Both Attic Attack and Ant Attack were fantastic games, strangely all the better for having no clue what you were supposed to be doing !
Elite was the justification for buying the BBC a hard drive. There was another good game I remember for it involving a space ship with a big ball attached to the back that you'd have to manauever through caves etc. It was possibly called Thrust but was very simple and totally addictive. Like lunar lander but much much better.
Speak for yourself, we had a PC to replace the old BBC Micro before 3.1 and Windows 95 and so did a lot of other people I knew. I haven't a clue what I used to do with it mind you.
Maybe they could outsource the hit to Al Quaeda or some other terrorist outfit, they need the money and the support of a major industry might help rebuild their reputation.
I'm surprised the movie industry doesn't just have them shot and be done with it, it'd be cheaper in the long term and the relative evilness of the act wouldn't impact there current evilness quotient too much.
Honestly though the basic fact is that all trains in the UK are crap because there simply doesn't appear to be enough track to run any trains reliably so there's not much point judging intercity services on reliabilty because they're all as bad as each other. Judged on the quality of service/comfort of the trains Virgin are way ahead of all the other operators in my area who basically don't seem to give a crap about giving their customers a pleasant journey or doing anything to eat into their profits e.g. employing cleaners.
That's probably because there seems only to be one line to the NW which all train companies have to use, any delays, breakdowns etc for trains down the line also affects all the trains behind them. Virgin Trains are more often late than they are on time but this is most commonly due to problems with other trains and other train companies ahead of them or signals none of which Virgin can do anything about.
That's correct, Virgin Trains are very good as trains go. I have the choice between catching either Centro Trains or Virgin Trains to Derby everyday and Virgin is clearly a better service.
Centro: litter everywhere, dirty, run down looking, rude/bored and occasionally abusive ticket collectors, no information at all on delays, connections, no shop, no power points, toilets usually filthy
Virgin: generally clean - they have a cleaner on every train, toilets OK, on board shop, staff generally polite, friendly and cheerfull looking, good information about delays, transfers, connections etc etc
Richard Branson said he would introduce High Speed trains and no one really believed him but now they are in service and he has pretty much delivered what he promised he would.
I can't actually access that web site at work. However all that piece you have quoted tells us is that non invasive techniques can yield information as can implanted electrodes.
How you manage to extrapolate this to accusations of needless torture is interesting but has no basis in any of the facts you have quoted.
It is probable that the scientists know what information they are wishing to gather from this experiment and have decided that it cannot be gained through non invasive techniques but can be gained through using implants, this is a perfectly rational decision and does not make the scientists involved "monsters", or "torturers" or "evil people".
Your entire justifcation for saying that the monkeys have been needlessly tortured is that firstly you have no idea what the scientists are actually studying and secondly you believe experimenting on animals equates to torture.
The vast majority of people believe that experimenting on animals is an acceptable practice and does not consitute torture.
If from reading the text you have quoted you have arrived at the conclusion that needless torture is being carried out then you are basing your opinion on prejudicial belief alone which makes you a fundamentalist.
Personally I don't enjoy torturing or killing animals for fun but I can't see any reason why I shouldn't do that if I wanted to and you haven't given me any good reason why I shouldn't.
We aren't abusing mice, we are using them to further our understanding of how things work. Finding out how things work seems to be a natural and powerful drive in our own species.
Even with Cats I'm sure they play with potential prey creatures more to watch how they react and get paws on experience of their prey rather than because they just enjoy torturing things. They probably enjoy it too but I doubt that's the reason they engage in this kind of torture.
His argument was that vulnerabilities are commodities which can be bought and sold freely.
Drugs are commodities which cannot always be bought and sold freely because with some of them it is illegal to do this. I don't think it's illegal to sell information about vulnerabilities in software.
The grandparent was trying to say that the selling of vulnerabilities is illegal, which it isn't.
Er no, Excel is a spreadsheet application and a part of Microsofts Office Productivity suite and is not used for running an Internet Server.
If you bothered to read Microsofts own guidelines you would see that IIS is the one you need to host the internet, it is also an excellent choice for 'intranets' ( they are like the internet but for companies to tell their staff how many new yachts the sales team have bought and advise on whether the current economic climate will allow the the on-going pay freeze to finally thaw )
It seems to me that E-Bay are behaving somewhat unfairly in pulling this auction. The seller has clearly devoted some time and effort into discovering this piece of information and has behaved responsibly by informing Microsoft of the problem in their software.
I see no reason why he shouldn't be compensated for the work he's done here and if Microsoft aren't paying him then it's only fair that he offers his work to the highest bidder, it's perhaps unfortunate for Microsoft that he can leverage the most value for his work before they have had a chance to patch the problem but the seller doesn't have any obligation to Microsoft and their problems are no concern of his.
So it they are not soliders then they must be criminals mustn't they ?
I realise that a policy of kidnapping people from around the world is a tricky area for the law to recognise and normal trials can run into all sorts of problems related to lack of evidence etc but I think the US should try and do a lot better than they are at the moment.
Yes that's what I found comical too. I'm sure the number of books we have from the 17th Century must number in the tens of thousands aside from all the documents and factual data which is available by the ton. The house up the road from me is older than this !
What kind of bullshit is this ? If they could get away with it Companies would be more than happy to employ enforcers to make you buy their products. They'd probably outsource the enforcing to contractors and in fact this has happened in the past when governments have been happy to let companies do what they like.
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Both Attic Attack and Ant Attack were fantastic games, strangely all the better for having no clue what you were supposed to be doing !
Elite was the justification for buying the BBC a hard drive. There was another good game I remember for it involving a space ship with a big ball attached to the back that you'd have to manauever through caves etc. It was possibly called Thrust but was very simple and totally addictive. Like lunar lander but much much better.
Speak for yourself, we had a PC to replace the old BBC Micro before 3.1 and Windows 95 and so did a lot of other people I knew. I haven't a clue what I used to do with it mind you.
Maybe they could outsource the hit to Al Quaeda or some other terrorist outfit, they need the money and the support of a major industry might help rebuild their reputation.
I actually meant to type "record labels" and "their" in that post, please forgive me if these mistakes cause any offence.
I'm surprised the movie industry doesn't just have them shot and be done with it, it'd be cheaper in the long term and the relative evilness of the act wouldn't impact there current evilness quotient too much.
Central have a 56% reliability rating over the last month, they're dreadful !
I'm fishing for a job !
Honestly though the basic fact is that all trains in the UK are crap because there simply doesn't appear to be enough track to run any trains reliably so there's not much point judging intercity services on reliabilty because they're all as bad as each other. Judged on the quality of service/comfort of the trains Virgin are way ahead of all the other operators in my area who basically don't seem to give a crap about giving their customers a pleasant journey or doing anything to eat into their profits e.g. employing cleaners.
I don't think Railtrack have anything to do with Space Travel so they should be OK.
That's probably because there seems only to be one line to the NW which all train companies have to use, any delays, breakdowns etc for trains down the line also affects all the trains behind them. Virgin Trains are more often late than they are on time but this is most commonly due to problems with other trains and other train companies ahead of them or signals none of which Virgin can do anything about.
That's correct, Virgin Trains are very good as trains go. I have the choice between catching either Centro Trains or Virgin Trains to Derby everyday and Virgin is clearly a better service.
Centro: litter everywhere, dirty, run down looking, rude/bored and occasionally abusive ticket collectors, no information at all on delays, connections, no shop, no power points, toilets usually filthy
Virgin: generally clean - they have a cleaner on every train, toilets OK, on board shop, staff generally polite, friendly and cheerfull looking, good information about delays, transfers, connections etc etc
Richard Branson said he would introduce High Speed trains and no one really believed him but now they are in service and he has pretty much delivered what he promised he would.
I can't actually access that web site at work. However all that piece you have quoted tells us is that non invasive techniques can yield information as can implanted electrodes.
How you manage to extrapolate this to accusations of needless torture is interesting but has no basis in any of the facts you have quoted.
It is probable that the scientists know what information they are wishing to gather from this experiment and have decided that it cannot be gained through non invasive techniques but can be gained through using implants, this is a perfectly rational decision and does not make the scientists involved "monsters", or "torturers" or "evil people".
Your entire justifcation for saying that the monkeys have been needlessly tortured is that firstly you have no idea what the scientists are actually studying and secondly you believe experimenting on animals equates to torture.
The vast majority of people believe that experimenting on animals is an acceptable practice and does not consitute torture.
If from reading the text you have quoted you have arrived at the conclusion that needless torture is being carried out then you are basing your opinion on prejudicial belief alone which makes you a fundamentalist.
Personally I don't enjoy torturing or killing animals for fun but I can't see any reason why I shouldn't do that if I wanted to and you haven't given me any good reason why I shouldn't.
I agree, play and practice are both important factors in human development as well.
"Often for no apparent reason"
Apparent to whom, the scientists running the experiments or fundamentalist activists unwilling to see anthing contrary to their extremist viewpoints ?
Animals are animals, humans are human and don't actually need any justification to hunt, kill, torture, eat or experiment on animals.
We aren't abusing mice, we are using them to further our understanding of how things work. Finding out how things work seems to be a natural and powerful drive in our own species.
Even with Cats I'm sure they play with potential prey creatures more to watch how they react and get paws on experience of their prey rather than because they just enjoy torturing things. They probably enjoy it too but I doubt that's the reason they engage in this kind of torture.
His argument was that vulnerabilities are commodities which can be bought and sold freely.
Drugs are commodities which cannot always be bought and sold freely because with some of them it is illegal to do this. I don't think it's illegal to sell information about vulnerabilities in software.
The grandparent was trying to say that the selling of vulnerabilities is illegal, which it isn't.
Er no, Excel is a spreadsheet application and a part of Microsofts Office Productivity suite and is not used for running an Internet Server.
If you bothered to read Microsofts own guidelines you would see that IIS is the one you need to host the internet, it is also an excellent choice for 'intranets' ( they are like the internet but for companies to tell their staff how many new yachts the sales team have bought and advise on whether the current economic climate will allow the the on-going pay freeze to finally thaw )
But they're not drugs so what sense would that make ?
It seems to me that E-Bay are behaving somewhat unfairly in pulling this auction. The seller has clearly devoted some time and effort into discovering this piece of information and has behaved responsibly by informing Microsoft of the problem in their software.
I see no reason why he shouldn't be compensated for the work he's done here and if Microsoft aren't paying him then it's only fair that he offers his work to the highest bidder, it's perhaps unfortunate for Microsoft that he can leverage the most value for his work before they have had a chance to patch the problem but the seller doesn't have any obligation to Microsoft and their problems are no concern of his.
The problem with Digg is the execrable nature of the commentary.
So it they are not soliders then they must be criminals mustn't they ?
I realise that a policy of kidnapping people from around the world is a tricky area for the law to recognise and normal trials can run into all sorts of problems related to lack of evidence etc but I think the US should try and do a lot better than they are at the moment.
"multinational corporations that manufacture overseas"
I wonder why they're called mutlinationals ?
Yes that's what I found comical too. I'm sure the number of books we have from the 17th Century must number in the tens of thousands aside from all the documents and factual data which is available by the ton. The house up the road from me is older than this !
"Nice try. Free markets abhor the use of force"
What kind of bullshit is this ? If they could get away with it Companies would be more than happy to employ enforcers to make you buy their products. They'd probably outsource the enforcing to contractors and in fact this has happened in the past when governments have been happy to let companies do what they like.
I misread that as "a uniformed electorate seems to be the norm these days" which may well turn out the be case some day.