yeah i personally dunnot need an fritz chip. cauze it's my hardware. so i can do with it what i want, if i want rto throw it out of the window i can. if i want to have tcpa i can, but i dunnot wan't. I' going over to PPC processors this year.cauze intel with the "customized instruction set" home use
on my opinion ms just want's marked share , as usual. and trust me i can live without a ms system @home , i dunnot need the fancy micky-clicky things and super secure data,as promised by palladium , ah and no virrii
for buissense users i see 2 kind of users American's and the rest of the world -Buiseness as usual- while americans have fritz hollings bill which makes it non-optional to sell non-tcpa hardware in the united states. and the rest of the world which mostly means, if Buissenes Case is big enough , we use PKI n cipher boxes just pure data managbility/recovery/migration n so on.
u dunnot give trust to someone u don't trust.
or as seen in the last past day's if someone calls u OLD EUROPE, why should u do that ? so all big pki solutions are private one's in a company or a sub-company of an holding is managing the pki for the company.
i guess also that's the ideear behind PKI.
for me the whole thing about enabling tcpa is an govermental affair -fritz hollings bill- all further techhnologie build on such a set is commercial one.
i mean think about the size , every desktop has such an chip. so for software vendors it's an easy ground to build up alliances with vertical markets and deploy an propietary protocol. and it's an good cash-cow. cause it's security based on the machine not on the user as most user's in company's are roaming.
tcpa will be an enabler for machine based security.
so the only scenario is see for machine based security , are home-users with one machine, mobile Phones, Smart-Devices as the the coffe machine that surfes the internet for your millions of millions of coffe flavors , that will bring man kind to an definitive *über*position. and game-devices like xbox,sony,nintendo.
as for govermental use i dunnot think that goverments will trust per default.That would be absolutly blue-eyed if someone thinks that. I dunnot even think any goverment will use palladium,cauze of trust. maybe tcpa but with own system's running on top so each goverment has it's own linux distro , but they need to build an own trust system based on that. and have to think about data-recovery/managibilty/migration which will be a pain in the ass with *machine* key on the chip.
of caurse the tcpa chip itself, doesen't evolve such scenarios per se, but it's an enabler. that as an defined API which is under the GPL IT MUST BE UNDER GPL CAUSE OF FRITZ HOLLINGS BILL so nobody should only think of to say, that we made it just GPL for *u* And its on every machine selled.
So technicly the tcpa chip, is a little tiny thing which isen't evil.
technicly nuclear fusion is also a little tiny thing which isen't evil.
in switzerland u have an govermental division which is called * Swiss Federal Data Protection Commissioner* or http://www.edsb.ch/e/aktuell/index.htm ( in englisch )
So a little snippet out of "e.mail use @ the working place"//snip When an employee feels that he has been controlled by the employer in an impermissible manner, he can take civil action against the employer for violation of personal rights. Pursuant to penal law the employee proceeds against the employer before the competent authorities on grounds of violation of privacy or unauthorised acquisition of personal data. As a rule he goes to the police to file charges.//snip
so we also have no identifier unique, which allows a person's cyber or govermental tracks be followed 100 % ).
as sample (germany has it also) a provider ISP is allowed to store connection data up to 30 day's , which is the period which are used to make the bill's, the bill data itself must be stored 10 year's, but the connection data ( mac/ip/referer) 30 Day's, if a provider give's out such data,he can be sued by law.
so there was a case when german T-Online ISP has deliver 80 day's old data without an law case, so now there where sued by the data commisioner, n pay penalty.
so u can be shure that the data commisionier will do anything that data cannot be tracked, or stored too long.
This is also a reason, why u have a serial number on normal snail-mail for the vote. if there's a Certificate it would not be possible, exactly if the same certificate would used multiple times, the vote system would not be allowed..., or let's say if you're votes where trackeable , you'd could not vote per internet.
cypher box , does it , i dunnot needt cipher speed on my laptop , or do i ?,yeah probably i wan't to make out of my laptop a mission critical server...
what u think about the international issues of enabling tcpa in your products ?
i know that if senator fritz hollings bill is accepted by america u (ami, n other vendors) have to incooperate tcpa in your products. when u dunnot wanna get in jail.
so what u think will be the reaction of the rest of the world, let's say europe,asia-pacific. i don't think ( just me ) it could be a great value to your company cause the laws in europe are totally different. and i don't think it's an goal of european. asia-pacific goverments to switch to an trusted enviroment, as long as the trust isen't in their own control.
i can understand that palladium and tcpa are two different technologies, and palladium is more on the drm/licencing (thnx lucky green) side as on the trusted site.
but i dunnot see an advantage over an pki solution
i don't think european home-users are very enlighted about this step. as home user u don't need that security, for what ( that 4 letter's and some porn site u surf, no never )
for small-medium company's @least in europe it MAY be a way to go.(cause pki is sooo difficult), and maybe the buy the 10 new server's which is their infrastructure.
for big company's there's is no way to migrate such a thing, cause u're mainframes won't be trusted ( in the palladium sense ) so maybe some r&d departments ( which allready use pki ) could make something out of it. but if whinWhatever ( longorn ) uses external trust , why should they do it ?
so wth...
so the copyright protection laws are also slighty in an other sense than america.
i personally think it will be a win-win situation for linux here ( cause of palladium (winWhatever, migrating trusted data when it's encyphered with trusted private key on the f#### chip and you'r os NUB )
how u wanna migrate such stuff, if that box isen't trusted anymore, n u're os key is on the blacklist ? )
and u don't even have the os NUB when by accident some box is untrusted and u must recover the data.
i think it should be a cash cow for mickey-clickey s,iira,dmca and other stupidity's
i mean as european im very delighted about that, that tcpa is soo secure , but its illegal for americans to patch the red-hat security patches
instead u'll have too enable tcpa, u're data will be harder to migrate, the drm stuff will make live much more easyier, we have no dcma so we do not get in jail if we programm interoperable programm's. and maybe, maybe the next big software distro will not be red-hat , maybe it will LSB ( suse , mandrake , connectiva ) , but this may be illegal for u too use (just joking , but u never know );)
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*mpfff*
kewl choice
the first thing is to install *next generation WhatEver* on any box
yeah i personally dunnot need an fritz chip. cauze it's my hardware. so i can do with it what i want, if i want rto throw it out of the window i can. if i want to have tcpa i can, but i dunnot wan't.
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,cauze of trust. maybe tcpa but with own system's running on top so each goverment has it's own linux distro , but they need to build an own trust system based on that. and have to think about data-recovery/managibilty/migration which will be a pain in the ass with *machine* key on the chip .
I' going over to PPC processors this year.cauze intel with the "customized instruction set"
home use
on my opinion ms just want's marked share , as usual. and trust me i can live without a ms system @home , i dunnot need the fancy micky-clicky things and super secure data,as promised by palladium , ah and no virrii
for buissense users i see 2 kind of users American's and the rest of the world -Buiseness as usual- while americans have fritz hollings bill which makes it non-optional to sell non-tcpa hardware in the united states. and the rest of the world which mostly means, if Buissenes Case is big enough , we use PKI n cipher boxes just pure data managbility/recovery/migration n so on.
u dunnot give trust to someone u don't trust.
or as seen in the last past day's if someone calls u OLD EUROPE, why should u do that ?
so all big pki solutions are private one's in a company or a sub-company of an holding is managing the pki for the company.
i guess also that's the ideear behind PKI.
for me the whole thing about enabling tcpa is an govermental affair -fritz hollings bill- all further techhnologie build on such a set is commercial one.
i mean think about the size , every desktop has such an chip. so for software vendors it's an easy ground to build up alliances with vertical markets and deploy an propietary protocol. and it's an good cash-cow. cause it's security based on the machine not on the user as most user's in company's are roaming
tcpa will be an enabler for machine based security.
so the only scenario is see for machine based security , are home-users with one machine, mobile Phones, Smart-Devices as the the coffe machine that surfes the internet for your millions of millions of coffe flavors , that will bring man kind to an definitive *über*position.
and game-devices like xbox,sony,nintendo.
as for govermental use i dunnot think that goverments will trust per default.That would be absolutly blue-eyed if someone thinks that.
I dunnot even think any goverment will use palladium
of caurse the tcpa chip itself, doesen't evolve such scenarios per se, but it's an enabler. that as an defined API which is under the GPL IT MUST BE UNDER GPL CAUSE OF FRITZ HOLLINGS BILL
so nobody should only think of to say, that we made it just GPL for *u*
And its on every machine selled.
So technicly the tcpa chip, is a little tiny thing which isen't evil.
technicly nuclear fusion is also a little tiny thing which isen't evil.
in switzerland u have an govermental division which is called * Swiss Federal Data Protection Commissioner*
//snip //snip
or http://www.edsb.ch/e/aktuell/index.htm ( in englisch )
So a little snippet out of "e.mail use @ the working place"
When an employee feels that he has been controlled by the employer in an impermissible manner, he can take civil action against the employer for violation of personal rights. Pursuant to penal law the employee proceeds against the employer before the competent authorities on grounds of violation of privacy or unauthorised acquisition of personal data. As a rule he goes to the police to file charges.
so we also have no identifier unique, which allows a person's cyber or govermental tracks be followed 100 % ).
as sample (germany has it also) a provider ISP is allowed to store connection data up to 30 day's , which is the period which are used to make the bill's, the bill data itself must be stored 10 year's, but the connection data ( mac/ip/referer) 30 Day's, if a provider give's out such data,he can be sued by law.
so there was a case when german T-Online ISP has deliver 80 day's old data without an law case, so now there where sued by the data commisioner, n pay penalty.
so u can be shure that the data commisionier will do anything that data cannot be tracked, or stored too long.
This is also a reason, why u have a serial number on normal snail-mail for the vote. if there's a Certificate it would not be possible, exactly if the same certificate would used multiple times, the vote system would not be allowed..., or let's say if you're votes where trackeable , you'd could not vote per internet.
what for a ghetto , it's switzerland ...
cypher box , does it , i dunnot needt cipher speed on my laptop , or do i ? ,yeah probably i wan't to make out of my laptop a mission critical server ...
what u think about the international issues of enabling tcpa in your products ?
;)
i know that if senator fritz hollings bill is accepted by america u (ami, n other vendors) have to incooperate tcpa in your products.
when u dunnot wanna get in jail.
so what u think will be the reaction of the rest of the world, let's say europe,asia-pacific. i don't think ( just me ) it could be a great value to your company cause the laws in europe are totally different. and i don't think it's an goal of european. asia-pacific goverments to switch to an trusted enviroment, as long as the trust isen't in their own control.
i can understand that palladium and tcpa are two different technologies, and palladium is more on the drm/licencing (thnx lucky green) side as on the trusted site.
but i dunnot see an advantage over an pki solution
i don't think european home-users are very enlighted about this step.
as home user u don't need that security, for what ( that 4 letter's and some porn site u surf, no never )
for small-medium company's @least in europe it MAY be a way to go.(cause pki is sooo difficult), and maybe the buy the 10 new server's which is their infrastructure.
for big company's there's is no way to migrate such a thing, cause u're mainframes won't be trusted ( in the palladium sense )
so maybe some r&d departments ( which allready use pki ) could make something out of it. but if whinWhatever ( longorn ) uses external trust , why should they do it ?
so wth...
so the copyright protection laws are also slighty in an other sense than america.
i personally think it will be a win-win situation for linux here ( cause of palladium (winWhatever, migrating trusted data when it's encyphered with trusted private key on the f#### chip and you'r os NUB )
how u wanna migrate such stuff, if that box isen't trusted anymore, n u're os key is on the blacklist ? )
and u don't even have the os NUB when by accident some box is untrusted and u must recover the data.
i think it should be a cash cow for mickey-clickey s,iira,dmca and other stupidity's
i mean
as european im very delighted about that, that tcpa is soo secure , but its illegal for americans to patch the red-hat security patches
instead u'll have too enable tcpa, u're data will be harder to migrate, the drm stuff will make live much more easyier, we have no dcma so we do not get in jail if we programm interoperable programm's.
and maybe, maybe the next big software distro will not be red-hat , maybe it will LSB ( suse , mandrake , connectiva ) , but this may be illegal for u too use (just joking , but u never know )