I live in the North of England, and I can't find a single error in my area. When viewing with satellite imagery, all the map roads perfectly match the roads on the photos, and all the POIs I can see are correct.
So clearly it depends where you live. Some places are better than others.
Auto-update: The OS is updated without asking you. Does not exist on iOS and never has.
Whether you update via OTA or via iTunes, what happens is that you recieve a notification that there is a new OS version, and it tells you what it is, and what the benefits are. And then you can chose to install it if you want to.
One click install for sure. Auto (forced), certainly not. Not even possible, never mind default.
He's not being a wee bit honest. You're being either ignorant or a liar.
That was the second part of his point. That developers can't use more recent libraries, because the majority of Android users are still on ancient OS versions.
The result being that the quality of Android Apps lags ever further behind iPhone, because even where a new Android version provides a feature for developers to use, most of them aren't using it until it's years old.
I don't think that's the criteria. I think the criteria is that the device is powerful enough and has the features required for the OS update. I think they got it wrong once... allowing iPhone 3G users to update to iOS 4, when it didn't have the horsepower required.
The problem is that it won't be the default handler for "map links" and other types of integration, like viewing your photos spatially on a map.
1) The map link itself specifies if it's a link to Apple Maps or Google Maps. If used on a device that doesn't have the appropriate app, the web based version of the appropriate map is opened.
2) Apple Maps may have some errors. But in what way would that get in the way of viewing photo locations. It wouldn't.
You seem to be worrying about things that aren't real problems.
If your comment reflects typical thinking at networks, then those apple Geniuses probably are right. It is the networks fault.
Networks have access to iOS betas and release candidates in the months before a release. They should be testing it, and problems that come up should be reported to Apple or fixed on the network, depending on who's at fault.
It shouldn't come as a surprise on the day the iOS version launches.
Wrong. Apple makes betas and release candidates available to developers in the months before the final release. They are tested, and they are generally very high quality when they are released.
If Windows users had to get their Windows updates from Dell, HP, or the guy at the local computer store who built their PC for them, you might have a point.
So Microsoft got their business model right and Google got it wrong.
There's a glut of Application updates right now, because developers have updated their software to take advantage of iOS6 and the bigger screen of the iPhone. That'll be why. She won't have been redownloading the same apps, but new versions of the apps.
My phone works. I'm in no more rush to download updates for it than I am to download the latest updates for Windows or Firefox. The only people who seem to get really worked up over software updates are the Applephiles.
Be honest. Your Android phone has never actually notified you that there's a new version of the OS, has it?
Yes. That's one of the reason they are better products.
You're singling out a specific version of the Galaxy Nexus which is renown for having compatibility issues (different antenna if I'm not mistaken) and for being bogged down by Verizon's stupid involvement.
Funnily enough, when the issue of lack of Android OS updates has come up on Slashdot, there's always a few people who say "Buy a Nexus and that's not a problem." And now you are saying it IS a problem for at least one of the Nexus devices.
This is one of the problems with Android. It's a bit of a lottery what your experience will be depending on which model you come out of the phone store with. And with new models coming out every week, it's beyond the average person to keep up with the pros and cons of each model.
I would imagine that the corresponding crew within Apple is working like mad to fix all the hot issues after they've been plastered all over the Net.
For sure. So already, 4 days after release, Apple Maps is already much improved. This is exactly why mapping solutions are released to the public before their data is perfect.
Apart from a handful of major cities with the fancy 'flyover' feature, every where I've tried so far has cruddy satellite imagery. How are they gonna crowdsource that?
Back when Google launched Street View, only a few cities were covered. IIRC, in the UK it was only central London. But as time whet on, more cities were covered, and then more and more countryside.
The flyover feature is achieved by Apple contracting planes to fly over cities, photographing from multiple angles. Just like Street View, as time goes on, more and more places will be covered. In the meantime, they are using existing satellite imagery from their various data suppliers - and it's of very variable quality.
Right, and so did Apple. It was Apple's responsibility to start working on their in-house solution early enough to have it ready by the time the Google contract expired.
They did. Apple have been working on it for years. And it's not only ready, it's shipped. It's not perfect, but no mapping solution is, especially v1.0.
Right, and so did Apple. It was Apple's responsibility to start working on their in-house solution early enough to have it ready by the time the Google contract expired.
It is not only ready, it's shipped. ALL mapping solutions have shipped with plenty of data errors. They need people actually using the system to clear those errors up. And remember it's a moving target. The road system and points of interest change day by day. A map system that tries to have perfect data before it ships won't ever ship.
They can chose: there are lots of mapping solutions on the App Store. And as soon as Google release it's own version of maps there, it'll be one of the choices.
It may well be true of the majority. Just because the reviewers are looking for errors and find them (perhaps by googling for them), doesn't necessarily mean that they are so common the average user will notice them in general usage. Back in the day, people used to have fun finding the most ridiculous errors in Google maps too. But it didn't mean that Google maps was problematic for the average user in those early days.
No, Google Maps for iOS 5 and earlier does not have turn by turn directions. Not even mute ones. It has routes between two points, drawn on a north upward 2D map. There's no indicator saying what direction you need to take at the next junction.
It's only been out a couple of days. Rather too soon to call it unpopular. For sure, the people reviewing it have been pointing out it's got more errors than Google Maps at this time. That doesn't mean people won't use it. Being pre-installed means a lot of people will use it, just because it's already there. And the fact that it has turn-by-turn nav, which Google maps didn't may make many people prefer it. So it may very well prove very popular.
And it's by having lots of real users out there, that the accuracy of the maps will be improved.
Remember when people wrote off Safari because it didn't support Flash? In reality it wasn't much of a problem, and became less so as time went on.
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I live in the North of England, and I can't find a single error in my area. When viewing with satellite imagery, all the map roads perfectly match the roads on the photos, and all the POIs I can see are correct.
So clearly it depends where you live. Some places are better than others.
Sure enough, it's still spelled Kylv. Will keep my eye on that one to see how long it takes to correct.
The iOS 6 update is free.
You must have been the one born that minute.
It's not his maths that's at fault, it's your logic.
If I update from iOS 4.x to 5.x. Then from 5.x to 6.x. I have both adopted 5.x and adopted 6.x. They are not mutually exclusive.
auto-update is the default on iOS5
Auto-update: The OS is updated without asking you. Does not exist on iOS and never has.
Whether you update via OTA or via iTunes, what happens is that you recieve a notification that there is a new OS version, and it tells you what it is, and what the benefits are. And then you can chose to install it if you want to.
One click install for sure. Auto (forced), certainly not. Not even possible, never mind default.
He's not being a wee bit honest. You're being either ignorant or a liar.
That was the second part of his point. That developers can't use more recent libraries, because the majority of Android users are still on ancient OS versions.
The result being that the quality of Android Apps lags ever further behind iPhone, because even where a new Android version provides a feature for developers to use, most of them aren't using it until it's years old.
I don't think that's the criteria. I think the criteria is that the device is powerful enough and has the features required for the OS update. I think they got it wrong once... allowing iPhone 3G users to update to iOS 4, when it didn't have the horsepower required.
I wish I had mod points. That would be an insightful comment on just about any slashdot story.
The problem is that it won't be the default handler for "map links" and other types of integration, like viewing your photos spatially on a map.
1) The map link itself specifies if it's a link to Apple Maps or Google Maps. If used on a device that doesn't have the appropriate app, the web based version of the appropriate map is opened.
2) Apple Maps may have some errors. But in what way would that get in the way of viewing photo locations. It wouldn't.
You seem to be worrying about things that aren't real problems.
If your comment reflects typical thinking at networks, then those apple Geniuses probably are right. It is the networks fault.
Networks have access to iOS betas and release candidates in the months before a release. They should be testing it, and problems that come up should be reported to Apple or fixed on the network, depending on who's at fault.
It shouldn't come as a surprise on the day the iOS version launches.
Wrong. Apple makes betas and release candidates available to developers in the months before the final release. They are tested, and they are generally very high quality when they are released.
Your comment is just fandroid bullshit.
If Windows users had to get their Windows updates from Dell, HP, or the guy at the local computer store who built their PC for them, you might have a point.
So Microsoft got their business model right and Google got it wrong.
There's a glut of Application updates right now, because developers have updated their software to take advantage of iOS6 and the bigger screen of the iPhone. That'll be why. She won't have been redownloading the same apps, but new versions of the apps.
My phone works. I'm in no more rush to download updates for it than I am to download the latest updates for Windows or Firefox. The only people who seem to get really worked up over software updates are the Applephiles.
Be honest. Your Android phone has never actually notified you that there's a new version of the OS, has it?
If you don't, then you get updates same as iPhone does, via OTA - if they ever come.
Surely that's why the "theoretical" word came up. Because for most people the updates for Android never come.
That's the major reason why the adoption rate is pathetic compared with iOS.
Apple controls the hardware and software.
Yes. That's one of the reason they are better products.
You're singling out a specific version of the Galaxy Nexus which is renown for having compatibility issues (different antenna if I'm not mistaken) and for being bogged down by Verizon's stupid involvement.
Funnily enough, when the issue of lack of Android OS updates has come up on Slashdot, there's always a few people who say "Buy a Nexus and that's not a problem." And now you are saying it IS a problem for at least one of the Nexus devices.
This is one of the problems with Android. It's a bit of a lottery what your experience will be depending on which model you come out of the phone store with. And with new models coming out every week, it's beyond the average person to keep up with the pros and cons of each model.
I'm just updating to iOS6 now. Tell me a capital city that is misspelled or misplaced, and I will look it up.
I would imagine that the corresponding crew within Apple is working like mad to fix all the hot issues after they've been plastered all over the Net.
For sure. So already, 4 days after release, Apple Maps is already much improved. This is exactly why mapping solutions are released to the public before their data is perfect.
Apart from a handful of major cities with the fancy 'flyover' feature, every where I've tried so far has cruddy satellite imagery. How are they gonna crowdsource that?
Back when Google launched Street View, only a few cities were covered. IIRC, in the UK it was only central London. But as time whet on, more cities were covered, and then more and more countryside.
The flyover feature is achieved by Apple contracting planes to fly over cities, photographing from multiple angles. Just like Street View, as time goes on, more and more places will be covered. In the meantime, they are using existing satellite imagery from their various data suppliers - and it's of very variable quality.
Right, and so did Apple. It was Apple's responsibility to start working on their in-house solution early enough to have it ready by the time the Google contract expired.
They did. Apple have been working on it for years. And it's not only ready, it's shipped. It's not perfect, but no mapping solution is, especially v1.0.
Right, and so did Apple. It was Apple's responsibility to start working on their in-house solution early enough to have it ready by the time the Google contract expired.
It is not only ready, it's shipped. ALL mapping solutions have shipped with plenty of data errors. They need people actually using the system to clear those errors up. And remember it's a moving target. The road system and points of interest change day by day. A map system that tries to have perfect data before it ships won't ever ship.
They can chose: there are lots of mapping solutions on the App Store. And as soon as Google release it's own version of maps there, it'll be one of the choices.
It may well be true of the majority. Just because the reviewers are looking for errors and find them (perhaps by googling for them), doesn't necessarily mean that they are so common the average user will notice them in general usage. Back in the day, people used to have fun finding the most ridiculous errors in Google maps too. But it didn't mean that Google maps was problematic for the average user in those early days.
No, Google Maps for iOS 5 and earlier does not have turn by turn directions. Not even mute ones. It has routes between two points, drawn on a north upward 2D map. There's no indicator saying what direction you need to take at the next junction.
It's only been out a couple of days. Rather too soon to call it unpopular. For sure, the people reviewing it have been pointing out it's got more errors than Google Maps at this time. That doesn't mean people won't use it. Being pre-installed means a lot of people will use it, just because it's already there. And the fact that it has turn-by-turn nav, which Google maps didn't may make many people prefer it. So it may very well prove very popular.
And it's by having lots of real users out there, that the accuracy of the maps will be improved.
Remember when people wrote off Safari because it didn't support Flash? In reality it wasn't much of a problem, and became less so as time went on.