I am not suggesting leaving it open and just not telling anyone. That would be crazy.
What you want to do is keep it secure as possible, but give the potential intruder something else to work on that yields no results, but increases their risk of exposure.
Security through obscurity does not automatically assume that it is a door left wide open, just no one knows about it.
Consider things that are currently unknown to the public, such as Air Force one. Only a few people know about its defenses and potential. However, they do not leave it out in the open devoid of guards and security. So therefor, including the security surrounding it, you also have obscurity of its potentials.
In fact, viruses are developed based on obscurity. I mean, it is in our everyday lives. To believe that obscurity is somehow the Achilles heel is just crazy thinking.
Well, there are many methods. One would be honeypotting, another would be and in line with the "Security through Obscurity" thinking, you have to choose which door to attack. The point being, the hacker doesnt know because of security through obscurity. What you can do is Honeypot all the other doors and know about the attempt, or setup an alert and know about the attempt.
Frankly, if it is that important to be connected to the internet, but requires high security, the cost is justified.
You can even setup a "wag the dog" approach where you let it slip that Site A is how everyone accesses things, and have a few tricks there, but site B or C is where it actually is.
My point is Security through obscurity is a valid point to be made, but under the right direction and/or policies.
The freedom for others to take away your retirement through bad investments and snakeoil salesman.
Yeah... people who were fiscally disciplined got rapped in 2008 by big business and are currently working even though they planned to be retired by now.
Well duh... We've known that for awhile. The real question is...
Who's worse? markz for building such a shitty product that treats people like crap. OR. all the millions of users who signed up for such a shitty product. And continue to use it no matter what scummyness comes to light....
I predict humanity will do well in its ventures of continued existence.
Interestingly there was a push back in 2006 by Intel to standardize the Laptop industry by making standards for cases, mobos, etc. so that they could be built by people.
If it is the case where laptops will overcome PCs, it may still happen.
Thus, these vendors will not be in as much trouble as PC manufacturers would like them to be.
Nah, they will move the lawyer jobs to India, then to China, then to some island country....
Whoops, it is already happening. Doctors on India are viewing your x-rays and diagnosing your issues. (I know this to be true because I helped set it up.)
But anyways, just look at low paying unskilled jobs now.... robots did not take over like the article seems to indicate, nope... instead they went to China, where you work in a building and rent a refrigerator box in another from the same company you work for. It is still cheaper than robots.
I can tell you that some will pigeonhole, others will bring you in and ask you questions. They will ask you questions based on your knowledge of whatever language they need, if you know them you will be fine, if you dont due to being out of practice... you will not be fine.
It sure is great Corporatization took over the interwebs, now not only do we have the government spying on our packets, we have corporations wanting to know what we do as well.
To be fair, patents do help companies recoup their costs, but the length of patents, especially in the tech industry is not realistic.
Perhaps what you are talking about are "method patents", or software patents. And yes, those are the worst technical innovation inhibitors ever produced by the United States of Corporate America.
They also pay people to tell the government to bail them out through tax loopholes, tax breaks, and other means.
To be fair, the government is not exactly happy that a company that employs so many directly and many more indirectly is faltering, but what else can they do to prevent this huge job market loss?
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So once someone gets your password, the access is granted?
So how is this different?
I am not suggesting leaving it open and just not telling anyone. That would be crazy.
What you want to do is keep it secure as possible, but give the potential intruder something else to work on that yields no results, but increases their risk of exposure.
Security through obscurity does not automatically assume that it is a door left wide open, just no one knows about it.
Consider things that are currently unknown to the public, such as Air Force one. Only a few people know about its defenses and potential. However, they do not leave it out in the open devoid of guards and security. So therefor, including the security surrounding it, you also have obscurity of its potentials.
Do you understand the thinking now?
Exactly.
In fact, viruses are developed based on obscurity. I mean, it is in our everyday lives. To believe that obscurity is somehow the Achilles heel is just crazy thinking.
Hahah, good point.
Although these days CA authorities are becoming the weak link.
They will have to rethink centralized security, big time.
Well, there are many methods. One would be honeypotting, another would be and in line with the "Security through Obscurity" thinking, you have to choose which door to attack. The point being, the hacker doesnt know because of security through obscurity. What you can do is Honeypot all the other doors and know about the attempt, or setup an alert and know about the attempt.
Frankly, if it is that important to be connected to the internet, but requires high security, the cost is justified.
You can even setup a "wag the dog" approach where you let it slip that Site A is how everyone accesses things, and have a few tricks there, but site B or C is where it actually is.
My point is Security through obscurity is a valid point to be made, but under the right direction and/or policies.
This isnt Rook >
There is another way to look at this.
Imagine you have gold behind a locked door. Now imagine you have 50 locked doors.
This is your security through obscurity.
So.... I guess free market doesnt work like some sort of magical fixer.
It must be the Governments fault for all its oversight and "rules"... those bastards! o.O
I received an email just last night to opt out of data mining and ads on my cel phone from Verizon Wireless.
I of course, took them up on the offer and noted that you must do this for any new cel phone # you have on your account.
I too thought of book shelves made of ice that last for 6 years...
curse you subject lines of irony!
The freedom for others to take away your retirement through bad investments and snakeoil salesman.
Yeah... people who were fiscally disciplined got rapped in 2008 by big business and are currently working even though they planned to be retired by now.
Well duh... We've known that for awhile. The real question is...
Who's worse? markz for building such a shitty product that treats people like crap. OR. all the millions of users who signed up for such a shitty product. And continue to use it no matter what scummyness comes to light....
I predict humanity will do well in its ventures of continued existence.
Interestingly there was a push back in 2006 by Intel to standardize the Laptop industry by making standards for cases, mobos, etc. so that they could be built by people.
If it is the case where laptops will overcome PCs, it may still happen.
Thus, these vendors will not be in as much trouble as PC manufacturers would like them to be.
What.. they didnt have cameras back then or books in which to print them?
What is this crazy mishegas?!?!
The Law is Black and white anyways... I mean how much more True/False can you get?
Nah, they will move the lawyer jobs to India, then to China, then to some island country....
Whoops, it is already happening. Doctors on India are viewing your x-rays and diagnosing your issues. (I know this to be true because I helped set it up.)
But anyways, just look at low paying unskilled jobs now.... robots did not take over like the article seems to indicate, nope... instead they went to China, where you work in a building and rent a refrigerator box in another from the same company you work for. It is still cheaper than robots.
I can tell you that some will pigeonhole, others will bring you in and ask you questions. They will ask you questions based on your knowledge of whatever language they need, if you know them you will be fine, if you dont due to being out of practice... you will not be fine.
You think just Facebook is doing this?
Perhaps you should see what your ISP is doing.
It sure is great Corporatization took over the interwebs, now not only do we have the government spying on our packets, we have corporations wanting to know what we do as well.
WOOOWOOO!
Ass logs can get pretty big.
I just dont know if I want to be the one sifting through the logs to find kernels of information.
Yeah, I was thinking that too.
It almost seems hyped, but the media would never do that, right?
Or Joe Sixpack... I dont have a sixpack... I have a keg, jerk!
WoWs troll quota is filled for the day.
He was waiting at Home Depot for the job, but they didn't take him.
To be fair, patents do help companies recoup their costs, but the length of patents, especially in the tech industry is not realistic.
Perhaps what you are talking about are "method patents", or software patents. And yes, those are the worst technical innovation inhibitors ever produced by the United States of Corporate America.
They also pay people to tell the government to bail them out through tax loopholes, tax breaks, and other means.
To be fair, the government is not exactly happy that a company that employs so many directly and many more indirectly is faltering, but what else can they do to prevent this huge job market loss?