Of course, there IS such a thing as Mini-ATX, just nobody uses it. It's not big enough to be really expandable (but ATX is), and it's not small enough to shrink the computer much (but microATX is).
Mini-ATX?!?!? I think you mean Mini-ITX. But yeah, you're right about that. Of course, it could be MiniFlex-ATX (170x180mm instead of 170x170) - that case can barely hold that too.
RTFA, and look at the pics. It's a Mini(FlexATX/ITX) board (I've seen the case sold as a Mini-ITX case that could also hold the smaller MFATX boards), and yes, it DOES run Linux. I don't think port 23 would be open, though.
Actually, I've seen this case sold as a Mini-ITX case. They're using a Mini(FlexATX/ITX) board, which has INTEGRATED Ethernet, and if you're thinking it has a proprietary OS, you're wrong. RTFA and find out it has Linux.
URL points to a non-existant server, and clicking the link gives you gay porn results on Google Images. I don't know who the hell modded it up, but they need to be shot.
Ah, but if the people wanted to fight for (buy from) the side that had killer special forces (a 64-bit x86), it would really help the general (Intel) to get someone to leak that they might have killer special forces (a 64-bit x86), because people might hesitate to join the other general (AMD).
Yeah, and Bill Gates said that in 1981, except the number was 640KB. Trust me, MS WILL find a way to suck over 4GB with Windows Blackcomb or something. That's why I'm using 2000, and when it gets too outdated, I'm jumping the MS ship.
Ah, the one that delayed Microsoft's backstabbing of IBM...
If you don't know the background story, MS was developing NT (just NT at the time, and it stood for the CPUs nickname) for the i860 on 386 PCs with emulators. If the i860 were out, Windows NT would have killed OS/2 MUCH earlier (or still have been named NT, and become OS/2 2.0). However, they had to go to a MIPS CPU, and then port to the i386, which delayed Windows NT (it WAS at the time Windows NT).
The P4 was mostly designed by marketing bots that wanted 3.2GHz clock speeds and didn't care that most CPUs.5GHz slower could kick it's ass. The Pentium M, on the other hand, was Intel's attempt to make a modern P3 (read: 400MHz FSB, and some other actual innovations of the P4) that was powerful and efficient - and could be one of the CPUs that could kick P4 ass.
Keep in mind, anything over 17" would be a TOUCH topheavy. Toshiba has a 17" widescreen laptop cheap ($1700 if you don't spring for WinXP Media Center), and WinBook has a 17" NON-widescreen laptop. For all I know, maybe they're saying 17", when it's really 17.1".
I think it's a 12 pound laptop. However, I had a 16 lb. Wintel (OK, so it could only run Windows 1.0) with a 7 or 8" CGA widescreen display (backlit versions were VERY rare), dual 720K 3.5" FDDs, no HDD, portable printer (added 4" and 2 pounds to the laptop), 512K RAM, and an 80C88 at 4.77MHz. It was an IBM PC Convertible.
Well? They typically do take up one room (including filing cabinet, desk, etc.), and they sure as hell cost under $100 grand (unless I get a HUGE server).
They also made the ALPHAbook I, the first 64-bit laptop. Google for info - there aren't many for sale and info's a bit sparse (most of it's memory upgrades). Here's what I know:
10.4" TFT 233MHz Alpha ??MB RAM 2.1GB(?) HDD PCMCIA is via a PCI-PCMCIA adaptor Mobo is a desktop board Battery life is sub 1hr It weighs a ton
Hmm, Opteron might not do that well if it's advertised as a 64-bit CPU to consumers. They don't understand that (even though their old beat up N64 is sitting right by the TV). Actually, when they find out that they "have" to get Windows XP 64-Bit Edition for AMD64, they'll go buy a Prescott. What they should do is sell it as a Really Fucking Fast(TM) CPU, say that WXP64 for AMD64 makes it even faster, but is not recommended unless you know what you're doing and is not needed, and run with it. I remember reading a review on a WXP64 for AMD64 beta, and it said that the drivers HAD to be 64 bit. It could run 32-bit apps, (IE was one of the dual mode apps included) but the device drivers could not be 32-bit, which kills compatibility.
What about a VIA C3 Nehemia 1GHz? I've heard they've gotten much better. Anyway, what's the heat output of a Pentium M (NOT the P4-M)? I've heard it is possible to passively cool it even up to 1.6GHz (the fastest PM there is - equivalent to a 2.2GHz P4M, but lower power).
Apple PowerBook 180 (yes, I know, that's a notebook) - it gets hot, but only when it's been running for a few hours, and I did run that on a desk Leading Edge N3/SX20 - I don't recall it getting very hot at all, but then again it didn't run long... IBM PC Convertible - It didn't get hot because of it's sheer size! Not to mention, it didn't fit on a lap. Toshiba Satellite Pro 405CS - This one's a crotch warmer big time. It seems to be the CPU (under the keyboard) that is the hottest (keep in mind, even though there was a case fan, there probably wasn't a CPU fan), but the HDD and then the battery are a VERY close second (and they're under the palm rest).
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Of course, there IS such a thing as Mini-ATX, just nobody uses it. It's not big enough to be really expandable (but ATX is), and it's not small enough to shrink the computer much (but microATX is).
Mini-ATX?!?!? I think you mean Mini-ITX. But yeah, you're right about that. Of course, it could be MiniFlex-ATX (170x180mm instead of 170x170) - that case can barely hold that too.
RTFA, and look at the pics. It's a Mini(FlexATX/ITX) board (I've seen the case sold as a Mini-ITX case that could also hold the smaller MFATX boards), and yes, it DOES run Linux. I don't think port 23 would be open, though.
Actually, I've seen this case sold as a Mini-ITX case. They're using a Mini(FlexATX/ITX) board, which has INTEGRATED Ethernet, and if you're thinking it has a proprietary OS, you're wrong. RTFA and find out it has Linux.
Isn't that a lot like saying that you work in the Department of Redundancy Department, Redundancy Subdepartment?
Actually, the seller of the CD gets your money, and may use that to buy another RIAA CD.
Not to mention, http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/09/2 1/1322240&mode=nested&tid=134&tid=160 is the latest story.
NEWB? He's got a lower UID than you!
How 'bout someone just silkscreen Space/Any on the spacebar?
URL points to a non-existant server, and clicking the link gives you gay porn results on Google Images. I don't know who the hell modded it up, but they need to be shot.
Hmm, even though it's PowerPoint, I think there are ways to make PP(2000/XP) save as an IE3(Moz/Opera/Safari) compliant HTML file.
Ah, but if the people wanted to fight for (buy from) the side that had killer special forces (a 64-bit x86), it would really help the general (Intel) to get someone to leak that they might have killer special forces (a 64-bit x86), because people might hesitate to join the other general (AMD).
Yeah, and Bill Gates said that in 1981, except the number was 640KB. Trust me, MS WILL find a way to suck over 4GB with Windows Blackcomb or something. That's why I'm using 2000, and when it gets too outdated, I'm jumping the MS ship.
Ah, the one that delayed Microsoft's backstabbing of IBM...
If you don't know the background story, MS was developing NT (just NT at the time, and it stood for the CPUs nickname) for the i860 on 386 PCs with emulators. If the i860 were out, Windows NT would have killed OS/2 MUCH earlier (or still have been named NT, and become OS/2 2.0). However, they had to go to a MIPS CPU, and then port to the i386, which delayed Windows NT (it WAS at the time Windows NT).
...of what I think is a 1U dual Xeon Prescott box: The heatsinks - priceless
The P4 was mostly designed by marketing bots that wanted 3.2GHz clock speeds and didn't care that most CPUs .5GHz slower could kick it's ass. The Pentium M, on the other hand, was Intel's attempt to make a modern P3 (read: 400MHz FSB, and some other actual innovations of the P4) that was powerful and efficient - and could be one of the CPUs that could kick P4 ass.
Ah, but copying is a hell of a lot easier when you've got two drives.
Keep in mind, anything over 17" would be a TOUCH topheavy. Toshiba has a 17" widescreen laptop cheap ($1700 if you don't spring for WinXP Media Center), and WinBook has a 17" NON-widescreen laptop. For all I know, maybe they're saying 17", when it's really 17.1".
I think it's a 12 pound laptop. However, I had a 16 lb. Wintel (OK, so it could only run Windows 1.0) with a 7 or 8" CGA widescreen display (backlit versions were VERY rare), dual 720K 3.5" FDDs, no HDD, portable printer (added 4" and 2 pounds to the laptop), 512K RAM, and an 80C88 at 4.77MHz. It was an IBM PC Convertible.
Well? They typically do take up one room (including filing cabinet, desk, etc.), and they sure as hell cost under $100 grand (unless I get a HUGE server).
They also made the ALPHAbook I, the first 64-bit laptop. Google for info - there aren't many for sale and info's a bit sparse (most of it's memory upgrades). Here's what I know:
10.4" TFT
233MHz Alpha
??MB RAM
2.1GB(?) HDD
PCMCIA is via a PCI-PCMCIA adaptor
Mobo is a desktop board
Battery life is sub 1hr
It weighs a ton
Hmm, Opteron might not do that well if it's advertised as a 64-bit CPU to consumers. They don't understand that (even though their old beat up N64 is sitting right by the TV). Actually, when they find out that they "have" to get Windows XP 64-Bit Edition for AMD64, they'll go buy a Prescott. What they should do is sell it as a Really Fucking Fast(TM) CPU, say that WXP64 for AMD64 makes it even faster, but is not recommended unless you know what you're doing and is not needed, and run with it. I remember reading a review on a WXP64 for AMD64 beta, and it said that the drivers HAD to be 64 bit. It could run 32-bit apps, (IE was one of the dual mode apps included) but the device drivers could not be 32-bit, which kills compatibility.
What about a VIA C3 Nehemia 1GHz? I've heard they've gotten much better. Anyway, what's the heat output of a Pentium M (NOT the P4-M)? I've heard it is possible to passively cool it even up to 1.6GHz (the fastest PM there is - equivalent to a 2.2GHz P4M, but lower power).
I've had the following laptops:
Apple PowerBook 180 (yes, I know, that's a notebook) - it gets hot, but only when it's been running for a few hours, and I did run that on a desk
Leading Edge N3/SX20 - I don't recall it getting very hot at all, but then again it didn't run long...
IBM PC Convertible - It didn't get hot because of it's sheer size! Not to mention, it didn't fit on a lap.
Toshiba Satellite Pro 405CS - This one's a crotch warmer big time. It seems to be the CPU (under the keyboard) that is the hottest (keep in mind, even though there was a case fan, there probably wasn't a CPU fan), but the HDD and then the battery are a VERY close second (and they're under the palm rest).
Then again, I remember some guy signed up slashdot124 pass:slashdot as a North Korean. Want to use that?