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  1. Re:So all Rachael Maddow clips will be tagged? on YouTube Will Add Information From Wikipedia To Videos About Conspiracies (theverge.com) · · Score: 1

    He never said that they did. The investigation has nothing to do with trump. Get that through your head!!!! The investigation has nothing to do with trump!!!!! The only connection whatsoever is that Russia interfered with our elections, by trying to sway the American public with propaganda and other means, to have trump win the election, or to at least sow discontent.

    Then why is he investigating Trump's campaign and administration, slick? You think Mueller became a meter maid in his retirement and he's coming to collect on unpaid parking tickets??

  2. Re:So all Rachael Maddow clips will be tagged? on YouTube Will Add Information From Wikipedia To Videos About Conspiracies (theverge.com) · · Score: 1

    Think something through once in a while.

    You first. Do explain how .0011% spending out of a $9+ billion election swung a vote, much less the election overall.

  3. Re:So all Rachael Maddow clips will be tagged? on YouTube Will Add Information From Wikipedia To Videos About Conspiracies (theverge.com) · · Score: 1

    Think something through once in a while.

    You first. Then explain how you can prove .0011% of a $9 billion plus election affected a vote, much less enough to swing an election. Did the Twitter click farms somehow prevent Hillary from campaigning in the Rust Belt states that cost her the election? Did the puppy ads on Facebook force Hillary to pick a right-wing pro-life running mate when she needed to bring in the left side of the party?

  4. Re:So all Rachael Maddow clips will be tagged? on YouTube Will Add Information From Wikipedia To Videos About Conspiracies (theverge.com) · · Score: 1

    I'm tired of people lying and saying Saddam didn't have WMDs

    You've managed to stay this ignorant for 15 years? You never noticed how the neocons who lied you into Iraq bother with this claim? Chemical weapons degrade over time, sparky. That mustard gas warhead that would have killed you in 1980 might....give you a bad rash in 2002.

    Protip: it's not a weapon of mass destruction if its no longer capable of causing mass destruction.

  5. Re:charge back when best buy fails will change the on How Your Returns Are Used Against You At Best Buy, Other Retailers (nbcnews.com) · · Score: 1

    Ah, a corporatist with a grotesque sense of entitlement. Still, nothing wrong with you that ten years of honest labor wouldn't fix. They even have camps for that.

  6. Re:Every time.... on Reddit Admits Russian Trolls Got Into Website During 2016 Election (vice.com) · · Score: 0

    You mean you ran out of Western Exceptionalist bullshit you cannot defend. You can't throw stones at Russia in eastern Europe when the U.S. overthrew a former republic on their border, dipshit.

  7. Re:So all Rachael Maddow clips will be tagged? on YouTube Will Add Information From Wikipedia To Videos About Conspiracies (theverge.com) · · Score: 1

    Oh, the delicious irony.

    Insert Diego Montoya clip here.

    How awesome is it that you can demand others play by rules that you yourself won't follow?

    Except that's exactly how it works, dotard, as you can't prove a negative. It's the job of a person claiming a thing is a thing to prove that its a thing. If you say you believe in Santa Claus as a grown assed man (far less embarrassing than believing in Russiagate btw), is it somehow my responsibility to prove that a man with magical powers doesn't exist in an undisclosed location? Nope.

    As Christopher Hitchens said after debating nutjob fundies who claim it was his job to prove that an omnipotent sky god doesn't exist, "That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence."

  8. Re: Machine Learning Failure? on How Your Returns Are Used Against You At Best Buy, Other Retailers (nbcnews.com) · · Score: 1

    Just like return fraud is an issue, so is chargeback fraud.

    That's nice but it isn't the subject at hand - customers who are trying to return a product but the store doesn't want to return the money in exchange for said product.

  9. Re:So all Rachael Maddow clips will be tagged? on YouTube Will Add Information From Wikipedia To Videos About Conspiracies (theverge.com) · · Score: 1

    While I agree that Maddow in particular is trying to squeeze blood from a stone, you're obviously blind if you think the Trump campaign and cabinet members didn't get help from Russia, make shady deals with Russians, and lied about it â" sometimes under oath.

    Copied and pasted since you skipped it the first time:

    Feel free to put up or STFU with some evidence, guys. Protip: assertions are not evidence.

    So far you Russiagaters have as much evidence as Birthers, Chem Trailers or Lunar Conspiracy nutjobs. But at least those jackasses weren't trying to drag us into World War 3.

  10. Re:charge back when best buy fails will change the on How Your Returns Are Used Against You At Best Buy, Other Retailers (nbcnews.com) · · Score: 1

    Returns are a cost of doing business - and consumer protection laws in civilized countries. Barring mind-reading powers (which would be creepy AF anyway) there's no way to know if the guy returning the purchased tux is a cheapass avoiding a rental fee, or if the pants really did ride up in the crotch. And as prices are always set to maximize revenue, the "Best Buy rental program" doesn't cost you the consumer a dime. BB could magically eliminate it entirely (and shoplifting, and employees "forgetting" to ring up each others purchases) and you wouldn't see prices go down by a nickel.

    Then there's the old business saying, 'manage the exception, not manage to the exception'. So sure, if you're an assistant manager and you see Joe Punkass come in on a Thursday to buy yet another Alienware rig before a three day LAN party (that you know he's going to return on Monday) go ahead and tell him he's not welcome. But as an especially greedy, unethical corporation, any software system Best Buy will use is guaranteed to tag far more regular consumers than people "abusing the system".

  11. Re:So all Rachael Maddow clips will be tagged? on YouTube Will Add Information From Wikipedia To Videos About Conspiracies (theverge.com) · · Score: 1

    How would this be a conspiracy? He is investigating facts. We know that Russia sought to influence our elections and we can be quite sure that Russia doesn't respect US campaign laws.

    Your not-facts are the conspiracy theory. Again: none of Mueller's indictments have anything to do with Russian hacking or colluding with Trump to do so. This is nothing more than an excuse from partisan Democrats to explain their loss to the 2nd worst candidate in history, and so they don't have to change their corrupt corporatist money whore ways (that led to Trump in the first place).

    We know that Russia sought to influence our elections

    With Twitter trolls looking to suck people in with clickbait of all kinds and then make money from the add revenue, same as TMZ and countless other sites? And step back and look at this whole storyline for two seconds: why would Russia try to tip the election one way or the other when both parties have been extremely hostile to Russia for over a century. Nancy Cordes (who is unlikely to ever be invited on TV any time soon) asked John Podesta how Russia was able to swing an election with a few thousand dollars by focusing on purple states while the $1.2 BILLION Clinton campaign did not.

    Many companies (i.e Facebook, Twitter) have publicly disclosed Russion interference activities.

    Ever hear the expression "hiring you was like losing three good men"? That's what your "activities" do to the Russiagate theory. The first time people lost their damn minds over $5000 in Facebook ads (in a race where Trump got $6 BILLION in free media coverage), it turned out that many of them came after the election and were ads for puppies, Obama memorabilia or a documentary critical of Trump's golf course in Scotland.

    Worst. CT. Ever.

  12. Re:So all Rachael Maddow clips will be tagged? on YouTube Will Add Information From Wikipedia To Videos About Conspiracies (theverge.com) · · Score: 0

    Let's maybe let Mueller continue the witch hunt indefinitely

    FTFY, and no thanks. Mueller has never shown so much as probable suspicion and hasn't even bothered to have the FBI examine the DNC servers. The Birthers deserve as much time as he does for their conspiracy theory. It's also funny how often True Believer Russiagaters suddenly say "lets wait for the results of the investigation" after deciding Trump was guilty before the investigation even began.

    As to the minor charges so far: what, you expect him to simply ignore minor offences that he comes across in the course of his investigation?

    As if Mueller came into this to investigate money laundering. The special prosecutor in the US is a grotesque perversion of justice - needing probable cause for an investigation is thrown out the window, and the prosecutor becomes a Grand Inquisitor with a writ of assistance. Like indicting Flynn after a perjury trap via a warrantless wiretap on an American citizen. And even then, none of Mueller's indictments have anything to do with Russian flipping voting machines or colluding with Trump to do so. And even then, if Putin himself came over to rig some Diebold boxes, if there was no collusion with Trump, there is no Russiagate.

  13. Re: Machine Learning Failure? on How Your Returns Are Used Against You At Best Buy, Other Retailers (nbcnews.com) · · Score: 0

    Obviously you got away with it, but that doesn't seem like the right way to handle your dispute and is probably considered fraud.

    Do you like your corporatist boots with some sugar or do you take them black? If the store doesn't like a chargeback, accept the bloody return.

  14. So all Rachael Maddow clips will be tagged? on YouTube Will Add Information From Wikipedia To Videos About Conspiracies (theverge.com) · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The greatest conspiracy theory of our time (and the dumbest of all time) is Russiagate. Mueller - one of the people who lied you into Iraq has had more than a year but has gotten nothing more than twitter trolls and indictments that have nothing to do with Trump or Russia.

    Pointing this out always results in butthurt from people who have been eager to get punked a second time by the people who lied to world about Saddam planning 911 and having WMD's. Feel free to put up or STFU with some evidence, guys. Protip: assertions are not evidence.

  15. Re:charge back when best buy fails will change the on How Your Returns Are Used Against You At Best Buy, Other Retailers (nbcnews.com) · · Score: 1

    Theft is theft.

    Indeed it is. Which is why you're a moron to compare it to someone who paid money for a product and is trying to get money in a return for said product.

  16. Re: Every time.... on Reddit Admits Russian Trolls Got Into Website During 2016 Election (vice.com) · · Score: 1

    I mean it is possible that someone else paid the Russian troll factories to spread pro-Russian propaganda

    And it's "possible" that Obama was born in Kenya. Whoop de freaking do. The thing here, AC, is that you're believing in a narrative, and I'm an atheist. I don't do belief, I do facts. And so far - how many posts are we into this thread now? - you don't have any.

    Other than that I'm not sure what to say anymore because it's like talking to a wall - worse actually.

    Yes, you are a wall. Evidence. Evidence.

    Eh.

    Vi.

    Dense.

    If you have any, you would be presenting it instead of just blowing more smoke. Like if I'm debating an Obamabot who's claiming that Obama was really a great guy who was just held back by a hostile GOP Congress, I will burry his dumb ass in facts. Facts like the Dem supermajority from '09-'11, or that the worst policies during his time in office came from Obama, not Republicans. And then list them.

    Because in a different post you kind of admitted that your fear of Russia's nuclear arsenal motivates you to do this, which of course you twisted into making the US look like the aggressor.

    Annnnnd this is where I burry your dumb ass with facts. After promising Gorbachev that NATO wouldn't expand eastward (so Germany's reunification wouldn't be vetoed), the hostile military alliance has nearly doubled in size and expanded right to Russia's borders. If that wasn't enough, Dubbya erected "missile shields" in eastern Europe to make it easier for the U.S. to launch a first nuclear strike on Russia and survive the retaliatory launches. Sure, they claimed it was for Iran, but not even Ray Charles is blind enough to buy that one, and he's dead.

    Then Bush invaded a country on Russia's border, Obama overthrew another, and in the biggest act of chutzpah in history, levied sanctions against Russia in response to said American overthrow. Obama also deployed the largest number of troops seen in eastern Europe since WWII and started a trillion-dollar upgrade of America's nuclear arsenal. Hillary campaigned on shooting down Russian planes in Syria, where Russia has been invited but where the US has no business being. And now, Trump is sending the U.S. Navy to the Black Sea, which is the equivalent to Putin sending a carrier group the Gulf of Mexico 'in response to American aggression.' Of course the United States is the aggressor here. The whole in your head would have to be measured in light years to claim otherwise.

    ^This is what it looks when you can back back up your shit with facts and citations. When you Russiagaters can do the same, by all means let us know.

  17. Re: Every time.... on Reddit Admits Russian Trolls Got Into Website During 2016 Election (vice.com) · · Score: 1

    Basically you are refusing to state whether you do or do not think it's a crime if Trump staffers colluded with the Russians. IOW You think they did, are glad they did but don't want to admit it.

    You sound like James Risen, who was in a debate with Greenwald who said about 15 times he wanted hard evidence for this conspiracy theory given the lies told in the past from the same people pushing Russiagate. Risen responded not with evidence, but haranguing Greenwald about what his personal beliefs were on Trump and Russia.

    Like Greenwald, I'm an atheist and I don't have to believe anything. Belief is for religion - current events are matter of facts. So until Russian collusion is a proven fact, you may as well speculate what will happen if one of Trump's aids turns out to be a child molester or a cannibal. It's a free country, you can believe whatever you want, but it puts you in the same territory as people who speculate that the moon landings were faked or that Obama was born in Kenya.

    tl;dr: put up the evidence or stfu until you do

    Of course, you would laugh at the truth, wouldn't you?

    The truth where Sanders can walk into a room full of Trump voters and have them cheering for free health care and higher education in a matter of minutes? He was a no-name senator from a tiny-assed state. Against the entire party establishment, against the biggest name in party politics, against the media, Bernie should have lasted as long as Jim Webb or Laurence Lessig in the primary and dropped out with 5% of the vote at most. Not by winning 23 states and 43% of the vote despite the election being rigged in favor of another candidate.

    So your projection is noted.

  18. Re:Every time.... on Reddit Admits Russian Trolls Got Into Website During 2016 Election (vice.com) · · Score: 1

    There's actually quite a lot of incontrovertible fact behind it.

    Great, you'll have no problems listing them. Oh, you can't? Insert eye roll emoji here.

    Those can't really be disregarded considering they are admissions of guilt.

    They most certainly can, given that they have nothing to do with Russia stealing the election or colluding with Trump to do so.

  19. Re: Every time.... on Reddit Admits Russian Trolls Got Into Website During 2016 Election (vice.com) · · Score: 1

    The only criterion you gave was Trump's actions. Ergo, you consider the actions of the staffers unimportant. Don't try to fob me off with tangents, that is what you said: only Trump's actions matter.

    Hysterical pedantry. No collusion, no Russiagate. As there is nothing approaching even probable suspicion that there was collusion between Trump and Russia - or his staffers for the exceptionally retentive - then there is no Russiagate.

    Bernie lost fair and square.

    Laughable. Long before we knew about the Hillary Victory Fund money laundering, before union leaders ignored their membership and endorsed Mrs. Nafta, before we knew about the 200,000 voters illegally stripped from rolls in Brooklyn, before the "Bernie's so black" smear campaign, before we knew Hillary outright owned and ran the DNC or it argued in open court it had the right to rig primaries, we knew the slashed debate schedule was created to prevent a repeat of 2008. Where an unkown first-term senator beat the biggest name in Democratic politics like a rented mule. Because the more voters see Hillary Clinton, the less they like her. Everything the DNC did was to avoid a repeat of 2008, so HRC could coast to an easy coronation.

  20. Re:Every time.... on Reddit Admits Russian Trolls Got Into Website During 2016 Election (vice.com) · · Score: 1

    They pretty much just used the Crimea example

    While completely ignoring the fact that the Ukrainian government was overthrown by the United States or the fact that Russia already had a base in Crimea. Would you find a Japanese historian reasonable if he wrote a book bitching, moaning and crying about the American invasion of Iwo Jima while completely omitting Pearl Harbor?

    If you choose to be willfully blind to support your narrative, that's your call, but you can't expect Russians (or anyone with a functioning cerebral cortex) to do the same on behalf of your propaganda.

    From what I know there's a considerable number of Germans who thinks that the American military bases that are still in Germany are a form of occupation and or invasion.

    Which of course they are.

    But what does that change in the context of the ongoing trolling and propaganda?

    If Russia is "invading" Crimea when moving troops through an existing base, then so too is the United States when moving troops through existing bases in Germany. Or the UK. Or Japan. Or Italy. Or Saudi Arabia. This isn't a hard subject to grasp - were you dropped on the head as a child, early and often?

    But what's your point besides of employing a red herring with this kind of argument?

    Remedial cause and effect is the opposite of a red herring.

    Two wrongs or even hypothetical wrongs don't make a right.

    What's wrong about accepting a vote to succeed from a nation overthrown by literal Neo-Nazis?

    Willful.

    Dumbfuckery.

  21. Re: Every time.... on Reddit Admits Russian Trolls Got Into Website During 2016 Election (vice.com) · · Score: 1

    Just what is the proof that the propaganda coming from Russian troll farms is in fact Russian, that is, made by Russian state to advance its interests?

    None whatsoever, but that doesn't stop them. Curious, though, that they only whine about supposed interference to supposedly help Trump. They DGAF about the Hillary campaign engaging in all the same activities, or a single rich Chinese couple spending $1.3 million to get Jeb elected.

    These troll farms are for sale. They employ mostly people like unemployed Ukrainian youth. The do it for petty money.

    Yep - clickbait to lure people in and make money from ads. Same kind of business that sites from Raw Story to TMZ engage in.

  22. Re:Fusion likely uneconomical vs. alternatives on MIT Plans To Build Nuclear Fusion Plant By 2033 · · Score: 1

    Pumped storage is limited to a fraction of hydroelectric sites.

    Ludington is an artificial reservoir. And even in the most arid of climates, pumped storage power could be built into existing water towers, or new ones constructed for that purpose. We have water towers and hydroelectric dams in use today that are over a century old, so for an up-front investment you can have infrastructure that will last a very long time. An investment nuke fans can't really complain about when a new nuke plant will cost ten billion dollars or more and take between one and two decades to construct.

    Also, coal and nuclear power is already moved hundreds of miles from the generating source via power lines, so there's no reason large pumped storage facilities from West Virginia or upstate New York couldn't supply power to DC/Baltimore or New York City, respectively.

  23. Re:Every time.... on Reddit Admits Russian Trolls Got Into Website During 2016 Election (vice.com) · · Score: 1

    Eh. When you know as many people as the Clinton's have, the chances of a number of them having crazy deaths is pretty high. Kind of like the list of Power Ranger actors that have died at young ages from accidents, illnesses or even landed in prison for murder. There isn't a "curse" on the show, just a natural effect of a huge number of people being involved in a long running franchise.

    That said, Russiagaters everywhere need to have this, Vince Foster, and the alleged heroin smuggling operation the Clintons ran thrown in their faces on a daily basis. They keep bringing out the "where there's smoke, there's fire" line on Russian collusion, but the Clintons have more smoke than Trump does.

  24. Re: Every time.... on Reddit Admits Russian Trolls Got Into Website During 2016 Election (vice.com) · · Score: 1

    Read your own post.

    You first.

    You argued that unless it was Trump himself colluding then there was no need for Meuller going about his "witch hunt".

    Uh, no. The point - which was clear enough the first time - that's there's as much evidence that Trump staffers colluded with Russia as there is that Clinton staffers shot Vince Foster. As in none. If you don't want to be compared to crazy nuts who believe asinine conspiracy theories without any evidence - then maybe you should find some evidence, eh?

    Oh but Clinton! And that my man is why Hillbot Russiagaters are fucked.

    FTFY. Everything Hillbots have accused Trump of Russia of doing, Hillary did, and did it first. From rigging an election (Democratic primary) to taking dirt on her opponent from Ukraine as well as Russia - even paying for it, unlike Trump.

  25. Re:Fusion likely uneconomical vs. alternatives on MIT Plans To Build Nuclear Fusion Plant By 2033 · · Score: 1

    The amount of available and potential pumped storage capacity is woefully insufficient for this.

    As opposed to new nuclear power plants that just magically sprout from the ground in the morning???