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iOS 6 Adoption Tops 25% After Just 48 Hours
An anonymous reader writes "iOS 6 has seen rapid adoption among iPhone and iPad users, reports developer David Smith. Smith's applications like Audiobooks get around 100k downloads weekly and he's taken to mapping the adoption of Apple's software releases over the last couple of years. This update's data shows a 35.4% adoption of iOS 6, with iOS 5.x holding court at 71.5% adoption. That's a pretty rapid pace, eclipsing Android Jelly Bean's 2-month adoption levels of 1.2% easily."
According to what I have read, anyway.
It's a little un-Apple-like.
Yes, because comparing the release of Jelly Bean on a multitude of manufacturer, carrier, and hardware platforms is an entirely reasonable comparison to the release of an iOS locked to specific hardware, from one manufacturer.
That's a pretty rapid pace, eclipsing Android Jelly Bean's 2-month adoption levels of 1.2% easily
Of course Jelly Bean's adoption level is very low because what, 3-4 devices support Jelly Bean officially? And those 3-4 devices are a small percentage of all Android devices. Heck, even the "flagship" Android phone the Galaxy S III won't be getting Jelly Bean until the end of September or later. While all iOS devices are Apple phones/tablets/media players and the iOS 6 update is available for all of them made within the past couple of years.
Taxation is legalized theft, no more, no less.
The good news about living in a walled garden is that you benefit from Steve Jobs's obsessive need for state of the art. The bad news about living in a walled garden is that you have to live with his obsession for control.
And yes, I know he's dead. But his obsessions live!
I hate doing updates for my iOS devices. Every time I've ever done it it kills the device and I wind up wiping it and doing a reinstall. It has always worked so far but why does an update brick the device every time? It's happened with every touch I've ever owned and the tradition is alive and well with my "New" iPad/iPad 3. You'd think Apple who normally has a reputation for seamless upgrades would be better than this?
That's great?
No, but wake me up when it hits 125%.
Well when you're Apple and have a unique position among the handset vendors where the carrier doesn't insist on fucking with your device software and lets you treat the end user as the customer, and interact with them directly to provide support, then it's a lot easier.
When you have the mistaken perspective (easy to make in the US) that the carrier is your customer and you should cater to them, shit happens like ancient devices without updates. Not that it'd help blatantly irresponsible companies like Motorola, who repeatedly abandon handsets after a year or so, but may be they'd be more willing to do a better job (or more directly feel the effects) if they weren't protected by contracts and buffered from reality by the carriers.
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>35.4% adoption of iOS 6, with iOS 5.x holding court at 71.5% adoption
So, iOS 5.x and 6.0 have reached 106.9% adoption on his site? That's impressive.
iOS upgrades and Android upgrades are not comparable.
Most android devices aren't even eligible to upgrade to the next major versions. My droid charge for example is stuck at 2.3.x.
... the really funny part is it also eclipses the over-one-year-old Ice Cream Sandwich (4.0) as well.
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Don't forget to get the new youtube app, since apple dumped the native one for no good reason.
Make it easy / free for people to upgrade, and they will upgrade!
http://insights.chitika.com/2012/chrome-18-sees-high-adoption-rates-33-of-users-are-running-latest-version-in-under-a-week/
No, it is comparing apples to oranges as usual. I wonder what is the adoption of JB on Google devices. For me, it is about 100%, as all my google android gadgets run JB.
That's a pretty rapid pace, eclipsing Android Jelly Bean's 2-month adoption levels of 1.2% easily
To be fair, that's not due to lack of interest. That's due to companies like Samsung who don't step on the gas to keep these devices up to date. Just a month ago I finally got ICS on my Tab.
"I like to lick butts!" by MobileTatsu-NJG (#32700246) (Score:5, Informative)
Google refused to offer it as part of the Maps app for iOS and used it as a competitive advantage for Android. I doubt that sat well with Apple and this is their response.
All it shows is how many IOS users are too stupid to keep iTunes from automatically applying updates.
Or buy them !!
Let's make him rich beyond his wildest dreams !!
From the lighter side of life !!
Let's do it because it IS APPLE, even if only a part !!
We ALL deserve it !!
So, in the words of one John Blutarsky, let's DO IT !!
i really think this headline should read: 'locked in users who always click OK to on-screen prompts, did in fact click OK to yet another on-screen prompt without reading it.'
You'll also note the percentage of iphone users who dont know a thing about their phones and what they do.
check out this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdIWKytq_q4
i esp like the guy who has the 4S that thinks this new 5 is so much quicker, slicker than his.
how long it was going to take ---------->http://pastebin.com/Rekh6jYD
but then i found out
it wasnt that big of a surprise
Tried it out on a spare iTouch, given the history. Stanza showed how much it liked the change by locking up on display setting changes.
Yeah, yeah, I know, the Dread Pirate Bezos bought Stanza because it was a serious threat to his precious-piece-of-trash-kindle.
Phooey on Apple and Bezos both.
Apparently there is a bug in Safari for IO6 that causes caching of POST requests, which is causing all sorts of web developers to scramble like crazy to implement cache busting in their apps.
Thanks apple.
Johnkoerner.com
There's also the fact that Android is not limited by design, or artificially by Google in what parts of the interface can be replaced. There's really very little that that newer versions of the OS can do that cannot also be done with an app. I have an older Android phone ... I can run ICS on it, but still run Gingerbread as I find it leaves me more memory on my old hardware.
One data point: VZ Galaxy Nexus reports my "system is currently up to date" as of right now. That is, I'm running 4.0.4.
This makes me...what's the word...anxious. Because every time I read something about JB, I grab my Nexus and look. Shrug. I love my phone. Wouldn't switch it for an iPhone if you gave me one.
(I did switch desktops a couple months ago, because someone actually did offer to buy me a mac pro if I would quit using my windows box.)
damaged by dogma
Really what's the upgrade benefit? Apple has marketing on it's side. Google fails at this miserably. I could go and download Jellybean but what benefit do I get? I have no idea what new features (if any) Google includes in their OS update.
As for slickness, it depends on the device. The Nexus series receives OTA updates which I have no experience with but I know the Galaxy S series will update when you connect to the computer with Kies. errr let me make that IF you connect to the computer with Kies. Most people I know with Galaxy S phones don't actually run Kies on their computer so they wouldn't know about the update. My girlfriend does but I can't even convince her to upgrade to IceCreamSandwich let alone to Jellybean. Every time I say that she should just click upgrade rather than ignore on the screen when she connects the phone she asks why and I reply with ... "errrrrr..... " and come up empty about what that killer feature is that should encourage us to upgrade our phones.
At least Windows XP doesn't run Direct X 10 or IE9, but there's little motivation to upgrade an Android phone.
In Safari, go to www.maps.google.com.
Click the middle icon at the bottom of the screen
Select "Add to home screen"
I don't see a benefit. All apps I have now worked just fine back with Gingerbread.
Are Android users the technological equivalent of the Amish?
Those advances in libraries that developers crave, they are tools of the devil!
Sure all the apps you have now worked fine on an ancient OS. And if adoption rates stay so low, that will remain true for some time to come. But what happens as other platforms offer developers more and more complex and deep libraries for applications?
Eventually Android as a platform is going to get terribly behind in more advanced applications, simply because developers have to re-invent more and more wheels just to make it run on the predominant version of the Android platform.
Another thing that kind of astounds me about Android in this regard is, Google does have some control over Android - but is allowing brand new devices still to ship with 2.0. You could at least win the update war through device attrition but not if you allow the older versions to ship out forever!
The one area that will keep up (mostly) is games, because really they are just using custom engines that tell the host OS to get out of the way. Even there though they rely on updates to OpenGL for more complex effects.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Apple maps is still a little raw. But I've had Google direct me to closed stores, and to THREE imaginary Arby's when driving through Nevada.
Apple maps will get better too, now that they are crowdsourcing map errors. That's what Google had to do also.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
You can use maps.google.com in Safari.
Or you can open up one of several mapping applications that have alternate maps.
Complaining about not being able to "choose" a map is far different than the complaint about not being able to choose a browser. You often use a browser by opening links from other apps; Almost always when looking for something on a map you open the map yourself so you can choose whatever you like to open.
In fact old-school Google map links will open in maps.google.com right now on iOS...
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
So, it's iOS vs Nexus Android, and iOS vs non-Nexus Android now? You'll be sure to let us know in other iOS vs Android discussions, right?
And what does the iOS vs Nexus marketshare look like today?
Up till now new updates added new features and didn't take anything away, so there was little reason not to update.
Given all the trouble with the maps application on 6 (if you're not in the US, it's largely worse than the old maps app), we'll have to see if this attitude changes for the next release or not.
The big problem for me is I mostly use the google map for its *excellent* bus and train routing. I can just drop in an address, let it pull my current location from the GPS and have it give me really great bus/train combinations.
I've used this heavily before as well.
However I would not say it was "great". If you use it for one place for a while, you start to notice that it doesn't really have a good handle on where exactly the transit is. After a while, I would notice buses that take the same route as the one it's directing me to wait for, passing by before the bus I wanted - even though it would have been better to get on those first.
Google transit nav suffers from the same disease so many transit apps have, a real lack of context of what else is really happening or slightly different routes that might be better.
Yes, right now it's painful if you cannot find apps that help you with transit in iOS (though there are already quite a good crop of them). But over time what iOS should end up seeing is apps specific to a region that do a way better job of really helping you with transit options, because they can be more tailored to the local situation - like for instance in cities with rental bike stations, why does that not show up in google transit? Before too long it will in IOS...
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Other note is, perhaps Google would not let Apple continue shipping with Google maps. The license was up, who knows what heady terms Google demanded.
Competition is good, so I look forward to Apple spending a few billion bringing up a nice mapping alternative.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
I'm not so sure you can do everything in ICS on a Gingerbread phone using just apps. Things like notification swipe-to-dismiss were added in AOSP gingerbread builds, but you won't get Jelly Bean's extended notifications, or "Project Butter", or even hardware-accelerated UI.
I had a sig once. It was lost in the great storm of '09.
Yeah, my 3GS is eligible for iOS 6 - but there's no way I'm upgrading until Google's standalone Maps app is released.
As just a map to read, I find Apple's maps more readable.
Yes SOMETIMES search is not as good. But mostly I have been able to find the same things. If you can't, just use maps.google.com in Safari or even Bing maps in safari. Or one of the myriad offline/online mapping applications (like Waze which is free).
Not to upgrade iOS6 because you've bought into the hype around maps being bad is kind of silly.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Yup, there's one born every minute.
Anyone updated their iPod? I've got a 4th Gen, any point in going to iOS6? I suppose at some point it'll pretty much be mandatory..but until then...? I think mine's become quite a bit more sluggish since going from iOS4 to 5, so worries this will be even slower... It's weird that when hitting the top button, it takes 1-5 seconds for it to 'click' and turn off the screen....
ios6 was just released and they're already at 25% adoption? ics is at what, 9? jb 3?
we are tired of manufacturer's and providers dictating when and how we get updates.
oh, and we are tired of manufacturers skinning the android os so much that there's no easy way to reverse it.
All I can guess is that IOS5 must have REALLY, REALLY sucked!
Three Squirrels
Please wipe the foam from your mouth, then restate your question again. I don't really understand what you are asking about. It certainly does not address the point I am making.
Fanbois ...
You are comparing two totally different things here. Android (Linux) is a general OS and iOS is a specific one. This means that the iOS can take all models into account but that is not possible from a AOSP-perspective, since each phone model using Android has a code delta with phone HW specific adaptations.
A better way to compare (but still not perfect) is to compare a specific Android phone models JB update pace with a iOS6 update pace.
You don't have the capacity to read numbers right and are too stupid to work with them
Here is a clue: That 71.5% is out of the 35.4%.
I know ... you are probably too dumb to understand that direct response too. After all ... it has numbers.
I'm too dumb to understand that. 71.5% out of the 35.4% are running ios6? and the 35.4 are running either ios6 or ios5? WHAT THE FUCK KIND OF REPORTING IS THAT??
world was created 5 seconds before this post as it is.
Android Diehard here.
I'm running a G1, the first Android phone. I love it. Looking at 2/3 year old phones (+1 month) for an upgrade.
It's not like Apple released a new filesystem. It's just a couple of Apps. Android makes me install new apps sometimes. Bloody pain since I have 92 Megs of space on the phone (Still think MicroSD is smart, removable storage is smart in a droppable device).
Check for yourself, google iOS6 features.
I found this - http://www.sctimes.com/article/20120923/BUSINESS/309230014/iOS-6-offers-features?nclick_check=1.
Yes it sucks Google is stuck behind the 8 ball on updates. Their OS is WAY better. But the kind of garbage they put in these updates is increasingly new apps and stores and ads and other garbage.
I love having a custom OS (running Ginger Yoshi, thinking of changing to BeatMod, really miss track change with volume button holding). If Google cared they'd test roms and let them be updated. Changing OS on an Android device is trivial.
Now if only changing Google users were as simple.
Anyway install Tethering, Wireless Tether, get Root. Then anything they "update" had better be bloody good or I can get it myself.
Anyone else noticed Android has crappy Blue Tooth file support?(None) Only tried it to Linux but that should work better anyway.
Yes it is – it means that developers are likely to be able to target iOS 6 very soon, giving them the ability to use more features and not have to make hacks to have things work on earlier OSes... great!
Since it has been widely recognized that Steve Jobs was an absolute asshole, how exactly is him killing himself through his asshole attitudes a bad thing?
At least he finally did something good with his dead. Homeopathy does not work. If it doesn't work for the rich and evil, it won't work for you. Get real medicine from real doctors.
MMO Quests are like orgasms:
You may solo them, I prefer them in a group.
Samsung can answer the question: You and what army of killer robots.
MMO Quests are like orgasms:
You may solo them, I prefer them in a group.
I hope they're working on an accurate maps app as soon as possible. Of course if the poor users weren't locked into this retarded walled garden Google probably could have given them working maps immediately.
And likewise very quickly.
Given so many Apple iPhones are tied to a carrier and that carrier requires updates to be applied and this is an update (and that many people have iPhone contracts that replace their phones regularly, again being tied in to the contract), wake me up when there's something important or suprising on.
Thank you for the sane answer. Android isn't to blame for the failings of lousy manufacturer!!! It's amazing how many people whine about their crappy device and then put the blame on Android.
On my iPad and my iPhone. So I guess adoption could be even higher.
I haven't updated because I like the google map app and the YouTube app and iOS6 brings nothing of value to my iPhone 4 or iPad 3 where I live. It's really a downgrade since the new maps are horrible.
Of course I have the option of installing map apps from a local map company which works just as well as google maps except from the lack of street view.
But I can't see what's wrong with people updating their software when they get the update notification. I thought that it was what we would like people to do to avoid security problems? At least that is the general opinion voiced around here when the latest virus/trojan/malware etc gets discussed here.
I like Google transit routing, although there is certainly room for improvement. Sometimes it will recommend a route that will leave you stranded for an extended period of time if its estimate of travel time turns out to be a bit optimistic. I'd like to have a transit routing app that would give me a choice of the fastest route or the most robust one (i.e. with a little more time for connections or with a later connection without a big delay). I'm hoping that Apple's decision to link to 3rd party apps for this feature will result in more competition and better transit routing.
In the meantime, Google's transit routing can still be accessed on the iPhone at www.maps.google.com
In fact, there are numerous map programs available for iPhone, including some free ones, so users are indeed free to choose whatever map program they want to use. Personally, I like Navigon, which isn't free, but which is quite reliable (although I've never used any GPS mapping app or device that didn't occasionally make routing errors, sometimes ludicrous ones).
The Google-based version of Apple Maps had some nice features, but it hadn't really advanced with the times, and no longer met user expectations for a mapping app. It seems likely that Google was not highly motivated to produce an up-to-date mapping app for iOS, because its improved version was a selling point for devices using their own Android OS. So Apple had little choice but to produce their own mapping app, and deal the problems that will inevitably arise when there are suddenly millions of users, because no amount of testing is going to catch every glitch worldwide.
In the meantime, most of the functionality of the Google version of Apple Maps is still available at www.maps.google.com.
1. The adoption rate of Jellybean among Android users whose devices actually have the upgrade available is probably about the same as the adoption rate of iOS 6 among Apple users whose devices have the upgrade available.
2. In other news 25% of iOS users are now pissed about their device's Maps app.
Seriously, can't editors even add up percents?
Yeah, Apple achieves high rates of adoption by using proprietary methods to ensure you use iTunes to talk to your phone and iTunes pushes you hard to update your device's software. But they don't provide a means to revert your device to a previous release that worked better. So millions (or ALL) iOS users are going to be stuck with whatever Apple has broken (this time, mostly the maps app) until they fix it -- if ever. Aren't you glad you shelled out all that money for an iPhone and aren't you happy that iOS makes updating so easy?
Now the cat is out of the bag. The ONLY reason mapping ever worked right on your iPhone was thanks to Google. Didn't know that? Well you do NOW. You'd think the guys at Apple would be smart enough not to release their replacement until it was comparable to Google's but no such luck. This is a major blunder, brought on by Apple's burning need to kill off Android.
Smart people wait for the suckers to suffer through the problems of a new OS version, and change when they know it's going to work as well as the old one. Stupid people upgrade asap and end up with things like Vista. All this really does is show once again that iPhone users are stupid.
These two release processes are nothing alike. Adoption percentage means nothing when different devices are built around different operating systems.
One reason to upgrade from Android 2.x to Android 4.x is that your login cookies are less likely to get stolen in transit. Right now, some web sites have to keep users of Android Browser for Android 2.x and Internet Explorer for Windows XP on unencrypted HTTP because those platforms don't support name-based virtual hosting with HTTPS.
Apple has one thing going for it, very few models with fairly little variation between models. This means that the OS can be EASILY updated for every iOS device without a ton of effort. With Android, there are a ton of different hardware combinations from many different vendors, and to offer an OS update, you need DRIVERS that will work on each model. This is also why you have driver issues with each architecture change in Windows, because getting hardware vendors to get good drivers out requires EFFORT.
Now, considering that fairly few devices have come with Jelly Bean on them, it makes sense that the adoption rate would be low. Device drivers seem to have come out, and device makers have been working to certify that JB works PROPERLY on existing devices before doing the release.
go for apple, they do the UI well, and they are generally reliable, but I for the life of me can't even begin to see why a techie would put up with the insane control freaks at apple when you can control your own device and OS using android.
If you can't program your vcr, or if you still have one Apple is the fruit for you.
errr....umm...*whooosh* *whoosh* Is this thing on ?
The interface may be a tiny bit smoother, but other than that there's no real difference, no killer feature and critically no lack of features on the older systems.
One difference is the ability to use HTTPS with web sites on shared hosting plans. Unlike Android 4, Android 2 doesn't support Server Name Indication, meaning it'll see only the certificate for the first domain hosted on a given IP, and you'll get a certificate error when you try to visit the others.
Yes, the lack of a Apple voice routing app was an unfortunate consequence of relying on Google. Google never provided voice routing, and the terms of use for Google's data specifically prohibited using it for that purpose.
But comments like yours make me think that people who have never owned an iPhone have simply no notion of the richness and diversity of 3rd party apps available for iOS. Like virtually everybody who has a need for it, I've had voice turn-by-turn navigation on my iPhone for years. There are a wealth of such apps for iOS, at a range of prices down to free. The only thing we haven't had until now is an Apple-branded one. Which explains why the glitches with the new Apple Maps app haven't dissuaded much of anybody from upgrading to the new version of iOS.
It occurs to me that there's more than one reason to adopt the next release. I don't have the stats handy, but I suspect Windows ME users, for instance, adopted XP at a rapid pace. When the previous version is pants, one tends to reach for the next version in the (sometimes vain) hope that it fixes at least some of the issues.
Eliminating support for the previous version looks like a good reason on paper, but I don't see a lot of evidence (except perhaps in corporations) that it really works that well. (I personally know of a common, currently used control system that still runs on embedded Windows 98.)
And then, there's the personality cult. That one seems to work fairly well. Ahem.
Oliver's law of assumed responsibility: If you're seen fixing it, you will be blamed for breaking it.
Or, you know, keep the google maps app for another %^%$^% year, and release the new maps when it is ready?
What is ready though? As I noted Google maps still can't get things right.
With maps there is no choice. You release something, and get millions of users to point you to errors they find. THAT is how you build a maps app. And that does not happen if you never ship.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
it's not like there's a choice.. plug the iDevice, "ding dong, un update is available, etc.. etc..." done...
OK iOS 6 is being installed... I am surprised this is news.. especially on slashdot, I would understand on a different site.. but here.. move on! nothing to see here.
Clearly Android users are more satisfied than iOS users.
That may be a slight against the OS or it may be a slight against the user base.
The Samsung commercial pretty much sums it up. iOS users are willing to camp out for a phone that has features that other phones have had for months/years. A person who is willing to camp-out for a phone is either a person who is not satisfied with their existing phone or(and) not a person who is easily satisfied - while at the same time hold their phone as a type of idol.
-CF
http://crave.cnet.co.uk/mobiles/ios-6-features-that-wont-work-on-your-older-iphone-or-ipad-50008227/
It seems like many people are having issues with iOS 6 upgrade on their old iPhones (not the new 5). Is there a list of known iPhone 4S' iOS 6 issues of them so far?
Thank you in advance. :)
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