Symbolset school of linguistics here: If there is no person inside the aircraft it is an "unmanned" craft, commonly given as "drone". If there is a human inside and nominally in control of the aircraft it is a "plane". If there are one or more humans inside but none in control it is a "manned drone" or "passenger drone".
Whether an AI is a person is still subject to debate. The of aircraft by a person is assumed, except in UFO situations. Whether UFO controllers exist or are persons is also open to debate.
Of course this means Microsoft's puppet press has to bash iTunes now. Not that I would run the stupid app, but that's what this is about. Ballmer has his knickers in a twist because he's starting to find out what it felt like to all those other people he was locking out of the dominant platform back in the day when he was king of the hill.
Dude I don't know if you know this but before this redupe and the dupe that it's duping hit the/. front page I was the submitter on the original/. article on this topic . I care.
But real numbers being what they are, this figure matters little more than any other. Make 400 your rallying cry if you must. I would, if I had the fever. But I don't. Try not to paint me as a prick because I don't. Obviously I'm getting your cause good press doing my own bit.
It's a fun game but I could play it the other way if you want to be a pain. I can be a ferocious competitor if you want to put me on that footing.
I think I would enjoy that. It has been a long time.
Wow. I'm saving this post. I'm pretty sure this is a bot. I had thought that years ago botmasters had included "if symbolset" into their matrix not just here but everywhere on the Internet. Is this a new kid, or are they testing?
No, German reunification was pretty much a do it or die kind of thing, which is technically persuasion but not really relevant to the context. We're getting dangerously close to a Godwin here.
In your comment above you claimed to have thoroughly explored Mars. I am breathlessly awaiting your report on the situation there, replete with samples, analysis and a vast trove of discoveries.
400 is just a number. It is no more meaningful than 399.4, or 400.23. The emotion you invest in it is what gives it significance to you. If you'll forgive us, we're familiar with the smooth progression of real numbers that makes no one point significant.
All the signs point to life on Mars - not just in geologic time but right now. We haven't found it yet but then we haven't looked in the most likely places either. You can't use Mars as an example of how rare life is until we have explored it further.
I knew I was going to get the AC with the Reality Drop when I posted that.
Frankly, you could represent your crew better than this frenetic and fragmented post but I will try my best to address it anyway.
If life hasn't adapted to live in the desert in millions of years, how will it adapt now, in just 50-100 years? I don't believe evolution can save us.
There is no place on Earth that we know of: not the fiercest desert, not the deepest depths of the Mariana Trench, not in the deepest borehole ever made, nor even in the insanely radioactive core of active boiling water reactors - where life does not thrive.
And you'll be losing the big food producing areas including across the USA:
I believe I mentioned that this local increase in atmospheric temperature trended toward the poles. Implicit in that is that equatorial regions are less affected. It has to do with your own assertion: Earth is a sphere.
I think for that human ingenuity to kick in, we need to stop lying to ourselves about the reality here.
I think for human ingenuity to kick in we have to start with having a rational, fact-based discussion informed by all of the science.
/There was some other stuff in there, but I can't make out where you're going with it. Give it another go sober.
I'm sure we can sell it to the point where Canadian provinces apply for statehood. You might not like it but in a half century and given sufficient means to sway the public it can be done. It won't be an invasion. We have marketing people and they're very good. Also, you guys have a very fungible form of government and few domestic resources to influence them. You would be surprised what the CIA can to for $15,000 CDN.
If their goal is to ruin the lives of 80% of the students they accept then the primary goal of the institution is to ruin lives and creating educated humans is a byproduct.
It has to do with what people really care about. This is the basic primitive that most of the major players in tech just don't get. As humans we crave some things and are willing to pay inordinate prices to get them. Zuckerberg gets this. Jobs got this. Google gets this. Intel, AMD, Microsoft, IBM, Dell, HP, Acer, Asus, Toshiba, Fujitsu, LG, Sony and Lenovo - they just don't.
People don't - and never did - give a flying fuck about the widget. What they cared about was how the widget helped them do what they wanted and needed to do, how it enabled and empowered them. At first it was about business but as compute became ubiquitous it became about common folk. People want external validation. They want to be admired and accepted. They want to feel more connected to the people they care about. Facebook gives them this without fear of rejection because Facebook has no "dislike" button. iOS gives them this, as they can Facetime with their loved ones at any time. They will buy widgets to be telepresent with their loved ones when they must be away, relieving a primary tension of modern life.
Once the tech got sufficient to provide this somebody was going to figure this out. Proper respect goes to Steve Jobs for figuring it out first, and Andy Rubin for being swift with the FOSS solution that looks to rule the world. I'd praise Zuckerberg for vision here too but I just can't bring myself to do that. He solved the problem then exploited it in the worst possible way.
2-3 million years ago 300km inside the arctic circle CO2 levels were 400 ppm and temps were 8C above present. This according to an article published last week in the journal Science covered by Scientific American (link to journal in that article). Lake sediments find 7 varieties of fir tree pollen. This verdant period doubtless had countless bacteria, plants, insects, mammals now extinct because between then and now have been a whole lot of very cold years interspersed with some brief 10-15000 year periods of temperatures like the current. These species failed to adapt to the climate that is our current day. Firs don't grow there now. Humans are not to blame for that - there weren't any. This condition had likely persisted for millions of years prior, though intermittent rapid cold/hot spells did punctuate the climate cycles and cause widespread extinctions.
Life adapts. That's what it does. Life is a plague that cannot be stopped short of a supernova or the impact of something the size of Mars that sterilizes the entire surface by turning it to magma to 4km depth - and I'm not even sure about the latter as such an impact will kick the life off to circle the sun to land again when the planet has cooled enough to accept it. Species go extinct all the time and new species are born every minute. Every corner that has any form of energy will be populated by forms of life that use that energy and higher forms that feed on those, ultimately capturing carbon in stable forms. That is another thing that life-as-we-know-it does that has led to our current bitterly cold climate.
Humans use intelligence and common effort to surmount environmental challenges - that's what we do. There are humans that live on Antarctica and in the furthest terrestrial reaches of the arctic circle. If the Arctic Circle rises in temperatures by 8C again - or even 16C - then Mankind gets more arable land and living space, not less, because polar temps increase disproportionately to equatorial temps. Plants and animals move north quite rapidly. The vast Alaskan, Canadian and Russian permafrost becomes cropland. We move freight over the poles year-round, opening ports and resorts on the northern shores. And we lose Florida, New Orleans and South Texas. That's inconvenient. People have to move. The US probably has to annex Canada. I'm not buying the whole coral reef thing since those reefs are over 3 million years old and have survived the descent into the cold and back again very many times. That means they evolved in a climate that wasn't as crisp as our current era and should thrive when their natural habitat is restored.
You can complain about this if you want to but you cannot change the outcome. For every person on Earth who cares enough to act to reverse climate are fifty who either stand to benefit from climate change or have too many more pressing issues to care, and their efforts are more than enough to counteract any green movement that could occur short of a world government with levels of control that is not to be wish'd. Do you think Canadians and Russians live in fear of global warming? Do you think if the US converts entirely to hydro, nuclear, geothermal, solar and gas that we will stop digging up the coal? No. We will just export it to absolve ourselves of the guilt of burning it and the CO2 will still happen someplace where our clean burning regulations don't apply. Those coal mines have debts to pay. Same with high-sulfur oil.
These cycles are how nature motivates humans to evacuate equatorial regions and inhabit a wider world. It's what drove us out of Africa time and again. And the relapses to the cold drive local populations to equatorial regions for long times, increasing differentiation in the isolation periods, which leads to competition and strife when warmth and commerce resumes and finds a winner amongs
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Symbolset school of linguistics here: If there is no person inside the aircraft it is an "unmanned" craft, commonly given as "drone". If there is a human inside and nominally in control of the aircraft it is a "plane". If there are one or more humans inside but none in control it is a "manned drone" or "passenger drone".
Whether an AI is a person is still subject to debate. The of aircraft by a person is assumed, except in UFO situations. Whether UFO controllers exist or are persons is also open to debate.
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I wasn't talking about you, nor the submitter. I was referring to the author of the fine article.
Of course this means Microsoft's puppet press has to bash iTunes now. Not that I would run the stupid app, but that's what this is about. Ballmer has his knickers in a twist because he's starting to find out what it felt like to all those other people he was locking out of the dominant platform back in the day when he was king of the hill.
I am thinking this through very well. I am thinking on a different scale of time than you are but that is a different thing.
Did life end? No.
Tell me you're not headed toward some homeopathic theme here. Please. I thought better of you than that.
Dude I don't know if you know this but before this redupe and the dupe that it's duping hit the /. front page I was the submitter on the original /. article on this topic . I care.
But real numbers being what they are, this figure matters little more than any other. Make 400 your rallying cry if you must. I would, if I had the fever. But I don't. Try not to paint me as a prick because I don't. Obviously I'm getting your cause good press doing my own bit.
It's a fun game but I could play it the other way if you want to be a pain. I can be a ferocious competitor if you want to put me on that footing.
I think I would enjoy that. It has been a long time.
Wow. I'm saving this post. I'm pretty sure this is a bot. I had thought that years ago botmasters had included "if symbolset" into their matrix not just here but everywhere on the Internet. Is this a new kid, or are they testing?
Tell me this: How long did a bacterium that thrives in the core of a boiling water reactor have to evolve?
Weird bacterial life in the Dead Sea
Thanks for being specific. Care to try again?
No, German reunification was pretty much a do it or die kind of thing, which is technically persuasion but not really relevant to the context. We're getting dangerously close to a Godwin here.
By then the GOP will be doing their best to sell stickers, and trying to persuade their base to remove their old stickers.
In your comment above you claimed to have thoroughly explored Mars. I am breathlessly awaiting your report on the situation there, replete with samples, analysis and a vast trove of discoveries.
400 is just a number. It is no more meaningful than 399.4, or 400.23. The emotion you invest in it is what gives it significance to you. If you'll forgive us, we're familiar with the smooth progression of real numbers that makes no one point significant.
Buy a jacket. The North end is going to get the best sun for about 500 years.
If you've thoroughly explored Mars I'm going to want to see your mission logs, particularly polar ice samples and 2km deep drilling cores.
The way to win college is not to go.
All the signs point to life on Mars - not just in geologic time but right now. We haven't found it yet but then we haven't looked in the most likely places either. You can't use Mars as an example of how rare life is until we have explored it further.
Species go extinct. Life goes on.
I knew I was going to get the AC with the Reality Drop when I posted that.
Frankly, you could represent your crew better than this frenetic and fragmented post but I will try my best to address it anyway.
If life hasn't adapted to live in the desert in millions of years, how will it adapt now, in just 50-100 years? I don't believe evolution can save us.
There is no place on Earth that we know of: not the fiercest desert, not the deepest depths of the Mariana Trench, not in the deepest borehole ever made, nor even in the insanely radioactive core of active boiling water reactors - where life does not thrive.
And you'll be losing the big food producing areas including across the USA:
I believe I mentioned that this local increase in atmospheric temperature trended toward the poles. Implicit in that is that equatorial regions are less affected. It has to do with your own assertion: Earth is a sphere.
I think for that human ingenuity to kick in, we need to stop lying to ourselves about the reality here.
I think for human ingenuity to kick in we have to start with having a rational, fact-based discussion informed by all of the science.
/There was some other stuff in there, but I can't make out where you're going with it. Give it another go sober.
I'm sure we can sell it to the point where Canadian provinces apply for statehood. You might not like it but in a half century and given sufficient means to sway the public it can be done. It won't be an invasion. We have marketing people and they're very good. Also, you guys have a very fungible form of government and few domestic resources to influence them. You would be surprised what the CIA can to for $15,000 CDN.
If their goal is to ruin the lives of 80% of the students they accept then the primary goal of the institution is to ruin lives and creating educated humans is a byproduct.
It has to do with what people really care about. This is the basic primitive that most of the major players in tech just don't get. As humans we crave some things and are willing to pay inordinate prices to get them. Zuckerberg gets this. Jobs got this. Google gets this. Intel, AMD, Microsoft, IBM, Dell, HP, Acer, Asus, Toshiba, Fujitsu, LG, Sony and Lenovo - they just don't.
People don't - and never did - give a flying fuck about the widget. What they cared about was how the widget helped them do what they wanted and needed to do, how it enabled and empowered them. At first it was about business but as compute became ubiquitous it became about common folk. People want external validation. They want to be admired and accepted. They want to feel more connected to the people they care about. Facebook gives them this without fear of rejection because Facebook has no "dislike" button. iOS gives them this, as they can Facetime with their loved ones at any time. They will buy widgets to be telepresent with their loved ones when they must be away, relieving a primary tension of modern life.
Once the tech got sufficient to provide this somebody was going to figure this out. Proper respect goes to Steve Jobs for figuring it out first, and Andy Rubin for being swift with the FOSS solution that looks to rule the world. I'd praise Zuckerberg for vision here too but I just can't bring myself to do that. He solved the problem then exploited it in the worst possible way.
I had put this as an article but it was declined.
2-3 million years ago 300km inside the arctic circle CO2 levels were 400 ppm and temps were 8C above present. This according to an article published last week in the journal Science covered by Scientific American (link to journal in that article). Lake sediments find 7 varieties of fir tree pollen. This verdant period doubtless had countless bacteria, plants, insects, mammals now extinct because between then and now have been a whole lot of very cold years interspersed with some brief 10-15000 year periods of temperatures like the current. These species failed to adapt to the climate that is our current day. Firs don't grow there now. Humans are not to blame for that - there weren't any. This condition had likely persisted for millions of years prior, though intermittent rapid cold/hot spells did punctuate the climate cycles and cause widespread extinctions.
Life adapts. That's what it does. Life is a plague that cannot be stopped short of a supernova or the impact of something the size of Mars that sterilizes the entire surface by turning it to magma to 4km depth - and I'm not even sure about the latter as such an impact will kick the life off to circle the sun to land again when the planet has cooled enough to accept it. Species go extinct all the time and new species are born every minute. Every corner that has any form of energy will be populated by forms of life that use that energy and higher forms that feed on those, ultimately capturing carbon in stable forms. That is another thing that life-as-we-know-it does that has led to our current bitterly cold climate.
Humans use intelligence and common effort to surmount environmental challenges - that's what we do. There are humans that live on Antarctica and in the furthest terrestrial reaches of the arctic circle. If the Arctic Circle rises in temperatures by 8C again - or even 16C - then Mankind gets more arable land and living space, not less, because polar temps increase disproportionately to equatorial temps. Plants and animals move north quite rapidly. The vast Alaskan, Canadian and Russian permafrost becomes cropland. We move freight over the poles year-round, opening ports and resorts on the northern shores. And we lose Florida, New Orleans and South Texas. That's inconvenient. People have to move. The US probably has to annex Canada. I'm not buying the whole coral reef thing since those reefs are over 3 million years old and have survived the descent into the cold and back again very many times. That means they evolved in a climate that wasn't as crisp as our current era and should thrive when their natural habitat is restored.
You can complain about this if you want to but you cannot change the outcome. For every person on Earth who cares enough to act to reverse climate are fifty who either stand to benefit from climate change or have too many more pressing issues to care, and their efforts are more than enough to counteract any green movement that could occur short of a world government with levels of control that is not to be wish'd. Do you think Canadians and Russians live in fear of global warming? Do you think if the US converts entirely to hydro, nuclear, geothermal, solar and gas that we will stop digging up the coal? No. We will just export it to absolve ourselves of the guilt of burning it and the CO2 will still happen someplace where our clean burning regulations don't apply. Those coal mines have debts to pay. Same with high-sulfur oil.
These cycles are how nature motivates humans to evacuate equatorial regions and inhabit a wider world. It's what drove us out of Africa time and again. And the relapses to the cold drive local populations to equatorial regions for long times, increasing differentiation in the isolation periods, which leads to competition and strife when warmth and commerce resumes and finds a winner amongs