The 1970s called. They want their home-made speakers back.
Whilst the size thing certainly has some truth in it, your thoughts on which speakers sound better are worthless unless you've tried them in double blind trials.
The Marxist strain of communism explicitly denies the possibility of coming to power in anything but a revolution, even in a democratic state (which they describe as "bourgeois democracy", and consider it a sham that would never actually allow communists to get power by democratic means).
No, it's an understanding of the fact that any imposed communist system HAS to be top down. Marx acknowledged as much, which is why he advocated for a more organic transition to communism rather than having it imposed by rebellion or government mandate.
Right, so if you actually understand what you just said, and didn't just speed read wikipedia, you'd realise you're talking about socialism, not communism.
The musings of Marx have no bearing on what communism is in practice.
Which is just a restating of what I said the problem was. You are thinking that what was in the USSR was communism, rather than what Marx described communism as being.
It's not too dissimilar from claiming libertarianism is what's practiced in Somalia.
I believe your explanation is just a less accurate rephrasing of my explanation. I said essentially the same thing, with the added caveat that the type of government can make abuse of power easier or harder. If you disagree with that, I'd love to know why.
I'm glad we're almost in accord. But you didn't just say "the type of government can make abuse of power easier or harder", you said communism made it easier. And I don't see any justification for that. Communism isn't any more likely to be repressive than right wing totalitarianism, imperialism, feudalism, oligarchy, fascism, anarchy or even capitalism.
17% growth for Apple... year on year, while the sequential decline is 14%, do you understand what that means?
Yeah, it means phones, like every other consumer electronic item, are seasonal. And this quarter was the one after the holidays.
If you weren't such a dweeb, you'd have noticed Android is down sequentially too.
ABI Research reports that Android once again dominated the Q1 2014 shipment numbers for smartphone advanced operating systems with *** 80% *** market share (including AOSP) of just under 300 million smartphones shipped in Q1 2014.
Oh, right, so you're comparing Android plus AOSP's percentage of smartphones with iOS's growth in the entire phone market. You can certainly be relied upon to be an idiot! Analysis is obviously not your strong point.
Hmm. We're both right in a way. This is why I said about maybe you were misstating what you believe.
All files are encrypted. You know what a remote disk wipe does on iOS? It deletes the encryption key(s), nothing more. It doesn't delete the data. It doesn't have to because without keys, the data might as well be random bits.
What's causing you to be mistaken is there are different categories of file protection on different files. One is called "No Protection", but it isn't no encryption.
In most civilized countries, letting a machine build a device out of plastic is not illegal, regardless of what the device is.
Most civilised countries either don't allow civilians to have guns guns, or don't allow unlicensed manufacture of them. Whether or not the manufacture is done with a 3D printer in plastic.
Raise your hand if you thought the iPhone contains some magical Steve Jobs fart that would prevent someone with hardware access (leave alone Apple with hardware access!) from ripping the unencryped data (which, in a default setup, is essentially everything except your e-mail) from the flash chips.
*RAISES HAND*
From iOS 4 onwards, all disk data is encrypted if you have set a passcode. Hardware access to the flash chips won't help you.
And the only people that don't set a passcode are people that don't care about security. Without a passcode Law enforcement don't need Apple's help. They just open the app and read the data.
And yes, hardware access is necessary even if it isn't explicilty stated in the summary. Anyhow, those that did raise their hands earlier, please hand in your geek card and don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
Either you are badly misstating what you believe, or you already lost your geek card.
what hope to you have against the government with all their money and resources.
Given that the App you mention and Apple's list of what they can extract amount to the same thing, it's probable the government also can access the same things. Basically anything that not encrypted on the device or backup can be accessed by all (with physical access). Things that are encrypted can't be. Even by people working for scary 3 letter acronyms.
Blackberry's BBM message facility is the most secure in the business. Which is why Blackberry's are the criminal's first choice of phone. I'm not just saying that, the London looting "riots" of a few years ago were organised by criminal gangs and they used BBM to do it.
Apple's pretty secure though. If you want to see a real sham, look to Android - remove the SSD from most Androids, and you have all the user data right there, unencrypted. Users have to take active steps to encrypt stuff. And how many do that?
How about google, hotmail, facebook etc passwords from Safari's settings?
No, they can't extract those.
Who gives a crap about the data in the calendar app, thats all hosted on apples cloud anyway.
Well it might be. If the user chose to set up an iCloud account, and hasn't deleted the data since. In every other case it's unavailable. It can't be extracted from the phone.
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Thanks for a fantastic and interesting reply.
Don't blame the thing you don't understand for your lack of understanding.
No. 3.2 Billion for a pre-made streaming service, with record company agreements already in place.
The 1970s called. They want their home-made speakers back.
Whilst the size thing certainly has some truth in it, your thoughts on which speakers sound better are worthless unless you've tried them in double blind trials.
The Marxist strain of communism explicitly denies the possibility of coming to power in anything but a revolution, even in a democratic state (which they describe as "bourgeois democracy", and consider it a sham that would never actually allow communists to get power by democratic means).
Isn't that Trotsky rather than Marx?
No, it's an understanding of the fact that any imposed communist system HAS to be top down. Marx acknowledged as much, which is why he advocated for a more organic transition to communism rather than having it imposed by rebellion or government mandate.
Right, so if you actually understand what you just said, and didn't just speed read wikipedia, you'd realise you're talking about socialism, not communism.
The musings of Marx have no bearing on what communism is in practice.
Which is just a restating of what I said the problem was. You are thinking that what was in the USSR was communism, rather than what Marx described communism as being.
It's not too dissimilar from claiming libertarianism is what's practiced in Somalia.
I believe your explanation is just a less accurate rephrasing of my explanation. I said essentially the same thing, with the added caveat that the type of government can make abuse of power easier or harder. If you disagree with that, I'd love to know why.
I'm glad we're almost in accord. But you didn't just say "the type of government can make abuse of power easier or harder", you said communism made it easier. And I don't see any justification for that. Communism isn't any more likely to be repressive than right wing totalitarianism, imperialism, feudalism, oligarchy, fascism, anarchy or even capitalism.
17% growth for Apple... year on year, while the sequential decline is 14%, do you understand what that means?
Yeah, it means phones, like every other consumer electronic item, are seasonal. And this quarter was the one after the holidays.
If you weren't such a dweeb, you'd have noticed Android is down sequentially too.
ABI Research reports that Android once again dominated the Q1 2014 shipment numbers for smartphone advanced operating systems with *** 80% *** market share (including AOSP) of just under 300 million smartphones shipped in Q1 2014.
Oh, right, so you're comparing Android plus AOSP's percentage of smartphones with iOS's growth in the entire phone market. You can certainly be relied upon to be an idiot! Analysis is obviously not your strong point.
You like guns. I get it. That doesn't mean it's a stupid law in countries with a majority that don't want hand-guns.
If you have automatic downloads of apps on
So it's optional, and that's updates, not new apps.
Now can Google do it?
Oh, you got the link right this time. Did you try really hard?
iOS growth 17%. Yes, that's pretty sweet. Thanks.
Android now has 80% of the worldwide smartphone market and sitll rising.
Only 44% on your link. Maybe you did fuck it up again.
Sorry, I forgot British law applied worldwide.
Makes a change from assuming US law does.
But note "e.g."
Of course it is.
e.g.
https://www.gov.uk/government/...
So, about that geek card... ;-)
Hmm. We're both right in a way. This is why I said about maybe you were misstating what you believe.
All files are encrypted. You know what a remote disk wipe does on iOS? It deletes the encryption key(s), nothing more. It doesn't delete the data. It doesn't have to because without keys, the data might as well be random bits.
What's causing you to be mistaken is there are different categories of file protection on different files. One is called "No Protection", but it isn't no encryption.
What's ridiculous about a man in a country where private possession of guns is illegal being arrested for possessing guns?
In most civilized countries, letting a machine build a device out of plastic is not illegal, regardless of what the device is.
Most civilised countries either don't allow civilians to have guns guns, or don't allow unlicensed manufacture of them. Whether or not the manufacture is done with a 3D printer in plastic.
No one ever said that guns were the only factor in suicide rates.
Japan's high suicide rate is because they have a culture which will not accept failure. And where deviation from the norm is not tolerated.
If they had guns, their suicide figures would be even higher, as they'd have access to another quick and reasonably reliable method.
Raise your hand if you thought the iPhone contains some magical Steve Jobs fart that would prevent someone with hardware access (leave alone Apple with hardware access!) from ripping the unencryped data (which, in a default setup, is essentially everything except your e-mail) from the flash chips.
*RAISES HAND*
From iOS 4 onwards, all disk data is encrypted if you have set a passcode. Hardware access to the flash chips won't help you.
And the only people that don't set a passcode are people that don't care about security. Without a passcode Law enforcement don't need Apple's help. They just open the app and read the data.
And yes, hardware access is necessary even if it isn't explicilty stated in the summary. Anyhow, those that did raise their hands earlier, please hand in your geek card and don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
Either you are badly misstating what you believe, or you already lost your geek card.
what hope to you have against the government with all their money and resources.
Given that the App you mention and Apple's list of what they can extract amount to the same thing, it's probable the government also can access the same things. Basically anything that not encrypted on the device or backup can be accessed by all (with physical access). Things that are encrypted can't be. Even by people working for scary 3 letter acronyms.
Clearly the intelligencia is backing open-source these days...
Given that Apple, like Google, can push apps to the phone
Apple can't. Can Google?
You;re right. The only mention in the document of either "iMessages" or "messages" is:
"Apple cannot intercept usersâ(TM) iMessage or FaceTime communications as these communications are end-to-end encrypted."
As this is a document saying what Apple CAN get with a warrant, clearly iMessages can't be.
Are you saying I don't really own my (Linux powered) Garmin GPS and my Nintendo Wii? They sure seem like mine. If I sell them I get the money.
Or is this one of those Stallman "political correctness" things?
Blackberry's BBM message facility is the most secure in the business. Which is why Blackberry's are the criminal's first choice of phone. I'm not just saying that, the London looting "riots" of a few years ago were organised by criminal gangs and they used BBM to do it.
Apple's pretty secure though. If you want to see a real sham, look to Android - remove the SSD from most Androids, and you have all the user data right there, unencrypted. Users have to take active steps to encrypt stuff. And how many do that?
How about google, hotmail, facebook etc passwords from Safari's settings?
No, they can't extract those.
Who gives a crap about the data in the calendar app, thats all hosted on apples cloud anyway.
Well it might be. If the user chose to set up an iCloud account, and hasn't deleted the data since. In every other case it's unavailable. It can't be extracted from the phone.