It seemed to me he was more concerned that the correctness of the generated code was being compromised by the optimizations. I would expect the would love a small, correct compiler that they could add various security enhancements (e.g. stack protection) in a straightforward manner.
Plus, it really doesn't answer the question. What is driving a deadline that removes an announced feature with code submitted and in testing? I can see if the code was so bad that they just decided to chuck it and stat anew, but that doesn't seem to be happening. It would seem you would hold your source lock down until you could stabilize your announce features. Is there some external force that is making a hard release deadline?
I guess I am a little confused what the rush is. Can't they just hold the release until they get this feature correct? It is not like they are selling a product and need the churn to make revenue.
C++ remains as the only proper object-oriented language. Despite all the years of continuous development in languages, there has yet arisen an overall better object-oriented language.
"I invented the term Object-Oriented, and I can tell you I did not have C++ in mind." -- Alan Kay
Just because they are coming after you C++ folks, doesn't mean you should attack Objective-C. We get even less respect (failed Smalltalkers / Apple Lackeys) than you.
I just hope development on Croquet doesn't stall now, otherwise us cyberspace-lusting techno-hopefuls will just have to wait for the inevitable (but still hopefully far-off) day where you can open Word documents and Excel spreadsheets from inside World of Warcraft.
I guess 68K -> Intel -> PowerPC -> Intel isn't so bad. Besides, it will be nice to get CPU's from a company that actually wants to sell chips to PC makers instead of embedded system makers.
(4) The first Intel boxes from Apple will be 12 months from now
less than 12 months - Jobs said there would be Intel boxes in the marketplace before the next WWDC - probably early 2006 for Mac mini and portables.
On a side note, I was at the Apple store in the Mall of America (MN) and I saw 3 macs (2 iMacs and 1 eMac) bought while I was there (40 minutes - getting iPod replaced).
I take it you disagree (in fairly strong and stupid terms) with my decision not to buy a new PowerMac until a model with PCI-Express is available. When a new, better expansion bus is being adopted by the video card industry to replace AGP, it seems very stupid (not for you though) to buy a computer without it, especially when I will keep that computer for 3 to 5 years. I do not want to spend $2K+ on a computer and be stuck with the current crop of AGP video cards.
I can continue with my current Mac until a proper replacement is available.
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It seemed to me he was more concerned that the correctness of the generated code was being compromised by the optimizations. I would expect the would love a small, correct compiler that they could add various security enhancements (e.g. stack protection) in a straightforward manner.
I guess I am a little confused what the rush is. Can't they just hold the release until they get this feature correct? It is not like they are selling a product and need the churn to make revenue.
even a blind man will hit the dart-board, eventually, if throwing enough darts.....
New Business Plan:
1. Build transaction database engine
2. let MySQL license it in their dual licensing scheme
3. Get bought by Oracle
MySQL might want to build their own engine or branch a BSD / Public Domain (e.g. SQLite) engine. It would sure keep this stuff from continuing.
Once again "If you go the dual-licensing route - you need to own the code"
how about you spend some of that money on actual writers.......
Be had some funky functions thrown in - Newton was just as bad (I seem to remember something like hold_your_horses).
Dude is going to make a mint off slashdot
Well, maybe all this will start more people looking at PostgreSQL.
"I invented the term Object-Oriented, and I can tell you I did not have C++ in mind." -- Alan Kay
Just because they are coming after you C++ folks, doesn't mean you should attack Objective-C. We get even less respect (failed Smalltalkers / Apple Lackeys) than you.
Apple / NeXT takes a reference counting approach. It is not automatic, but it works well once you understand the rules.
violets are blue
you just did a Cartesian Product
your DBA will be talking to you
thank you, thank you, shows at 7 and 10, remember to tip the waitstaff
oh great first mysql vs postgresql then vi vs emacs and now (in the same thread) we are going to get firefox vs everyone. great..... :)
The sad part is it is probably correct to repeat RSS multiple times.
Pentium-M 778 - 1.6 GHz - TDP of 10 watts
Pentium-M 780 - 2.26 GHz - TDP of 27 watts
Celeron 380 - 1.6 Ghz - TDP of 21 watts
I seem to remember an article stating that the Japanese 7-11 bought out the American parent company.
My Orc needs to do accounting?!?
I guess 68K -> Intel -> PowerPC -> Intel isn't so bad. Besides, it will be nice to get CPU's from a company that actually wants to sell chips to PC makers instead of embedded system makers.
Yep, pirates will just copy the whole HD-DVD in total and skip over the copy protection. Bit-by-bit copies will be made.
I'm with you, my current HDTV is useless for this player - glad I bought early.
less than 12 months - Jobs said there would be Intel boxes in the marketplace before the next WWDC - probably early 2006 for Mac mini and portables.
On a side note, I was at the Apple store in the Mall of America (MN) and I saw 3 macs (2 iMacs and 1 eMac) bought while I was there (40 minutes - getting iPod replaced).
I'll manage - a lot of books and extra pairs of glasses should work
I think we need the "+1 Evil" moderation
Evangelists believe what they say are facts... YMMV
I take it you disagree (in fairly strong and stupid terms) with my decision not to buy a new PowerMac until a model with PCI-Express is available. When a new, better expansion bus is being adopted by the video card industry to replace AGP, it seems very stupid (not for you though) to buy a computer without it, especially when I will keep that computer for 3 to 5 years. I do not want to spend $2K+ on a computer and be stuck with the current crop of AGP video cards.
I can continue with my current Mac until a proper replacement is available.