I agree with most things in your post. But there are two things I strongly disagree.
The first point is the trust you put in the Microsoft certificate. I won't go into that, a high-rated answer on your post explains it allready.
The second thing I disagree wiht you, is the single person signing packages for everybody else. I wouldn't put that much power into the hand of *any* person. I would favor a web-of-trust based system used by PGP (and GPG I believe) instead.
so to write a Win32 app your most viable options have been C, VB or some other monstrosity on a Win32 box like Java, have you ever tried to run a half a million line Desktop Java app on windows.
Why is Java a monstrosity on Win32? Java works great on Win32 and *nix. We had once a pretty big project which was intendet to run on Sun on the server side and NT 4.0 on the client side. At the end of the project, we wanted to know if the client would also run under linux. It did. Without a SINGLE recompilation. We just used the bytecode from the NT-machine. Now show me what you need to do, when you do this with C.
Or to throw a Java app together in a nice pretty IDIOT proof installer so that the person who thinks a CDROM is a coffe cup holder can install it with one of the nice pretty MS installers, Java in those aspects , well...it sucks
Come-on, this is plain FUD and you know it. There are PLENTY of installers for Java-apps. A Simple search with Google reveals a mirad of good results.
The C# stuff is definatley cool. native speed and you can writer in any of the dot net languages you want...
Well, i wonder what makes you think that C# runs native speed. C# runs interpreted on a Virtual Machine just like Java does, PERIOD.
...the wholde of the VS 7 IDE and tools are written in C# , Im sure by the time its released it'll be pretty good....
This is just plain wish-thinking. Show me a MS Product that really behaves how it is supposed to. Certainly not the first release. Maybe a later fix would then have kludged the ugliest bugs of the product.
It's as much compiled as Java or Python (Perl?). It's compiled to bytecode and then the byte code gets interpreted. Speed's things up a bit compared to pure interpreted code, but VB is still interpreted in the end.
I don't know how to say this politely, so I will sa it bluntly: The average game player is the ultimate addict of the consumer culture. They want someone else to hand them entertainment on a silver platter. I can see why many gamers do not have the willingness nor patience to learn how to use Linux as a desktop operating system.
Well, maybe this is true for the grown up people who can count their spare hours on one hand. But I know many kids who invest an enormous amount of time to get their games working right. I've seen it myself, when everyone and their mother switched from Atari/Amiga to PC. It was a nightmare to learn how to get the autoexec.bat and the config.sys right.
Well the problem is now. People (kids) who got the time to figure things out, often don't have the money. And only people (grown ups) who don't have the time (and want entertainment on the silver plater) DO have the money. So maybe that's the reason Loki doesn't make enough money.
So while other friendly/.-ers help me out with my posts in broken english, I will return the favour and correct the posts containing broken german:
It is "Die Gestapo"
I guess it is for the same reason why nVidia doesn't release their driver in source: Because it would give the concurence an insight how their chip is working. So they can't do it.
That's also the reason why in the long run open-source projects are more efficient than closed-source projects.
That discussion reminds one I had when I and my girlfriend were going to the theater to watch a movie.
We couldn't decide which movieto watch. I for myself like to go to the IMDB and read the reviews to get an idea. She told me that film critcs are biased by peopels personal likings, that some might have been paied by the studios to give good critics and all that. There was no point argueing her. She was right. But then I asked her what she was relying upon to choose her film. Then she told me that she like to see the pictures shown infront of the cinemas and that she tries to get an idea looking the trailers...
So I guess there are many points for not believing sciences. They had been wrong before and they will make mistakes in the future. But what are the arguments for creationalism? I'd like to hear some of them.
I agree with you. RMS is extrem, he is an idealist. And society isn't. But this isn't a new thing. Are you religious? Have you seen what ideals the kathlolik church has? Priests as an example sacrifice their sexuality for their ideals. Isn't this a crazy thing? What would happen if everybody would live like priests? Mankind would die in one generation. I guess people aren't meant to be idealists to that extend.
So capitalist culture is threatend by the thoughts of RMS? I guess you are right. At least some of the current capitalist culture is threatend. I think there is still a place for capitalism and freedom of information. There was a world without IP-Laws for very long now, and there where still people trading goods and information (I won't go so far in call it capitalism). I guess there is also a future for capitalism, just a little different than we got it now.
We should force japan to adopt the same values as civilised countries like the USA - we do not desire to spread our values everywhere and forge an Empire, so why should they be allowed to?
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Thanks for the link. This was the most funniest post in weeks. Even thinking about to make it my.sig.
Well, you could fill it with oil. Don't know much about it, but someone once thought I might be a idea to cool everything and make the box less noisy.
Acutally most oils seem to be non-conducitve and with a pump and some more stuff you could cool the oil (although, certanly not as easy as with simple air and some fans), but oil transports sound BETTER than air so you would end up with a noisier computer.
Ah yes, fish won't like to swim in oil that much too:)
Don't anyone remember when we switched to PC?!?
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Have everyone forgotten, why we switched from Atari and Amiga(*) to PC? What was the reason learning DOS, learning to configure interrupts, loading drivers into HighMemory areas, learning to install Soundcards? We all bitched and moaned, but we did it!
It was because of the games. The PC had cool games and we couldn't get those for our old Home-Computer.
Everybody of our friends were switching to PC too. We had lot's of trouble learning all those things we didn't need to know before. But we were able to ask a friend. We were a community of people who switched to PC and after half a year we knew most of the things we need to know to get things run smoothly.
We need the same thing for Linux. Make Linux a gaming OS and people will happily learn all those quirks of this wonderful OS.
(*)Yes, there is a reason why I mention Atari first;)
Each one of us would be able to run a truly American operating system emblazoned with the American flag flying in the wind and symbolizing freedom and liberty.
Oh Great. Just when the comment seems to get interesting... well I'll bite it then. So you rather not have the help of non-American, like myself?
Internet and nationalism doesn't mix well I guess. Sorry for the rant, but this is just the kind of "we are the world"-ies that make me want to throw up.
Let's start a hypothesis. I give you 1 billion dollar. What would you do? I guess you would make vacation or quit you job entirely, spend the money into car(s), a big house, traveling all over the world and the like. But how long would it take until you would be finally bored with traveling and spending money? You know what the majority is answering what they finally do after received a huge sum of money? They choose to go back to work. But why work if you already got the money? Because everyone needs to have something that give live a sense.
I don't think people working/coding for free are wrong, I think the economy is wrong.
"Death is a motherfucker. Death is the end of this known existence."
People in Babel attempted to build a tower to break into the labratory, the tower was destroyed and the people punished.
Confusing Sodom and Gomorra with Babel, are we? The tower at babel was not destroyed. It was left uncompleted.
God merly changed their languages so they would fail to complete the tower. This left people unable to understand each other. Later, they felt they wouldn't reach the sky right here and building the tower on another place would be easier. Unfortunatly they couln't agree where to build Tower of Babel 2 and so they separted into 4 groups each going into another direction (north, south, west and est)
"Death is a motherfucker. Death is the end of this known existence."
The last time I had to reboot our NT4-Server was when I switched to Print-Server to not send the "Print Completed"-Messages anymore and this required to reboot the machine to take effect... now that's an explaination why some people translate MS to Micky-Mause Software... and I think this is a insult to Micky-Mause:)
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I agree with most things in your post. But there are two things I strongly disagree.
The first point is the trust you put in the Microsoft certificate. I won't go into that, a high-rated answer on your post explains it allready.
The second thing I disagree wiht you, is the single person signing packages for everybody else. I wouldn't put that much power into the hand of *any* person. I would favor a web-of-trust based system used by PGP (and GPG I believe) instead.
Like the above comment said it.
It's as much compiled as Java or Python (Perl?). It's compiled to bytecode and then the byte code gets interpreted. Speed's things up a bit compared to pure interpreted code, but VB is still interpreted in the end.
Well the problem is now. People (kids) who got the time to figure things out, often don't have the money. And only people (grown ups) who don't have the time (and want entertainment on the silver plater) DO have the money. So maybe that's the reason Loki doesn't make enough money.
It is "Die Gestapo"
Have fun ;)
Gives pizza-box a whole new meaning...
That's also the reason why in the long run open-source projects are more efficient than closed-source projects.
We couldn't decide which movieto watch. I for myself like to go to the IMDB and read the reviews to get an idea. She told me that film critcs are biased by peopels personal likings, that some might have been paied by the studios to give good critics and all that. There was no point argueing her. She was right. But then I asked her what she was relying upon to choose her film. Then she told me that she like to see the pictures shown infront of the cinemas and that she tries to get an idea looking the trailers...
So I guess there are many points for not believing sciences. They had been wrong before and they will make mistakes in the future. But what are the arguments for creationalism? I'd like to hear some of them.
And now people will qoute him and his Open Sauce analogie ;)
So capitalist culture is threatend by the thoughts of RMS? I guess you are right. At least some of the current capitalist culture is threatend. I think there is still a place for capitalism and freedom of information. There was a world without IP-Laws for very long now, and there where still people trading goods and information (I won't go so far in call it capitalism). I guess there is also a future for capitalism, just a little different than we got it now.
This is interesting, you claim to know what the mindset of most people is. What do you got to support your claim?
Not true. Even thought I'm not from germany (I'm swiss), but I speak german, and Transmeda and Transmeta isn't pronounced the same.
Thanks for the link. This was the most funniest post in weeks. Even thinking about to make it my .sig.
Now I wonder what Microsoft's next move will be.
All your user-bases are belong to us!
Make your time.
I guess MS becomes the dot in G.P.L.
Acutally most oils seem to be non-conducitve and with a pump and some more stuff you could cool the oil (although, certanly not as easy as with simple air and some fans), but oil transports sound BETTER than air so you would end up with a noisier computer.
Ah yes, fish won't like to swim in oil that much too :)
Have everyone forgotten, why we switched from Atari and Amiga(*) to PC? What was the reason learning DOS, learning to configure interrupts, loading drivers into HighMemory areas, learning to install Soundcards? We all bitched and moaned, but we did it!
It was because of the games. The PC had cool games and we couldn't get those for our old Home-Computer.
Everybody of our friends were switching to PC too. We had lot's of trouble learning all those things we didn't need to know before. But we were able to ask a friend. We were a community of people who switched to PC and after half a year we knew most of the things we need to know to get things run smoothly.
We need the same thing for Linux. Make Linux a gaming OS and people will happily learn all those quirks of this wonderful OS.
(*)Yes, there is a reason why I mention Atari first ;)
It's just like the dilbert comics. I'd like to take it on the sarcastic way and find it amusing...., but it's the reality! *sob*
I think this is the best prove that people actually read the articel before they post... well, unless it's already slashdoted.
So you rather not have the help of non-American, like myself?
Internet and nationalism doesn't mix well I guess. Sorry for the rant, but this is just the kind of "we are the world"-ies that make me want to throw up.
Don't try to bend this sig. That's impossible...
"Death is a motherfucker. Death is the end of this known existence."
I don't think people working/coding for free are wrong, I think the economy is wrong.
"Death is a motherfucker. Death is the end of this known existence."
"Death is a motherfucker. Death is the end of this known existence."
The last time I had to reboot our NT4-Server was when I switched to Print-Server to not send the "Print Completed"-Messages anymore and this required to reboot the machine to take effect... now that's an explaination why some people translate MS to Micky-Mause Software... and I think this is a insult to Micky-Mause :)