it seems silly to complain about all these IPO's sprouting up left and right (With even Andover going for IPO!), I know if I were them I'd try to cash in on this IPO-mania for all it's worth. It may seem to us to be a whole lot of jumping on the bandwagon, but it's just business.
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I've been getting an overwhelming attitude among geek guys recently that women geeks are just a toy like their new 21 inch moniotr. with a "Where can I buy my own?" attitude. You guys go on about petrifying whatever female geek catches your fancy for the day, you talk about 'creating' your own linux nerd, you suggest female geeks as great beowulf clusters, you say "I wish I could show her my box, heh heh heh". You guys pride yourselves on your intelligence, and you want to be respected for your mind, well so do I. Geek respect is earned, no matter what gender you are, and you're never going to find a female geek if you can't give her the basic respect you'd give any other geek.
But just when you thought I was going to bash men my whole comment, let me say: Women are worse. They whine that there aren't enough women in management, that they can't get along with the male geeks, blah blah blah. Damn, get over it! I can get along with geek guys just fine, and so can you if you just stop thinking it as "us" vs "them". As I said before, respect is earned, and you're not going to earn any respect by talk instead of action. Oh yeah, and girls, if you're fat and ugly, stop trying to convince the guys that just because you're a lardball that all of the rest of us are too. "Don't expect us to be barbies!"
You'll never find any self respecting female geek in a group like "linux chix", for one, by this time they've gotten so used to male company that they often prefer guys to women, they don't want to talk about "how can we get more girls into computers! (I like having no competition), and they don't give a damn about how there aren't enough women in management. Don't try to look for us in groups like "nrrdgrrl.com" either. I can't stand that name, and besides, the whole board is about 13 year old girls complaining "Booh hooh! I'm so fat! I'm so ugly! I want to kill myself!" I really have a hard time resisting giving them some encouragement, heather style.
On a final note: As the Misanthropic Bitch says when people ask you "How can you be a woman and think the way you do?", "How could anyone but a woman think like me? Men rarely see the nuts and bolts of womanhood. I see it on a daily basis, and I'm expected to behave in a similar fashion because of my gender. Nothing can make one a misogynist faster than being born a woman. "
Well, since so many slashdotters are bothered by their inability to find their very own geek girls (TM) - I think Malda should post a list with all girls on slashdot (where else would the geek girls hang out?) complete with emails so everyone can choose his own geek girl:)
How would you like it if Rob sold your email addresses to Microsoft spammers? Every day, mail saying "buy windows!" That would be just as bad as anyone trying to gather a list of female slashdot readers for your "choosing". Every day I'd open up my mailbox with "duh huh huh, can I have a picture" when I have to get/real/ work done. You will never find anything resembling a geek girl with that sort of attitude. It is a sick mind who thinks that girls should be just lined up for the choosing.
I don't know about everybody else, but I like moderation. It allows me to skim through articles looking at stuff in the 3+ range so I can catch the major points very quickly. Without moderation, I have to wade through offtopic, irrelevant, redundant, and just plain wrong information. I, and many other readers, are not experts in all subjects, and so we need knowledgable moderators to separate the fact from the fluff.
Although I do appreciate all the time you've spent coding in all this crazy moderation stuff, rob, I am somewhat concerned about some things.
A large portion of comments deserve no more or no less than the 1 (or 0 for AC's) that they get.. when you only display moderation controls on only part of the coments, almost all the comments with controls won't really be deserving of a moderation up or a moderation down. I think when this happens, some moderators, esp. the new ones will be just "itchy" to spend their points on something before they go away, and will moderate all the posts they can, regardless of whether they are deserving. (I may be wrong on this though)
What I feel might be a better solution than only having the moderation controls on a few of the comments.. Have a lot of moderators with only 1 or 2 points so your exampled Gnome bigot won't be able to moderate down all the KDE comments he sees , yet the "good" moderators will still be able to put the deserved -1 on those "Let's petrify nitrozac and hump her leg" posts.
So you're saying that females can't be geeks, and can't have any intelligence when it comes to technology? Pathetic.
I don't know where you're looking in the radical hair style changes department, but IMHO it looks pretty consistent to me.
I'm female. I can tell you that I wouldn't want my face showing up on the comic, and also showing bits of knees and bits of boots really pushes up the resident obsessive component of the geek male personality, which she seems to enjoy.
The guys have something to drool over (the techno talking babes and Nitrozac herself!) Nitrozac has to give her female viewers something to enjoy occasionally.
What do you think of the Nitrozac Boot Squad? Does it sometimes worry you having all these pale and pasty geeks with flabby bottoms with fetishes for your feet? (And knees, and hands, and hair)
Do you get a lot of slack for running a Mac? Have you any plans to switch to Linux soon?
Do you consider yourself a techno-talking babe? Where did you get the idea for the techno-talking babes, are they based on anyone you know, or did you just make them up?
When are you going to have more comics of Linus Torvalds back on there? Mm..
Many people seem to assume that the article is saying that all geeks are autistic. Not by any stretch of the imagination. The article is just trying to explain some of the geeks. Geeks like me.
It wasn't until recently that I realized that I can't get along with people because I am deaf to almost all forms of body language. I can't catch all the subtle hints that people drop all over the place, I just never notice it. I love Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time series so much because he details all those little nuances in words that I would never ever catch in real life. Because of that that series of books, and a few others, seem more real than real life to me.
I've never been able to make smalltalk. It wasn't until recently that I've been able to train myself to make programmed responses to the everyday "Hi, how are you?" "How was your weekend". So on and so forth. I have to think about these responses before otherwise I'm utterly flabbergasted. Even now I'm not quite sure if I'm making the right responses, I'm making an effort to observe other people making that kind of smalltalk so I can see what they do.
I only feel at home talking when I'm talking online, or with very close friends and family. Online I have time to think about what they said, and there is no subtlties in expression that I would have to try to puzzle out. With my two friends and my close family I know them so well that I can make an educated guess at what they're expressing nonverbally.
Like the programmer, I cannot empathize, and I cannot understand empathy or understanding directed towards me. I, too feel that they're "invading my mind". I consistently score the lowest possible score on the "introverted" scale of whatever test I'm taking. So much of what I think I don't think anyone else in the world can understand, and I guard anything I write like a hawk. I don't even let my boyfriend (yes, I'm female) in on what I think most of the time, for fear that he, too will invade my mind. Like Bill Gates (Gasp! I'm comparing myself to bill gates!) I avoid eye contact at all costs.
I've never been coordinated. My rhythm is horrible. Remember that Volkswagen commercial where they're driving down the alley and everything is going to the beat of the music? I didn't understand it at all, even after seeing it several dozen times, until someone pointed out to me that everything is actually moving the beat.
A few things in the article didn't match up with me. I don't rock, but I do compuslivley fiddle with my hair, my pencil, or whatever's sitting on my desk (I have a flexure with me now that I'm playing with when not typing). However, enough things did make sense that it gave me the heebiejeebies.
It obviously means Rob has a higher pecking order than Justin, because one of the higher-uppers chose Rob's post with its myriad offtopic posts and whooped Justin's post to the Slashdot Story Hell.
In the August 1999 issue of playboy there was a story by Ian Watson about his work with Stanley Kubrick on the movie AI. Interesting read really, and gives more details about the movie. (A robotic boy, his talking bear, and buddy gigolo robot caretaker.. not my cup of tea, but whatever floats your boat)
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Yes, a huge market for linux laptops - but for old 486's.
Why? 486's run Linux great, but Windows 9X really, really lousy. Both 486's and Linux do what you need them to do, seems a perfect match for me. They're in the right price range for younger geeks still in school, and they're old, so hardware is more likely to be supported, and they're (for the most part) pre-winmmodems.
I know I just got ahold of a Compaq 486/75 and I'm going to put linux on it and use it for my C++ coding at school.
to have the moderation controls always visible, but I think if people thought there was a large chance that they weren't really moderators it would lead to random clicking which would just mess everyone else up.
My calculator has better graphics and a faster processor than gameboys. My brother's Sega Game Gear has better graphics, and my old 486 laptop is more useful. Why would I want to buy one of these game boys?
I don't think I'm going to be the only one not interested.. the people with the money for a cellphone are going to be using their palm pilots or laptops to get their email, why would they want to waste their money on something with the screen the size of a postage stamp and the processing power of a Dorito?
> Online, cruelty and hostility are points of > pride, civility and respect rare virtues.
>> heh. shut up katz. you're a fucking idiot.
Nice one sunshine. Maybe Jon's got a point.
Respect is earned, on the internet more so than anywhere else. Many see Katz as a poser, and so they give him no respect. Others respect him and his writing. That's just life. If katz is tired of people being mean to him, well either he should change or get used to it.
Do they have the guts to cut the show after Duchovny leaves? You guys may think you want the X-Files to go on forever, but do we really want the thing continuing on forever as some mutant spawn like the show "Sliders"? Sliders used to be good, but everyone save Rembrandt left.. now they have a couple of twinkies in their place and walking through their parts.
Scully and Mulder without the Mulder just isn't the same.
God. the Associates are worse. They keep trying to sell me life insurance "to protect my family". This is for the credit card I signed up for at college.. tell me, how many college students really NEED life insurance?
Not all of us who are going to a community college before transferring to Cal Poly couldn't get in. I could get in any time I wanted to..but Cuesta or Hancock are cheaper by far, and closer to home for me at least.
It's not that people are changing their browsing habits, rather it's both the fact that people are spending longer online (thus having more time to go check out After Y2K or Slashdot) rather than just getting on to get a specific peice of information and also because the huge influx of newbies who want to go see all these sites they hear talked about.
Imagine someone getting their first television set. They want to see 'friends' and 'ER' and all the shows that are popular that everyone talks about. After doing that, then they move to cable and check out lesser known shows on The Discovery Channel or the Sci Fi channel. Just as the popular shows on TV just get more and more popular even while more and more cable channels are being added with more and more different shows, websites on the internet are becoming more popular while it's still expanding.
How much of the "punk hacker" image you displayed to bunim-murray was what you really thought/were and how much of it was just trying to be something different to get more of a chance to get on the show?
Why do you think that everyone on/. and the rest of the world hates you? Do you think the "jerk" portrayal they did on RR was somewaht accurate or did they really make you out to be something you weren't?
Do you think doing the show was worth it? Was it just worth it for the places you got to go and the things you got to do and/or was it worth it because of the lovely, friendly people you got to spend every waking hour with?
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it seems silly to complain about all these IPO's sprouting up left and right (With even Andover going for IPO!), I know if I were them I'd try to cash in on this IPO-mania for all it's worth. It may seem to us to be a whole lot of jumping on the bandwagon, but it's just business.
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You mean there's people out there who don't think Rob and Jeff are hot?
I've been getting an overwhelming attitude among geek guys recently that women geeks are just a toy like their new 21 inch moniotr. with a "Where can I buy my own?" attitude. You guys go on about petrifying whatever female geek catches your fancy for the day, you talk about 'creating' your own linux nerd, you suggest female geeks as great beowulf clusters, you say "I wish I could show her my box, heh heh heh". You guys pride yourselves on your intelligence, and you want to be respected for your mind, well so do I. Geek respect is earned, no matter what gender you are, and you're never going to find a female geek if you can't give her the basic respect you'd give any other geek.
But just when you thought I was going to bash men my whole comment, let me say: Women are worse. They whine that there aren't enough women in management, that they can't get along with the male geeks, blah blah blah. Damn, get over it! I can get along with geek guys just fine, and so can you if you just stop thinking it as "us" vs "them". As I said before, respect is earned, and you're not going to earn any respect by talk instead of action. Oh yeah, and girls, if you're fat and ugly, stop trying to convince the guys that just because you're a lardball that all of the rest of us are too. "Don't expect us to be barbies!"
You'll never find any self respecting female geek in a group like "linux chix", for one, by this time they've gotten so used to male company that they often prefer guys to women, they don't want to talk about "how can we get more girls into computers! (I like having no competition), and they don't give a damn about how there aren't enough women in management. Don't try to look for us in groups like "nrrdgrrl.com" either. I can't stand that name, and besides, the whole board is about 13 year old girls complaining "Booh hooh! I'm so fat! I'm so ugly! I want to kill myself!" I really have a hard time resisting giving them some encouragement, heather style.
On a final note: As the Misanthropic Bitch says when people ask you "How can you be a woman and think the way you do?", "How could anyone but a woman think like me? Men rarely see the nuts and bolts of womanhood. I see it on a daily basis, and I'm expected to behave in a similar fashion because of my gender. Nothing can make one a misogynist faster than being born a woman. "
Well, since so many slashdotters are bothered by their inability to find their very own geek girls (TM) - I think Malda should post a list with all
girls on slashdot (where else would the geek girls hang out?) complete with emails so everyone can choose his own geek girl
How would you like it if Rob sold your email addresses to Microsoft spammers? Every day, mail saying "buy windows!" That would be just as bad as anyone trying to gather a list of female slashdot readers for your "choosing". Every day I'd open up my mailbox with "duh huh huh, can I have a picture" when I have to get
I don't know about everybody else, but I like moderation. It allows me to skim through articles looking at stuff in the 3+ range so I can catch the major points very quickly. Without moderation, I have to wade through offtopic, irrelevant, redundant, and just plain wrong information. I, and many other readers, are not experts in all subjects, and so we need knowledgable moderators to separate the fact from the fluff.
Although I do appreciate all the time you've spent coding in all this crazy moderation stuff, rob, I am somewhat concerned about some things.
A large portion of comments deserve no more or no less than the 1 (or 0 for AC's) that they get.. when you only display moderation controls on only part of the coments, almost all the comments with controls won't really be deserving of a moderation up or a moderation down. I think when this happens, some moderators, esp. the new ones will be just "itchy" to spend their points on something before they go away, and will moderate all the posts they can, regardless of whether they are deserving. (I may be wrong on this though)
What I feel might be a better solution than only having the moderation controls on a few of the comments.. Have a lot of moderators with only 1 or 2 points so your exampled Gnome bigot won't be able to moderate down all the KDE comments he sees , yet the "good" moderators will still be able to put the deserved -1 on those "Let's petrify nitrozac and hump her leg" posts.
So you're saying that females can't be geeks, and can't have any intelligence when it comes to technology? Pathetic.
I don't know where you're looking in the radical hair style changes department, but IMHO it looks pretty consistent to me.
I'm female. I can tell you that I wouldn't want my face showing up on the comic, and also showing bits of knees and bits of boots really pushes up the resident obsessive component of the geek male personality, which she seems to enjoy.
The guys have something to drool over (the techno talking babes and Nitrozac herself!) Nitrozac has to give her female viewers something to enjoy occasionally.
What do you think of the Nitrozac Boot Squad? Does it sometimes worry you having all these pale and pasty geeks with flabby bottoms with fetishes for your feet? (And knees, and hands, and hair)
Do you get a lot of slack for running a Mac? Have you any plans to switch to Linux soon?
Do you consider yourself a techno-talking babe? Where did you get the idea for the techno-talking babes, are they based on anyone you know, or did you just make them up?
When are you going to have more comics of Linus Torvalds back on there? Mm..
Many people seem to assume that the article is saying that all geeks are autistic. Not by any stretch of the imagination. The article is just trying to explain some of the geeks. Geeks like me.
It wasn't until recently that I realized that I can't get along with people because I am deaf to almost all forms of body language. I can't catch all the subtle hints that people drop all over the place, I just never notice it. I love Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time series so much because he details all those little nuances in words that I would never ever catch in real life. Because of that that series of books, and a few others, seem more real than real life to me.
I've never been able to make smalltalk. It wasn't until recently that I've been able to train myself to make programmed responses to the everyday "Hi, how are you?" "How was your weekend". So on and so forth. I have to think about these responses before otherwise I'm utterly flabbergasted. Even now I'm not quite sure if I'm making the right responses, I'm making an effort to observe other people making that kind of smalltalk so I can see what they do.
I only feel at home talking when I'm talking online, or with very close friends and family. Online I have time to think about what they said, and there is no subtlties in expression that I would have to try to puzzle out. With my two friends and my close family I know them so well that I can make an educated guess at what they're expressing nonverbally.
Like the programmer, I cannot empathize, and I cannot understand empathy or understanding directed towards me. I, too feel that they're "invading my mind". I consistently score the lowest possible score on the "introverted" scale of whatever test I'm taking. So much of what I think I don't think anyone else in the world can understand, and I guard anything I write like a hawk. I don't even let my boyfriend (yes, I'm female) in on what I think most of the time, for fear that he, too will invade my mind. Like Bill Gates (Gasp! I'm comparing myself to bill gates!) I avoid eye contact at all costs.
I've never been coordinated. My rhythm is horrible. Remember that Volkswagen commercial where they're driving down the alley and everything is going to the beat of the music? I didn't understand it at all, even after seeing it several dozen times, until someone pointed out to me that everything is actually moving the beat.
A few things in the article didn't match up with me. I don't rock, but I do compuslivley fiddle with my hair, my pencil, or whatever's sitting on my desk (I have a flexure with me now that I'm playing with when not typing). However, enough things did make sense that it gave me the heebiejeebies.
It obviously means Rob has a higher pecking order than Justin, because one of the higher-uppers chose Rob's post with its myriad offtopic posts and whooped Justin's post to the Slashdot Story Hell.
In the August 1999 issue of playboy there was a story by Ian Watson about his work with Stanley Kubrick on the movie AI. Interesting read really, and gives more details about the movie. (A robotic boy, his talking bear, and buddy gigolo robot caretaker.. not my cup of tea, but whatever floats your boat)
Yes, a huge market for linux laptops - but for old 486's.
Why? 486's run Linux great, but Windows 9X really, really lousy. Both 486's and Linux do what you need them to do, seems a perfect match for me. They're in the right price range for younger geeks still in school, and they're old, so hardware is more likely to be supported, and they're (for the most part) pre-winmmodems.
I know I just got ahold of a Compaq 486/75 and I'm going to put linux on it and use it for my C++ coding at school.
to have the moderation controls always visible, but I think if people thought there was a large chance that they weren't really moderators it would lead to random clicking which would just mess everyone else up.
My calculator has better graphics and a faster processor than gameboys. My brother's Sega Game Gear has better graphics, and my old 486 laptop is more useful. Why would I want to buy one of these game boys?
I don't think I'm going to be the only one not interested.. the people with the money for a cellphone are going to be using their palm pilots or laptops to get their email, why would they want to waste their money on something with the screen the size of a postage stamp and the processing power of a Dorito?
Respect is earned, on the internet more so than anywhere else. Many see Katz as a poser, and so they give him no respect. Others respect him and his writing. That's just life. If katz is tired of people being mean to him, well either he should change or get used to it.
Do they have the guts to cut the show after Duchovny leaves? You guys may think you want the X-Files to go on forever, but do we really want the thing continuing on forever as some mutant spawn like the show "Sliders"? Sliders used to be good, but everyone save Rembrandt left.. now they have a couple of twinkies in their place and walking through their parts.
Scully and Mulder without the Mulder just isn't the same.
Looks like someone forgot something.
God. the Associates are worse.
They keep trying to sell me life insurance "to protect my family". This is for the credit card I signed up for at college.. tell me, how many college students really NEED life insurance?
Not all of us who are going to a community college before transferring to Cal Poly couldn't get in. I could get in any time I wanted to..but Cuesta or Hancock are cheaper by far, and closer to home for me at least.
BMP = Bunim-Murray Productions, I'd assume
It's not that people are changing their browsing habits, rather it's both the fact that people are spending longer online (thus having more time to go check out After Y2K or Slashdot) rather than just getting on to get a specific peice of information and also because the huge influx of newbies who want to go see all these sites they hear talked about.
Imagine someone getting their first television set. They want to see 'friends' and 'ER' and all the shows that are popular that everyone talks about. After doing that, then they move to cable and check out lesser known shows on The Discovery Channel or the Sci Fi channel. Just as the popular shows on TV just get more and more popular even while more and more cable channels are being added with more and more different shows, websites on the internet are becoming more popular while it's still expanding.
How much of the "punk hacker" image you displayed to bunim-murray was what you really thought/were and how much of it was just trying to be something different to get more of a chance to get on the show?
/. and the rest of the world hates you? Do you think the "jerk" portrayal they did on RR was somewaht accurate or did they really make you out to be something you weren't?
Why do you think that everyone on
Do you think doing the show was worth it? Was it just worth it for the places you got to go and the things you got to do and/or was it worth it because of the lovely, friendly people you got to spend every waking hour with?
Everyone seems to get extremely hight openess (yoda) and very low neuroticism... but not me!
Openness: Admiral Akbar (low: 20 percentile)
Conscientious: Grand Moff Tarkin (neither high nor low: 41 percentile)
Extraversion: Wampas (very low: 4 percentile)
Agreeableness: Emperor Palpatine (very low: 1 percentile)
Neuroticism: C3P0 (high: 66 percentile)