Re:Argue if you must..IDC reports show Cringely ri
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The Faded Sun
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· Score: 1
Basically, even if Sun made crap from tomorrow forward and everyone
wanted to use something else, there is a certain amount of inertia
associated with large infrastructures changing platforms. Legacy
software, legacy hardware, retraining staff - how long have we heard
the mainframe is dead? Well, my sister programs COBOL and JCL in a
mainframe environment 8 hours a day, 5 days a week. And we know Sun
doesn't make crap...
What I am seeing, _even_ in the large conservative banks, is Sun losing
the bottom end to Linux. Though only to services which are redundant in
nature like DNS, HTTP, proxies, these are falling way to RedHat boxes of
various hardware manufacturers like Dell and Compaq. This is why we
now see Sun releasing new servers like the LX50, V100, V120, and the new
blades. They want to be the single supplier and prevent anyone else
getting their feet in their client's door.
No, I disagree. In my opinion, the large Sun sites, i.e. telecoms,
banks, etc., these companies will be upgrading their systems to newer
Sun kit when the budgets allow.
Re:Argue if you must..IDC reports show Cringely ri
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The Faded Sun
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· Score: 2, Interesting
What the numbers don't show. I've seen a few companies here in Europe
who were big Sun buyers before the market went boom. These companies
were buying a lot of kit based on expected growth. The market dried up,
and it turns out they are left with surplus hardware. Now, everyone has
tight budgets and they are cannibalizing their kit to keep running. I
expect when the I.T. heads get their budgets back there will be a lot of
upgrading of those US-II systems. Maybe... let's hope so anyway.
Sorry, I disagree with your representation of Solaris and your recommendations to make it better. Personally, I like Solaris the way it is. If anything I would argue that more is less. For me, Solaris is a server OS, sure if you want GUI's and somewhere to play your MP3's then use Linux as your workstation. Or download all the bits you want from Sunfreeware.COM and put them on your JumpStart server. No sweat.
Regarding documentation, I find all the sources for Solaris excellent: man pages, docs.sun.com, and nothing but nothing tops SunSolve.
Regarding junior admins, everything seems hard when you are a junior. My advice is to shadow your seniors, and I'm sure you'll find not one of them uses admintool, or any other GUI for that matter for administering their servers and services.
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Basically, even if Sun made crap from tomorrow forward and everyone wanted to use something else, there is a certain amount of inertia associated with large infrastructures changing platforms. Legacy software, legacy hardware, retraining staff - how long have we heard the mainframe is dead? Well, my sister programs COBOL and JCL in a mainframe environment 8 hours a day, 5 days a week. And we know Sun doesn't make crap ...
What I am seeing, _even_ in the large conservative banks, is Sun losing
the bottom end to Linux. Though only to services which are redundant in
nature like DNS, HTTP, proxies, these are falling way to RedHat boxes of
various hardware manufacturers like Dell and Compaq. This is why we
now see Sun releasing new servers like the LX50, V100, V120, and the new
blades. They want to be the single supplier and prevent anyone else
getting their feet in their client's door.
No, I disagree. In my opinion, the large Sun sites, i.e. telecoms,
banks, etc., these companies will be upgrading their systems to newer
Sun kit when the budgets allow.
What the numbers don't show. I've seen a few companies here in Europe who were big Sun buyers before the market went boom. These companies were buying a lot of kit based on expected growth. The market dried up, and it turns out they are left with surplus hardware. Now, everyone has tight budgets and they are cannibalizing their kit to keep running. I expect when the I.T. heads get their budgets back there will be a lot of upgrading of those US-II systems. Maybe ... let's hope so anyway.
Sorry, I disagree with your representation of Solaris and your
recommendations to make it better. Personally, I like Solaris the way it
is. If anything I would argue that more is less. For me, Solaris is a
server OS, sure if you want GUI's and somewhere to play your MP3's then
use Linux as your workstation. Or download all the bits you want from
Sunfreeware.COM and put them on your JumpStart server. No sweat.
Regarding documentation, I find all the sources for Solaris excellent:
man pages, docs.sun.com, and nothing but nothing tops SunSolve.
Regarding junior admins, everything seems hard when you are a junior.
My advice is to shadow your seniors, and I'm sure you'll find not one of
them uses admintool, or any other GUI for that matter for
administering their servers and services.
Regards,