Who told you that? Sure you can. You can't "not get a Vista license" but you can sure get XP preinstalled now and probably for a long time into the future. A lot of the new platforms released in the last six months still don't support Vista at all. So you get the "professionally installed pre-downgrade" with the theoretical permission to run Vista, if you can get it to go.
Right now, ghost is still the most efficient way for us and our number of users, but I can see that changing.
And yet another corner of the mighty IT Ecosystem gets pulled under the Microsoft umbrella, with predictable results for competing platforms. It's a good thing there are open source solutions Microsoft can't kill.
They're after Adobe, too. All you Photoshop fans should be really nervous.
Genuine Windows Vista® 32 downgrade to Genuine Microsoft® Windows® XP Professional 32
That means it comes with a Vista license, but XP Pro installed. There is finally one "Vista installed" option, at $2199. XP Pro installed options start at $699. The "price" is decidedly not in Vista's favor here. I seriously doubt the major vendors are going to let go of XP before W7 is fully in the market, and maybe not even then for a year or more. They're not in the business of telling people they can't have what they want.
I was stunned that there's no national mandatory MOT for cars in the US.
I don't know how it is in Britain, but most places in the US the lack of your own motor vehicle qualifies you for "unemployable" status. Do that to enough of your constituents and you'll find out that not only do "unemployable" people vote, they hold a grudge for a long time. They also have a lot of free time to get politically active.
The Bangalore blog center has mod points too. That's part of the downside of a democratic moderation system. If you want to share your feelings in a forum that doesn't have moderation let me recommend CNet news or one of the other major tech news sites that allow comments. You'll do more good there anyway because here you're singing to the choir.
The real reason Vista really failed is the same people who are hyping up 7, the media.
Completely wrong. There are two reasons why Vista failed. The first is that it's a crap product. The media duly took their ad money and their Ferrari laptops and reported their unbiased finding that it was the coolest thing since sliced bread. They squandered their credibility because far and away most people who tried it hated it.
The second reason why Vista failed was us. We tried it. We put it through its paces. We compared it side-by-side with XP. We tried to prepare it for deployment to our myriad customers with their critical applications and legacy hardware, and found that it would not serve. Then we signed on to slashdot and cnet and ZDnet and every other news forum with comments and every time they posted yet another rave review we got up in the comments and told the truth. Never before have I seen such dissonance between news reportage of technology and the public comments available. We told our friends, our family. When we got a call on Saturday from Cousin Joe halfway across the country asking "XP or Vista for my new PC" we told him "Not Vista. If you can't get XP, get a mac." The consensus opinion became so strong that non-technical family members who had never tried it were warning me off of the thing.
That's why Vista failed. Will 7? I don't know. I've got it running and it doesn't seem bad yet. Windows explorer is a little crashy, but it's a beta. I haven't tried most of the critical apps that have to run before I'd recommend it, but the base system does not seem to have the dog-slow performance that Vista did. We'll see.
Have you actually installed this beast? It's easier to get Apache working, starting from "download the kernel source". The documentation is decidedly pathetic - it was clearly written by the marketing department. It's full of "it has this feature and that feature" and nothing about how to do anything.
No one benefits from it (except lining their pockets with no efforts on their part).
The winning lawyers profit. The losing lawyers profit. The judge profits with demand for his services. The clerk profits with record requests. The transcriptionist gets profit from her work.
Who doesn't profit? Generally, the parties at issue and the general public.
I've actually done this. I was in a hurry. As soon as it asked for registration I knew I was at the wrong site, but it should be no surprise that the theme of the sight was visually similar.
While I've made my own living in the distant past selling shareware for $3/app, that was back in the dim past when an online connection was a dialup compuserve account at best, or more typically a Fidonet BBS. Folks who pull this kind of thing these days are just crooked.
A 3.0GHz P4 w/512MB RAM and 40GB SATA. Intel 945 video. Performance is OK. Sleeps well. Wakes well. There are some video artifacts. Explorer is a little crashy, but it's a beta and I was surprised it ran at all with so little RAM. We shall see.
But where in North America (home of Intel, AMD, and Slashdot) are home users getting these legit HDTV streams, other than directly to a cable or satellite box?
If you try really hard you might imagine the hot legitimate market for high def video online is the same market that has been exploiting the cutting edge of art technology since, well, terra-cotta figurines.
I can probably burn the entire contents of the old disk to one DVD-ROM...:P
I'm sure she'll be thrilled with the improvement. You'll be a hero for a while. Cable internet is awesome. My cable provider just bumped me up from 4Mbit to about 15Mbit, at no extra cost. Don't forget to download and install all the updates, configure the firewall and install AV so you can get it all configured before you connect to the network. Time-to-exploit on a cable modem is under a minute.
Yeah, sometimes I don't bother with the install CD for XP. I just flash my pocket LED really fast into the open CDROM slot and simulate it for the optics on the drive. But you have to be careful at byte 0xFF00FFDD07, as that pattern is particularly tricky and you might wind up with OpenServer instead.
Personal bias: I gave up on Norton long before the founder sold both his company and his good name. The people who bought them haven't even tried to maintain the low bar Norton products set for them before the acquisition.
A brilliant man, he rested on his laurels almost too long to optimize his paycheck. I don't care for Norton products, though I've not tested the specific one you recommend.
For me ease of use is not as big a selling point as featureset, open architecture, and of course, free. I like to be fully paid up on my licensing, and that's easier to do when the programs I use are FOSS. It also makes it easier to customize stuff for my needs, which happens a lot. I have "special needs".
I expect the Independent Prosecutor is already shopping for office space.
Not because he's done anything. Just because that's what we do now. We elect them and then we spend their terms trying to throw them in prison. It's a sort of game.
isn't FREE software going to increase productivity?
Of course it is. You've found the problem exactly.
When people are more productive, you need fewer of them. So you can let the rest of them go. And they can go home and lose their mortgage. Which will then put a bite on their bank's ability to lend - to your company. That will put a pinch in your ability to produce, so you'll need fewer people to produce less. And around and around we go.
Efficiency and productivity are not always desirable goals. This is going to sound very odd, but one purpose of government is to deplete the surplus productivity, thereby preventing a surfeit of harmful leisure. They're not taxing us enough, but instead are providing our services mostly with borrowed money. That means we have excess productivity in the present day. In the macro scale, that means high unemployment. It's simple really.
Yeah, it's like that. The only reason they get their own pc at two isn't that I want them to use it. It's that I often have work to do in the evenings and it's hard to work a spreadsheet with a toddler in your lap enthusiastically trying to push the buttons. That, and my keyboards aren't very milk-tolerant. We go through a dozen keyboards a year or more.
OTOH when they 'write' it's generally scribbles at first but by seven we're writing English with proper grammar. My toddlers don't just play the online games. They win. A new game on NickJr.com is a big event because beaten games are boring. My five year old has completed Spore, unassisted. He gives me tips on how to play. He's proud that he knows some things I don't, but he can be a little abrasive about pointing that out. Kind of like slashdot, actually.
I don't think my kids are very unusual in this regard. I've always felt that little people, treated respectfully and with dignity, are capable of a lot of intellectual stuff that they ordinarily aren't thought capable of. I think they're usually conditioned by low expectations. I try to avoid that trap by letting them try stuff and not assuming they're not capable of figuring stuff out. Generally that means they will try anything and are incautious of failure.
In keeping with the topic however, yes, we monitor and control their Internet activity until they're sixteen. Mostly in self defence. Can't have the school complaining about them not attending because they were up all night chatting up their friends on MyFace; can't have them sharing files or downloading Warez for liability reasons. And, of course, can't have them meeting random strangers IRL or inviting all of the Internet over for a house party on the rare occasion that they're home alone.
They know their alphabet and can count to 20 by 12 mos. By 2 they have their own PC and can find thir favorite sites and can browse from there. They usually start Googling around 4.
I don't make them do it. I'm not very creative, so the abc games and songs are ones I can remember. They read because they like to do what I'm doing and I read a lot. So reading together is a fun activity we can do together. Sometimes we act out the stories, which is also a lot of fun.
By about 10 they can usually build a PC pretty well and troubleshoot their own wireless connection. We build rockets and RC aircraft together with the older ones. That sort of thing. Not really because it's educational, but because I like to do it and it's fun for them to share my interests.
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but you can't get it so that is off the table
Who told you that? Sure you can. You can't "not get a Vista license" but you can sure get XP preinstalled now and probably for a long time into the future. A lot of the new platforms released in the last six months still don't support Vista at all. So you get the "professionally installed pre-downgrade" with the theoretical permission to run Vista, if you can get it to go.
Right now, ghost is still the most efficient way for us and our number of users, but I can see that changing.
And yet another corner of the mighty IT Ecosystem gets pulled under the Microsoft umbrella, with predictable results for competing platforms. It's a good thing there are open source solutions Microsoft can't kill.
They're after Adobe, too. All you Photoshop fans should be really nervous.
You can't exactly go out a buy an XP machine anymore; well, not without a price.
You can't? Try hp workstations. They've got what you crave.
Genuine Windows Vista® 32 downgrade to Genuine Microsoft® Windows® XP Professional 32
That means it comes with a Vista license, but XP Pro installed. There is finally one "Vista installed" option, at $2199. XP Pro installed options start at $699. The "price" is decidedly not in Vista's favor here. I seriously doubt the major vendors are going to let go of XP before W7 is fully in the market, and maybe not even then for a year or more. They're not in the business of telling people they can't have what they want.
I was stunned that there's no national mandatory MOT for cars in the US.
I don't know how it is in Britain, but most places in the US the lack of your own motor vehicle qualifies you for "unemployable" status. Do that to enough of your constituents and you'll find out that not only do "unemployable" people vote, they hold a grudge for a long time. They also have a lot of free time to get politically active.
You may as well specify a unicorn.
The Bangalore blog center has mod points too. That's part of the downside of a democratic moderation system. If you want to share your feelings in a forum that doesn't have moderation let me recommend CNet news or one of the other major tech news sites that allow comments. You'll do more good there anyway because here you're singing to the choir.
The real reason Vista really failed is the same people who are hyping up 7, the media.
Completely wrong. There are two reasons why Vista failed. The first is that it's a crap product. The media duly took their ad money and their Ferrari laptops and reported their unbiased finding that it was the coolest thing since sliced bread. They squandered their credibility because far and away most people who tried it hated it.
The second reason why Vista failed was us. We tried it. We put it through its paces. We compared it side-by-side with XP. We tried to prepare it for deployment to our myriad customers with their critical applications and legacy hardware, and found that it would not serve. Then we signed on to slashdot and cnet and ZDnet and every other news forum with comments and every time they posted yet another rave review we got up in the comments and told the truth. Never before have I seen such dissonance between news reportage of technology and the public comments available. We told our friends, our family. When we got a call on Saturday from Cousin Joe halfway across the country asking "XP or Vista for my new PC" we told him "Not Vista. If you can't get XP, get a mac." The consensus opinion became so strong that non-technical family members who had never tried it were warning me off of the thing.
That's why Vista failed. Will 7? I don't know. I've got it running and it doesn't seem bad yet. Windows explorer is a little crashy, but it's a beta. I haven't tried most of the critical apps that have to run before I'd recommend it, but the base system does not seem to have the dog-slow performance that Vista did. We'll see.
Have you actually installed this beast? It's easier to get Apache working, starting from "download the kernel source". The documentation is decidedly pathetic - it was clearly written by the marketing department. It's full of "it has this feature and that feature" and nothing about how to do anything.
They're including as an "illegal download" people who can hear your radio because you have the volume too high.
And after that it's Turtles all the way down.
No one benefits from it (except lining their pockets with no efforts on their part).
The winning lawyers profit. The losing lawyers profit. The judge profits with demand for his services. The clerk profits with record requests. The transcriptionist gets profit from her work.
Who doesn't profit? Generally, the parties at issue and the general public.
I've actually done this. I was in a hurry. As soon as it asked for registration I knew I was at the wrong site, but it should be no surprise that the theme of the sight was visually similar.
While I've made my own living in the distant past selling shareware for $3/app, that was back in the dim past when an online connection was a dialup compuserve account at best, or more typically a Fidonet BBS. Folks who pull this kind of thing these days are just crooked.
Joe Sixpack doesn't need the latest quad core i7's.
Of course not. But the i7... quad core and hyperthreading. 4.2GHz on air. Huge amounts of memory. Built in virtualization. Shiny shiny new box.
er, what were you saying? Hey! Gotta go. I just remembered something I gotta get on Newegg. Keep in touch.
A 3.0GHz P4 w/512MB RAM and 40GB SATA. Intel 945 video. Performance is OK. Sleeps well. Wakes well. There are some video artifacts. Explorer is a little crashy, but it's a beta and I was surprised it ran at all with so little RAM. We shall see.
But where in North America (home of Intel, AMD, and Slashdot) are home users getting these legit HDTV streams, other than directly to a cable or satellite box?
If you try really hard you might imagine the hot legitimate market for high def video online is the same market that has been exploiting the cutting edge of art technology since, well, terra-cotta figurines.
I can probably burn the entire contents of the old disk to one DVD-ROM... :P
I'm sure she'll be thrilled with the improvement. You'll be a hero for a while. Cable internet is awesome. My cable provider just bumped me up from 4Mbit to about 15Mbit, at no extra cost. Don't forget to download and install all the updates, configure the firewall and install AV so you can get it all configured before you connect to the network. Time-to-exploit on a cable modem is under a minute.
Yeah, sometimes I don't bother with the install CD for XP. I just flash my pocket LED really fast into the open CDROM slot and simulate it for the optics on the drive. But you have to be careful at byte 0xFF00FFDD07, as that pattern is particularly tricky and you might wind up with OpenServer instead.
Personal bias: I gave up on Norton long before the founder sold both his company and his good name. The people who bought them haven't even tried to maintain the low bar Norton products set for them before the acquisition.
A brilliant man, he rested on his laurels almost too long to optimize his paycheck. I don't care for Norton products, though I've not tested the specific one you recommend.
For me ease of use is not as big a selling point as featureset, open architecture, and of course, free. I like to be fully paid up on my licensing, and that's easier to do when the programs I use are FOSS. It also makes it easier to customize stuff for my needs, which happens a lot. I have "special needs".
life's complex. part real, part imaginary. - Phantom of the Opera's sig
Faith in the nonexistence of the Divine without proof is also religion.
I expect the Independent Prosecutor is already shopping for office space.
Not because he's done anything. Just because that's what we do now. We elect them and then we spend their terms trying to throw them in prison. It's a sort of game.
And wink.
isn't FREE software going to increase productivity?
Of course it is. You've found the problem exactly.
When people are more productive, you need fewer of them. So you can let the rest of them go. And they can go home and lose their mortgage. Which will then put a bite on their bank's ability to lend - to your company. That will put a pinch in your ability to produce, so you'll need fewer people to produce less. And around and around we go.
Efficiency and productivity are not always desirable goals. This is going to sound very odd, but one purpose of government is to deplete the surplus productivity, thereby preventing a surfeit of harmful leisure. They're not taxing us enough, but instead are providing our services mostly with borrowed money. That means we have excess productivity in the present day. In the macro scale, that means high unemployment. It's simple really.
Children are generally very keen to learn.
Yeah, it's like that. The only reason they get their own pc at two isn't that I want them to use it. It's that I often have work to do in the evenings and it's hard to work a spreadsheet with a toddler in your lap enthusiastically trying to push the buttons. That, and my keyboards aren't very milk-tolerant. We go through a dozen keyboards a year or more.
OTOH when they 'write' it's generally scribbles at first but by seven we're writing English with proper grammar. My toddlers don't just play the online games. They win. A new game on NickJr.com is a big event because beaten games are boring. My five year old has completed Spore, unassisted. He gives me tips on how to play. He's proud that he knows some things I don't, but he can be a little abrasive about pointing that out. Kind of like slashdot, actually.
I don't think my kids are very unusual in this regard. I've always felt that little people, treated respectfully and with dignity, are capable of a lot of intellectual stuff that they ordinarily aren't thought capable of. I think they're usually conditioned by low expectations. I try to avoid that trap by letting them try stuff and not assuming they're not capable of figuring stuff out. Generally that means they will try anything and are incautious of failure.
In keeping with the topic however, yes, we monitor and control their Internet activity until they're sixteen. Mostly in self defence. Can't have the school complaining about them not attending because they were up all night chatting up their friends on MyFace; can't have them sharing files or downloading Warez for liability reasons. And, of course, can't have them meeting random strangers IRL or inviting all of the Internet over for a house party on the rare occasion that they're home alone.
2, 5, 14, 15 and 20.
They know their alphabet and can count to 20 by 12 mos. By 2 they have their own PC and can find thir favorite sites and can browse from there. They usually start Googling around 4.
I don't make them do it. I'm not very creative, so the abc games and songs are ones I can remember. They read because they like to do what I'm doing and I read a lot. So reading together is a fun activity we can do together. Sometimes we act out the stories, which is also a lot of fun.
By about 10 they can usually build a PC pretty well and troubleshoot their own wireless connection. We build rockets and RC aircraft together with the older ones. That sort of thing. Not really because it's educational, but because I like to do it and it's fun for them to share my interests.