All of the above is true, but I'd like to clarify that Subversion is a set of version control libraries, on top of which are built the clients and servers, it's not just an implementation of the WebDAV DeltaV protocol for Apache.
For example, there's also a supported custom network protocol server (svnserve, uses "svn://" URIs) for those that don't/can't maintain Apache w/mod_dav.
(And everything else people say about how cool Subversion is -- is true! Really, check it out. Sourceforge should switch over ASAP.)
Yes, thanks to Sculley.The Mac team (and Jobs) wanted it priced at least $500 cheaper . It's important to remember that Jobs didn't have dictatorial control over Apple before he was ousted. He was not what you would call a seasoned manager, so the board didn't want him to have control. That's the reason Sculley was hired in the first place.
Fascinating how we can ignore facts under the pretense of being "fair."
All those dead and mutilated Cambodians asked Kissinger to come liberate them? I don't think so.
Many other countries did sign Kyoto. Most of the industrialized world, in fact.
I'd like some evidence for the claim that we're going after other countries for some other purpose than giving the spoiled new-frontier neocons and Bush's oil buddies power and playthings.
You are right. Even Hitler wasn't totally wrong/evil. He did, after all, feed his people. At the expense of six million dead Jews, but hey, let's not go overboard...
Bush is the same way. He got rid of a brutal dictator and a murderous tyrant. At the expense of our future relations with all the other countries on the planet, and some thousands of lives. Dubya's Vietnam is still playing out, so we don't know the outcome of this one yet, but I sure don't feel safer than I did on Sept. 12. Do you?
Look, you have to make value judgements, or you have no basis for objective reality. Bush is probably merely a fool, not evil. Bush doesn't read newspapers or books or watch TV news or otherwise stay informed of events as viewed by the rest of us. He lives and breathes on the shit fed him by Cheney and Karl Rove. It's Cheney and the rest of the neocon puppetmasters who are truly evil. They're the ones responsible for forging this suicidal foreign policy of "you're wrong, we're right, we don't care what you think, neener-neener."
Assuming he measured correctly, 15% is a lot. It's the minimum threshold for user-perceivable speed improvement, among other things. A lot of people would kill to have 15% faster compilers, kernels, databases, window managers, etc.
Keep in mind that In the midwest, $54k is a lot of money. Their cost of living is much, much lower, so it goes farther. On either coast, you'll make serious bucks (and you'll spend most of it on a decent home!). Keep in mind also that $60k is a decent just-out-of-college salary on either coast.
Are you kidding? The Vulcans on Enterprise all go around acting like they have a permanent case of PMS, even the males. They wouldn't have let those Vulcans out of kindergarten in the other shows. No, I think it's just a case of sucking, because nobody cares.
Years of posts on how woeful the US space program is, and then something like this happens, and there's 600 posts of how Bush is just doing to distract us from Iraq/look for oil/shovel money to Haliburton.
What does his announcement have to do with improving the space program? Nothing. Dubya's not going to fund the space program even to this tiny, flaccid extent, and he knows it, and if you were paying attention, you'd know it. This is purely a dubious ploy to grab votes among the educated, who aren't buying it for a minute. Meanwhile, the less educated half of the country who helped him into office probably don't see the point of funding a trip to Mars over funding cow tipping research, so hopefully loses on both counts.
No, fuck that.
Corporations are not individuals and are not to be extended the same level of slack as an individual who made a mistake might be. The livlihood of a corporation is much harder to destroy than that of an individual.
Kiss also has a responsibility to their stockholders (whoever they may be) to behave lawfully. Ego cannot enter into it. If it does, the shareholders had better come down on it pretty quickly.
Dudes, you're missing the parent poster's point. Dubya doesn't/wouldn't care that Europa might be rich in potential life. You're trying to think about this as if the President actually cares about science, the space program, the well-being of the United States, human life, or even Christian values.
You're not pay attention. This is not even remotely something Dubya cares about, or probably even fully understands.
No, as with everything in the Dubya's life these days, it's either a noble goal that Congress won't permit to happen calculated for maximum political gain, a neocon imperialist fantasy, or a baldfaced lie, often all three and worse. That's what happens when you don't think for yourself, fail to read books or newspapers or even magazines, and instead filter everything in your worldview through the bent minds of frothing religious lunatics. Take heed, and watch for Ashcroft's brown shirts in the meantime.
Tinfoil hat? No, thank you for asking, I've just been reading the news reports for the past four years.
Read the damn patents already. Someone linked to them above. They're extremely specific, as good patents should be. If EchoStar so chose, it could get around at least one of the patents by using an encoding scheme other than MPEG-2 to store the data.
Mac users haven't had floppies since 1998, modulo legacy stuff -- in real terms, floppy disks probably became irrelevant to Mac users ca. 2001.
I'm also currently getting along with a Linux/Windows dual boot PC with a floppy drive which has never seen a disk. The CD-RW drive works just fine, thanks.
more will come into the market to compete with those, on a platform that PEOPLE want, not manufacturers
Not if you want music owned by the RIAA record trust. Competition requires the availability of more than one different product in the first place, and the only product these stores can offer is DRM-encrusted. The RIAA won't be giving that up anytime soon without a revolt from one of it's multinational members.
while a lot of people like the look of the Mac, they don't like the underlying technologies: DisplayPDF and Objective-C. Personally, I think those technologies are obsolete, inefficient, and cumbersome.
Because you have so much experience with them, and so you know what you're talking about, right? You've written, I don't know, a few Cocoa applications, maybe, or perhaps some DisplayPDF code? Cough. There is no such thing as DisplayPDF. The Mac OS X imaging model is based around PDF, but raw PDF or PostScript is not stored on the server. It's all bitmaps. Objective-C is the foundation for many superb applications (Safari and OmniGraffle, to name two in the top tier).
Note, incidentally, that few of the features that make the Macintosh API visually appealing (shadows, transparency, etc.) were pioneered by Apple, and historically were implemented without anything like Apple's software infrastructure.
Really, and what were they implemented with, like?
I mean, come on, even SGI didn't have this stuff in a system-wide user interface. Are you talking about the underlying mathematics? Well, there you are correct: the core of Quartz is alpha composition, which was detailed in a ACM SIGGRAPH paper about 1982, or a few years earlier, IIRC.
For the most part, GNUstep is attempting to exactly emulate the Cocoa APIs. It works well enough that you can port apps from Mac OS X to GNUstep and vice versa pretty easily, and will get easier over time as infrastructure improves. There are such apps. GNUmail.app is one such app.
Apples and oranges. On Win32 and Mac OS X, there is a single standard native toolkit, and it is well understand that to make a native app, that's what you use.
In general, you have to go way out of your way to make a Mac OS X app look fundamentally different from other Mac OS X apps. If you're using the modern frameworks, you can even easily tinge the native interface with your own identity and still look native OS X. You _can_ use a custom framework to make things look completely different (you can also do this while using GTK and KDE, all you need is the raw mouse events and a canvas to draw on, you know), but good applications usually don't.
X apps tend to look different by design, because there is no one native widget toolkit (unless you count Athena, but why?). KDE and GNOME are making strides in this area with their respective UI guidelines, though.
Well, like all unreasonable monkeys, let's rationalize, then. It's about corporate culture. Apple is fundamentally less likely to screw someone over than Microsoft. It's just not the Apple way. Microsoft is built on screwing other companies. Apple always starts with cool technology. Microsoft always starts with paranoia, which ultimately means doom for any "partner."
Not that Apple hasn't screwed people (I could name plenty of cases in the past, being a longtime Mac developer) or isn't screwing some subset of people now, just that it's not their modus operandi.
I mean, I read about companies getting into "partnerships" with Microsoft and wonder what the hell they could possibly be thinking. Has anyone ever escaped from a partnership with Microsoft unscathed?
a popular source of free software for Mac OS X and Darwin-x86
On what planet? I think the poster is thinking of Fink, which is at this point quite apolitical. Everyone tends to shun GNU-Darwin, generally because the bootstrap script was originally horrendously insecure. This appears to have been fixed, but they're still downloading completely unnecessary binaries (you don't need wget to download a single file! curl does that just fine).
Consumer Reports is very good for appliances and basic household stuff, and very good for family cars and minivans. I wouldn't buy computer equipment based on their recommendations and, really, I wouldn't buy anything high-tech without hearing from another source in fact.
That doesn't invalidate their methodology of buying review units off the shelf, though. Good magazines learn this lesson early. Car and Driver (which *ahem* does have good sports car reviews) has written about an early radar detector review in which they discovered one of the manufacturers had sent their outer shell with the inner workings of a different manfacturer's (much higher-scoring) device inside. They can't reasonably buy every car they test, but they can buy their radar detectors of the shelf. So now they do.
You are missing the point. It's not a matter of dislike. Preference doesn't enter into it. Buffer overflows are a fact of life in C. Anytime you have unchecked array access, you're going to have that problem.
That doesn't make C an awful, bad language, necessarily, but to it does imply that too many programs are written in C that would be better written in say, Python, or Ruby. If you're not in the kernel or doing something truly performance-sensitive like A/V work, you really shouldn't be using C. If you want other people to use your programs, it's your responsibility to write them as safely as possible.
Mind you, the language is only part of the security problem -- and a small part, at that. But programming defensively has to start somewhere, and it might as well start by eliminating an entire class of bugs by using an appropriately safe language.
Not to make an obvious karma-whore rant, but no one -- not even IBM -- has ever emerged from an "alliance" with Microsoft unscathed. What makes the TRON consortium think they'll be the first such example?
Is there anything in BeOS that is not available in Linux?
A decent user interface?
Yes, yes, troll -1 I know. I'm normally a Mac OS X user and developer. I know about GNOME and I know about KDE and I use both of them (GNOME 2.4, even) on my Linux box. They still cannot hold a candle to Mac OS X or BeOS for consistency and overall polish. Also, BeOS is much easier to code for. (Nothing is as good as Cocoa -- and GNUstep isn't quite there yet.)
I do expect this to change over time. GNOME is almost there; it needs a few more really solid releases and a decent set of supporting tools, and probably a few more major architectural revisions. Right now, however, the prospect of running BeOS instead of Linux on my PC is one that excites me: an environment I actually might enjoy living in on my PC? Bring it on!
Dunno 'bout MS, but sendmail is and has been criticized since at least 1985 fot its overall complexity and bad architectural design. Its downfall is apparently the author's massive violation of the Unix 'do one thing, do it well' credo. The crux of its problem is that Sendmail contains way too much code running as root.
The Unix Hater's Handbook had a great quote: "Sendmail: providing remote root since 1983."
As Consumer Reports might say, "there are better choices," such as Postfix or qmail.
Mac OS X doesn't rely on the toolbox ROM, though. What it probably _does_ rely on is a version of OpenFirmware compatible enough with the version implemented on Apple's motherboards.
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For example, there's also a supported custom network protocol server (svnserve, uses "svn://" URIs) for those that don't/can't maintain Apache w/mod_dav.
(And everything else people say about how cool Subversion is -- is true! Really, check it out. Sourceforge should switch over ASAP.)
Yes, thanks to Sculley.The Mac team (and Jobs) wanted it priced at least $500 cheaper . It's important to remember that Jobs didn't have dictatorial control over Apple before he was ousted. He was not what you would call a seasoned manager, so the board didn't want him to have control. That's the reason Sculley was hired in the first place.
Fascinating how we can ignore facts under the pretense of being "fair."
All those dead and mutilated Cambodians asked Kissinger to come liberate them? I don't think so.
Many other countries did sign Kyoto. Most of the industrialized world, in fact.
I'd like some evidence for the claim that we're going after other countries for some other purpose than giving the spoiled new-frontier neocons and Bush's oil buddies power and playthings.
You are right. Even Hitler wasn't totally wrong/evil. He did, after all, feed his people. At the expense of six million dead Jews, but hey, let's not go overboard...
Bush is the same way. He got rid of a brutal dictator and a murderous tyrant. At the expense of our future relations with all the other countries on the planet, and some thousands of lives. Dubya's Vietnam is still playing out, so we don't know the outcome of this one yet, but I sure don't feel safer than I did on Sept. 12. Do you?
Look, you have to make value judgements, or you have no basis for objective reality. Bush is probably merely a fool, not evil. Bush doesn't read newspapers or books or watch TV news or otherwise stay informed of events as viewed by the rest of us. He lives and breathes on the shit fed him by Cheney and Karl Rove. It's Cheney and the rest of the neocon puppetmasters who are truly evil. They're the ones responsible for forging this suicidal foreign policy of "you're wrong, we're right, we don't care what you think, neener-neener."
I mean, there are all sorts of depraved sexual practices possible, and that's the only one you can think of? How one-sided.
Assuming he measured correctly, 15% is a lot. It's the minimum threshold for user-perceivable speed improvement, among other things. A lot of people would kill to have 15% faster compilers, kernels, databases, window managers, etc.
Keep in mind that In the midwest, $54k is a lot of money. Their cost of living is much, much lower, so it goes farther. On either coast, you'll make serious bucks (and you'll spend most of it on a decent home!). Keep in mind also that $60k is a decent just-out-of-college salary on either coast.
Are you kidding? The Vulcans on Enterprise all go around acting like they have a permanent case of PMS, even the males. They wouldn't have let those Vulcans out of kindergarten in the other shows. No, I think it's just a case of sucking, because nobody cares.
What does his announcement have to do with improving the space program? Nothing. Dubya's not going to fund the space program even to this tiny, flaccid extent, and he knows it, and if you were paying attention, you'd know it. This is purely a dubious ploy to grab votes among the educated, who aren't buying it for a minute. Meanwhile, the less educated half of the country who helped him into office probably don't see the point of funding a trip to Mars over funding cow tipping research, so hopefully loses on both counts.
No, fuck that. Corporations are not individuals and are not to be extended the same level of slack as an individual who made a mistake might be. The livlihood of a corporation is much harder to destroy than that of an individual. Kiss also has a responsibility to their stockholders (whoever they may be) to behave lawfully. Ego cannot enter into it. If it does, the shareholders had better come down on it pretty quickly.
You're not pay attention. This is not even remotely something Dubya cares about, or probably even fully understands.
No, as with everything in the Dubya's life these days, it's either a noble goal that Congress won't permit to happen calculated for maximum political gain, a neocon imperialist fantasy, or a baldfaced lie, often all three and worse. That's what happens when you don't think for yourself, fail to read books or newspapers or even magazines, and instead filter everything in your worldview through the bent minds of frothing religious lunatics. Take heed, and watch for Ashcroft's brown shirts in the meantime.
Tinfoil hat? No, thank you for asking, I've just been reading the news reports for the past four years.
Read the damn patents already. Someone linked to them above. They're extremely specific, as good patents should be. If EchoStar so chose, it could get around at least one of the patents by using an encoding scheme other than MPEG-2 to store the data.
Mac users haven't had floppies since 1998, modulo legacy stuff -- in real terms, floppy disks probably became irrelevant to Mac users ca. 2001.
I'm also currently getting along with a Linux/Windows dual boot PC with a floppy drive which has never seen a disk. The CD-RW drive works just fine, thanks.
No, I don't think that's likely. But is a possibility.
Not if you want music owned by the RIAA record trust. Competition requires the availability of more than one different product in the first place, and the only product these stores can offer is DRM-encrusted. The RIAA won't be giving that up anytime soon without a revolt from one of it's multinational members.
Because you have so much experience with them, and so you know what you're talking about, right? You've written, I don't know, a few Cocoa applications, maybe, or perhaps some DisplayPDF code? Cough. There is no such thing as DisplayPDF. The Mac OS X imaging model is based around PDF, but raw PDF or PostScript is not stored on the server. It's all bitmaps. Objective-C is the foundation for many superb applications (Safari and OmniGraffle, to name two in the top tier).
Note, incidentally, that few of the features that make the Macintosh API visually appealing (shadows, transparency, etc.) were pioneered by Apple, and historically were implemented without anything like Apple's software infrastructure.
Really, and what were they implemented with, like? I mean, come on, even SGI didn't have this stuff in a system-wide user interface. Are you talking about the underlying mathematics? Well, there you are correct: the core of Quartz is alpha composition, which was detailed in a ACM SIGGRAPH paper about 1982, or a few years earlier, IIRC.
For the most part, GNUstep is attempting to exactly emulate the Cocoa APIs. It works well enough that you can port apps from Mac OS X to GNUstep and vice versa pretty easily, and will get easier over time as infrastructure improves. There are such apps. GNUmail.app is one such app.
In general, you have to go way out of your way to make a Mac OS X app look fundamentally different from other Mac OS X apps. If you're using the modern frameworks, you can even easily tinge the native interface with your own identity and still look native OS X. You _can_ use a custom framework to make things look completely different (you can also do this while using GTK and KDE, all you need is the raw mouse events and a canvas to draw on, you know), but good applications usually don't.
X apps tend to look different by design, because there is no one native widget toolkit (unless you count Athena, but why?). KDE and GNOME are making strides in this area with their respective UI guidelines, though.
Not that Apple hasn't screwed people (I could name plenty of cases in the past, being a longtime Mac developer) or isn't screwing some subset of people now, just that it's not their modus operandi.
I mean, I read about companies getting into "partnerships" with Microsoft and wonder what the hell they could possibly be thinking. Has anyone ever escaped from a partnership with Microsoft unscathed?
On what planet? I think the poster is thinking of Fink, which is at this point quite apolitical. Everyone tends to shun GNU-Darwin, generally because the bootstrap script was originally horrendously insecure. This appears to have been fixed, but they're still downloading completely unnecessary binaries (you don't need wget to download a single file! curl does that just fine).
That doesn't invalidate their methodology of buying review units off the shelf, though. Good magazines learn this lesson early. Car and Driver (which *ahem* does have good sports car reviews) has written about an early radar detector review in which they discovered one of the manufacturers had sent their outer shell with the inner workings of a different manfacturer's (much higher-scoring) device inside. They can't reasonably buy every car they test, but they can buy their radar detectors of the shelf. So now they do.
That doesn't make C an awful, bad language, necessarily, but to it does imply that too many programs are written in C that would be better written in say, Python, or Ruby. If you're not in the kernel or doing something truly performance-sensitive like A/V work, you really shouldn't be using C. If you want other people to use your programs, it's your responsibility to write them as safely as possible.
Mind you, the language is only part of the security problem -- and a small part, at that. But programming defensively has to start somewhere, and it might as well start by eliminating an entire class of bugs by using an appropriately safe language.
Not to make an obvious karma-whore rant, but no one -- not even IBM -- has ever emerged from an "alliance" with Microsoft unscathed. What makes the TRON consortium think they'll be the first such example?
A decent user interface?
Yes, yes, troll -1 I know. I'm normally a Mac OS X user and developer. I know about GNOME and I know about KDE and I use both of them (GNOME 2.4, even) on my Linux box. They still cannot hold a candle to Mac OS X or BeOS for consistency and overall polish. Also, BeOS is much easier to code for. (Nothing is as good as Cocoa -- and GNUstep isn't quite there yet.)
I do expect this to change over time. GNOME is almost there; it needs a few more really solid releases and a decent set of supporting tools, and probably a few more major architectural revisions. Right now, however, the prospect of running BeOS instead of Linux on my PC is one that excites me: an environment I actually might enjoy living in on my PC? Bring it on!
The Unix Hater's Handbook had a great quote: "Sendmail: providing remote root since 1983."
As Consumer Reports might say, "there are better choices," such as Postfix or qmail.
Yeah, Macs are really bad for scientific research work. No one with a brain would ever use a cluster of them for science. Science requires the Wintel hegemony. -1, troll it, baby.
Mac OS X doesn't rely on the toolbox ROM, though. What it probably _does_ rely on is a version of OpenFirmware compatible enough with the version implemented on Apple's motherboards.