A "big one" in IT like IBM says "linux rocks!". Another "big one" (and competitor) like MS says "linux sucks!". Clear message for the guys in suits taking decisions -> that "linux thing" is something to be taken seriously into account:)
>Back to war... if you don't kill your enemy, he >lives to fight another day and teach his children >to hate you too.
If you kill your not-enemy and destroy its house, his children become new enemies... if only because they have nothing to lose and nothing left but hate: every civilian casualty, collateral damage, is really the creation of new enemies.
I don't care a bit about where the servers are, nor about the nationality of the engeneers caring about them.
I do care about the legislation applicable to the servers. If China were in charge, we all would suffer from the same restrictions that the chinese citizens do. That would be a Bad Thing(TM).
As much as I appreciate that the US government cares more for civil liberties than Chinese government, something bigger and more neutral than US (or Europe, or Japan, or India or China) seems more appropiate to me.
Any country may suffer from a heavy blow to civil liberties, as post 11/9 US shows us. (Here in Spain we are going the same way, unfortunately!).
What about those of us who do not live in the states? I would not like that all this power goes to a country. US is not better to me than MS. What about a more neutral entity, which is supposed to care about us, and not only about you?
What about the UN? What about the UNESCO? If it is a public good, then why shoud it be public=US, and not public=humanity?
Users don't need to be smart: distributions need to be. Nightly -or otherwise- incremental backups may be easily and automatically implemented, without user intervention.
As a bonus benefit, users may be offered restoration of their files to any specific date, so that they are also protected from their own not-malicious-software-assisted errors.
I keep on reading this, and can't get the insightfulness...
It's *your* home which can be wiped,/home/user. What about a "backup" user cp-ing ang gzip-ing your data regularly? If you don't have root permisions, you can either wipe e.g./usr *nor*/home/backup, so your backups are safe.
The solution are backups. If you have a user called "backup" wich regularly copies the content of the other users' homes, compresses them and does nothing else, I doubt anything bad could happen.
Joe User uses the virus, loses his data, but has no permissions either to affect the system nor to destroy the backup, owned by "backup". "buckup" doesn't execute any program save from "cp" and "gzip", so it is doubtful his home can be infected...
It's just 10.000 euro per offense. So, while it is just unfunny to offend with a web page (just one offense), it would be suicidical to start a letter campaign in Germany...
Yes it is Offtopic and yes it is Redundant, but it has to be said again and again, until we get some satisfactory explanation from the editors. Slashdot could not possibly survive without free software. Free software can be in serious problems because of software patents. A possitive move in Europe (against software patents) could change some things in U.S., and the law we are protesting again is a very negative move. Why not *do* something?
This has been addressed in another story: why is Slashdot still up? Why does it not shutdown just for one day, as a clear message that this site is not happy with software patents? Will we get some explanation from the editors?
A site of the size of slashdot.org would certainly give some important (critical?) mass to this public demonstration...
I disagree. Mainstream media will echo the protest (I don't know about TV, but "El Mundo" is a mainstream newspaper in Spain, and its digital edition) talks about the issue today, as it did yesterday.
Mainstream media like statistics. If important sites like Slashdot join the protest, they can safely add some more thousand affected users to the stats, and the protest becomes more important in the eyes of the public - thus, more important to the politician.
I don't care about losing karma as Redundant or Offtopic, this is really an issue which deserves non-anonymous support.
Today is an important day for demonstrations here in Europe. If we manage to minimize the damage caused by software patents legislation (ideally cancelling their approval), software freedom (and our personal freedom btw) will be much safer.
Slashdot, close your operation, shutdown -h NOW! Tomorrow you can resume normal activity, and rejoice by talking about how proper your behavior was.
There is really no need to move hydrogen across wide distances... With solar energy you can just break the long energy chains associated with fossil fuels: If the car (or the house) has its own solar panels to recharge its hydrogen fuel cells, hydrogen does not need to make intercontinental travel, so that you can pretty well minimize losses. I see other (social) advantages in decentralization, btw:)
The spanish text, as I (native speaker) read it, says "software libre", so that it's "free as in speech". Moreover, they have the good taste to just mention linux as an example of free software, thus not restricting themselves against *BSD.
True it's a limitation. And there is some political background, although I think not specially anti-Microsoft: there is a previous declaration about how technology and information should arrive to everyone and not only to the rich ones (it's a socialist party governing there, the same than in Extremadura).
The lowest level of energy ("fundamental" energy level of a quantum system), which we can equate to absolute zero, because there is no allowed state with less energy *does* have energy, including vibrational energy. Atoms *cannot* "cease" to vibrate, because by doing so they would violate Heisenberg's indetermination principle (they would have an exactly determinate position _and_ moment).
Often solar energies are viewed as environmental friendly, buy more expensive. Usually, one does no include "extra" costs in fossil energies. The Galicians cleaning up the chapapote (fuel on the beach) of the broken "Prestige" can report how expensive the "extra" costs of fossil energies can be... so does the USA paying war after war to protect fuel sources (not to speak of the iraqui).
just curious, how many peolpe saying "yay! MS sucks! I hate Bill! Its the evil empire!" Are typing from Internet Explorer, while listening to mp3's in WMP 9 on XP??...
Sure political climate in Europe is less favourable for Microsoft. There is SuSE, there is (or maybe not) Mandrake, there is LinEX... Several european companies and local governments could benefit from a slight decline in software monopoly.
I did not get clear information about how "free" or "available" the source is. Sun is actively developing OpenOffice.org (besides StarOffice), which is a very good thing (for me, at least). Can somebody get into detail about Sun's relation with free/libre software (comparing, e.g., with better known MacOSX case)?
Since on monday we are going to see some legal action, I suppose this is the usual some hot air to distract the attention.
I, however, wonder if this really can affect a judicial decision... I think it won't.
A "big one" in IT like IBM says "linux rocks!". :)
Another "big one" (and competitor) like MS says
"linux sucks!".
Clear message for the guys in suits taking
decisions -> that "linux thing" is something
to be taken seriously into account
Ever heard about iRATE?
Free, legal music downloads... it's even tuned to your taste! And yes, it does run on linux (and on Windows, and on MacOSX).
OK, maybe the interface isn't so sexy as iTune's... but it's still worth a try, imho. It worked great for me :)
>Back to war... if you don't kill your enemy, he
>lives to fight another day and teach his children
>to hate you too.
If you kill your not-enemy and destroy its house, his children become new enemies... if only because they have nothing to lose and nothing left but hate: every civilian casualty, collateral damage, is really the creation of new enemies.
I don't care a bit about where the servers are, nor about the nationality of the engeneers caring about them.
I do care about the legislation applicable to the servers. If China were in charge, we all would suffer from the same restrictions that the chinese citizens do. That would be a Bad Thing(TM).
As much as I appreciate that the US government cares more for civil liberties than Chinese government, something bigger and more neutral than US (or Europe, or Japan, or India or China) seems more appropiate to me.
Any country may suffer from a heavy blow to civil liberties, as post 11/9 US shows us. (Here in Spain we are going the same way, unfortunately!).
What about those of us who do not live in the states? I would not like that all this power goes to a country. US is not better to me than MS. What about a more neutral entity, which is supposed to care about us, and not only about you?
What about the UN? What about the UNESCO? If it is a public good, then why shoud it be public=US, and not public=humanity?
(Just a thought).
Users don't need to be smart: distributions need to be. Nightly -or otherwise- incremental backups may be easily and automatically implemented, without user intervention.
As a bonus benefit, users may be offered restoration of their files to any specific date, so that they are also protected from their own not-malicious-software-assisted errors.
I keep on reading this, and can't get the insightfulness...
/home/user. What about a "backup" user cp-ing ang gzip-ing your data regularly? If you don't have root permisions, you can either wipe e.g. /usr *nor* /home/backup, so your backups are safe.
It's *your* home which can be wiped,
Where is the problem, then?
The solution are backups. If you have a user called "backup" wich regularly copies the content of the other users' homes, compresses them and does nothing else, I doubt anything bad could happen.
Joe User uses the virus, loses his data, but has no permissions either to affect the system nor to destroy the backup, owned by "backup". "buckup" doesn't execute any program save from "cp" and "gzip", so it is doubtful his home can be infected...
It's just 10.000 euro per offense. So, while it is just unfunny to offend with a web page (just one offense), it would be suicidical to start a letter campaign in Germany...
Yes it is Offtopic and yes it is Redundant, but it has to be said again and again, until we get some satisfactory explanation from the editors. Slashdot could not possibly survive without free software. Free software can be in serious problems because of software patents. A possitive move in Europe (against software patents) could change some things in U.S., and the law we are protesting again is a very negative move. Why not *do* something?
This has been addressed in another story: why is Slashdot still up? Why does it not shutdown just for one day, as a clear message that this site is not happy with software patents? Will we get some explanation from the editors?
A site of the size of slashdot.org would certainly give some important (critical?) mass to this public demonstration...
Just my 0.02euro
I disagree. Mainstream media will echo the protest (I don't know about TV, but "El Mundo" is a mainstream newspaper in Spain, and its digital edition) talks about the issue today, as it did yesterday.
Mainstream media like statistics. If important sites like Slashdot join the protest, they can safely add some more thousand affected users to the stats, and the protest becomes more important in the eyes of the public - thus, more important to the politician.
I don't care about losing karma as Redundant or Offtopic, this is really an issue which deserves non-anonymous support.
Today is an important day for demonstrations here in Europe. If we manage to minimize the damage caused by software patents legislation (ideally cancelling their approval), software freedom (and our personal freedom btw) will be much safer.
Slashdot, close your operation, shutdown -h NOW!
Tomorrow you can resume normal activity, and rejoice by talking about how proper your behavior was.
There is really no need to move hydrogen across wide distances... :)
With solar energy you can just break the long energy chains associated with fossil fuels:
If the car (or the house) has its own solar panels to recharge its hydrogen fuel cells, hydrogen does not need to make intercontinental travel, so that you can pretty well minimize losses.
I see other (social) advantages in decentralization, btw
The spanish text, as I (native speaker) read it, says "software libre", so that it's "free as in speech". Moreover, they have the good taste to just mention linux as an example of free software, thus not restricting themselves against *BSD.
True it's a limitation. And there is some political background, although I think not specially anti-Microsoft: there is a previous declaration about how technology and information should arrive to everyone and not only to the rich ones (it's a socialist party governing there, the same than in Extremadura).
The lowest level of energy ("fundamental" energy level of a quantum system), which we can equate to absolute zero, because there is no allowed state with less energy *does* have energy, including vibrational energy. Atoms *cannot* "cease" to vibrate, because by doing so they would violate Heisenberg's indetermination principle (they would have an exactly determinate position _and_ moment).
:)
I hope someone corrects me if I am wrong
Often solar energies are viewed as environmental friendly, buy more expensive. Usually, one does no include "extra" costs in fossil energies. The Galicians cleaning up the chapapote (fuel on the beach) of the broken "Prestige" can report how expensive the "extra" costs of fossil energies can be... so does the USA paying war after war to protect fuel sources (not to speak of the iraqui).
just curious, how many peolpe saying "yay! MS sucks! I hate Bill! Its the evil empire!" Are typing from Internet Explorer, while listening to mp3's in WMP 9 on XP?? ...
;P
That's why they know it sucks
Sure political climate in Europe is less favourable for Microsoft. There is SuSE, there is (or maybe not) Mandrake, there is LinEX... Several european companies and local governments could benefit from a slight decline in software monopoly.
As far as I know, it is as XFree86 as linux, so, definitively yes, it is graphical.
:)
If you know about something called Gnome, you might find this interesting
http://wwws.sun.com/software/star/gnome/
I did not get clear information about how "free" or "available" the source is. Sun is actively developing OpenOffice.org (besides StarOffice), which is a very good thing (for me, at least). Can somebody get into detail about Sun's relation with free/libre software (comparing, e.g., with better known MacOSX case)?