While Pixar did a fine job at animation it is not on par with other animators. If you look closely at comparing the films of pixar and competitors, the detail in the competitions products beats pixar hands down.
Good grief. The hatred of Steve Jobs now extended to putting down the most innovative and successful computer animation company of all. Just because Jobs owned it. Sad.
There were lots of engineers at the Home-Brew Computer Club making computers. Most of them stayed hobby projects. Woz's hardware only went down in history because SJ made them into a product and sold them.
Today's slashdot has some bizarre idolatry of Woz, as if he was some god like engineer. No. He just connected together a 6502, some ram chips, a couple of proms, and some other chips together in pretty much the way they were designed to be used. The engineers that designed the chips he used for example were doing far more impressive work than Woz.
What made Woz special was the fact he was a friend of Jobs. If you can't see that from what actually happened at the time of the Apple I, you ought to be able to see it from their respective careers since they parted.
But if it is presented to the audience as if it was a reporting of history while at the same time distorting facts to push a certain point of view, then it can mislead the audience.
Audiences are misled all the time. Movies are storytelling, even when losely based on real events of people. Anyone who needs to be sure they are getting historical accuracy need to do their own research. But research will rarely get the actual conversations with people, because no one recorded them. Even interviews about conversations will be misleading - people report conversations from their point of view. Two people reporting a conversation can have a very different slant on what was said.
It's still workwhile doing storytelling losely based on true stories or people though, because they can be entertaining.
If people walk away thinking Steve Jobs was the visionary behind the personal computer revolution, then the propaganda has won and the facts have been hidden.
There was no one man behind the personal computer revolution, but Steve Jobs certainly has a significant part to play. I'll be quite happy of the movie reflects that.
You didn't get the point the OP made. It passed you by, and you chose to assume what he meant, missing the point in your reply.
No, I noticed the OPs sarcasm, and replied with sarcasm. You didn't get that and and thought I didn;t spot the sarcasm and so replied with Woooosh! I replied to you with Woooosh because you didn't get my sarcasm.
There's a big difference between what you think happened here and what actually happened here.
You claimed originally that "The Scuds were originally from Egypt, and have been further developed mostly by NK themselves over the years.". Now you are retracting that statement and claiming you said something different.
Two possibilities. English is not your first language. Or you're a dishonest prick.
As early as 1980, when Apple had it's IPO, Job's had created 300 millionaires, 40 of which were employees.
Woz himself is worth 100s millions of dollars, thanks to Steve Jobs taking an interest in his hobby projects. Without SJ, Woz would undoubtably have been an obscure engineer. He's certainly done nothing impressive without SJ.
At least where i live you have to have a certain % of disabled spaces, if those are filled by the non-disabled upper management, they're not disabled spaces.
Perhaps they had more than the bare minimum percentage.
The Raspberry Pi is being marketed by companies like Farnell and RS Components. They are profit making companies. If you think they aren't making a profit on this, I've got a bridge to sell you.
The only difference is that you like the guys behind the Raspberry Pi and you hate SJ/Apple.
There is nothing wrong with making a product that people want and making a profit on selling it.
Well thank god they don't. The Social Network was bad enough already. Consider how boring it would have been if it'd been accurate. Endless meetings, often involving lawyers. Yawn.
The sad fact of life is that 50 years from now the media will have deified Jobs and next generations will believe he was a much much larger than life superhero who bootstrapped the entire computer industry and singlehandedly created new innovative products and touched so many people on a deep and personal level through his enduring work. And the real heros, Woz...
It's quote amusing to see all these people criticising the deifying of Jobs, which isn't actually happening, whilst at the same time they are deifying Woz.
You think all the scenes in Lincoln really happened? Or The Iron Lady? Or Moneyball? Or the Social Network? Or 127 hours?
It's a movie. It's entertainment. Just because it's a biopic, doesn't mean it's a literal reporting of history as it happened. If they made them like that, they'd bomb at the box office for being 4 hours of tedium.
Let us look at 9/11 since it is a valid conspiracy.
So you are a conspiracy theorist. I called it perfectly.
Wrong again! Scuds were Russian technology, not Egyptian. Go do some homework, you are absolutely wrong.
I never said Scud's were not Russian technology. I said NK got theirs originally from Egypt. And they did.
"North Korea obtained its first Scud-Bs from Egypt in 1979 or 1980. These missiles were reverse engineered, and reproduced using North Korean infrastructure, including the 125 factory at Pyongyang, a research and development institute at Sanum-dong and the Musudan-ri Launch Facility.[10] The first prototypes were completed in 1984, and designated Hwasong-5. They were exact replicas of the R-17Es obtained from Egypt. The first test flights occurred in April 1984, but the first version saw only limited production, and no operational deployment, as its purpose was only to validate the production process." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scud_missiles#North_Korea
There is no "blame". You entered into a contract in order to get a cheaper phone. That contract meant the carrier is initially out of pocket, because of their arrangement with the carrier to pay them part of the cost of the phone.
Yes, they could tell you that you can't because of your contract with them. But the underlying reason is because of their financial outlay to the manufacturer that needs you to finish paying what you agreed.
Except when you call to get your phone unlocked they try to claim their agreement with the phone manufacturer prohibits them from unlocking your phone.
Explain that.
Simple. Their agreement with the phone manufacturer is that they paid part of the price of the phone. And they need you to remain with them for the full length of the contract to recoup that cost.
On the other hand, If they are trying that line after your contract expired, then they are just trying to cheat you.
Why is this a special case and needs a special law?
It isn't. This is just a clarification that the DMCA does apply to unlocking phones.
Why is the contract you sign insufficient?
DMCA is criminal law. A contract is just an civil arrangement for which one can have a financial liability. That would become particularly relevant where someone offers the service of unlocking phones. Or software to perform it. They wouldn't be subject to any beach of contract, but they would be subject to the DMCA.
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While Pixar did a fine job at animation it is not on par with other animators. If you look closely at comparing the films of pixar and competitors, the detail in the competitions products beats pixar hands down.
Good grief. The hatred of Steve Jobs now extended to putting down the most innovative and successful computer animation company of all. Just because Jobs owned it. Sad.
There were lots of engineers at the Home-Brew Computer Club making computers. Most of them stayed hobby projects. Woz's hardware only went down in history because SJ made them into a product and sold them.
Today's slashdot has some bizarre idolatry of Woz, as if he was some god like engineer. No. He just connected together a 6502, some ram chips, a couple of proms, and some other chips together in pretty much the way they were designed to be used. The engineers that designed the chips he used for example were doing far more impressive work than Woz.
What made Woz special was the fact he was a friend of Jobs. If you can't see that from what actually happened at the time of the Apple I, you ought to be able to see it from their respective careers since they parted.
But if it is presented to the audience as if it was a reporting of history while at the same time distorting facts to push a certain point of view, then it can mislead the audience.
Audiences are misled all the time. Movies are storytelling, even when losely based on real events of people. Anyone who needs to be sure they are getting historical accuracy need to do their own research. But research will rarely get the actual conversations with people, because no one recorded them. Even interviews about conversations will be misleading - people report conversations from their point of view. Two people reporting a conversation can have a very different slant on what was said.
It's still workwhile doing storytelling losely based on true stories or people though, because they can be entertaining.
If people walk away thinking Steve Jobs was the visionary behind the personal computer revolution, then the propaganda has won and the facts have been hidden.
There was no one man behind the personal computer revolution, but Steve Jobs certainly has a significant part to play. I'll be quite happy of the movie reflects that.
You didn't get the point the OP made. It passed you by, and you chose to assume what he meant, missing the point in your reply.
No, I noticed the OPs sarcasm, and replied with sarcasm. You didn't get that and and thought I didn;t spot the sarcasm and so replied with Woooosh! I replied to you with Woooosh because you didn't get my sarcasm.
There's a big difference between what you think happened here and what actually happened here.
So that's what makes SJ/Apple evil, and RS Components not evil. Evil is when you don't do enough volume to have leverage with suppliers. Got you.
What fucking alternative reality are you living?
I could ask you the same thing.
You claimed originally that "The Scuds were originally from Egypt, and have been further developed mostly by NK themselves over the years.". Now you are retracting that statement and claiming you said something different.
Two possibilities. English is not your first language. Or you're a dishonest prick.
As early as 1980, when Apple had it's IPO, Job's had created 300 millionaires, 40 of which were employees.
Woz himself is worth 100s millions of dollars, thanks to Steve Jobs taking an interest in his hobby projects. Without SJ, Woz would undoubtably have been an obscure engineer. He's certainly done nothing impressive without SJ.
Great entertainment though it was, the West Wing was a pretty loose adaption of the Clinton era white house.
Sorkin is a storyteller, just like the writer of this Steve Jobs movie.
At least where i live you have to have a certain % of disabled spaces, if those are filled by the non-disabled upper management, they're not disabled spaces.
Perhaps they had more than the bare minimum percentage.
Irrelevant. They might be making a profit, but it's still cheaper than you could make it yourself due to the economies of scale.
1) You're only guessing that wasn't the case with the Apple I.
2) Since when was that the distinction between good and evil product development anyway? You guys are insane.
The Raspberry Pi is being marketed by companies like Farnell and RS Components. They are profit making companies. If you think they aren't making a profit on this, I've got a bridge to sell you.
The only difference is that you like the guys behind the Raspberry Pi and you hate SJ/Apple.
There is nothing wrong with making a product that people want and making a profit on selling it.
Well thank god they don't. The Social Network was bad enough already. Consider how boring it would have been if it'd been accurate. Endless meetings, often involving lawyers. Yawn.
The sad fact of life is that 50 years from now the media will have deified Jobs and next generations will believe he was a much much larger than life superhero who bootstrapped the entire computer industry and singlehandedly created new innovative products and touched so many people on a deep and personal level through his enduring work. And the real heros, Woz...
It's quote amusing to see all these people criticising the deifying of Jobs, which isn't actually happening, whilst at the same time they are deifying Woz.
Woz was a loser. Relatively speaking. Engineers just like him because he's one of their own.
So you probably enjoyed "Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter" then.
He could park in the disabled bays regardless of the license plates. He was CEO of the company that put the bays there in the first place.
You think all the scenes in Lincoln really happened? Or The Iron Lady? Or Moneyball? Or the Social Network? Or 127 hours?
It's a movie. It's entertainment. Just because it's a biopic, doesn't mean it's a literal reporting of history as it happened. If they made them like that, they'd bomb at the box office for being 4 hours of tedium.
"His idea was to make a $20 PC board and sell it for $40 to help people at the club build the computer I'd given away"
That's also the idea of the Raspberry Pi. Of course it's good when they do it, but evil if Apple did it.
There is no misinterpreting, your original post was just illogical.
Look, you annoying little cunt, my first post said this and only this:
"Do you have any historical examples?"
There is as a point of fact, nothing illogical in that question. Now fuck off you tedious cretin.
Let us look at 9/11 since it is a valid conspiracy.
So you are a conspiracy theorist. I called it perfectly.
Wrong again! Scuds were Russian technology, not Egyptian. Go do some homework, you are absolutely wrong.
I never said Scud's were not Russian technology. I said NK got theirs originally from Egypt. And they did.
"North Korea obtained its first Scud-Bs from Egypt in 1979 or 1980. These missiles were reverse engineered, and reproduced using North Korean infrastructure, including the 125 factory at Pyongyang, a research and development institute at Sanum-dong and the Musudan-ri Launch Facility.[10] The first prototypes were completed in 1984, and designated Hwasong-5. They were exact replicas of the R-17Es obtained from Egypt. The first test flights occurred in April 1984, but the first version saw only limited production, and no operational deployment, as its purpose was only to validate the production process."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scud_missiles#North_Korea
As I said, the facts back me up, not you.
There is no "blame". You entered into a contract in order to get a cheaper phone. That contract meant the carrier is initially out of pocket, because of their arrangement with the carrier to pay them part of the cost of the phone.
Yes, they could tell you that you can't because of your contract with them. But the underlying reason is because of their financial outlay to the manufacturer that needs you to finish paying what you agreed.
There's nothing confusing nor dishonest here.
Except when you call to get your phone unlocked they try to claim their agreement with the phone manufacturer prohibits them from unlocking your phone.
Explain that.
Simple. Their agreement with the phone manufacturer is that they paid part of the price of the phone. And they need you to remain with them for the full length of the contract to recoup that cost.
On the other hand, If they are trying that line after your contract expired, then they are just trying to cheat you.
Why is this a special case and needs a special law?
It isn't. This is just a clarification that the DMCA does apply to unlocking phones.
Why is the contract you sign insufficient?
DMCA is criminal law. A contract is just an civil arrangement for which one can have a financial liability.
That would become particularly relevant where someone offers the service of unlocking phones. Or software to perform it. They wouldn't be subject to any beach of contract, but they would be subject to the DMCA.
Who said it was illegal to unlock it after the contract ended? Certainly not TFA or TFS.