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Where is the Any Key?

ricembr noted that compaq has finally provided a FAQ to the world to ask that long standing question where is the any key? Pray that this was added to the FAQ as a joke, and not in response to legitimate need ;)

369 comments

  1. Too bad by krisp · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    that the world still cant spell the word 'the'

    1. Re:Too bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I know one of these keys HAS to be it *clickety clickety*

    2. Re:Too bad by Omicron32 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Uhh, 'teh' is a deliberate mis-spelling of 'the'.

      Mainly used by AOLers. :P

      teh w4r3z 4r3 \/1ru53d

    3. Re:Too bad by sharkey · · Score: 1
      that the world still cant spell the word 'the'

      Or handle the use of apostrophes and capitalization.

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    4. Re:Too bad by acidrain69 · · Score: 1

      I find that over time, my ability to type "the" has diminished. I think one of my hands has started typing too quickly for the other. I find myself typing "teh" more and more often.

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    5. Re:Too bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Overusing the right hand, have you been?

    6. Re:Too bad by Unregistered · · Score: 1

      That's qwerty for you. For example i always tyope form when i mean from.

  2. What? by balloonhead · · Score: 2, Funny
    Is this really a story?

    Slow news-tastic.

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    1. Re:What? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, not really. But on the bright side, it might keep a lot of the morons here busy, and out of real topics where their imbecilic posts will not be missed.

    2. Re:What? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1
      Is this really a story?

      Yes, but they still haven't got it right. Tab, Shift, Caps Lock and probably others do not, in fact qualify as "any" key.

    3. Re:What? by uncoveror · · Score: 1

      This is a bigger story than it appears to be on its face. Carly "The Hatchet" Fiorina is trying to deny credit for the any key to its inventor, Milton Crane, the former head of Typewriters International of Toledo. Read all about that. If you think "press any key to continue" means any key on the keyboard, try pressing esc when you see it. Here is more about Carly.

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    4. Re:What? by sketerpot · · Score: 1

      It's a story if you choose to look at stories in the "It's funny. Laugh" category. Of course, you could have just ignored it, but I suppose you were bored, like I am at the moment.

    5. Re:What? by Wolfrider · · Score: 1

      > Pray that this was added to the FAQ as a joke, and not in response to legitimate need

      --Believe me now and hear me later, from the stories I've heard about some PEBCAKs it was *definitely* legitimate need...

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    6. Re:What? by bickerdyke · · Score: 2, Interesting

      RTA and look at the creation day of the FAQ entry..... back in 2001.

      BTW: Wasn't compaq the first company to replace the "press any key" with "press enter" just to avoid that question?

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    7. Re:What? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I want to know what they were looking for to come accross that FAQ?

    8. Re:What? by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 1

      Tab generates a character. Caps lock, num lock, shift, control, alt, option, command, window, menu, power, these don't cause the generation of a character from the keyboard, or it is intercepted before it can reach the program. (Apple's power key generates a character when connected to a Linux box.)

      Multimedia keyboards may add more to the set of keys that aren't the any key, as well as function keys.

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  3. "Press Any Key" by Luigi30 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Any key? Where's the any key? I think I'll order a tab. *click* Oh, no time for that, time to work!

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    1. Re:"Press Any Key" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

      This is slashdot. Moderators shouldn't mod down a perfectly good reference to Simpsons, what the hell is wrong with you?

    2. Re:"Press Any Key" by prichardson · · Score: 1

      Whoever modded this offtopic needs their moderator privleges revoked. It's a simpsons quote that really does relate to the discussion.

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    3. Re:"Press Any Key" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You will be modded down too, I am sure. I was, for making the exact same comment. Logic states that it will happen to everyone who does the same from now on.

    4. Re:"Press Any Key" by tulare · · Score: 2, Funny
      To idiotically quote something that was utterly idiotic to say in the context it was most imfamously said by a rather famous idiot:
      "Bring 'em on!"
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    5. Re:"Press Any Key" by cshark · · Score: 1

      This from the people that issued online documentation on how to use a mouse. Interesting...

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    6. Re:"Press Any Key" by heXXXen · · Score: 1

      Your quote is a little off, friend. You forgot "All this computer hacking is making me thirsty."

    7. Re:"Press Any Key" by Crayon+Kid · · Score: 1

      My Big Boss could use that one. We were in a meeting once and the mouse from the presentation box got twirled around (buttons facing hand). He tried to use it like that for about 30 seconds before one of us geek guys took pity on him.

      P.S. He was recently proposed to join some fancy European comitee dealing with the future of IT and crap like that. He was proud of it. So was I. I'm eagerly expecting the future to bring us more user-friendly computer mice. Executives are people too.

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    8. Re:"Press Any Key" by Luigi30 · · Score: 0

      Ah, close enough.

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    9. Re:"Press Any Key" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually its no time for that now the computers starting

    10. Re:"Press Any Key" by mitheral · · Score: 1

      How the heck is the mod supposed to know that, not everyone has memorised all 300+ episodes. Now if Luigi had attributed the quote and given context maybe he wouldn't have been modded down.

  4. Finally!? by Drakin · · Score: 5, Informative

    Read the bloody thing! It was added in 2001!

    1. Re:Finally!? by janiz · · Score: 1

      not only added, also modified!

    2. Re:Finally!? by brejc8 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Created: 10/8/2001 2:13:42 AM
      Modified: 10/25/2002 11:07:05 AM


      Why do you think they had to modify it?
      I wonder if someone complained over the fact they pressed the power "key".

    3. Re:Finally!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nah by the looks of it look far more likely they added the part about the onscreen keyboards on thier handhelds.

    4. Re:Finally!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      They added the "or handheld screen" part.This is really old news...

    5. Re:Finally!? by fallacy · · Score: 4, Informative

      The Way Back Machine has the answers:

      It seems that it was first created in 1999. A modification seems to be the fact that the title changed from "Compaq FAQ: Where do I find the any key on my keyboard? (FAQ2859)" to quoting the "Any" key (along with the relevant change in the text).

    6. Re:Finally!? by Sindri · · Score: 1

      Even weirder it was modified in 2002. What changed?

    7. Re:Finally!? by EddWo · · Score: 1

      Compaq introduced their Tablet PC in November 2002. The keyboard is completely detachable. I expect they changed it so that people didn't first go looking for their keyboard and re-attach it to the PC before looking for the "any" key on that.

      "It keeps telling me to press the any key, but I left the keyboard at the office, what can I do?"

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    8. Re:Finally!? by Bert64 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Because now it mentions a touchpad screen, so it`s applicable to ipaq users etc... Originally the faq only mentioned a keyboard, i remember reading it back when it was first posted up there.

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    9. Re:Finally!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You'd think that the people who need to look that up in their database, would read "any key" as "'Any' key" anyway. :)

  5. hmmmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Any key is just between the esc key and the enter numpad key. see it's so easy to find ;)

  6. Needs. by saintlupus · · Score: 5, Funny

    not in response to legitimate need ;)

    You've never worked in a call center before, have you?

    I had a caller who borrowed the DSL installation disk from her friend and was trying to install "The Internet" on her DVD player.

    Yes, this FAQ was needed. Desperately.

    --saint

    1. Re:Needs. by tulare · · Score: 4, Funny

      No doubt - I can't tell you how many times I've had to explain to users that they don't need to enter their username and password into our webmail form in order to "log onto the internet." Or had complaints of a computer "always making this error" but never writing it down - that error message is randomly generated and thus meaningless, after all. And so help me, the next time I have someone point to the monitor and call it the "Computer"...

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    2. Re:Needs. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I had a caller who borrowed the DSL installation disk from her friend and was trying to install "The Internet" on her DVD player.
      Heh. I worked remote support for AOL for nearly 5 years. I kid you not, the following question was far more common than you might imagine:

      "When I get email, will my phone ring?"

      The first time I saw that question, I laughed. By the tenth time, I'd accumulated the same bit of FAQ-needage that you have. And that question damn sure didn't stop after ten times.

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    3. Re:Needs. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't we all have The Internet installed in our backyards?

      My favorite of all is: I closed The Internet.

    4. Re:Needs. by TrekkieGod · · Score: 4, Funny
      And so help me, the next time I have someone point to the monitor and call it the "Computer"...

      Unfortunately, that one is propagated by action movies. It happens in a lot of movies, but the last Tomb Raider comes to mind (don't ask why I went to see it...alright, heck...I'm a nerd, and there was a hot chick on screen). Croft needs to destroy computer so bad guy doesn't get the results of the stuff he was running...so she starts shooting monitors.

      I swear it...I can't help but laugh each time it happens in a movie, and then I get the funny looks from the people around me who are wondering what in that action packed, high-tension situation I find funny.

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    5. Re:Needs. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd go with "legitimate need" too....

    6. Re:Needs. by inode_buddha · · Score: 1

      Wow. I thought things were bad here. Within 1 week of offering WebTV, my ISP had a dozen crashes.... along with typing/thinking lessons.

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    7. Re:Needs. by Anime_Fan · · Score: 1

      And so help me, the next time I have someone point to the monitor and call it the "Computer"

      I wonder if you've ever used Sun thin clients. Where the f*ck would you point if not at the monitor? The stupid-looking keyboard with keys on all the wrong places? The mouse? The server, where most of the workload takes place?

    8. Re:Needs. by tulare · · Score: 1

      Oh, man, tell me, did the bad guy's computers have that special program installed that sounds the system bell with each and every keystroke? That'd fit right in there, too, don't you think?

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    9. Re:Needs. by immel · · Score: 1

      At least in Terminator 2 the good guys fragged the actual computer of the chip designer who would eventually be responsible for the deaths of billions of people.

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    10. Re:Needs. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
      the last Tomb Raider comes to mind (don't ask why I went to see it...)
      I don't need to, my good, sir, as I am a fellow geek. The only two words you must utter are "Angelina Jolie." This gives you a free pass in terms of the embarassment factor of seeing Lara Croft II, because:

      a) Angelina Jolie has tres jolie boobies

      b) Angelina Jolie was Acid Burn in "Hackers"

      No further excuse is required. Angelina Jolie is certified Slashdot wet-dream fodder! The only thing that beats Angelina Jolie is Natalie Portman with hot grits down her pants, and $DEITY knows, none of us have ever really seen that.

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    11. Re:Needs. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The server, where most of the workload takes place?

      Bingo. Anything else would be as stupid as the rest of your post.

    12. Re:Needs. by Gumshoe · · Score: 1
      The server, where most of the workload takes place?
      Bingo. Anything else would be as stupid as the rest of your post.


      And the server would be where exactly?
    13. Re:Needs. by mechugena · · Score: 3, Funny

      I know about the "mysterious error" thing. I used to work as a consultant for a company. One of our clients had two users whose machines would supposedly crash all the time. I had asked repeatedly for them to help me out and write the error down. They never found time to do that, so over a span of a few months, I ran every service patch and diagnostic on their systems. I even upgraded them both from Win98 to Win2k, but one still seemed to have problems. The only real application they used was Office2k.

      (start rant)
      To make a long story short, their "complaints" about me never fixing the problem (although they never helped me out) probably led to my demise at the company. Fuck them, and fuck my old company.
      (end rant)

    14. Re:Needs. by Sajarak · · Score: 1
      And so help me, the next time I have someone point to the monitor and call it the "Computer"...

      Or point to the computer and call it the "hard drive"...

    15. Re:Needs. by tomstdenis · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      What if you had a tablet PC where the monitor [or LCD] is the "computer" :-)

      Ok I'll shut up now...

      Tom

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    16. Re:Needs. by tulare · · Score: 1

      Personally, when referring to the location of the server, I'd point straight to the floor, but then again that would involve actually thinking. Most people I know point at the roof.

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    17. Re:Needs. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If Angelina Jolie turns you on, you really should see Gia rather than bothering with something pointless like Tomb Raider.

      You actually get to see her naked and in lesbian action scenes. (No, I'm not kidding)

    18. Re:Needs. by the_duke_of_hazzard · · Score: 5, Funny

      Best one I ever heard of was someone calling up saying "I've followed all the instructions, used the CD, signed up to an ISP, my browser is showing and my homepage is set to Google. My problem is: what do I do now?" The poor chap had heard the internet was amazing and that he had to get it, had got it, and then had no idea what he'd got it for.

    19. Re:Needs. by questamor · · Score: 4, Funny

      I had to help a friend of mine who had DSL installed, and constantly had problems with it working. Several calls to his ISP later he phoned me. I presumed he was entering his username and password in the right place and DSL wouldn't connect.

      I got to his place and DSl was working fine - the install disk had set his homepage to hotmail.com. That's where he was entering his username and password. Over and over again...

      gah

    20. Re:Needs. by Saarus · · Score: 1

      ...OR point to the computer and call it the "MODEM". You would NOT BELIEVE how often I got this while working call-center for an ISP. Well, you call-center people know what I'm talking about.

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    21. Re:Needs. by stretch0611 · · Score: 1
      Microsoft has tried to make and market windows for ease of use and has catered to the "Lowest Common Denominator." They succeeded; so yes, the FAQ is necessary.

      However, when you make something for the "Lowest Common Denominator"; those are the only one who would want to use it.

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    22. Re:Needs. by MadocGwyn · · Score: 1

      I was a bigger fan of "Is the internet down?", yes your POP isnt working right, which brought down the whole damn internet worldwide ma'am.

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    23. Re:Needs. by blancolioni · · Score: 1

      action packed, high-tension situation

      Exactly which universe were you watching this Tomb Raider in?

    24. Re:Needs. by zepher-109 · · Score: 1

      my father calls the computer "the memory" and he calls the monitor "the tv" and he calls wmp "the radio" haha, he drives me insane sometimes

    25. Re:Needs. by arose · · Score: 1

      In a world where most Hollywood movies don't suck...

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    26. Re:Needs. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or like these really stupid people pointing at the map on the wall saying "The World" or pointing at the TV during the news and saying "like Afghanistan"

      Do they not understand that it's a country? That there is no actual little people living in that box?

      The world is filled with stupid people I tell you.

    27. Re:Needs. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I swear it...I can't help but laugh each time it happens in a movie, and then I get the funny looks from the people around me who are wondering what in that action packed, high-tension situation I find funny.

      Don't feel bad. I watched Total Recall at the theatre when it came out and laughed hysterically as Quade (Schawzenegger) went up the elevator and threw the guy's severed arms down to him, saying "See you at the party, Richter!"

      Needless to say, I was the only one laughing.

    28. Re:Needs. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What if you had a Tom StDenis where the MANGOO BOTTLE is the MANHAM CAN?

    29. Re:Needs. by Bolen · · Score: 1

      I had a caller who borrowed the DSL installation disk from her friend and was trying to install "The Internet" on her DVD player.

      Ha! That's like wanting to install the Interstate Highway System in your toaster.

    30. Re:Needs. by Moraelin · · Score: 1

      Oh yeah, that kind of people piss me off no end. "It showed some kind of a message box, dunno what was written in it, I didn't read it. I clicked on OK, and now all my files are gone. *sob* *whine*"

      I don't even work on tech support, but still have to recurringly deal with a family member who _never_ reads any message or dialog the computer shows. No ammount of "RTFDB (Read The F***ing Dialog Box) next time" can seem to convince them to actually do so. Next time it's "uh, it said something but I didn't read it" time, all over again.

      Heck, I'm not even asking them to write it down. Just bloody read it and have some vague awareness of what was written there. Like maybe it was asking whether to delete a bunch of files or not? Or was it offering to install some ActiveX control or dialer, self-signed by someone called the "L33t Kr3w Corp"? You know, just have some fscking idea what they said "OK" to.

      Oh well...

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  7. The real question is... by Free+Bird · · Score: 1

    Where is *the* any key? ;)

    1. Re:The real question is... by haydon4 · · Score: 0, Redundant

      It says Press any key to continue.

      Hmmm...There's esc, and ctrl...There doesn't seem to be any any key. Oh well, I'll just order a tab.

    2. Re:The real question is... by fafaforza · · Score: 1, Redundant

      "To Start Press Any Key". Where's the ANY key? I see Esk, Catarl, and Pig-Up. There doesn't seem to be any ANY key. Woo! All this computer hacking is making me thirsty. I think I'll order a TAB. [presses TAB key] Awp...no time for that now, the computer's starting.

      Courtesy snpp.com

    3. Re:The real question is... by parkanoid · · Score: 3, Funny

      There are no less than FOUR posts like the above, and they keep getting modded funny. Stop it.

  8. Man this is sad by dhawton · · Score: 0

    if the people really ask that question. If they don't understand "Press any key", then they don't belong on a computer.

    1. Re:Man this is sad by mkldev · · Score: 2, Interesting
      On the other hand, this is the reason I always say that computer error messages should always be carefully screened by non-geeks. In fact, they should be screened by the worst-case end-user, such as someone's grandmother. At some point, it becomes harder to learn new tricks, so to speak, and even tiny little things like this error message can cause confusion. It doesn't make them stupid, just terrified that they'll screw something up.

      If the message had read "Press a key to continue", there would be no confusion, even by the most computer illiterate....

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    2. Re:Man this is sad by Go+Aptran · · Score: 2, Funny
      Yes... everyone would press the "a" key... which is above the "z" and under the "q".

      Problem solved!

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    3. Re:Man this is sad by J3zmund · · Score: 1

      The custom software at my old employers said "Press a key to continue..."

      What you've described is exactly what most users did. I thought it was pretty funny. They were often shocked to see me hit the space bar.

      "That won't work!" they'd say.

      Sure.

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  9. Finally? by Phosphor3k · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Created: 10/8/2001 2:13:42 AM
    1. Re:Finally? by h00pla · · Score: 1
      Not new at all. Even the Inquirer linked to this page of the Compaq FAQ via a photo of Carly Fiorina about a month ago. One of those photos they put on the home page that goes someplace somewhat related to the person.

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  10. Date Added by Darkness+Productions · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Notice that it was added in 2001, and I remember it actually being there *long* before then...

  11. Huh? by tulare · · Score: 5, Funny

    Oh, wow, they're right... there isn't any "any" key anywhere on my keyboard. I never noticed that - whenever I saw that message on my screen before, I just called my housecat who knows everything about computers and she jumped up on the keyboard and fixed it for me.

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  12. It's Likely True by iCharles · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Unfortunately, the FAQ probably is a legitimate point. I've done too much desktop support where things just as stupid have come up.

    There was the time (many, many years ago) I sent a 3.5" floppy to someone with both a 3.5" and 5.25" drive. She calls me up and asks which one to put it in, claiming the big one looks ike it can hold both sizes.

    Of course, the any key one is a bit of a mystery. Not so much because I don't think people would ask that question, but rather becuase it's been years since I've seen that asked (usually it's the "click OK to continue").

    1. Re:It's Likely True by Scrameustache · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Of course, the any key one is a bit of a mystery. Not so much because I don't think people would ask that question, but rather becuase it's been years since I've seen that asked (usually it's the "click OK to continue").

      I still see it, and I find it very annoying, because its such a lie! The SHIFT key doesn't count, neither does ESCAPE...

      "Press ANY key...no, not that one...no, not that one either...any key except the ones that don't count...keep trying..."

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    2. Re:It's Likely True by RPoet · · Score: 2, Funny

      I had a friend call me up about a web site. "Which one do I press if I want to download? Do I press 'download' or 'register'?"

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    3. Re:It's Likely True by iantri · · Score: 1

      Right.. shift, because it's a modifier key and doesn't do anything by itself. Escape always seemed to work for me. (Not a modifier) So, to confuse things further, "Push any non-modifier key."

    4. Re:It's Likely True by jaredcat · · Score: 5, Funny

      How true!

      A recent example...

      Bank of America recently updated the software on their ATMs in Southern California. Now when you first put your card in, insted of asking for your PIN, it says something to the effect of (in all caps mind you):

      "BANK OF AMERICA HAS RECENTLY UPDATED THIS ATM TO MAKE IT EASIER TO USE. SOME OF THE BUTTONS THAT YOU MAY BE USED TO PRESSING NOW ARE IN DIFFERENT LOCATIONS. PRESS ANY BUTTON TO CONTINUE."

      So I go and press the biggest button on there, which happens to be the "cancel" button, and it spits out my card forcing me to start over again.

    5. Re:It's Likely True by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ppl should just use 'Press a key to continue' which avoids the confusion, even if they confuse it (uh... you get my meaning)

      You do still see it asked, in console programs.

    6. Re:It's Likely True by SpaceRook · · Score: 1

      There was the time (many, many years ago) I sent a 3.5" floppy to someone with both a 3.5" and 5.25" drive. She calls me up and asks which one to put it in, claiming the big one looks ike it can hold both sizes.

      My mom broke our 5.25" drive when she inserted a CD-ROM into it.

    7. Re:It's Likely True by RPoet · · Score: 2, Insightful

      ppl should just use 'Press a key to continue' which avoids the confusion

      They'd probably press the 'a' key, but hey, it'd work :)

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    8. Re:It's Likely True by MadocGwyn · · Score: 1

      Actually way back the in day when 3.5's were just comeing in, there WERE short runs of combo drives that could read both types, they were really neat lookin.

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    9. Re:It's Likely True by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You sir, are the reason we need FAQs like this.

    10. Re:It's Likely True by moartea · · Score: 1

      You're lucky you didnt get a blue screen.

    11. Re:It's Likely True by hesiod · · Score: 1

      > there WERE short runs of combo drives that could read both types

      I don't believe, however, that you put either disk into the same slot... The combno drives I've seen were basically a 5.25 & a 3.5 squashed together to fit in a 5.25 bay.

    12. Re:It's Likely True by Lord+Flipper · · Score: 1
      it's been years since I've seen that asked (usually it's the "click OK to continue").
      How about the Win2k Pro launch, when it wants to verify the drive (or whatever)? "To skip..."
  13. Viral Marketing by Boss,+Pointy+Haired · · Score: 1

    Yep, that's all this is. Working too - front page link on Slashdot.

    Don't do it! Don't click - don't forward this link to your friends! That's what Compaq want..

    Amazon have launched a viral marketing campaign today - a keyboard costing 1 Million dollars, but I refuse to post the link. :)

    1. Re:Viral Marketing by gl4ss · · Score: 2, Informative

      it's first created in sometime in 2001.. and modified in 2002..

      it's just stupid ass monkey wrenches that post these news and others who write it with 'teh anykyey'

      the 'teh' might have been a joke though.. dunno. it was so bad. maybe taco is having a huge hangover.

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  14. If you don't get it right the first time by ogiller · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The interesting thing is that after they created this entry they had to come back and modify it.

  15. Old solaris keyboards by zerocool^ · · Score: 1, Informative

    Old solaris keyboard (type 4 I think?) had actually two any keys. They were next to the space bar and were mappable to anything you needed. They had a little diamond on them.

    I mean, I guess a key with no specific function is an any key, right?

    ~Will

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    1. Re:Old solaris keyboards by ShortSpecialBus · · Score: 3, Informative

      I believe those are the meta keys, which do have many functions in emacs and the like.

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    2. Re:Old solaris keyboards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That would be the Meta keys. Still present on type5 and type6 sun keyboards.

  16. Finally? Years ago by tbase · · Score: 1

    This is old, old news. Long before the HP/Compaq merger. "Next up: Man killed by a Pepsi machine wins Darwin Award"

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    1. Re:Finally? Years ago by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      wasn't it a coke machine? look at those search results

    2. Re:Finally? Years ago by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If it had been a Vanilla Coke-machine it w0uld not have been a Darwin Award.

  17. hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think someone asked them this in jest only to get a serious reply back.

  18. Hey-ho! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Slainte maith, h-uile latha, na chi 'snach fhaic!

  19. I don't get it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is it funny because of the article, or the fact it's been posted no less than 3 times on Slashdot already? Come on guys, it's not 2001 anymore.

  20. Is this new? by amembleton · · Score: 1

    I'm sure I read about this last year. I think someone either emailed it to me or posted it up in a forum.

    Has anyone else already read this or am I just going mad??

    1. Re:Is this new? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I often get this feeling.

      It's not deja vu. It's more like you're just almost able to see through the thin surface of reality; you can almost touch the surface the the timespace and, if you did, you'd find both the past and the future hidden just beneath the ripples in what you perceive as present.

      Just yesterday I momentarily felt like being at two places at the same time - and it seemed like the most natural thing in the world.

    2. Re:Is this new? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      this was already posted to slashdot, that's why you all vaguely remember it

    3. Re:Is this new? by hesiod · · Score: 1

      > this was already posted to slashdot,

      That doesn't sound right... the "being in two places at once (and feeling normal)" explanation must be correct... it's CERTAINLY more plausible than a dupe. Pshhh, that never happens.

  21. It's quite old... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As you can read at the bottom of that page:

    Created: 10/8/2001 2:13:42 AM
    Modified: 10/25/2002 11:07:05 AM
    Author: Mevans

    Again:
    Where is the NUM LOCK Key?

  22. not only posted, but modified by Leto-II · · Score: 3, Funny

    From the page:

    Created: 10/8/2001 2:13:42 AM
    Modified: 10/25/2002 11:07:05 AM


    So not only did some people not know where the "any" key was, they felt the first explanation was too complicated!! Hopefully this Oct 25, 2002 answer will last another year or so before it needs to be dumbed down some more...

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    1. Re:not only posted, but modified by SharpFang · · Score: 1

      Somebody know the first version? Would be interesting to see what was "wrong" with it?!

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    2. Re:not only posted, but modified by pkaral · · Score: 2, Funny

      From the page:

      Created: 10/8/2001 2:13:42 AM
      Modified: 10/25/2002 11:07:05 AM


      We can only surmise what the previous entry read. Maybe:

      --------
      Compaq FAQ: Where do I find the "Any" key on my keyboard? (FAQ2859)

      The "Any" key is not a single key on your keyboard, but a combination of keys to be pressed simultaneously. Those keys are the ones marked "Ctrl", "Alt" and "Del". After pressing those keys, complete the action by clicking "Shutdown" on that little message box that appears. Having finished this, move away from this and any other computer you might encounter, and live a safe life in the non-digital world.
      --------

    3. Re:not only posted, but modified by Viceice · · Score: 1

      The FAQ once said:

      Compaq FAQ: Where is the ANY Key? (FAQ2859)
      This is not a key. When you are instructed to press any key, this means you can press any of the keys on the keyboard (such as the Enter key, the R key, or the space bar).

      Created: 3/23/99 9:48:24 AM
      Modified: 3/23/99 9:48:24 AM
      Author: COMPAQ - Marilyn O


      I actualy like the old one better, It's more down to earth then the current one. I feel taht if soemone has a need to to find out which is the any key, they could use soem less complicated english. Plus, Press any key sounds better then Strike any key.

      I can imagine then need to revisit this page again once those keyboards come in for replacement from over "striking".

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    4. Re:not only posted, but modified by hesiod · · Score: 1

      > So not only did some people not know where the "any" key was

      If someone were actually stupid enough (oh, no, I don't doubt it) to not know how to "press any key," how the fuck are they supposed to know what a FAQ is or even where to find one, and which one that has this answer in it?

  23. Where is the Auto-Correct? by holzp · · Score: 1

    where is teh any key?
    Looks like someone switched the h and e keys too. is that in the FAQ?

    1. Re:Where is the Auto-Correct? by tulare · · Score: 1

      No, it's a sure sign that either someone spends too much time in AOL chat, or they have been using MS Nerd for too long to do text editing (automagically swaps teh/the without bugging you about it).

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    2. Re:Where is the Auto-Correct? by mechugena · · Score: 1

      No, because then it would read... wehrh is teh any khy?

  24. Rather old by nurb432 · · Score: 1

    If you check out the date of insertion, its been there a while..

    ( and I vaguely remember reading about this on here before.... )

    Of course its NOT a joke.. many people really don't understand what we take for granted, and take things they are told literally..

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    1. Re:Rather old by Daniel · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Of course its NOT a joke.. many people really don't understand what we take for granted, and take things they are told literally..

      Just to be pendantic, this would not be a problem if people would take things literally. "Press any key to continue" means exactly that -- press ANY key. The problem is that some people read too much into it, and think it is telegraphic notation for "press *the* any key".

      Daniel

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    2. Re:Rather old by toolo · · Score: 0

      I think the real problem is that some people do not grasp English properly. 'Press the any key to continue' has a different meaning than 'Press any key to continue', grammatically speaking. Adjectives and nouns are quite different indeed.

  25. It's ok by Coderstop · · Score: 1

    The guy think it's 2001, of course he's confused as to where the 'any key' is.

  26. Press Any Key by slasho81 · · Score: 1

    In the old days it wasn't uncommon to display "Press Any Key..." instead of "Press any key...". The capital letters certainly added to the confusion.

    1. Re:Press Any Key by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Press [ANY] key? :)

  27. So old... by loginx · · Score: 1

    Seriously, this entry has been part of the Compaq FAQ for YEARS!

  28. ...And it doesn't help, too! by soccerisgod · · Score: 1

    Imagine someone reading this faq item, rejoycing that they finally found out that it means "press ANY key" and they load up that favorite applications of theirs they could never use because they didn't know what key to press, and they start to massively pound the shift key.

    Makes you wonder. From a UI designer point of view, it doesn't make a lot of sense to give the user such a superuseless choice. Why not just ask the user to press ENTER? It's much simpler, and the enter key is hard to miss... There really is such a thing as too much of a choice for dummy users :/

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    1. Re:...And it doesn't help, too! by bobintetley · · Score: 1

      When we used to write programs in assembly back in the day, it required less instructions to check if any old key on the keyboard had been pressed, rather than something specific (depending on computer architecture of course, but this applied to most).

      I seem to recall that DOS batch scripts tended to encourage people to this, because you could do "pause >nul" to make the script wait for any key to be pressed before continuing (handy for printing a message and letting the user read it before the script ran).

      Personally, I haven't seen a "Press Any Key" message in many years.

    2. Re:...And it doesn't help, too! by hesiod · · Score: 1

      > it required less instructions to check if any old key on the keyboard had been pressed,

      He just told them to press ENTER. He didn't care WHAT they pressed. If it said to press enter and they pressed something else, they weren't paying close enough attention to the program anyway, it doesn't matter.

  29. Believe it or not... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    People have asked about the any key since that infamous message first appeared.

    Just like the story about the person who used the mouse as a foot pedal, or tried to use the PC without electricity.

  30. Obligatory Simpsons joke by bazik · · Score: 2, Funny

    Homer: [reading screen] "To Start Press Any Key". Where's the ANY key? I see Esk ["ESC"], Catarl ["CTRL"], and Pig-Up ["PGUP"]. There doesn't seem to be any ANY key. Woo! All this computer hacking is making me thirsty. I think I'll order a TAB. [presses TAB key] Awp...no time for that now, the computer's starting.

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    1. Re:Obligatory Simpsons joke by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm with you 99%.

    2. Re:Obligatory Simpsons joke by whovian · · Score: 1

      Here's a WAVE file for it, among many others. Enjoy!
      (Hope it works 'cuz my sound card is kaputt.)

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    3. Re:Obligatory Simpsons joke by whovian · · Score: 2, Informative

      Hrmmmmmm...scratch those links. These should work: WAVE
      Other sounds of Homer

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    4. Re:Obligatory Simpsons joke by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      or better yet, try this. Other Sounds of Homer.

  31. where is the meta key by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I found a program called E-mac on KDE Linux 3.2 that requires a key called the meta key, does anyone know where I can get one?

    1. Re:where is the meta key by tulare · · Score: 1

      Sure, the meta key is that round one on the tower part of the computer that looks like a circle with a line going partway into it. Push that down and then hit the any key and you'll be able to use your iMacs in your computer.

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  32. wrong answer by BubbleNOP · · Score: 1

    Their answer is not quite correct. Some programs (try "pause" in Command Prompt) that ask for "any key" will not accept keys like Shift, Ctrl, Alt, etc. I think Compaq should develop their own keyboards with the Any key built in. That will make things much simpler.

    1. Re:wrong answer by bhtooefr · · Score: 1

      How 'bout someone just silkscreen Space/Any on the spacebar?

    2. Re:wrong answer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think Compaq should develop their own keyboards with the Any key built in.

      Yes, because Compaq has such a superb record of keyboard improvements-- like the split space bar, half of which is really a backspace key. WTF were they thinking on that one? Whoever the engineer was who dreamed that one up, if there's any justice in the world he should have been sacked for that and should be currently living in a refrigerator box under an overpass somewhere.

  33. true story by KingRamsis · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I was teaching the father of a friend of mine how to use computers, in our first day, he looked at me and then looked at the keyboard and said "I want you to explain to me what every key does"

    he was thinking that the keyboard is like a giant remote control with every key doing one specialized job.

    few years later windows keyboards with "email", "web", and "support" buttons emerged, I guess he was a visionary in his own way.

    1. Re:true story by NibbleAbit · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Pointess post, but I'm bored.

      Back in the early 80's, I was as close as they came to a support desk for PC's at national bank. A few calls I got:

      Bank manager calls and is having problems reading a diskette. I ask if he knows how to copy it, and he says yes. I ask for a copy, and 20 minutes later a fax gets delivered to me.

      Different bank manager always has problems with diskettes after first use. Many days of troubleshooting by phone, hardware replacements, and of course countless replacement diskettes being shipped out. Finall I fly to the other side of the country to see what is happening. He bought a bunch of large donut magnets specifically to stick diskettes on to his whiteboard so they woud be easy to find when he needed them.

      These examples humbled me. These were intellegent people, they just had a different assumption set than I did.

    2. Re:true story by The+Patient · · Score: 3, Funny

      After you explained SysRq, did his head explode or implode?

    3. Re:true story by KingRamsis · · Score: 1

      LOLZz
      that was back when win 3.11 was a hot thing, and true type fonts were a surprassed alien technology found on board a fallen UFO.

    4. Re:true story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      These examples humbled me. These were intellegent people, they just had a different assumption set than I did.

      In an IBM class years back, the instructor told us about his manager, a good manager, but not very technical. They installed a new 3270 terminal in the guy's office. One day, two weeks later, the manager came out and said, "How do you turn this thing on?"

    5. Re:true story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      After you explained SysRq, did his head explode or implode?

      If he was in a TSO session, the session imploded.

    6. Re:true story by Kashif+Shaikh · · Score: 1

      Funny, every key under vi in control mode has a specialized job. :q quit :y yank :w write

      etc..

  34. I've just noticed... by amembleton · · Score: 1

    ...the following from the article:

    Created: 10/8/2001 2:13:42 AM
    Modified: 10/25/2002 11:07:05 AM

    Well, I probably did see it last year and judging by the other comments here so has everyone else. I may have even seen it on /. before!

  35. Their customers buy MS machines by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Of course, they need that FAQ.

  36. For more of the same.... by fuctape · · Score: 1
    Check out: http://rinkworks.com/stupid/

    It's a large collection of tech-support queries and conversations.

    1. Re:For more of the same.... by tulare · · Score: 1

      And, for the counterpoint to these, don't miss the Chronicles of George - the real-life helpdesk tickets written by that idiotic tech you always seem to get after spending 45 minutes in the hold queue who is utterly helpless and ends up "escalating" your call back into the hold queue again - if he doesn't accidentally terminate the call instead!
      Source of the word "havening" by the way.

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  37. Wait a second... by joel8x · · Score: 4, Funny

    If someone can't find the "Any" key then how did they connect to the internet, navigate to Compaq's website, determine what "FAQ" stands for, and then read it to find out that there is no "Any" key?

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    1. Re:Wait a second... by newsdee · · Score: 1

      Ask them to add the explanation to the FAQ :-)

      Seriously though, maybe it's just a way for HP technicians to be able to say "RTFM" in a more polite way to their customers.

    2. Re:Wait a second... by sco08y · · Score: 1

      If someone can't find the "Any" key then how did they connect to the internet, navigate to Compaq's website, determine what "FAQ" stands for, and then read it to find out that there is no "Any" key?

      When you call tech support, usually all they do is run a search on the website.

      It may well be for their benefit.

    3. Re:Wait a second... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're right, if someone can't find any key, the mouse wouldn't be sufficient. But is any key needed to access the internet today?

    4. Re:Wait a second... by TeknoHog · · Score: 1
      If someone can't find the "Any" key then how did they connect to the internet, navigate to Compaq's website,...

      But there's no need to connect if they already had the Internet on their computer.

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    5. Re:Wait a second... by dk.r*nger · · Score: 1

      They'll just hit random keys until it goes away, hoping nothing will break ...

    6. Re:Wait a second... by Wateshay · · Score: 1

      I certainly hope that the tech support staff doesn't need to look up the answer to that question on the website.

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      "If English was good enough for Jesus, it's good enough for everyone else."

    7. Re:Wait a second... by jeremyp · · Score: 1

      That's interesting.

      Now I think about it, the ISP for our office is not the most reliable in the World, so we have lost our connection a couple of times. You inevitably hear the cry "the internet is down" when this happens. We are an IT company, so it is, of course just shorthand for "our ISP has screwed up again". It's also reminiscent of an old British newspaper headline "fog in the channel, continent cut off".

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    8. Re:Wait a second... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They used Windows, thats how.

  38. My keboard's broken by rde · · Score: 1

    Finally! No longer do I have to spend hours looking for that damn key; boy, do I feel silly.

    Of course, now I've a different problem. Secure in the knowledge that I could press any key, I whacked the one marked Ctrl. Nothing. So I tried the uparrow key above it; niente. Surely Caps Lock'll work? Nah.

    Bloody compaq. I'm never buying one of their poxy keybaords again.

    But kudos to Compaq (or HP) nonetheless. In their ergonomic guide, they even show you what you should look like when you're standing.

  39. The answer is wrong by Florian+Weimer · · Score: 1

    Typically, "any key" refers to any key except those labeled "Shift", "Alt", "Ctrl", "Pause", "Scroll Lock", "Print Screen", "NumLock", and some more with logos.

    1. Re:The answer is wrong by SharpFang · · Score: 1

      Usually the first key people try after they see this and don't know whick key to press, is the one with a triangle picture. Reset.

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    2. Re:The answer is wrong by mechugena · · Score: 1

      So..."any" key doesn't necessarily mean "any key"? My head is starting to hurt!

  40. Obligitory Simpsons Quote by dicepackage · · Score: 1

    Homer: "To start press any key. Wheres the any key? I see esc catarl and pigup. There doesn't seem to be any any key. All this computer hacking is making me thirsty I think I'll order a tab" hits tab "no time for that now the computers starting"

    1. Re:Obligitory Simpsons Quote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Homer: "To start press any key. Wheres the any key? I see esc catarl and pigup. There doesn't seem to be any any key. All this computer hacking is making me thirsty I think I'll order a tab" hits tab "no time for that now the computers starting"

      Score -1: Redundant. Jesus christ, read up a few comments and you'll see someone already posted that.

    2. Re:Obligitory Simpsons Quote by dicepackage · · Score: 1

      I read all posts and it this wasn't there. By the time I posted some other people already added it.

  41. Slow news day, huh. by GillBates0 · · Score: 1

    Press any key to continue or any other key to quit.

    Press any key... no, no, no, NOT THAT ONE!

    The information went data way -------->

    BREAKFAST.COM Halted...Cereal Port Not Responding

    The name is Baud......, James Baud.

    BUFFERS=20 FILES=15 2nd down, 4th quarter, 5 yards to go!

    C:\> Bad command or file name! Go stand in the corner.

    Bad command. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaay..

    Southern DOS: Y'all reckon? (Yep/Nope)

    Disinformation is not as good as datinformation.

    Who's General Failure & why's he reading my disk?

    RAM disk is *not* an installation procedure.

    Shell to DOS...Come in DOS, do you copy? Shell to DOS...

    Enter any 11-digit prime number to continue...

    ASCII stupid question, get a stupid ANSI!

    All wiyht. Rho sritched mg kegtops awound?

    DOS Tip #17: Add DEVICE=FNGRCROS.SYS to CONFIG.SYS

    If your mouse is missing, try the foot pedal.

    Shamelessly ripped from : http://paul.merton.ox.ac.uk/computing/one-liners.h tml

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  42. c'mon guys. by dance2die · · Score: 1

    I had my mom and pops having trouble finding "any" key for real! Please don't make fun of those who don't know as much about computers as we do.

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    1. Re:c'mon guys. by tulare · · Score: 1

      And you didn't find that funny? It's funny - laugh! How the hell else are we supposed to deal with the constant stress of people disparaging our profession and tools because somebody wrote crappy software that our unlarted masses were then expected to operate?

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  43. Old news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I remember seeing this in the Dell Laptop License Agreement story...

  44. A bit off-topic... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...but the most unused key has to be "scroll lock". What does it do? Which programs takes advantage of it? I dont think I've ever used it.

    1. Re:A bit off-topic... by SharpFang · · Score: 1

      D0h. Just match it to "Hyper" or some other Meta...

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    2. Re:A bit off-topic... by tulare · · Score: 1

      Scroll-Lock, as far as I can see is most useful in activating the KVM switch menu so that I can switch it to another computer.

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    3. Re:A bit off-topic... by Little+Brother · · Score: 1
      I've answered this once in responce to another thread, so this might be redundant posting, but I'm not sure everyone will see that other post (as it is three levels down) so I'll go ahead and try again.

      A long long time ago (in this galaxy) before the day of |more if you wanted to see the top of a large output you would depress the scroll lock key. This would keep the output from going beyond one screen of text. You could then quickly depress it twice more to get an almost page-by-page view of the output.

      This is occasionaly still usefull in that you can use it to get BIOS messages to stay on the screen longer instead of scrolling right off. (Most bioses will still support scroll lock, but there are a few exceptions). Anyone else still use an un-remaped scroll lock occasionaly?

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  45. This Article is a Lame Waste of Space by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The subject line offers my opinion of this thread.

    Here's something more interesting:
    Hackers - The Missing BBS Files (TAP / PCNet-ABBS / 8BBS / DFM-BBS / CommuniTree).

    http://www.flyingsnail.com/missingbbs/index.html

    At least the 'below your threshold' folks will have something interesting to do.

  46. "I feel raped." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Any key? Where's the any key? I think I'll order a tab. *click* Oh, no time for that, time to work!

  47. Real old. by TheLink · · Score: 1

    Plus the shift key usually doesn't work.

    Now a more nerdy question would be:

    What are the safest keys to press to turn off the screen saver or monitor power saving mode? Basically when the PC is on, and the monitor is blank coz it's gone to power saving or whatever.

    First thing to try is probably the mouse but if that doesn't work, what is the safest key to press?

    It's definitely not Enter, nor Ctrl-alt-del ;).

    Currently I'm thinking of num-lock, followed by capslock, then maybe alt, then tab.

    Suggestions?

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    1. Re:Real old. by BRUTICUS · · Score: 1

      yeah or possibly Windows key or SHift key\

      what DOES scroll lock do?

    2. Re:Real old. by Ayrehtek · · Score: 1

      Personally, I prefer the CTRL key or any of the arrow keys.

      As far as Scroll Lock goes in Windows, I don't think it does a whole lot. It has uses in *nix, but Windows just ignores it (or Windows developers ignore it).

    3. Re:Real old. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shift is the safest. And yes, it does work. Second is caps locks (twice of course) or ctrl. pgup/pgdn or numlock are pretty safe too

    4. Re:Real old. by Zakabog · · Score: 1

      Shift, then ctrl if shift doesn't work. You can press those two keys in any program and they won't do anything without you holding them down and pressing a second key.

      Home and end are also pretty safe along with page up, page down. Although those 4 keys will do stuff in most programs.

      Alt I wouldn't press cause it'd go to the top bar of whatever your program you're in and highlight one of the options. Tab might switch to something you don't want to switch to, caps lock well that toggles something so you'd have to press it twice, same with numlock.

    5. Re:Real old. by Splab · · Score: 1

      Try opening excel and hit the scroll key, then use the arrow keys to scroll around.. nifty huh?

    6. Re:Real old. by Unregistered · · Score: 1

      letter keys. They don't usually do anything that can't be solved with undo.

    7. Re:Real old. by jalfieri · · Score: 1

      scroll lock.

      nobody uses it for anything, and it's a very high level interrupt. I also use it to check whether the computer is frozen or just busy, since it should toggle the LED no matter what, unless it's dead.

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    8. Re:Real old. by hesiod · · Score: 1

      > Try opening excel and hit the scroll key, then use the arrow keys to scroll around.. nifty huh?

      No, because it doesn't do anything. Maybe I have too new of a version of Excel or something. What's it supposed to do? (My scroll lock light doesn't even come on)

    9. Re:Real old. by hesiod · · Score: 1

      > They don't usually do anything that can't be solved with undo.

      Undo, also known as "Backspace."

  48. The limit!! by KoolDude · · Score: 4, Funny


    The term "any key"... particular key on the keyboard

    That's fine. But, where's the "particular key" ?

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  49. Don't confuse stupid with unfamiliar by dsfox · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why shouldn't the bigger one be able to hold either? You just happen to know it doesn't.

    1. Re:Don't confuse stupid with unfamiliar by iCharles · · Score: 1

      I pondered that at the time, as I was worried someone would try it (this was early-nineties, and the computer-to-user ratio was like 1:2).

      So I grabbed a 3.5" disk, and tried to put it in a larger drive. The disk was too think to go in more than a quarter-inch.

    2. Re:Don't confuse stupid with unfamiliar by Erasmus+Darwin · · Score: 0, Redundant
      "Why shouldn't the bigger one be able to hold either?"

      I'd agree with that line of reasoning if the machine didn't have a 3.5" drive. However, on a machine with both drives (as in the example), it should be obvious that one of the two slots is a just about perfect fit, while the other slot is an oversized fit. Thus, you could make a fairly reasonable guess as to which one it should go in.

    3. Re:Don't confuse stupid with unfamiliar by rev063 · · Score: 1
      Thus, you could make a fairly reasonable guess as to which one it should go in.

      But that's just the point! It would be a guess and, more importantly, the hapless user doesn't know what would happen if the wrong guess was made. Maybe the PC would explode -- they have no idea. So from the user's point of view checking first is exactly the right thing to do.

      That's why it's important to take ALL guesswork out of user instructions. The "press any key" scenario is the perfect example -- "press the space bar" would be a far better instruction.

    4. Re:Don't confuse stupid with unfamiliar by Erasmus+Darwin · · Score: 0
      "It would be a guess and, more importantly, the hapless user doesn't know what would happen if the wrong guess was made. Maybe the PC would explode -- they have no idea. So from the user's point of view checking first is exactly the right thing to do."

      Yeah, it's generally a good idea to be safe rather than sorry. However, I think that people have to be willing to take a few minor risks if they're interested in ever learning to figure things out on their own. Making an educated guess as to how things work and then carefully confirming it is the only way to truly get comfortable with computers. Books and classes and asking other people for advice are all useful supplements, but nothing beats internal problem solving abilities.

      So while I agree with you that we can't quite fault the user for double-checking (especially since putting the wrong media in the wrong slot has been known to cause serious problems), it's still worth noting that cautious experimentation in this case was biased in favor of the user discovering the correct solution.

  50. 'any key" by maccrapper · · Score: 0

    I had one of those internet appliances that everyone was hacking with Linux (what did they call those things?) *I'm old I need more memory* Anyway it had a "Pizza"key that I thought was as good an any key as any other..

  51. believe me or not.... by geronimo_jerry · · Score: 1

    Over the years since 1993, I have taught many computer courses to individuals with any where from beginner level skills to prospecting administrators. I have upon several occasions found users looking for the elusive "any" key. It brings new meaning to "Press Any Key to Continue".

    --
    Jerry Fletcher,
    Privacy Protection By:
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    1. Re:believe me or not.... by hesiod · · Score: 1

      > It brings new meaning to "Press Any Key to Continue".

      Does it now? I don't think it brings any new meaning to it 'cuz THAT'S WHAT WE'RE FUCKING TALKING ABOUT. Your post was simply a long way of saying "hey, me too! I know stupid people too!"

      *Look, everybody, I'm a troll! WHEEEE!!! I'm a troll!!!*

  52. Even professionals sometimes need things like this by Sara+Chan · · Score: 1
    A few decades ago, IBM changed some of their computer service manuals to refer to the "AMD". This was the "Air Movement Device"--what most people call a "fan".

    The story I heard was that IBM's manuals had originally described the device as a fan. Some servicemen, though, were so used to TLAs (Three-Letter Acronyms), that when they read about the "fan" they tried to find the "F.A.N.". And couldn't.

  53. The FAQ is wrong by terminal.dk · · Score: 4, Informative

    Unfortunately, I have discovered that the FAQ is wrong.

    As I am lazy, I often pick a key near the edge of the keyboard, and I have found that ctrl, caps lock, alt, and shift are not any key at all.

    The FAQ should be updated to reflect that some keys just are not any key.

  54. My favorite keyboard haiku by lildogie · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Keyboard not present,
    Press F1 to continue."
    Zen engineering?

    1. Re:My favorite keyboard haiku by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, plug in a keyboard and press F1 to continue, duh.

    2. Re:My favorite keyboard haiku by kc0dby · · Score: 1

      What really wierded me out was the time I just said "WTF!" and hit the F1 key- And the computer continued.

      Mind you this was not the "keyboard error" message, but rather the "no keyboard attached" error. I think my keyboard must have just been taking awhile to get going that first time...

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    3. Re:My favorite keyboard haiku by alienmole · · Score: 1

      > Well, plug in a keyboard and press F1 to continue, duh.

      With older machines, you couldn't plug a keyboard in after the machine had been turned on - it wouldn't be recognized. You still used to get that message, though.

    4. Re:My favorite keyboard haiku by Malfourmed · · Score: 1
      "Keyboard not present,
      Press F1 to continue."

      I've actually seen a BIOS error very similar to this on an IBM PC.
    5. Re:My favorite keyboard haiku by hesiod · · Score: 1

      > > "Keyboard not present,
      > > Press F1 to continue."
      > I've actually seen a BIOS error very similar to this on an IBM PC.

      Oooh, can't slip one past you, can he.

  55. THEY ARE LYING ! ... it exists ! by mxpengin · · Score: 2, Informative

    The "any key" really exists ... you can buy it at : userfriendly

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  56. I assure you this, by pair-a-noyd · · Score: 1

    This was in response to NEED, not humor.
    The vast majority of the people out there have no business operating any equipment, much less computers.

    They would be better off using "net appliances" that only browse and do email, nothing else. So as to spare the rest of us the agony of their stupidity..

  57. Be afraid, it's real by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've done phone tech support.

    The anykey is a real issue.
    Some other 'wonderful' (L)user errors:

    Can't install software, doesn't know how to turn computer on, even when shown the power switch labeled on/off.

    Trying to fax paper by holding it up to monitor for half an hour.

    Won't take incoming faxs to fax machine, afraid an airborne computer virus will go from it to the computer.

    Can't right-click on an icon, they keep trying to spell 'right-click' instead of doing it. (Note: It wasn't a mac user)

    Wants to know why the scheduled events don't run at night when the computer is turned OFF.

    Only has half the required memory for the software and thinks half the software will run.

    Doesn't have a modem (much less a fax modem) and wants to use fax software.

    Believes their modem is infected with a virus.

    Claims to be a software engineer, but that his C: drive has no logical drives or partitions...

    wants an error fixed immmedeatly on a computer over 100 miles away from caller. Caller has no access at all to computer, not even by calling someone else. Has no idea what the error was. And still wants it fixed right Now! (Yes sir, we'll send our magical silicon fairies out immediately, they've just been topped off with miracle dust. While they're there, do you have any dead housepets you'd like ressurected?)

    Well, the list of stupidities could go on and on.
    These all were just Some of the examples I've personally had to deal with. Many of them have happened numerous times. The last one happens at least once a week if you support corporate callers. Way too many people think computers are magical black boxes.

  58. "space bar" by hey · · Score: 1

    I heard the story where somebody luser thought
    the "space bar" was a drinking establishment in outer space.

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    I might point out that the explanation recursively uses the word "any". It would be better if they said: "it doesn't matter which key you press" or something like that.

  59. Not so dumb by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Anyone around in the olde days will recall machines having full words on the keyboard. Home users may recall the likes of sinclair machines having 4 or 5 words per key. It's no wonder some people looked for "any".

  60. It is a coding bug by tgibney · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I have always considered "Press any key to continue" a bug for two reasons.
    1) not any key will work (i.e Shift, Control etc.)
    2) there is much easier answer.

    The proper message is "Press a key to continue" because the worst they will do is press "a"

    1. Re:It is a coding bug by hesiod · · Score: 1

      > The proper message is "Press a key to continue" because the worst they will do is press "a"

      You have not worked in helpdesk long enough. Never underestimate how stupid people are... I'm surprised more people, when asked to press a "key," try to find the lock mechanism on their computers (if they recognize the circle-lock, it might get interesting), or get out their car keys or something stupid like that.

  61. Obligatory WP Post by El_Ge_Ex · · Score: 5, Funny

    Taken from: http://home.ptd.net/~hjcotton/jokes/wptechsupport. htm

    This is a true story from the Word Perfect Help line which was transcribed from recording monitoring the customer care department. Needless to say the HelpDesk employee was fired; however, he/she is currently suing the WordPerfect organization for "Termination without cause."

    Actual dialogue of a former WordPerfect Customer Support employee (now I know why they record these conversations).

    "Ridge Hall Computer assistance; may I help you?"
    "Yes, well, I'm having trouble with WordPerfect."
    "What sort of trouble?"
    "Well I was just typing along, and all of a sudden the words went away."
    "Went away?"
    "They disappear."
    "Hmmm. so what does you screen look like now?"
    "Nothing."
    "Nothing?"
    "It's blank; it won't accept anything when I type."
    "Are you still in WordPerfect or did you get out?"
    "How do I tell?"
    "Can you see the C: prompt of the screen?"
    "What's a sea-prompt?"
    "Never mind can you move your cursor around the screen?"
    "There isn't any cursor; I told you, it won't accept anything I type."
    "Does your monitor have a power indicator?"
    "What's a monitor?"
    "It's the thing with the screen on it that looks like a TV."
    "Does it have a little light that tells you when it's on?"
    "I don't know?"
    "Well. then look on the back of the monitor and find where the power cord goes into it. Can you see that?"
    "Yes, I think so."
    "Great. Follow the cord to the plug, and tell me if it's plugged into the wall."
    "Yes, it is."
    "When you were behind the monitor, did you notice that there were two cables plugged into the back of
    it, not just one?"

    "No."
    "Well, there are. I need you to look back there again and find the other cable."
    "Okay, here it is"
    "Follow it for me, and tell me if it's plugged securely into the back of your computer."

    "I can't reach it."
    "Uh huh. Well, can you see if it is?"
    "No."
    "Even if you maybe put your knee on something and lean way over?"
    "Oh, it's not because I don't have the right angle - it's because it's dark."
    "Dark?"
    "Yes the office light is off, and the only light I have is coming from the window."
    "Well, turn on the office light then."
    "I can't."
    "No, why not?"
    "Because there's a power failure."
    "A power....... a power failure? Aha, Okay, we've got it licked now. Do you still have the boxes and
    manuals and packing stuff your computer came in?"

    "Well, yes I keep them in the closet."
    "Good. Go get them, and unplug your system and pack it up just like it was when you got it. Then take
    it back to the store you bought it from."

    "Really? Is it that bad?"
    "Yes, I'm afraid it is."
    "Well, all right then, I suppose. What do I tell them?"
    "Tell them you're too @#!%ing stupid to own a computer."

    1. Re:Obligatory WP Post by Rojo^ · · Score: 4, Informative

      That particular story has been told not only regarding Word Perfect's tech support, but several other service providers and software support lines. Check out this explanation of the origins of this particular story, which probably didn't really happen at all.

      Good story though. Quite relevant =) I wish I could tell my users that just about every day.

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    2. Re:Obligatory WP Post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As ignorant as some people are regarding computers, I doubt anybody would believe the computer can run during a power failure. After all, nothing else they use works. And no doubt they own a TV.

    3. Re:Obligatory WP Post by hesiod · · Score: 1

      > As ignorant as some people are regarding computers,

      I tend to agree, but people still believe in God, and that hasn't worked for two thousand years.

  62. Nothing new... but neccessary all the same by Punk+Walrus · · Score: 1

    I know that I got confused when I started a Mac Quadra for the first time, because the Power On button was on the keyboard.

    Years later, in a call center, I saw a pile of old keyboards from some Gateway computers (maybe from the 486 era), and there was a button labeled "Start Here." I was told it was a power-on button and someone had actually written "The Any Key" with a sharpie on some of the keyboards as a joke. Too bad the keyboards needed a proprietary driver for the "power-on" to work, which is why they were yanked and replaced with regular keyboards upon delivery.

  63. Need a new excuse.. by knghtrider · · Score: 1

    Drat..now I can't tell the (L)users that they need to wait for tech support to come by and replace their keyboard, and that they'll need to find another means to work until then. How does next Friday at 1pm sound for an appointment?

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  64. The "Any key" are supposed to be used like this... by daytona · · Score: 1

    http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20030128

    Daytona

  65. Re:Don't confuse stupid with unfamiIiar by dsfox · · Score: 1

    This makes perfect sense if you are interested in computers. If you aren't interested in computers, especially if you are uncomfortable with them, there is a very good chance you will just make sure you have the correct information before trying anything.

  66. Re: M*n this is s*d by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ye*h, wh*t *bout the people with * keybo*rd where the *-key is missing.

    OK, I need * new keybo*rd.

    - *nonymous Cow*rd

  67. I'll just google for it by jamesmp · · Score: 2, Funny

    Imagine if you will a new computer user...

    do doot da doo..
    I'll just install this new screensaver/hotbar spyware application that uncle Neal recomended.

    dum dee dee dum doodle do
    EULA, next
    INSTALL DIRECTORY, next
    TO COMPLETE THIS INSTALLATION, Click ANY KEY
    do doot da?????? WTF!
    Where is the ANY Key?
    Alt+Tab
    Load IE,
    Type www.google.com
    Type "Where is Any Key"
    http://www.google.ca/search?q=where+is+any+k ey&ie= UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&meta=

    I'll just look at the Compaq Support Doc's for this..

    OOOhh it all makes sense now.
    dum dum diddle dummm...
    Alt+Tab
    a

  68. I read the article by aled · · Score: 1

    and still doesn't answer the question!
    Where really is the any key? shall we ask slashdot?

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    "I think this line is mostly filler"
  69. One time at tech support... by bboyers · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...many years ago a caller and a problem with their computer. I told her the only thing to do with that problem was to "reboot" the computer. She made me confirm that's what I wanted her to do, so she did it.

    At this time I start hearing a "clunk, clunk" coming through the handset. Well, to say the least she was kicking her computer, since I told her to "boot" her computer.

  70. The real ANSWER is... by SharpFang · · Score: 5, Funny

    That's not a computer question. That question is of philosophical nature. Alternatively, a psychoterapist could ask it...

    Answer:
    Space bar: Penile complex (too short penis)
    Ctrl: Control Freak.
    Enter: Vaginal mania.
    Tab: Just a drunkard.
    Esc: Depression.
    F1: Leadership maniac.
    Backspace: Anal tendencies.
    Del: Will for destruction.
    Shift: Double personality
    ctrl-alt-del: They are out to get you!
    The Windows key: They already got you!

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    1. Re:The real ANSWER is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      so wait ... my penis is to short??

    2. Re:The real ANSWER is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hard to tell, you'd need to get it erect first.

    3. Re:The real ANSWER is... by Unregistered · · Score: 1

      what if i just whack the keyboard real hard sorta in the middle. I have several any keys

    4. Re:The real ANSWER is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Now you have multiple personalities, obviously :P

    5. Re:The real ANSWER is... by Unregistered · · Score: 1

      No i don't

    6. Re:The real ANSWER is... by Unregistered · · Score: 1

      I guess that explains it

    7. Re:The real ANSWER is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "No, we don't".

  71. Better answer: by Alsee · · Score: 5, Informative

    If anyone ever actually asks you that question it is vital to give the simplest answer possible. Compaq's FAQ answer is still "too complicated" and may cause the loss of your own sanity when they still get confused.

    Better answer:

    "Any key" is another name for the space bar.

    At this point they will inevitably make a second second assault on your sanity. It is vital to be prepared for this devious one-two combo attack. The deady follow-up question is generally some varient of 'why', such as "why didn't they just say to press the space bar?" or "why isn't the spacebar propery labeled?"

    No matter what the exact question is, the only safe answer is:

    "I don't know."

    If they keep asking about it just keep repeating "I don't know" until the psych-assault ends. Trying to give any other answer will result in severe pain and possible loss of sanity.

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    1. Re:Better answer: by Unregistered · · Score: 1

      just tell them it has the space charactor on it.

    2. Re:Better answer: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      An IT support guy saying "I don't know" ???

      Wow! Where do YOU work?

    3. Re:Better answer: by Phroggy · · Score: 1

      No matter what the exact question is, the only safe answer is:

      "I don't know."


      Agreed. This statement transforms the situation from the customer vs. the tech support agent into the customer and the tech support agent vs. the mysterious Powers That Be. You've just made a connection with the customer that enables them to see you on their level, as another human being stuck in the same world they are, who just happens to know what they need to do to get their problem fixed. If the customer perceives a situation to be bad, take their side. If you can make it right, do so. If you can't, but it is fixable, offer to pass their concern along. If it's not fixable, make them feel like you're just as much a victim as they are - we're all in this together.

      Note that if you say you'll pass their concern along, it's good karma to actually do so. If nobody gives a rat's ass about the customers, do what you need to do to keep your job; collecting bad karma isn't really so bad.

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    4. Re:Better answer: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      try having a user that is not only confused by not having an "Any" key but also they cant locate the space bar aswell as most keyboards dont label it. Thats when you start thinking about what you did to deserve this.

  72. Ohh... by ScriptGuru · · Score: 1

    Any key on the keyboard. 'Bout time someone told me. That explains why pressing my car key wouldn't work.

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  73. Helldesk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Back when I had to work the helldesk I would tell customers that the "any" key was their spacebar when asked. I would tell them that keyboard manufactures had stopped labelling the key some time ago in order to save production costs. People bought it hook line and sinker every single time. More to the point, they now knew where the "any" key was and we could get on with things.

  74. Label your computer for the user! by jhines · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I got a set of labels from cyberguys, which allows all the ports to be labeled, with a matching label for the cable.

    Included is the "any" label, which can be applied as needed.

    Great if your building a PC for a less than technical user, like a family member.

  75. A joke? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Pray that this was added to the FAQ as a joke, and not in response to legitimate need

    Wanna bet?

  76. Are you Linux developers listening? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Its things like this that will hinder linux on the desktop. With sun, suse, mandrake, lindows and others marketing linux on the desktop expect a whole lot more (l)users. Here is an example tech support call.

    User : How do I run the gimp
    Tech support : click the k button, then select "The Gimp" from the graphics menu.
    User : All I get it is a K appearing in my word processor
    Tech support : Not the k key, the k button. Its a gear with a letter K engraved on it on the bottom left corner of the screen.
    User : I don't see a gear, I see a G shaped foot.
    Tech support : *sigh* Click the G shaped foot then, and look for the icon that has a moster with big eyes.
    User : I have two big eyes looking at my mouse cursor.

    And so on.

  77. Did you know... by stubblehead · · Score: 1

    by typing only 'Y' instead of 'Y-E-S' you can triple your productivity?

    Of course, your ass has to have it's own congressman.

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  78. A problem with the FAQ entry... by VesperDEM · · Score: 2, Informative

    Sure, they say it means to press any key on the keyboard... The problem is they don't say not to use the Shift, Ctrl, or Alt keys since they are "modifier" keys. So someone may actually press the shift key and it still won't work. :)

    1. Re:A problem with the FAQ entry... by z_gringo · · Score: 1

      actually, the shift works just fine..

      for most stuff anyway..

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  79. I have an "any key" on my keyboard. by heliocentric · · Score: 5, Funny

    I have a Sun Type 6 (non-usb) keyboard that has the any key right betwen the help and the F1 keys. It's just above Esc.

    Mind you it's a completely blank key that I have never found a use for so I wrote 'any' on it (figuring it must be the any key).

    My other hypothesis is that this key has a tie-in to solaris and it monitors user gruntle level. As a user begins to lose their gruntles (and become disgruntled) they bash on the keyboard, tripping this key. Once a user reaches a certain level their account should be locked. Unfortunitly all of my sun training and years as admin never demonistrated how to incorporate this with the business plan. *sigh* I guess it's just the any key.

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    1. Re:I have an "any key" on my keyboard. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I find myself compelled to answer the semi-serious question behind the joke... . This should go on a Sun FAQ.

      What you have in (under) your hands is a Sun Type 6 "UNIX" keyboard (i.e., one laid out in a sane fashion). The Control key is where God intended it to be, next to the "A" key, and the Caps Lock key is relatively out of harm's way, down in the lower-left corner. The Escape key is where all good Escape keys live, next to the number 1.

      Because Sun recognizes its obligation to help those with terrible afflications, there is also the Sun Type 6 "DOS" keyboard. The Control key is now lurking where the Caps Lock should be and vice versa, woe be unto all of this that have had this inflicted on us, and the tilde key has usurped the rightful position of the Escape key. The Escape key, with nowhere else to run to, has fled to the left of the F1 key. Look down, all you benighted PC users, and you will see similar devastation on *your* keyboard.

      The thing is, both keyboards have the same physical key layout -- the only difference is the keycaps and the default setting for the keycodes. And for the UNIX layout, there's *no real use* for that stranded key up by F1. What are they gonna put up there, a Windows key?

      I applaud you for coming up with an appropriate label, and I for one will also call that the "Any" key from now on.

    2. Re:I have an "any key" on my keyboard. by multipartmixed · · Score: 1

      FWIW, the Sun type 5c keyboard is like that, too. IIRC, the type 4 wasn't. What's the type 6? I don't think I've seen one of those.. although we do have some funky-looking keyboards with wrist rests around here somewhere... junked in a box because they came with the control key in the wrong place..

      What I can't figure about my "Any" key, though, is why it's dirty. WTF? I can understand why the other keys are dirty, I've had this keyboard at my desk for five or six years. But I don't think I've *ever* hit the "Any" key in all that time.

      Huh. Guess I'll have to clean the keycap so I can label it.. Now, where are my rub-on letters...

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  80. One of my favorites by dmorin · · Score: 4, Funny
    True story, made it to rec.humor.funny a few years back. I watched our tester Jane trying to crash our product. She got to an any key screen, and pushed "J." I screamed "Jane! Why did you press J!?"

    "It said any key."

    "When programmers say any key they mean the space bar!"

    At this point the other programmer on the team piped in with, "We do? I thought we meant Enter."

    Duane

    "Build a classroom of computers for which all keyboards have one key, and tell your class to press that key. To a person, each will look at you, look at the keyboard, poise their finger over the keyboard, look at you and say, 'This one?'"

  81. Sad but true by yoshi1013 · · Score: 1
    Too bad there's no way to have a FAQ on where the power switch is. Having that FAQ on the internet would kind of defeat the purpose. But I'm sure a lot of tech support people would have fewer gray hairs if people knew how to turn on their computers.

    Dumbest question I ever got was a person who thought in order to copy Photoshop files to her disk she had to open them in Photoshop and then go to "Save As..." for each individual file. I'm like "Uh no, you can just drag them."

    1. Re:Sad but true by jez9999 · · Score: 1

      Ehm, in all fairness, it's not all *that* inconceivable that the camera's batteries could keep a negligible amount of current flowing to allow USB access to the camera's memory card, even when the camera's turned off. I suspect some USB-based devices do. Having to turn the camera on is annoying.

  82. Sad but true by rudy_wayne · · Score: 1

    I always thought these stories were mostly just urban legends, until a year ago when my wife was trying to transfer pictures from our digital camera to the computer. She connected the camera to the computer's USB port but was stuck at that point.

    When she came and got me I immediately saw the problem - the camera wasn't turned on.

    When I pointed this out to her, she looked at me with this absolute disbelief and said "it has to be turned on?"

  83. Scroll Lock by Little+Brother · · Score: 1
    Before the days of the more program (way before less) and before dos even had dir /p (pauses output after every page) the only way to see the top of a long file listing was to depress the scroll lock key. This would prevent the computer from scrolling beyond one screen of text. If you were fast you could toggle it on and off rapidly enough to scroll, more or less, page by page.

    I still occasionaly use it to get my BIOS messages to stay on the screen longer if I'm having problems. (only works if they would scroll, not reset screan and start again at top).

    Anyone else (who doesn't remap it) still use the scroll lock sometimes?

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    Little Brother, watching the watchers

    1. Re:Scroll Lock by TheLink · · Score: 1

      In slightly earlier days I used ctrl-s on the Apple II for that, and it works on dos too (nowadays you must be in full screen mode).

      It kinda works on unix, but you have to remember the corresponding ctrl-q.

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  84. The solution is obvious. Stop blaming the victim. by dpbsmith · · Score: 1

    As far back as the early nineties, I remember reading a set of guidelines for technical writers.

    One guideline specifically said never to use the language "press any key." The recommended substitute was "press the spacebar."

    The users aren't stupid. They're being presented with a complicated and badly designed system, with many keys whose functions aren't obvious, and many others ("Print Scrn") which look obvious but almost never do what the legend suggests.

  85. Actualy, no... by Viceice · · Score: 1

    The FAQ once said:

    Compaq FAQ: Where is the ANY Key? (FAQ2859)
    This is not a key. When you are instructed to press any key, this means you can press any of the keys on the keyboard (such as the Enter key, the R key, or the space bar).

    Created: 3/23/99 9:48:24 AM
    Modified: 3/23/99 9:48:24 AM
    Author: COMPAQ - Marilyn O


    So, note what it was actualy created on the 23rd of March 1999.

    I also like the old one better, coz if anyone has the need to read this FAQ (other then for laughs) telling them to STRIKE any key isn't a good idea.

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    1. Re:Actualy, no... by o1d5ch001 · · Score: 1

      Strike Any User to Continue...

      --
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  86. +1, Insightful by s20451 · · Score: 1

    n/m

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  87. Phew! by mtahrens · · Score: 1

    Phew! Glad somebody posted that, I wasn't sure where the any key was on my computer!

  88. True Story: by acoustix · · Score: 1

    During a conversation with a Compaq employee a few years ago I was told this:

    We had to rewrite the computer manuals so that the phrase "any key" was replaced by enter (or spacebar or something. I can't remember exactly what replaced "any key")

    The sad part is that every tech support employee has probably had somebody ask them about the any key.

    --
    "A plan fiendishly clever in its intricacies"- Homer Simpson
  89. Simple answer by Corporal+Tunnel · · Score: 1

    It's not a joke. Anyone who's ever had to work with customers from the general public would know that the general public is generally stupid. I worked at a movie theater for two years and I was amazed by the idiocy I witnessed!

  90. Since this seems to be a "Blam the lusers" thread by tulare · · Score: 3, Funny
    Here's my best story to date:

    I work for a school district. The week before last, I got a voicemail from a kindergarten teacher complaining that I had brought here a PC, when the software she had was all written for the Mac. Her message was about three minutes long, but overall it went something like this (just repeated a couple of times):
    "Hi, this is Mrs. X at the elementary school. When I got to work this morning I noticed that you had brought me a PCP instead of a Macintosh computer. We talked about this before, and I explained to you at that time that I can't use any PCP with my students, and my students can't use the PCP either, because none of the programs will run on the PCP. Please get this PCP out of my classroom and bring me a Macintosh instead. Thanks."
    I had a talk with the principal at the elemtary school, and between tears we managed to figure out how to get the PCP out of that teacher's classroom and replace it with a much more useful (and safer!) Macintosh instead. I'm thinking of petitioning to have my job title changed - surely I'd qualify for hazard pay as a PCP Support Specialist!
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  91. slashdot moderators should read : FAIRWITNESSING by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    thanks ac, you are right. it is better reading.

    maybe slashdot moderators would benefit from reading the following 1981 paper on fairwitnessing?

    http://www.flyingsnail.com/missingbbs/ct15.html
    http://www.flyingsnail.com/missingbbs/ct16.html
    http://www.flyingsnail.com/missingbbs/ct17.html
    h ttp://www.flyingsnail.com/missingbbs/ct18.html

    this is all under tha communitree section and the electronic bill of rights, listed there, may be of interest.

  92. why didn't they give an example? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    yeah, "you can press any one key on your keyboard", for example: "a" (without the quotes) (yes, it's there next to the "s"), c'mon!!

  93. real life example by mzs · · Score: 1

    You might think that people were never confused about the 'any key' message in old programs but I actually encounterred such a fellow. When I was in high school the middle school wrestling coach was having some trouble with his computer and he was talking to my coach about it. My coach told him that I was pretty sharp with computers and that he should ask me for help.

    When he came to me I decided that I would write a little turbo pascal program to do what he needed for him. Next practice I gave him the program. Later that day I got a phone call from him. He was stumped by the 'press any key to continue' message!

    From that point on I was careful to always use the message 'press a key to continue' instead in all of the programs I wrote. I figured that any sensible person would not have trouble with that prompt. For the clueless, they would read that and decide that it meant to press the 'a' key. (Yes the one next to s.) In either case the program would continue.

    The strange thing is that to this day I always press the 'a' key when I get prompted by programs like this. (They still exist, distro installs for example.)

    1. Re:real life example by glenstar · · Score: 2, Funny
      He was stumped by the 'press any key to continue' message!

      Must. Not. Make. Fun. Of. Wrestling.Coaches...

  94. Put yourself in their shoes by vocaro · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Yes, we've all had a few chuckles about the mistakes of new computer users. But remember that every one of us was a newbie at some point. Never forget:
    • Nobody is born knowing this stuff.
    • You've forgotten what it's like to be a beginner.
    • If it's not obvious to them, it's not obvious.
    • A computer is a means to an end. The person you're helping probably cares mostly about the end. This is reasonable.
    • Their knowledge of the computer is grounded in what they can do and see -- when I do this, it does that. They need to develop a deeper understanding, of course, but this can only happen slowly, and not through abstract theory but through the real, concrete situations they encounter in their work.
    • By the time they ask you for help, they've probably tried several different things. As a result, their computer might be in a strange state. That's not their fault.
    • Most user interfaces are terrible. When people make mistakes it's usually the fault of the interface. You've forgotten how many ways you've learned to adapt to bad interfaces. You've forgotten how many things you once assumed that the interface would be able to do for you.
    • Knowledge lives in communities, not individuals. A computer user who's not part of a community of computer users is going to have a harder time of it than one who is.
    Adapted from How to Help Someone Use a Computer
    1. Re:Put yourself in their shoes by p00ya · · Score: 1
      I hate to say it, but as long as they have a reasonable grasp of English (and have some confidence in the developer's grasp of English, which isn't always easy), then a message:
      press any key
      is distinctly different from
      press the Any key

      So, unless you're Homer Simpson, you should be able to apply some analytical skills and your grasp of English (or even, dare I say it, experiment), and work out exactly what that not-so-esoteric message actually means.

      So, don't blame this problem on the newbie-user not having the intimate knowledge that the more experienced user has. It's really a problem with their lack of intuition, or perhaps they have a fear of just going right ahead and pressing one of the 100+ keys that aren't marked "Any". Put a reasonably intelligent person in front of a screen , he doesn't have to be "born knowing this stuff," and he'll work out pretty quickly that any key will in fact do.

      There's a difference between writing a good user interface and dealing with the imbeciles.

    2. Re:Put yourself in their shoes by vocaro · · Score: 1

      True, but my comment was more in response to the various other anecdotes that have appeared in this thread -- such as the user wondering if a 3.5" disk will work in a 5.25" drive.

      Still, the "any key" story shows that the user interface could be the problem. Even the choice of capitals in the interface ("Press any key" vs. "Press Any Key") might sometimes confuse people whose first language is not English.

      It's really not so very hard to believe. I can see how someone could think the "Any" key is just another one of those confusingly-named keys like "SysRq". Even experienced computer users don't have a clue what that's for. And how about the Print Screen key? Who would ever guess that pressing it will never, ever, print the screen? It's as if the IBM-PC keyboard was designed to be confusing.

      Trevor

    3. Re:Put yourself in their shoes by jez9999 · · Score: 1

      Of course pressing 'print screen' in graphical environments will often print the screen; to the computer's memory! You assume that 'printing' always has to mean 'send data to printer'?

    4. Re:Put yourself in their shoes by be-fan · · Score: 1

      Its not just proper capitalization. "Press Any Key" means sometime different from "Press The Any Key." A pizza place could say "Choose Any Topping," and there would be no ambiguity in most people's minds.

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    5. Re:Put yourself in their shoes by vocaro · · Score: 1
      You assume that 'printing' always has to mean 'send data to printer'?

      For new computer users, yes, asbsolutely. In everyday English, "print" always refers to making some sort of hard copy. It is only in the computer world that it means something different.

      It is actually a bad thing for GUI developers to overload the meaning of "print" and start talking about "printing to memory". They are introducing an advanced concept that I would never expect a new computer user to know. After all, selecting File|Print prints the screen to paper by default, so naturally one would expect the Print Screen key to do the same thing. Remember: Just because something is obvious to you does not mean it's obvious to everyone else.

    6. Re:Put yourself in their shoes by CentrX · · Score: 1

      If there are two slots, one 3.5" and the other 5.25", and you have a 3.5" disk, the slot that it logically goes in is the 3.5" slot. It would be one thing if there was only a 5.25" slot and the person was asking if he could put the 3.5" disk in the 5.25" slot, but that's not the case. There are two options, one is clearly designed for the 3.5" disk. If you're supposed to put the 3.5" disk in the 5.25" slot instead, what the hell would be the point of the 3.5" slot? There is one other case though: that both slots can properly fit the 3.5" disk, but in that case why even bother asking? A lot of these things are matters of intelligence, not knowledge. A lack of knowledge is always understandable when you're dealing with someone in the computer world, but it's a whole other thing when someone is clearly not applying any sort of intelligent thought to what they are doing.

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    7. Re:Put yourself in their shoes by vocaro · · Score: 1
      If there are two slots, one 3.5" and the other 5.25", and you have a 3.5" disk, the slot that it logically goes in is the 3.5" slot.

      That's logical when you have one disk. What about two? I've often wanted a second 3.5" drive to avoid swapping between two disks all the time. And if I didn't know otherwise, I might logically guess that the extra drive in my computer, which takes 5.25" disks, might also be backward compatible with the 3.5" disk for exactly that reason. Of course, I wouldn't want to just stuff the disk inside and hope that it works; I'd check with someone who knows.

      Anyway, I agree that many users just don't think intelligently sometimes, but often if you look at it from their perspective, their thought process isn't all that stupid.

    8. Re:Put yourself in their shoes by dswensen · · Score: 1

      Your point is valid. Personally, I have no problem with beginners, or people who have a lot to learn but are willing to learn it. I have problems with people who A) refuse to take in any information at all, because it "should work" or something equally ridiculous, and / or B) have had their computers for months or years and have never, ever learned how to do even the most basic tasks.

      Consider the use of a computer as analagous to a motor vehicle. The way a lot of computer users behave would be tantamount to taking a car on the road without ever once consulting the manual or taking a driver's course, never using their signals, wipers, or stick-shift because they "shouldn't have to learn how, it should just work," driving it without regard to traffic lights or signs until it runs out of gas or otherwise breaks down, then indignantly taking it to the mechanic, screaming "It's been running fine forever; why does it break now?!"

      Which is precisely the attitude I get from a lot of people who call support where I work.

      I realize computers and cars are on differing levels of complexity, but the principle is the same: they are mechanical devices that operate by an unambiguous set of rules.

      Most people learn these rules, either by isntruction or experimentation. A select few decide there aren't any rules, or that said rules don't apply to them, and so never learn anything about how the machine operates. I don't think every customer who calls me ought to know what SMTP is, or how to configure Apache, but I get people who have had their computer for years and don't know what a program is, are bamboozled by the term "browser" or "Internet Explorer" (after months or years of using IE!), and can make no differentiation at all between the web, email, the internet, and word processing. That's not just a touch of understandable naivete, that's rank incompetence. Computers are indeed a means to an end, but a certain level of understanding of the means is required to get to that end.

      Granted, most of the people I work with are reasonable, sane people who know that computers are machines and not magical voodoo devices, who know how to apply a little bit of common sense, and who don't explode in an indignant rage if anyone even implies that they might consider learning how to use the machine they are apparently so dependent on.

      But then there are the others who are precisely the opposite, and I will not smile and say "oh, we were all like that once," because that's simply not the case. Only so much infantile behavior can be chalked up to inexperience. There is being a newbie, and then there is being an idiot. And those people, I feel no compunction whatsoever in mocking at length.

    9. Re:Put yourself in their shoes by p00ya · · Score: 1

      So where's your any topping?

      Yes, we've all had a few chuckles about the mistakes of new pizza consumers. But remember that every one of us was a pizza-newbie at some point.

    10. Re:Put yourself in their shoes by jez9999 · · Score: 1

      Bleh.

      If they don't want a print screen key, then give them a keyboard with that key removed.

      Computers, like many electronic devices, take some time to learn how to use. Printing to a non-hardcopy is just one caveat of the advanced nature of computers. If people can't be bothered to learn that, they really shouldn't be using anything more advanced than a typewriter.

      That's my harsh attitude, anyway. Do we want computers for advanced purposes, or for (frankly) morons who can't be bothered to learn/understand how to use semi-advanced devices? I, personally, want the former.

  95. not much of a surpise by radoni · · Score: 1

    ...dell has had this on their technical support system since '96 i believe. :)

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  96. The real issue... by bobrk · · Score: 1

    Why do you have to press a key to continue at all?

  97. Legitimate need indeed by dswensen · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This is rather redundant by this point, but I work for tech support and I never tell people to hit any "key", because I have this conversation nearly every day:

    "Go ahead and go to your Start button."
    "Start?"
    "Start."
    "Star button?"
    "START button!"
    "I don't have one."
    "It should be on the lower left hand corner of your screen."
    "Nope... I have connect to the internet, my computer, Get AOL, ZoneAlarm, BonziBuddy... oh START button!"
    "Yes! Now go to settings..."
    "Huh?!"

    Users have enough problems with the elements that are right there in front of them. So I just say hit the space bar. They can usually get that one the first time around. Usually.

  98. Hit Space Bar by skinfitz · · Score: 1

    I have seen someone punch the keyboard after seeing the message "Hit Space Bar".

    Naturally it was a sports student so no stereotypes there then.

    1. Re:Hit Space Bar by thebigmacd · · Score: 1

      LOL I do it all the time, for effect! Got a problem with that? haha

  99. *meep* An important message follows *meep* by Flopper · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Old.

  100. that's old by Transcendent · · Score: 1

    That's been around for years now...

  101. still not clear ... :-( by porky_pig_jr · · Score: 1

    The answer says:

    The term "any key" does not refer to a particular key on the keyboard. It simply means to strike any one of the keys on your keyboard or handheld screen.

    Still not clear *which* of any one of the keys.

    Yet it is certainly a step in the right direction.

  102. Keyboard manufacturers should include one by ishmalius · · Score: 1
    I have always thought that placebo keys like "Any", "More memory", and "Go faster" would help coax our proto-simian brothers out of the primordial ooze.

    This would be similar to that extra button on your car's dash that doesn't do anything, but you feel compelled to push it, anyway. And just like that Steven-Wrightesque light switch that seemingly has no function, either, but defies you to not flip it.

    Anyone agree?

    1. Re:Keyboard manufacturers should include one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No.

  103. Excessive Technophobia by nand13 · · Score: 1

    It's a bit frightening that a good percentage of the world today is technophobic. Is it so hard to grasp that the world is changing? Maybe natural selection is toying with the human race. ;P

  104. No need for this. by Sindri · · Score: 1

    There is no need for this kind of faq. Mostly because people that "can't find the any key" can't find this kind of faq either.

  105. Who is Paul Martin? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Somebody from Fox News?

  106. Disappointed... by b_w_duncan · · Score: 1

    They couldn't answer the question without using the word 'Any' in the answer.

  107. Old Joke, Two developers, and the Any key by gnugnugnu · · Score: 1

    During usability testing a user asks:
    which key is the any key?

    The first developer says, "It's the space key of course."

    The second developer responds, "What do you mean! It is the Enter key of course!"

  108. Hey Compaq... by gmaestro · · Score: 1
    How about an FAQ about why the hell every laptop you send me blows a system board in just over a month? 3 laptops, 2 different models, and all of them break within months.

    This is not a troll, either. In 18 months, 3 system boards have failed on my personal computer, this last one in less than a month. How do they stay in business if they can't send me one computer that works?

    1. Re:Hey Compaq... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have a Compaq desktop sitting right across the room. It's only been off for less than 36 hours ever since I bought it in late 2001. Works flawlessly.

    2. Re:Hey Compaq... by ChilyWily · · Score: 1

      OT but I agree - With all the 'cost savings' being done by major computer companies (not just compaq) I think we will all continue to see poorer designs and increasingly worse quality... make sure you have a good warranty :)

  109. A theory.. by iantri · · Score: 1
    I have two theories as to why people have difficulty with the 'any' key.

    First off, when you are talking to someone over the phone and tell them to "just press any key", I believe they parse that as "just press the NE key", since they are expecting some sort of jargon that they know they won't understand.

    Now, obviously, this falls apart when they can't figure out the any key in a written instruction. In those cases, I guess people just read too much into it.

    1. Re:A theory.. by wayne606 · · Score: 1

      That key would be really useful by a group of Arthurian knights...

  110. Hate to say it, but there's a need by dacarr · · Score: 4, Insightful
    There are people who use the internet who:

    * QED, need to know where the any key is
    * think the internet is operated by Microsoft or AOL
    * believe the internet is solely comprised of HTTP (my brother could be once quoted as saying "that's not the internet I use", when he spotted me using a prompt based FTP client; he's since become more clueful)
    * don't understand that not everybody runs Microsoft products
    * don't realize that an "illegal operation" is not going to get you into legal trouble
    * buy from spammers
    * think the "hard drive" is the case in which the components of their computer resides in, rather than a small box the size of two decks of cards
    * must call the local BOFH to turn on their computer daily

    In other words, users are idiots.

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  111. Re:Don't confuse stupid with unfamiIiar by be-fan · · Score: 3, Interesting

    To validate this point:

    This summer, we drove from Amsterdam to Paris in a rented car. (We're from the US, FYI). Well, it came time to fill it up, and it occurred to us that the car might be a diesel. So we called up Hertz, and unfortunately for us, the phone system was in Dutch! Looked at the manual, and it was also in Dutch. The gas station attendent, who spoke only French, insisted that the car was a diesel, because he saw the word "diesel" written in the manual. So we go ahead and try to put diesel in the engine, only to find out that the nozzle is too large to go in! It was shaped so you could only put in gasoline!

    So yes, in unfamilier situations, even relatively intelligent individuals can act rather wonky...

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  112. Obligatory luser story. by rdewald · · Score: 1

    I witnessed an executive officer, when asked to move the cursor on the screen with the mouse, pick up the mouse and place it in the glass surface of the computer monitor to (very awkwardly) move the cursor. While doing this he remarked that he thought there might be something wrong with his mouse because "it doesn't always catch it like it used to."

    I did not laugh. I was waiting to pitch a rather complicated proposal concerning the reorganization of some database tables to this same person (my first meeting with them). I was unpersuasive.

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  113. Don't need a FAQ, just fix the prompts and docs by satch89450 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    When I had a product out in the field, I had seen the "any" key problem enough that I decided not to do that. In every prompt, I specify exactly which key to depress. The documentation made it clear that a specific key was to be depressed (pressed firmly and then released quickly).

    We never got a service call on that point. EVER.

    We DID get one call from a technician who said that he pressed the wrong key and it seemed to work anyway. I assured him that he was just fine and to continue working with the product.

    As you can guess, the CODE didn't require a specific key, but the documentation and prompt specified one. I also didn't allow type-ahead on those prompts so that there wasn't a problem with astonishing results to clueless users who didn't release the key fast enough. I also had code to wait until the keyboard stopped sending characters before putting up the prompt "Depress the C key to continue."

    1. Re:Don't need a FAQ, just fix the prompts and docs by JurgenThor · · Score: 0

      "Depress the C key to continue."

      You stupid 'C' key, you don't deserve to live. You're all square and boxy, you smell funny, and so do you friends 'x' and 'v'.

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    2. Re:Don't need a FAQ, just fix the prompts and docs by nfg05 · · Score: 1

      Depress? what? what are you talking about? I know how to press keys and all, but how on earth do u depress a key? Is that like taking it completely off of the keyboard or something. I'm so confused :-/

  114. It's not funny. Don't laugh. by 3Suns · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'll admit, I laughed when I first heard the joke about clueless users who couldn't find the "any" key.

    And that might have been 8 years ago.

    Stop it, it's nowhere near funny anymore. And if you refer to the CDROM tray as a cupholder again, I'll strangle you.

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  115. Re:The solution is obvious. Stop blaming the victi by be-fan · · Score: 1

    Oh god. Most people, if you told them to "raise any finger" would raise any finger. Why shouldn't they be able to do the same for the computer?

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  116. ROFL by linuxgeek666 · · Score: 0

    Hahaha!

  117. Presss a key to continue... by green1 · · Score: 1

    I remember seeing a piece of software a long time ago... (I think it was pkunzip) that didn't ask you to "press ANY key", instead it asked you to "press A key to continue".

    I thought this was a perfect solution, the sentance means basically the same thing, and to anyone who knows what they're asking you can continue to blindly flop your hand down on the keyboard hitting whatever is there, however if you really are confused you simply press the letter "A" and that works just fine... limited tech support needed, no FAQ needed to address it, a couple less letters in the prompt, and doesn't restrict the more tech inclined people to any specific key...

  118. Finally? by J3zmund · · Score: 1

    Maybe you finally found that listing, but it was posted long ago.

    Created: 10/8/2001 2:13:42 AM
    Modified: 10/25/2002 11:07:05 AM

    Silly, kids. Besides, the ESC key is much, much cooler.

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  119. So I just need to press ANY key? by Mr+Pippin · · Score: 1

    Hmmm, I pressed "shift" and nothing happened. I then pressed "control", and again nothing happened. Hmmmm, "capslock" and "numlock" did not do anything, either. Ahhh, it must be "esc". Nope, nothing happened, either.

    I think they need to be very specific by what they mean by "any", since "any" must not mean "any".

    :-)

  120. Everybody knows that by whereiswaldo · · Score: 1

    Everybody knows where the Any key is, but what I'm wondering is, where is the ASCII?

    1. Re:Everybody knows that by wayne606 · · Score: 1

      That's the one you use to type the "logical but operator" in C

    2. Re:Everybody knows that by hesiod · · Score: 1

      > That's the one you use to type the "logical but operator" in C

      Wow, I feel stupid. I had to actually think about that for a full 20 seconds before getting it.

  121. I doubt it was a joke by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Not surprised myself, I mean they tell people to call 9-1-1 in an emergency situation so that they dont look for an 11 button on their phones.

  122. For the love of God people! by glenebob · · Score: 1

    OK, this IS funny, I have to admit. Seeing something like that on the Compaq site is pretty funny.

    But, this is NOT news for nerds, and it sure as hell is NOT STUFF THAT FUCKING MATTERS!

    Now, just press any key to mod my ass into the dirt.

  123. The subtext ... by Ninja+Programmer · · Score: 1

    I kind of read that whole "Any Key" this as:

    "You are stupid. Now you know you are stupid. We know you are stupid. Now you know that we know you are stupid. Remember that the next time you ask us a question."

  124. Expert to idiot ratio too low. by rice_burners_suck · · Score: 1
    I have this theory that when too many people enter a profession, it goes down the toilet.

    Take computers, for example. Back in the day, only professionals used computers. Stupid questions like where the "any" key is, which drive to put a 3.5" disk, what every key on the keyboard does, why the "screen went black" when a power outtage happened... ridiculous, no-common-sense questions like these did not exist.

    Now, every shmoe has a computer, a power tool of sorts, and doesn't know a damn thing about using it. The ridiculous questions that result are caused by that sort of thing.

    Take other examples: shoe makers, key makers, blacksmiths, automobile drivers... there are thousands more examples. They were masters at their craft. Nowadays, their jobs have been replaced by machines, or by idiots who don't know anything about the job. You can easily see the difference between people who deeply understand their jobs and people who don't. Unfortunately, most computer users don't know or care how to use a computer, just as most automobile drivers don't know or care how to drive a car. (People flip over, skid off the road, hit things, and cause all kinds of trouble--especially in SUVs--because they do not understand how to drive, and do not know or care about the consequences of their ignorance.

    The answer to this problem is education, and lots of it. Schools nowadays are teaching crap like political correctness, instead of important, interesting, intelligent things like how to do things, how to have respect for what you do, how to do things right.This crappy situation happened because marketing decided that more units needed to be sold; for that to happen, things needed to become user friendly. So complicated operations are (poorly) hidden behind icons and crap. Maybe instead of doing this, computers should have retained the "complicated" user interfaces of yesteryear. With a learning curve as a barrier, users might be forced to learn, and they wouldn't be so stupid.

  125. lol by panic911 · · Score: 1

    That's a hilarious article, but Compaq has had that article on their page for years... In fact .. didn't I see that article posted on slashdot a few years ago..?

  126. hmm.. by abhisarda · · Score: 4, Informative

    nobody thought of this link? or did somebody already post it?
    Computer stupidities.

  127. Stupid People and Computers Don't Mix by zorg50 · · Score: 1

    Computer Stupidities. It doesn't get updated much if at all any more but it's still hilarious.

  128. Metaphors by be-fan · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The real problem is that most people have a rather limited grasp on the abstract. Psychological research has shown (specifically, research into ethical beliefs) has shown that the majority of humanity can handle only a moderate level of abstraction. A computer is highly abstract --- there are metaphors all over the place, and using a computer requires a great deal of symbolic thinking. For example, most things are iconic. The icon *represents* the file, it is not the file itself. Also, hierarchies are used to abstract the complexity of the underlying structure. Most people just don't handle this sort of abstraction all that well.

    Now, this is not to say that they are dumb. They may be perfectly intelligent and capable in other respects. However, most of life's tasks do not require dealing with a great deal of abstraction.

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  129. "Press a Key" instead of "Press any key" by cjellibebi · · Score: 1

    Sometimes to avoid confusion, software has been written to display "Press a Key" instead of "Press any key". This is so that if the user can't find the 'any' key, they press the 'a' key instead. Now why doesn't software detect to see if the 'a' key was pressed, and if it is always pressed, it should establish that the user has a low IQ. Now, what would a program do knowing this information...?

  130. Everybody knows... by zloppy303 · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...it's that bar on the keyboard. It has no letter assigned to it, so it can be any key.

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  131. More Compaq stuff by FCKGW · · Score: 1

    Press any key to continue, or any other key to cancel.

    Someone at Compaq also posted the "any key" thing in their user forums.

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  132. uhhh... old news. by the_greywolf · · Score: 1

    i don't know if anyone noticed, but this particular Compaq article was originally posted in October of 2001, and modified again a year later.

    i'm sure someone hadn't seen it yet, but i saw it way back in 2001. :)

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  133. Extremely Old News by instinctdesign · · Score: 1

    Oh for goodness sake... this has been in my sig for months! And for that matter, its been around for years before that!

    http://www.instinctdesign.com/work/humor/anykey.jp g

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  134. for dummies by chribo · · Score: 1

    Last week I tested SuSE Linux for AMD64.

    Yast (the installation program) just said:

    "Please press a key to reboot".

    (it also works pressing b ....)

    Honi soit qui mal y pense.

  135. Fat Al Error by wrenhunt · · Score: 1

    I got a call once from a guy who said: "Hey! I just got a Fat Al error". I scratched my head, having never heard of a "Fat Al" error and asked him to spell it. He replied "F-A-T-A-L". How he got Fat Al out of fatal I've never quite figured out...

  136. Re:Huh? [MOD PARENT UNFUNNY] by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Look, this truly is a horrible post. Do you really think it is funny? Mod it down.

  137. As long as.. by MasTRE · · Score: 1

    > The term "any key" does not refer to a particular key on the keyboard. It simply means to strike any one of the keys on your keyboard or handheld screen.

    As long as that key is not Ctrl, Caps Lock, Alt, and Shift..! The FAQ is wrong! Baaaaah!

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  138. Re:It's not funny. Don't laugh. by Uerige · · Score: 1

    Today it is not only "nowhere near funny", but also, it's become pointless because there is no single piece of software out there that still asks this stupid question. Evolution?

  139. Re:Huh? [MOD PARENT UNFUNNY] by tulare · · Score: 1

    We're sorry, but you seem to suffer from terminal crabinitis. Please temporarily restrict yourself from posting until you've looked under the couch or wherever it is and found your currently-missing sense of humor.

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  140. Commodore +4 by pommiekiwifruit · · Score: 1

    Didn't that have keys on it to wordprocess etc.?

  141. A matter for the English teacher - a scary thought by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 1


    "Consider the person of average intelligence. Now consider that half of them are even more stupid than that" - (slightly misquoted - if anyone knows who said this please feed back)

    Computers are becoming more and more ubiquitous. and it is now very common to find them in homes populated by the people referred to in the above quote (which may be slightly misquoted.) I therefore find it unsurprising that this question is in the FAQ and it is probably no joke at all. However, they blew the answer completely. It should read:

    "Consider enrolling in an English course. If we were trying to tell you that there is a key known as the any key we would have written 'Press the any key' rather than 'Press any key'."

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    Guns don't kill people; Physics kills people! - John Lithgow as Dick Solomon on Third Rock From The Sun
  142. There are real calls on this... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Having sat Win95 support for MS on opening day, I've had a bit of experience with this. Actually had a person call, very serious, ask about the 'any key'. Worst part - I had to find a way to tell her without insulting here in the process.

    If that isn't bad enough - I've had both a Tech and a User on the phone spend 20 minutes telling me about how they had tried to save a file to a floppy, and it was obviously an OS problem. The error message? "Not enough disk space". They had apparently spoken to office support before me, formatted multiple floppies and saved other files to them, saved the file to the hard drive (successfully). The two of them together had spent well over an hour and NEVER CHECKED THE FILE SIZE as saved on the hard drive. I had to mute the phone when I finally convinced him to check and the file was ~2MB, and for once in my life almost fell off the chair laughing.

    I can say that shit like this happens to everyone, no matter how tech savvy they are. I've taken calls from the clueless and the ones who scared me with their knowledge. Sometimes, the obvious just slips by.

    Reality is often funnier than fiction.

  143. Know what? by rjamestaylor · · Score: 1
    • That's what.

    The preceeding joke told by all four year olds is matched only in insipid banality by reference to the "Any Key" joke.

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    -- @rjamestaylor on Ello
  144. Any key? Really? by kavau · · Score: 1
    From the Compaq FAQ: The term "any key" does not refer to a particular key on the keyboard. It simply means to strike any one of the keys on your keyboard or handheld screen.

    I see... why has nobody told me this earlier? But there are so many keys here, it's confusing! Let's just start on the lower left... with the key that says 'Ctrl'... hmm.. nothing happens. Maybe the key with the funky grid symbol on it; probably a Chinese letter, this stuff is all 'made in China' anyways... nothing. The 'Alt' key... nothing! Well, we've tried enough keys on the keyboard already, and none of them seems to work. Let's look somewhere else... maybe this funny icon with the key symbol on my monitor screen? No, nothing, except that my screen is now full of finger prints... Aha! My computer case has a lock, and the key's still in there! Maybe they are talking about this key! Should have thought of it earlier... no, nothing happens. But wait... there are two buttons here... a circle with a minus sign sticking out of it, I wonder what that means... again, no effect. Maybe I have to press and hold the key down... let's try that with this circle-and-minus -sign key... hey! Why has my screen gone blank? Tech support!!! HELP!!!!

  145. Note this part in the help file by c0rruptc0d3 · · Score: 1

    "The term "any key" does not refer to a particular key on the keyboard. It simply means to ***STRIKE*** any one of the keys on your keyboard or handheld screen." How many of you would bet Compaq/Hp Customer Support will be flooded with calls and email from users who have struck any key so hard they broke it.....Aren't Compaq users the original how do I fix the coffee cup holder in my pc people?

    1. Re:Note this part in the help file by grwufwuf · · Score: 1
      "I struck a key once, twice, three times, and still it didn't work. So then I went to the garage to get a hammer, to more accurately follow the instructions, and... "

      I'd just love to hear that call in progress and what comes next ("But your instructions told me to! I want a new keyboard for free. Also the coffee cup holder doesn't keep my coffe warm. I need a new one, I think.")

      Nothing intended against Compaq users. "Coffee cup" poeple have probably gone through more than one selection of hardware vendors learning not to use the CDROM that way anyhow :)

  146. My CD drive... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...can hold the standard 5" CDs, as well as the small 2" CDs.

    So, HA!

  147. [OT] Lowest Common Denominator by jrockway · · Score: 1

    Isn't the lowest common denominator always 1 and therefore pretty useless mathematically? I think the greatest common denominator is what people mean to say. Something that all numbers (people, etc.) have in common. So I guess that we should say that M$ users are, taken as a set, relatively prime. Interesting....

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    1. Re:[OT] Lowest Common Denominator by Clubber+Lang · · Score: 1

      sn't the lowest common denominator always 1 and therefore pretty useless mathematically? I think the greatest common denominator is what people mean to say. Something that all numbers (people, etc.) have in common. So I guess that we should say that M$ users are, taken as a set, relatively prime. Interesting....

      Methinks you mean divisor, not denominator.... They're quite different. Besides... even when you're talking about LCD (divisor) it's understood that you mean "where LCD > 1", smartass ;)

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  148. don't laugh too much by jr87 · · Score: 1

    I have gotten this question before, and some very smart people asked it too. Mainly it is something that kind of slipps out the first time someone uses a computer because they feel intimidated by them.

  149. Any key? Not if you do it right by B.D.Mills · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I had a simple solution to the "Any" key problem that worked a treat. Instead of messages like

    "Press any key to continue"

    I reworded the message slightly in some of my applications:

    "Press a key to continue"

    It works great. The experienced users know what to do, and the users who can't find the "any" key will have more success when they try to find the "a" key.

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    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. - Edmund Burke
  150. Re:Huh? [MOD PARENT UNFUNNY] by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well *I* think it's funny. Besides, I also have a cat, and can definitely sympathize. My cat has helped me with my computer many times in the paaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaajhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh4wt5l.jjjjm mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

  151. Re:Don't confuse stupid with unfamiIiar by Retief-CDT · · Score: 0

    Did you think to open the hood and look for spark plugs???

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  152. How about this? by scaryfish · · Score: 0, Redundant
    "Press a key"

    That way we know to press any key, but those who get confused by this sort of thing will just press the 'a' key. Problem solved!

  153. BOFH English lesson by dnoyeb · · Score: 1

    One could be pedantic and suggest the user learn the use of the definite article.

    I agree though that its needed. Often working with Linux people forget simple things in their explanations because they think its obvious when its not.

  154. SLASHDOT PLAGIARIZES!!! by Will2k_is_here · · Score: 1

    Old news. I posted that link a while ago!!!

    Now I know how SCO feels...

    Wait a minute...Linux counter-sues...McBride with the Devil Horns...Code debunkers...Those online satires!!! Oh my God, the Opensource community was right!!!

  155. have you ever taken a technical support call?? by animal+mother · · Score: 1

    I used to work for Earthlink and this a way too often joke heard from other technical support folks. We would always have people call us and ask where it is or in the course of helping them something would come up about "hitting the 'any key'" and they would ask where it was. There are some real morons out there that take your word and trust you wayyy too much just because you know more about computers than they do.

  156. Cathode or Catheter? by swankypimp · · Score: 2, Funny
    I work tech support at an Internet retailer, and we sell a lot of systems with plexiglass windows and case lights. One product we sell a lot of is a "Blue Cold Cathode Light." A few weeks ago I got a call by someone whose case light had burned out after a month of use and wanted a replacement.

    The funny part? He had a slight pronunciation problem and kept referring to it as a "Catheter" Light.

    "I've had this machine for only a month, and my cather stopped working."

    "Excuse me?"

    "My blue catheter light. My cold catheter. It burned out."

    "Um, err, yeah... Let me transfer you to the RMA department. Hopefully they can relieve the extreme discomfort you must be experiencing."

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  157. i have to wonder by rwven · · Score: 1

    why instead of saying "press any key" didnt they just say "press space bar" or "press enter/return" i mean it's still "any" key...

  158. Does it need oil? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I was doing tech support for a major PC manufacturer when the guy in the cube next to me mutes his headset and starts laughing his ass off.

    The lady on the other end of the line had just powered on her new system and noticed a drop of oil in the CD tray, and promptly called tech support to ask if the system needed to have its oil changed, and if so, how would you do that.

    I had another call personally where a guy had problems with his monitor, and decided it was a good idea to take the monitor apart, and start poking around with a screwdriver. It was a good thing he called, or he might have killed himself.

    FAQs like this are entirely necessary. Never underestimate the stupidity of your user base.

  159. Not ANY key by aimew · · Score: 1

    The Shift key alone doesn't work, nor does the Alt nor Ctrl keys.

    So 'any key' is any key that works, which is 'most any key'.

    Is that clearer? ;->

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  160. Ahh! There it is! by wattpuppy · · Score: 1
  161. Fat Al Error Test by hplasm · · Score: 1

    "Press to test. Release to detonate."

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    ...and he grinned, like a fox eating shit out of a wire brush.
  162. Nope, harddrive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My users point at the computer and call it hard drive.

    -My PC isn't working, can I come in with the hard drive tomorrow?

    -Yes, but I'd prefer if you take the computer.

    (I end up with the PC, monitor, mouse and keyboard)

  163. Type V by Michael+Hunt · · Score: 1

    The Sun Type 5 keyboard has what I would consider an 'any' key between escape and F1.

    It's a blank key with no writing on it. Time was, you would walk into the computer labs at university and some joker would have scrawled 'any' on this keycap with either a 2H pencil or a permanent marker.

    1. Re:Type V by hesiod · · Score: 1

      > The Sun Type 5 keyboard has what I would consider an 'any' key between escape and F1.
      > It's a blank key with no writing on it.

      My blank key is really wide, and at the bottom of the keyboard :)

  164. Moo by Chacham · · Score: 0

    I bought an Any Key. After some hacking, we replaced the Scroll Lock key with it. It's worth the laugh. :)

  165. HP's crappy site already has this FAQ. by atheken · · Score: 1

    HP with it's terrible support site still managed to answer this question recently... I can't seem to recall what I asked for help on to get the knowledge-base (yeah, right) to spit back a topic like that.. but they did have it, and recently.

  166. Re:Don't confuse stupid with unfamiIiar by hesiod · · Score: 1

    > Did you think to open the hood and look for spark plugs???

    You'd be surprised at how many people don't know that diesel doesn't use them.

  167. eMac by yerricde · · Score: 1

    Croft needs to destroy computer so bad guy doesn't get the results of the stuff he was running...so she starts shooting monitors.

    One word: eMac. The computer and the display are in the same case. Or, as tomstdenis pointed out, tablet PCs have the monitor right in front of the computer.

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  168. Co-worker responses. by Lester67 · · Score: 1

    I sent this link around to a few co-workers, which led them to respond with a few "oh yeah? Check this out!"

    It amazes me our company makes any money. (We develop software.)

    "The best one we've seen a couple times is when we ask someone to look for something on their desktop.
    'I put an executable on your desktop, use that.'
    'Only thing on my desktop is my phone and a legal pad"

    "This reminds me of the call I had once... the person assured me she had rebooted her PC 3 times. I asked her to reboot once more... in about 2 seconds, she says "ok, its back up". I ask "which computer did you reboot?". She responded "the one sitting on my desk that I look at". I asked her: "what about the box sitting on the floor?". She said "Oh, I never use that one"."

    "I had one last week; where I asked the local office admin to please reboot a desktop for me over in building T. She was unable to reboot the machine. Turns out she had mistaken a portable fan under the desk for a CPU..."

  169. The proper message by alexo · · Score: 1

    > The proper message is "Press a key to continue" because the worst they will do is press "a"

    No, no, no. The proper message should be:

    "Press any key to continue or any other key to abort"

    See, no more confusion!

  170. There is an "ANY" key... by cr0sh · · Score: 1
    Except you don't see it anymore - dig up some old copies of Byte magazine (pre-1985?), and look for ADDS ViewPoint terminal reviews/adverts/etc - if you have ever seen one of the older models, there does exist on the keyboard a real "ANY" key. I don't know or remember what it was used for (waaay before my time), but such things did, at one time, exist.

    I think the thing that saddens me is that with all the computer geeks here on /., nobody seems to remember the history of that which they love (at least, I didn't find a mention about this in the first few top pages of comments)...

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