over in the bottom of the Guiness barrel...
Yes- if their funding had actually affected the outcome, there wouldn't have been word one about moderation in the article.
Red Grape Juice. I lack propper sources, but apparently red grape juice is just as good with the free radicals as wine was found to be.
That's because Red Grape Juice, when it's 100% juice, is just red wine that's been pasteurized to kill the yeast and boil off the alcohol.
It's good for you, We like to drink 'till we spew! OOOH! Who cares if we get fat? I'll drink to that. Oh, what is the malten liquor? What gets you drunker quicker? What comes in bottles or in cans? BEER!
Working fine here- but then again, here in Oregon, women are so independant that they threatened to sue Multnomah County to be able to marry each other instead of men. The four women on the County Council got together in secret, excluding the one man- and the next day gay marriage licenses were avilable in Multnomah County.
We'll see if THAT survives the next election- Measure 36 ammends the State Constitution to forbid it- but one thing you can be sure of, no husband is presuring his wife to vote a certain way.
Tell me- do you pay property taxes for schools on that house? If you do, what is your tax bill now compared with historically? Mine went up so much that it more than swallowed the extra take home pay.
When I figured it out in comparison to how much my county & city & state had to raise local taxes to keep the schools open through unfunded federal mandates, that "big tax cut" became a "big tax raise". Story is pretty much the same in any county/state/city that isn't borrowing from the future instead- and you'll have to pay for that borrowing too in the long run, plus interest.