"Several new monitors were introduced. All are powered by the computer, and sport a single connection that carries power, DVI, and USB to reduce cable count."
If the DVI connector is kept sufficiently seperate from Apple's connector (ADC), then you have essentially three monitor connectors: 1) standard old VGA (for your old CRT) 2)DVI (for your SGI flat panel) 3)ADC (for that 22-inch Apple flat panel you just had to have)
My question is, does the redesigned 17in CRT use the new Apple connector? THen it would be the first CRT I know of to use a digital signal from the video card. Also, why didn't they also release a 19" CRT model? I mean, Mitsu makes the tubes for the 17", so the 19" should be a shoo-in. But they killed the 20" CRT studio display, so I guess they're trying to send a message (but they needed at least *one* inexpensive display:).
Why is it that only Apple gets to put out cool stuff to the world? I always hear how Apple only focuses on the cosmetics, which is arguably true, but if it captivates people's attentions so much, why don't other computer makers even try?
I mean, everyone here is going goo goo ga ga over a fucking box! I am too - I admit. The cube is really cool looking. BUT IT'S A BOX! Why isn't Compaq or Dell or Sony (most of all Sony) putting out anything half as cool?
More power to Apple if they pull off yet another packaging revolution (the first being the iMac). Looks like everyone else lacks the balls to try something different.
Take Apple marketing BS with a healthy grain of salt. The G4 is fast, but not *that* fast.
However, now that you get two of them for the price of one in the PM G4, and soon will get true SMP in the form of OSX, it should be able to play with the big boys (the PM G4, not necessarily the cube).
The Apple Display Connector (ADC) not only makes it snap to connect one of these three displays to the Power Mac G4 and Power Mac G4 Cube, it also makes cable clutter go away. The ADC carries the video signal, USB and power, so you don't have to plug your display into another outlet.
Sounds proprietary to me. As long as they keep the VGA, everything's kosher...
I think it also uses the standard VGA connector; they are using a run-of-the-mill ATI 128 card in it which, as of late, have come with both VGA and DVI? (for LCD screens) connectors.
$2299 for the 500mhz model (only avail from Apple store)
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Unfortunately, with no internal fan, stacking them would probably be a bad idea. The exhaust heat would rise out of the top vents of the bottom cube and overheat the top one. Not only that, but the DVD is a top loading model, so kiss that goodbye.
The new iMac colors are going to replace the current colors, not add to them. I think they're an improvement.
I think they're just using the standard VGA and a LCD display connector; but apparently the new displays are powered from the cable, which makes me wonder -- perhaps they'll do something where the power is an optional secondary connector, kinda like they used to do with the ADB connector on the AppleVision displays (except for power this time, not communications).
is that they have now ditched the hockey puck mouse and crappy little keyboard.
The cubes look like really cool ultra-modern toasters, but I think they're a bit pricey for what they are, but hey, we're talking about Apple, so that comes as no surprise.
Anyone get to see the cool QT movie of the logic board of the cube lifting out from the bottom? Very cool. Pity they don't offer a DiamondTron 19" monitor to go with the cube. Oh well, one step forward for cosmetics, one step backwards for value.
ATI releases the Radeon just before MacWorld New York. Could it be because the Radeon will be used in the new G4 systems announced tomorrow?
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Persuade me. Seriously. I produce commercial websites, and need to use tools like Photoshop, Fireworks, BBEdit, etc. which are not (yet) available for an open source OS. I also work with digital photography, involving color matching, like the previous poster. Do you seriously think i'm the only one in my position, and that with enough persuasion i'm going to see that my Mac is worthless? You'd be better off persuading Adobe and Macromedia to port their products to Linux et al.
Please don't take this as an anti-OSS flame; personally I think the world would be much better off if an international coalition adopted an OSS operating system and blessed it as an International Standard Operating System so we could all get on with our lives (though I suppose the web has in a way become that), I just find it a bit disconcerting that people seem to think that all Mac users are semi-luddite morons. Many of us have damn good reasons for using our Macs; if i'm bored enough i'd be glad to enumerate them for you (and they don't date from the 8.3 vs. 32 filename era).
That was the original point of the Mac. It was such a good point that the rest of the industry has spent years catching up. At the expense of power? Well, no. Reliability? Maybe. Upgradability? Again, no. I don't think you've looked at a Mac in quite a few years.
They're not throwing any of that out the window (you sound confused as to whether or not that would be a good thing). BSD is not a Rube Goldberg contraption. And i'd be willing to bet that the BSD based OSX is a lot less Rube Goldberg-ish code-wise than the current MacOS, which is pretty well known for being old kludge (although also well known for some brilliance among it).
Apple is just for the elite gurus now? It's been that way for quite a while (at least financially); but because OSX will be BSD based does not == BSD difficult to use.
Go buy your mom a Dell - it doesn't sound like you'd buy her a Mac anyways as you seem far too stupid to be able to appreciate one anyways, regardless of how easy (or difficult) you believe they are (or will be) to use. You most obviously belong in a Windows world.
I meant to say "a trade-off between performance and efficiency", not technology. In Honda's case (as the cars you mentioned, and in particular the NSX), performance and technology go hand in hand. However, they have a certain knack (call it VTEC?) for combining fun, haul-ass performance with good fuel effeciency. I like that a lot.
Sure, American car manufacturers' engines don't achieve the same BHP/litre efficiency as most Euro and Japanese makers' engines do, but over here we tend to tune motors for low-end torque, not HP. My del Sol 1.6 SOHC motor (currently) puts out 125hp and 106lb/ft torque. Were this motor in an American car (doubtful, considering most US manufacturers start at 2.0L), you'd find those numbers much closer to each other, if a bit lower - more like 110/110. This is because 1)We all drive automatics (yech) which prefer torque. 2) We don't drive as quickly:) 3) Fuel is 1/3 to 1/4 the price. But i'm sure you know all that already.
As for performance, well, performance cars come from everywhere (particularly Germany and Japan, but the UK as well), but Team Oreca stomped this year at Le Mans with good ol' American Vipers. Say what you will, sometimes there's no substitute for cubic inches:).
In the case of MS, you are true - just because it sells well, the product is not necessarily good.
For Hondas, I beg to differ. Yes they are common, and yes, rice-boy racers make them look stupid and tacky, but they also happen to make damn good cars - damn good overall.
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"Several new monitors were introduced. All are powered by the computer, and sport a single connection that carries power, DVI, and USB to reduce cable count."
If the DVI connector is kept sufficiently seperate from Apple's connector (ADC), then you have essentially three monitor connectors: 1) standard old VGA (for your old CRT) 2)DVI (for your SGI flat panel) 3)ADC (for that 22-inch Apple flat panel you just had to have)
My question is, does the redesigned 17in CRT use the new Apple connector? THen it would be the first CRT I know of to use a digital signal from the video card. Also, why didn't they also release a 19" CRT model? I mean, Mitsu makes the tubes for the 17", so the 19" should be a shoo-in. But they killed the 20" CRT studio display, so I guess they're trying to send a message (but they needed at least *one* inexpensive display
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I'll wait for the Plus model...
From the site "the Power Mac G4 Cube holds up to a staggering 1.5 gigabytes of PC100 SDRAM".
Meaning it probably has 3 slots, which you could fill with staggeringly expensive 512MB dimms to get 1.5G RAM.
At least they didn't cripple it in that area.
So lay it on its side -- see, no more "things dropping into it" problems. Perhaps this is the answer for those wanting to stack the cubes.
From the site "the Power Mac G4 Cube holds up to a staggering 1.5 gigabytes of PC100 SDRAM".
Meaning it probably has 3 slots, which you could fill with staggeringly expensive 512MB dimms to get 1.5G RAM.
At least they didn't cripple it in that area.
Why is it that only Apple gets to put out cool stuff to the world? I always hear how Apple only focuses on the cosmetics, which is arguably true, but if it captivates people's attentions so much, why don't other computer makers even try?
I mean, everyone here is going goo goo ga ga over a fucking box! I am too - I admit. The cube is really cool looking. BUT IT'S A BOX! Why isn't Compaq or Dell or Sony (most of all Sony) putting out anything half as cool?
More power to Apple if they pull off yet another packaging revolution (the first being the iMac). Looks like everyone else lacks the balls to try something different.
For the 450 and 500mhz models, same as the old ones. Unfortunately no stripper 400mhz model.
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This is the new I was really interested in hearing
Take Apple marketing BS with a healthy grain of salt. The G4 is fast, but not *that* fast.
However, now that you get two of them for the price of one in the PM G4, and soon will get true SMP in the form of OSX, it should be able to play with the big boys (the PM G4, not necessarily the cube).
From the site:
The Apple Display Connector (ADC) not only makes it snap to connect one of these three displays to the Power Mac G4 and Power Mac G4 Cube, it also makes cable clutter go away. The ADC carries the video signal, USB and power, so you don't have to plug your display into another outlet.
Sounds proprietary to me. As long as they keep the VGA, everything's kosher...
I think it also uses the standard VGA connector; they are using a run-of-the-mill ATI 128 card in it which, as of late, have come with both VGA and DVI? (for LCD screens) connectors.
$1799 for the 450mhz model
$2299 for the 500mhz model (only avail from Apple store)
Unfortunately, with no internal fan, stacking them would probably be a bad idea. The exhaust heat would rise out of the top vents of the bottom cube and overheat the top one. Not only that, but the DVD is a top loading model, so kiss that goodbye.
The new iMac colors are going to replace the current colors, not add to them. I think they're an improvement.
How do you pick up a normal computer case? Where are the handles?
I guess Apple is expected to think about things like that but nobody else is.
So Jobs finally gets to sue himself for design infringement. I'm sure he'll win.
So that's the reason they're site has been slammed all morning? Please.
I don't give a shit about MS but I don't pretend that there aren't people who do, even if I don't understand why.
I think they're just using the standard VGA and a LCD display connector; but apparently the new displays are powered from the cable, which makes me wonder -- perhaps they'll do something where the power is an optional secondary connector, kinda like they used to do with the ADB connector on the AppleVision displays (except for power this time, not communications).
is that they have now ditched the hockey puck mouse and crappy little keyboard.
The cubes look like really cool ultra-modern toasters, but I think they're a bit pricey for what they are, but hey, we're talking about Apple, so that comes as no surprise.
Anyone get to see the cool QT movie of the logic board of the cube lifting out from the bottom? Very cool. Pity they don't offer a DiamondTron 19" monitor to go with the cube. Oh well, one step forward for cosmetics, one step backwards for value.
I think you gave it away with the title:
Mulder's replacement will be none other than that enigmatic Frenchman, Jean-Louis Gassée!
ATI releases the Radeon just before MacWorld New York. Could it be because the Radeon will be used in the new G4 systems announced tomorrow?
Persuade me. Seriously. I produce commercial websites, and need to use tools like Photoshop, Fireworks, BBEdit, etc. which are not (yet) available for an open source OS. I also work with digital photography, involving color matching, like the previous poster. Do you seriously think i'm the only one in my position, and that with enough persuasion i'm going to see that my Mac is worthless? You'd be better off persuading Adobe and Macromedia to port their products to Linux et al.
Please don't take this as an anti-OSS flame; personally I think the world would be much better off if an international coalition adopted an OSS operating system and blessed it as an International Standard Operating System so we could all get on with our lives (though I suppose the web has in a way become that), I just find it a bit disconcerting that people seem to think that all Mac users are semi-luddite morons. Many of us have damn good reasons for using our Macs; if i'm bored enough i'd be glad to enumerate them for you (and they don't date from the 8.3 vs. 32 filename era).
That was the original point of the Mac. It was such a good point that the rest of the industry has spent years catching up. At the expense of power? Well, no. Reliability? Maybe. Upgradability? Again, no. I don't think you've looked at a Mac in quite a few years.
They're not throwing any of that out the window (you sound confused as to whether or not that would be a good thing). BSD is not a Rube Goldberg contraption. And i'd be willing to bet that the BSD based OSX is a lot less Rube Goldberg-ish code-wise than the current MacOS, which is pretty well known for being old kludge (although also well known for some brilliance among it).
Apple is just for the elite gurus now? It's been that way for quite a while (at least financially); but because OSX will be BSD based does not == BSD difficult to use.
Go buy your mom a Dell - it doesn't sound like you'd buy her a Mac anyways as you seem far too stupid to be able to appreciate one anyways, regardless of how easy (or difficult) you believe they are (or will be) to use. You most obviously belong in a Windows world.
>This engine is quiter than any other 4cylinder engine that I've ever driven
Surely you mean "quieter than any other 4 cyl diesel engine you've driven"
My old '85 Nissan Sentra Diesel used to rattle windows like a big block without the power.
>But when you can buy a Neon
..and spend the other 10 grand on repairs.
I meant to say "a trade-off between performance and efficiency", not technology. In Honda's case (as the cars you mentioned, and in particular the NSX), performance and technology go hand in hand. However, they have a certain knack (call it VTEC?) for combining fun, haul-ass performance with good fuel effeciency. I like that a lot.
:) 3) Fuel is 1/3 to 1/4 the price. But i'm sure you know all that already.
:).
Sure, American car manufacturers' engines don't achieve the same BHP/litre efficiency as most Euro and Japanese makers' engines do, but over here we tend to tune motors for low-end torque, not HP. My del Sol 1.6 SOHC motor (currently) puts out 125hp and 106lb/ft torque. Were this motor in an American car (doubtful, considering most US manufacturers start at 2.0L), you'd find those numbers much closer to each other, if a bit lower - more like 110/110. This is because 1)We all drive automatics (yech) which prefer torque. 2) We don't drive as quickly
As for performance, well, performance cars come from everywhere (particularly Germany and Japan, but the UK as well), but Team Oreca stomped this year at Le Mans with good ol' American Vipers. Say what you will, sometimes there's no substitute for cubic inches
In the case of MS, you are true - just because it sells well, the product is not necessarily good.
For Hondas, I beg to differ. Yes they are common, and yes, rice-boy racers make them look stupid and tacky, but they also happen to make damn good cars - damn good overall.