The rest of the world knows something evil went on, but America has been the target of fundamentalists for a long time. Not long after this shit, there was a building in Europe, where the fire was so intense, it burned everything off. The steel structure was still standing but oxidizing flame was enough to melt or buckle steel in the trade center? The sheer paranoia of the non-Americans populace astounds me.
Er, different building standards? The US is barely more than 230 years old as a country. In europe that's not old for a middling farm house, let alone an important structure like a church or the hub of a global market.
I can't remember the book that proposed it, but it was an intriguing idea: We select one person randomly every four years. At the end of the four years we pick another one and hold an election to decide whether the incumbent retires in luxury for the rest of their days, or is executed.
Billions of years ago Venus's orbit was about where Earth's is now. At least one theory says it was struck by an object roughly the mass of Mars which reversed its rotation, crashed one moon and drove off the other, and presumably altered its surface composition considerably. Yes, Venus is a good candidate for a prior genesis of life. Good luck finding it though.
The first microbes might've formed or partially formed in comets that later impacted the Earth and "came to life" down here, or maybe it happened entirely in warm little puddles and tidepools.
Some of the "building blocks" that may be in comets could even be remnants of life that surrounded sol's parent star that went supernova and gave us all of the elements in the periodic table above iron. Although it's hard to believe any actual life surviving those conditions for those periods of time, it can't be proven to be impossible. Who knows?
Yeah, that's the ticket. Don't vote based on what they historically have done. Instead, vote based on what they say they're going to do in the future!
Obama: Chaaaaange!
McCain: Braiiins!
Not that it matters for three reasons:
It's not who votes that counts, it's who counts the votes. Yours has already been tabulated and you would be shocked to see what an idiot you are for voting that way.
No matter which way it goes, the rest of us lose. So far we've had airlines, oil companies, telecoms, banks and carmakers to bail out this decade, just like the 80s. And the 90s. It's almost the airlines' turn again. It's Groundhog day!
Both major candidates are deep in the pockets of the anti-people interests like aforementioned cyclically bailed out industries. There will be no change.
And despite all of this it's the best system currently in use. Gotta love that.
I use Vista regularly and UAC popups aren't very frequent.
A storm of UAC prompts during a powerpoint presentation is always funny because the air mouse makes it hard to click the buttons. It's hard not to laugh. I think if I was a presenter I wouldn't risk it.
Can you please educate us by telling us at least 3 platforms that Vista runs on? x86, x64.. you fill in the third one.
Ah, we're going to define platform here. Ok. You're thinking a platform is a processor architecture class. It's not. A platform is a set that includes a specific processor architecture class, a chipset class - and with the chipset common factors such as memory and IO hardware interconnects - and a form factor. It's the base, or "platform" upon which an OEM builds a product line.
Iowa's top crop, and the top cash crop for the US, is marijuana. It beats out these server farms by far, and it does it without taxpayer subsidies.
Part of our economic problem right now is we're expending huge amounts of capital to drive a large segment of the economy off of the books. When the underground economy is larger than the aboveboard one, things get pretty chaotic fast.
It's not, but I'm not going to argue the moderation on this one. It's more of an interpersonal discussion than a general interest one, and probably should be moved to chat if the two people involved weren't so arrogant and stubborn that they don't mind the whole world see their spat. Modding it down is fair and the moderation system only has so much subtlety.
Uhm, quite a few media players on XP use screen overlays, which will result in a blank box where the video should be - nothing new in Vista, nothing to do with DRM and nothing to do with violation of rights.
Ok, we'll put you down for "I don't care". The people who scream about DRM do care. They care a lot.
You're dead on. It was Deep Freeze software that crashed this Vista laptop at Best Buy. I didn't get the Vista sticker in the shot, but I was standing there when the photo was taken and the laptop was in a reboot loop with Vista. Now Vista is supposed to not bluescreen from software anymore. Can you explain how this thing on a bluescreen cycle on the shelf at a retail outlet is a positive ad for Vista?
I predict you will likely have a heart attack soon. Either while posting on the Internet or while setting up a Windows box.;)
More likely than you might think. I'm old and overworked. If I did have a heart attack the odds of it occurring while setting up a Windows box are very high, as I am doing that all day almost every day, even when I'm not working. I spend an inordinate amount of time doing that, which is one of the reasons why I wish it were more fun.
I use Vista at work, and there was nothing that it is preventing me from doing, and its certainly not preventing me from doing my work.
And all these other folks on every board in the world complaining that their machine that came with Vista ran like a dog until they put XP or Ubuntu on it are just delusional. I see.
What I won't do is praise crap for money. For that you need the other kind of consultant.
Er, let me correct that. For the kind of money they're paying Seinfeld I could convince you I really believed Bill Gates was divinely inspired. You offering?
I complain about all the products I know of that suck. Most of them just don't have $300M in marketing budget to keep them in front of me for so long.
As for work, as I said, I know platforms it works on. I know apps that work with it. If you'll pay me to I'll show you them. That doesn't mean I think it's good. I can show you how to do many other challenging things too that I also think are bad ideas. I once did web development for a newspaper. I would really like the company to offer a product with less suckage, so my commentary may be a plea for improvement.
What I won't do is praise crap for money. For that you need the other kind of consultant.
Now back to the main point, you have been proven wrong now quit moving the goal posts and admit that you are mistaken.
Let's review my statement, shall we?
More to the point Vista is preventing you from taking a screen shot of a video, even one you've recorded from the evening news.
Um, your screenshot was not from the evening news. Although many applications will add DRM to user generated content there remain applications that can convert most content that is protected into unprotected content you can take a screenshot of when it's in Windows Media Center. I know six people with unprotected backups of that very film. The reason why I said to get a CNN shot is because it's more difficult to fake in real time. Not impossible - more difficult. That' doesn't prove your point or mine - it just is. If you don't have a tuner I accept this was your best available reply. The fact is that all commercially available DRM can be circumvented, and both you and I are capable of doing it. Joe Sixpack is the guy that's limited here and that's why I made the point about the evening news - Joe sixpack is the guy that's likely to reference a screencap of the evening news in an email, which is fair use.
So, in short, I didn't move the goalposts and your accusation that I did is unfair. Your problem here is that the text of our disagreement is clearly visible above our posts. I think I've pointed out this fact to you before. It's one of the reasons I really like slashdot. They don't edit.
I will provide you with a shipping address to which you can mail a Vista x64 compatible HD tuner
Y'know, I can do this myself (and I have) but what the heck. Send the address to SlashdotEmail@GMail.Com (forgive the coding, but you get it...) and you'll have your tuner by the fastest available delivery. Do you have a preferred model that works with your cable company? Include a link to your preferred tuner in email, and a code string in your email that matches something in a reply so every slashdot troll doesn't try to scam me out of a tuner card. The first email with an address and the code string from your reply gets the tuner so send the email first. If I don't see an email I'll post that here and you'll have to trust me to be honest on this - or post a reply with a code string and let the trolls take me for a tuner card and then I'll post in all your threads a link here when I don't get a screen cap or at least a good 'shop. Freight being what it is, we'll have to continue this elsewhere so I'll open a journal article at a reasonable time and post a reply here that references it. Try to include the tuner controls in your 'shop, ok? That ups the credibility factor. And try to post it the same day you take it.
Oh, and if there's no Vista compatible HD tuner for your cable company I'm taking the win because Vista isn't even compatible with your cable.
Just so you know Vista only runs on two platforms.
I'm sure you meant "At least two platforms". Let's go with that because I know there are many platforms that like Vista well. That's not the point. It has been reported it doesn't run well on most of them. It's not well compatible with a great many platforms and applications and you know it. People who don't have it yet don't know which platforms it runs well on but they know it doesn't run well on many that have the Vista sticker and so there's no reliable way to try it with confidence. Since it offers no new benefits the transition must be painless if you expect people to adopt it. There are a lot of people who, for some godforsake reason, want to adopt it, but they can't because either their platforms won't support it, or one of their 125 mission critical apps doesn't. If you would promote Vista you should focus on fixing their uncertainty by getting somebody at work to publish a list of platforms that it honestly runs well on: not platforms that are "Vista Ready" or "Vista Capable". Let me suggest "Vista Plus!" or "Mojave Ready". I'm trying to help you out here - I don't know why. By removing the uncertainty you can eliminate much of the uptake resistance. The "Try it yourself!" theme only works if, when people try it, it works well and on average that's not happening in the field. If your company won't honestly do that then you're digging a deeper hole than you can climb out of and W7, "Based on Vista" is born with an albatross around its neck.
They should probably send somebody over to Novell to help them with the Novell Client compatibility too. Novell just ain't cuttin it and saving Vista may be more important in the long run than driving the last nail into the coffin of Novell's server OS. That'd probably get them some slack with the EC and in other forums where they're facing antitrust issues. The Novell server will die off on its own soon enough because it sucks geoducks.
And your images were not screen caps of TV. They were screen caps of a DVD and to be straight even though most people can't, I can unlock DVDs so they play without DRM even on Vista with Media Player and I'm sure you can too. I'm not even sure that DVD comes with protection. Show me some CNN in HD and then you've got something.
On more than 20 different platforms. This isn't going to surprise you: some of them work well and most of them don't.
Just took a screenshot of a DVD by simply hitting the print screen key.
No fair using VLC - they don't honor your DRM system. They're open. Try again with Windows Media Center as delivered, and/or with patches. For bonus points post a link to a screen cap with media center displaying TV.
Now explain to me what the DRM in Vista is stopping me from doing.
Booting? That's what Vista is stopping that laptop from doing.
More to the point Vista is preventing you from taking a screen shot of a video, even one you've recorded from the evening news. A still image of a news broadcast in the context of a discussion regarding the broadcast or its subject is fair use, and Vista is preventing you from that fair use and so depriving you of your civil right of freedom of expression. That's not a minor thing. Maybe you don't care because you don't care to discuss current events or world history in the lens of public media - but some do and they're rightly offended.
I agree, many people have a vague dislike for Vista. I think it has to do in part with allowing Apple to be the one to tell consumers about Vista.
Yeah, it has nothing to do with the common experience that the product sucks, or the fact that ordinary folks who feel that way have no problem with sharing their not-so-vague opinion. It's not even hard to show you that it isn't even stable on an OEM laptop sitting on the counter at BestBuy.
Listen, when Apple tells you in some ads the Vista sucks so much it's funny, that's advertising. When everybody you know tells you they've tried it and it sucks so much it's sad, that's word-of-mouth. Advertising doesn't get any stronger than word-of-mouth.
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Er, different building standards? The US is barely more than 230 years old as a country. In europe that's not old for a middling farm house, let alone an important structure like a church or the hub of a global market.
I can't remember the book that proposed it, but it was an intriguing idea: We select one person randomly every four years. At the end of the four years we pick another one and hold an election to decide whether the incumbent retires in luxury for the rest of their days, or is executed.
Billions of years ago Venus's orbit was about where Earth's is now. At least one theory says it was struck by an object roughly the mass of Mars which reversed its rotation, crashed one moon and drove off the other, and presumably altered its surface composition considerably. Yes, Venus is a good candidate for a prior genesis of life. Good luck finding it though.
Some of the "building blocks" that may be in comets could even be remnants of life that surrounded sol's parent star that went supernova and gave us all of the elements in the periodic table above iron. Although it's hard to believe any actual life surviving those conditions for those periods of time, it can't be proven to be impossible. Who knows?
Yeah, that's the ticket. Don't vote based on what they historically have done. Instead, vote based on what they say they're going to do in the future!
Obama: Chaaaaange!
McCain: Braiiins!
Not that it matters for three reasons:
It's not who votes that counts, it's who counts the votes. Yours has already been tabulated and you would be shocked to see what an idiot you are for voting that way.
No matter which way it goes, the rest of us lose. So far we've had airlines, oil companies, telecoms, banks and carmakers to bail out this decade, just like the 80s. And the 90s. It's almost the airlines' turn again. It's Groundhog day!
Both major candidates are deep in the pockets of the anti-people interests like aforementioned cyclically bailed out industries. There will be no change.
And despite all of this it's the best system currently in use. Gotta love that.
Would be to abolish copyright altogether and get rid of this and the whole basket of related problems in one fell stroke.
It's more likely than you might think.
Blame Bush.
A storm of UAC prompts during a powerpoint presentation is always funny because the air mouse makes it hard to click the buttons. It's hard not to laugh. I think if I was a presenter I wouldn't risk it.
Ah, we're going to define platform here. Ok. You're thinking a platform is a processor architecture class. It's not. A platform is a set that includes a specific processor architecture class, a chipset class - and with the chipset common factors such as memory and IO hardware interconnects - and a form factor. It's the base, or "platform" upon which an OEM builds a product line.
Iowa's top crop, and the top cash crop for the US, is marijuana. It beats out these server farms by far, and it does it without taxpayer subsidies.
Part of our economic problem right now is we're expending huge amounts of capital to drive a large segment of the economy off of the books. When the underground economy is larger than the aboveboard one, things get pretty chaotic fast.
It's not, but I'm not going to argue the moderation on this one. It's more of an interpersonal discussion than a general interest one, and probably should be moved to chat if the two people involved weren't so arrogant and stubborn that they don't mind the whole world see their spat. Modding it down is fair and the moderation system only has so much subtlety.
Ok, we'll put you down for "I don't care". The people who scream about DRM do care. They care a lot.
You're dead on. It was Deep Freeze software that crashed this Vista laptop at Best Buy. I didn't get the Vista sticker in the shot, but I was standing there when the photo was taken and the laptop was in a reboot loop with Vista. Now Vista is supposed to not bluescreen from software anymore. Can you explain how this thing on a bluescreen cycle on the shelf at a retail outlet is a positive ad for Vista?
More likely than you might think. I'm old and overworked. If I did have a heart attack the odds of it occurring while setting up a Windows box are very high, as I am doing that all day almost every day, even when I'm not working. I spend an inordinate amount of time doing that, which is one of the reasons why I wish it were more fun.
Dude, they're sixty bucks. Mow a couple lawns or something.
And all these other folks on every board in the world complaining that their machine that came with Vista ran like a dog until they put XP or Ubuntu on it are just delusional. I see.
You can't be that thick. Try symbolset.
Er, let me correct that. For the kind of money they're paying Seinfeld I could convince you I really believed Bill Gates was divinely inspired. You offering?
I complain about all the products I know of that suck. Most of them just don't have $300M in marketing budget to keep them in front of me for so long.
As for work, as I said, I know platforms it works on. I know apps that work with it. If you'll pay me to I'll show you them. That doesn't mean I think it's good. I can show you how to do many other challenging things too that I also think are bad ideas. I once did web development for a newspaper. I would really like the company to offer a product with less suckage, so my commentary may be a plea for improvement.
What I won't do is praise crap for money. For that you need the other kind of consultant.
Let's review my statement, shall we?
Um, your screenshot was not from the evening news. Although many applications will add DRM to user generated content there remain applications that can convert most content that is protected into unprotected content you can take a screenshot of when it's in Windows Media Center. I know six people with unprotected backups of that very film. The reason why I said to get a CNN shot is because it's more difficult to fake in real time. Not impossible - more difficult. That' doesn't prove your point or mine - it just is. If you don't have a tuner I accept this was your best available reply. The fact is that all commercially available DRM can be circumvented, and both you and I are capable of doing it. Joe Sixpack is the guy that's limited here and that's why I made the point about the evening news - Joe sixpack is the guy that's likely to reference a screencap of the evening news in an email, which is fair use.
So, in short, I didn't move the goalposts and your accusation that I did is unfair. Your problem here is that the text of our disagreement is clearly visible above our posts. I think I've pointed out this fact to you before. It's one of the reasons I really like slashdot. They don't edit.
Y'know, I can do this myself (and I have) but what the heck. Send the address to SlashdotEmail@GMail.Com (forgive the coding, but you get it...) and you'll have your tuner by the fastest available delivery. Do you have a preferred model that works with your cable company? Include a link to your preferred tuner in email, and a code string in your email that matches something in a reply so every slashdot troll doesn't try to scam me out of a tuner card. The first email with an address and the code string from your reply gets the tuner so send the email first. If I don't see an email I'll post that here and you'll have to trust me to be honest on this - or post a reply with a code string and let the trolls take me for a tuner card and then I'll post in all your threads a link here when I don't get a screen cap or at least a good 'shop. Freight being what it is, we'll have to continue this elsewhere so I'll open a journal article at a reasonable time and post a reply here that references it. Try to include the tuner controls in your 'shop, ok? That ups the credibility factor. And try to post it the same day you take it.
Oh, and if there's no Vista compatible HD tuner for your cable company I'm taking the win because Vista isn't even compatible with your cable.
I'm sure you meant "At least two platforms". Let's go with that because I know there are many platforms that like Vista well. That's not the point. It has been reported it doesn't run well on most of them. It's not well compatible with a great many platforms and applications and you know it. People who don't have it yet don't know which platforms it runs well on but they know it doesn't run well on many that have the Vista sticker and so there's no reliable way to try it with confidence. Since it offers no new benefits the transition must be painless if you expect people to adopt it. There are a lot of people who, for some godforsake reason, want to adopt it, but they can't because either their platforms won't support it, or one of their 125 mission critical apps doesn't. If you would promote Vista you should focus on fixing their uncertainty by getting somebody at work to publish a list of platforms that it honestly runs well on: not platforms that are "Vista Ready" or "Vista Capable". Let me suggest "Vista Plus!" or "Mojave Ready". I'm trying to help you out here - I don't know why. By removing the uncertainty you can eliminate much of the uptake resistance. The "Try it yourself!" theme only works if, when people try it, it works well and on average that's not happening in the field. If your company won't honestly do that then you're digging a deeper hole than you can climb out of and W7, "Based on Vista" is born with an albatross around its neck.
They should probably send somebody over to Novell to help them with the Novell Client compatibility too. Novell just ain't cuttin it and saving Vista may be more important in the long run than driving the last nail into the coffin of Novell's server OS. That'd probably get them some slack with the EC and in other forums where they're facing antitrust issues. The Novell server will die off on its own soon enough because it sucks geoducks.
And your images were not screen caps of TV. They were screen caps of a DVD and to be straight even though most people can't, I can unlock DVDs so they play without DRM even on Vista with Media Player and I'm sure you can too. I'm not even sure that DVD comes with protection. Show me some CNN in HD and then you've got something.
On more than 20 different platforms. This isn't going to surprise you: some of them work well and most of them don't.
No fair using VLC - they don't honor your DRM system. They're open. Try again with Windows Media Center as delivered, and/or with patches. For bonus points post a link to a screen cap with media center displaying TV.
Booting? That's what Vista is stopping that laptop from doing.
More to the point Vista is preventing you from taking a screen shot of a video, even one you've recorded from the evening news. A still image of a news broadcast in the context of a discussion regarding the broadcast or its subject is fair use, and Vista is preventing you from that fair use and so depriving you of your civil right of freedom of expression. That's not a minor thing. Maybe you don't care because you don't care to discuss current events or world history in the lens of public media - but some do and they're rightly offended.
You know, if you keep being interesting and insightful you're going to lose that negative karma you love so much.
Yeah, it has nothing to do with the common experience that the product sucks, or the fact that ordinary folks who feel that way have no problem with sharing their not-so-vague opinion. It's not even hard to show you that it isn't even stable on an OEM laptop sitting on the counter at BestBuy.
Listen, when Apple tells you in some ads the Vista sucks so much it's funny, that's advertising. When everybody you know tells you they've tried it and it sucks so much it's sad, that's word-of-mouth. Advertising doesn't get any stronger than word-of-mouth.