..thoughts are thoughts. I don't want to see bad things come to people, either, but I don't know what's good or bad for them; I know only from my perspective.
Here's why I'm bothering to post a comment...
My girlfriend has severe social anxiety (so do I, so pot-kettle). Anyhow, I gave up Facebook years ago because I noticed how people that were former high school friends (good friends) would come back into town from a far-away place they now live. In the case of the one I'm thinking about, they fly all over the world rather randomly because of their career, so visits back "home" aren't frequent. When they would come back into town to visit parents/holiday/etc, they would post about how much they would love to hang with me and catch up on stuff (and can't wait to do it!) I would wonder, then, why that person would be leaving town because vacation time was over, and they didn't bother to make an effort to see me for even 5 minutes. I would look on Facebook and see this long stream of posts about their drinking and hanging with hot girls (pictures included of the drunken embraces and "fun").
Repeat this, like, around 10 times (vacations where they were back in town and expressed great interest in hanging with me, same outcome). I got the picture (no pun intended at all). I noticed that others were maybe interested in seeing me or talking with me, but it was mostly posts about their horrible days at work, stupid prices on things, random thoughts about their relationship that swayed from great to horrible to great to horrible to, cross-links to "funny" things or "statements that warrant a movement"... yeah. I got to seeing before long that I was basically looking at peoples' personal self-imagery they wished to express to the world. Others were calling for sympathy, etc. None of them wanted to leave the screen or phone they were posting from, though, unless it was getting them something to immediately satisfy their wants.
After a while, I deleted the Facebook account and don't miss it in the slightest.
Back to girlfriend. She is socially anxious and doesn't like being in crowds of people. Also doesn't like trying to join in on conversations where she hasn't quite heard 80% of it, so there's not much to say to get involved. She doesn't get welcomed in for conversations because she's not a drama enthusiast (playing into others' drama). However, she is a socially-minded person and wants to be part of groups or admired. She also expresses admiration toward others on Facebook to feel indirectly reverse-rewarded. Here's the kicker; we don't really do much. She spends most of her time off of work on Facebook, scrolling through posts and laughing at the simplest humor that a 5th grader laughs at, and having eyes glaze over as she's looking at others having "fun". This "fun", of course isn't anything but public-facing imagery, but she's living vicariously through these people and mentally becoming part of their lives and activities because she gets to see their forward-facing info and pictures. A friend posting a 100,000th-removed forward/cross post of something that's scary or "bad for you" becomes a huge deal like it's the one person them self warning her of these things and she needs to research them and try to alter her lifestyle to shape around the thing that's ultimately nothing but someone's boredom post of randomly collected information compiled into some big warning or statement about how bad things are *gasp for air*.
I look at myself not giving a damn about other peoples' Facebook lives, but really caring about them when I see them face-to-face or have nice conversations on the phone with them. The conversations we have don't even touch on the crap that's posted on their Facebook account. It's almost like two different people, or like I'm talking to the debugging code or the work going into the code; Facebook gets to see the constantly-changing alpha releases, respectively.
I love life without Facebook. What I don't like is seeing people so caught up in it
We are going the sue GM The STATE The DMV Cruise AV The City of Mission
if you need cash call 888-555-WHIPLASH. That's right, 888-555-WHIPLASH. Our service representatives are standing by and waiting for your call. 888-555-WHIPLASH; CALL NOW!
It matters not what MS says, for they are a very interested party. I.e. anything they say in this respect must be taken with a very healthy dose of skepticism. What does the independent evidence say?
Independent source says that you should purchase the next generation of the product and compare to your current one apples to apples. You'll find that things get better over time, and you should keep purchasing their product to watch it get better.
"Microsoft Spokesperson admitted that there are a small number of devices that have problems, but they get better with every generation. Thus, if you have a problem with your device, you should purchase the next generation of it and be happier than you were before."
If you're being serious, think about physics for a second. The magnetic loops in the areas that might blow again aren't pointed toward us anymore due to rotation and orbiting. I think we're good, man. All good, yo.
My subject is just mass skepticism mixed with a bad science and forecasting model coupled with some sick conspiracy to get people who live in the Northern US to stay up until the wee hours again like we all did in July 2017! This is even more bleak than last time based on their description.
I will say: Why the heck is 'upper tier of the US' and 'areas of the US' even advertised in this article? That's garbage. Upper tier is Minnesota, North and some of South Dakota, Montana and anything else directly east and west of those and certainly not anymore south than Nebraska as best. Did geography change overnight? The only thing I see is Alaska and that's never been considered 'CONUS' last time I knew. I guess when the 'US' is said, I think CONUS --- we all know Hawaii and Alaska are part of the US but outlying.
Man, whoever is writing this Aurora news lately really wants to make a story out of it.
I don't know why they write this shit, like all of us can observe it the same as the people who live out in the middle of nowhere in said areas with 30-second-exposure cameras with light amplification.
Either way this is supposed to be solar minimum...
Humans have had such an impact with global warming and stuff that things like this happen. Look at the solar minimum releasing more radiation than expected... Damn Humans for making these things happen!
"Oh, nos! It's happening again! I'll lose productivity at work because of failures in all of my electronic equipment. My car won't start. I feel cancer developing in my brain right now. I can't use my oven at home!
The fact that I'm watching movies at work over my wireless provider connection is different because that isn't affected for some reason... and my air conditioning somehow still works. The fridge is fine. Those I can't explain, but everything else in my life is torn apart!!!
*posts to Facebook*"
I'm sorry, I had to. It's happened and I have to bring it to light. Ha. Light.
Every time I heard/read warnings of solar storms and their effects in the end it was kind of a non-event.
Apparently, you don't get your internet access wirelessly. I have connection problems during pretty much every major solar storm, indeed far more than I do during regular storms.
You might want to re-analyze your data or look at the outside connection being the culprit. Your wireless doesn't operate in a band affected by geomagnetic storms that aren't severe enough to destroy the power grid. Only HF bands are affected and it's predictable and repetitive. Anyone who listens to WWV on 2.5-5MHz can experience it, but only barely, and even that's not as bad as lower bands. Your wireless operates on a MUUUUCCCHHH higher 2400MHz or 5000-5800MHz. The wavelength is much shorter, has less transmission-point-to-receive point distance ALWAYS, and isn't affected by interference unless the interference is intentionally generated at those specific frequencies to overpower the interleaves between waves. Geomagnetic events are low-wave and affect the properties of the atmosphere when it comes to long-distance low-band HF transmission reception (the signals don't carry as well or bounce as efficiently). It doesn't make the signals go away if you're line-of-sight from the transmission point to receive point. Your wireless penetrates walls and other barriers (aside from metal enclosures like metal buildings or the inside of older cars). "Wireless" internet from a provider depends on provider, but the lowest transmission signal in operation I'm aware of at this point is the upper portion of the 600MHz range (like 690-area). It isn't affected, either.
First off, what in the hell would Symantec AV stuff be doing on infrastructure-critical machines that can affect said infrastructure (versus just looking at data points)? Secondly, this isn't something that would be announced by a company unless it was trying to sell a product. They would responsibly notify the infrastructure officials and have them take control of the situation, IF IT EXISTED.
This reeks of a ploy to induce fear and sell their amazing product that cane "detect things like this" magically. What complete bullshit. We know hackers, anyway. They would have started fucking with things to make sure they actually had control by now. I haven't heard of any fuckings-with-of-components. I see the voltage and frequency of the incoming mains varying as predicted and as applicable every day. A little 30-dollar device can show you that. Basically, it ain't happening and this is Facebook-like/Twitter-like bullshit that I can't believe people are buying into. If Symantec is releasing this information, they should be cut up and destroyed immediately.
Fake/dupe accounts, fake DOBs. Used for spying on people, and used for older people to "be younger". They're pulling from their data stock, not from real data. Of course it's wrong.
One potential flaw in this mechanism: I think a malware image can prevent rolling back to a known-good image by setting the rollback indexes to ridiculously high value, say 2147483647 (2**31-1).
This diagram shows how the workflow is supposed to proceed. If Mallory gets her verification key onto your device (either by social engineering or another flaw), then her custom malware image can be booted by the device in locked mode. The user will get a warning about this being a custom OS (good!), but then the rollback index values in Mallory's image are written to the stored rollback index values (bad!). If I then attempt to go back to Oreo 8.0, it won't let me.
A better mechanism would be to have a set of stored rollback index values per verification key, not a global set per device. Then I could roll back to the stock factory image from a Mallory's malware image.
Good info, thanks!
I'm being humorous, but truthful. This feels like "Ad non-view punishment". If a ad-blocker is installed, you can get those nice "ads pay for our site; you can't view unless you see the ads" on a desktop OS. This seems like a "if you have a custom installed OS, you get to wait 10 seconds as a time-out".
I know it's not the same, but it just seems to match. A user who installs a custom ROM on an unlocked phone should have to see the warning, at most, 1 time. To see it every time is a form of coercing the user into going back to the main or losing ADHD valuable time if user doesn't wanna.
If you're buying an Android device used, you want to know whether the previous owner hasn't installed malware that persists across an apparent factory reset. Popping up a "This device runs a custom operating system" notice while the bootloader is loading the kernel is an unobtrusive way of doing this.
If you're buying an Android device, and you watch movies, you want a wide selection of movies. Google can do one of two things. It can keep its license from major movie and television studios to offer their works through Google Play by continuing to improve the digital restrictions management that deters copying a rented stream. Or it can lose its license and pull the works from Google Play, and end users will end up having to buy an iPod touch, iPhone, or iPad in order to continue to watch notable movies and television series once the licensed apps become iOS-exclusive.
I'm sorry to throw this in, but I don't "get" the "new" generation. If I want to watch a movie, I have a device at home that puts it on a large screen for me to sit on this thing called a "couch" and watch. The "need" to have a way to watch mobile-accessible versions of shows/movies/etc is scary. I also say this because I work at a place where productivity falls in departments under the top-level one (top-level department, that is) because people watch movies and shows at work. Their work contains errors from distraction and they seem overwhelmed with too much work with very little work actually being performed.
Ban the devices. Well, we did. People left and others hid the fact they were doing it but their "symptoms" persisted and they were eventually confronted. Only 10%, LITERALLY 10% stopped and wanted to keep their job. Their performance increased. The other 90% left or (at least two people) were fired because what they were being paid was more than what they were producing. We were basically paying them to entertain themselves at work.
The ban was lifted because attrition and in-company mass planning to reduce productivity "won". Now people are individually canned if their production is lower than the lowest (reminds me of school grading curves). To be more to the point of "I don't get people" is that most all of them have headphones/headsets and listen to music all day. They need background noise or something. I don't get it. They have been found to type words from their songs into what they're working on; again, no joke. I (37yo), don't find it difficult to have the noise of other people, machines, HVAC, etc from serving as my "background noise". It actually helps me concentrate on topics more. I've tried listening to music with headphones, and it helps lock me into one task, but it reduces my performance by an estimated 70%.
I don't get it. Having said that and being a psychological "master-reader", I never will get it. It's a generational thing.
It also prevents legitimate users that might need to rollback due to a bug or feature that affects them badly in a new build from rolling back. Really this should be a completely optional check that is user settable as a rollback can be critical. I have had to rollback twice in recent years due to breaking changes and why is it unreasonable to want to be able to use the last known good build from the manufacturer as I don't want to root m phone or put on custom roms.
I hear ya, but hear me out... I doubt this is the reasoning. The "Why" is: Google isn't stupid... Are they? Assuming they aren't stupid and wanting to be a center point of attention for a massive security breach of "all users of Android Oreo" (or something of that ilk), this hits a brick wall. The logic, their logic, that is. If a new release comes out and several weeks later after most (meaning a lot) of the users have upgraded their devices, an exploit gets found where any device running the OS can be compromised; this leaves all of the users in a state of danger until Google finds a way to release a fix for all vendors running that version. The users can't take the device somewhere and have it downgraded to prevent the exploit from being available until Google releases "their fix".
This is essentially sounding like a Windows 10 mock behavior. "We take control" is good if you're an idiot, but it's also really bad if you're an idiot OR smart and the controller creates a dangerous situation for your finances (to be blunt). Yes, I'm aware you can unlock the bootloader/etc, but that's for the current power users set. The end idiot/smart (but non-power) users succumb to Google's authority. This isn't news. What's new is the inability to have an instructional new-release or friend method of getting around the problem.
The best method for attacks now is to have the malicious code execute and do its bidding. When the device is rebooted for anything, I mean anything, any reason at all, that boot will cause the device to be corrupted/wiped. That's what I'd do if I were a malware producer. That way the choice of the end user is to "leave the device alone and let the malware do its malwaring, or power it off and lose everything if [I] power it back on."
Screw ransomware's encryption stuff. Put a dent in the economy by disabling peoples' mass connectivity methods they're used to. Sure, workarounds will be found (find a phone on a desk and call using it, check your stock shit on some computer at your desk at work or home, post your pictures/videos of every element of your life using a stand-alone camera and desktop computer to your FB/Twitter/etc account, etc etc). It's not that we won't survive, it's that people will lose their way, and when many people lose their way, mass hysteria sets in.
Anyhow, I'm not typing all of this to come up with doomsday scenarios. It's just real - doing something like this locks a person in to using something that can be found to be bad, and have them locked into a bad place until a way out of that bad place is found and pushed on them. That or most everyone needs to learn how to unlock bootloaders, back up data, install an Android custom OS, restore data elements, and be fluid with back and forward software down/upgrades, you know, a power user. Just the ridiculousness of that past sentence makes it clear that it ain't'a'gonna happen.
Only people set in their ways or people who want to "subvert the dominant paradigm" but aren't smart enough to load an operating system.. use Apple. Is that better or worse?;)
How is Pandora #10 on the list, when I keep reading about how Pandora is struggling against competition from Apple and Spotify?
I don't trust any "list". People (companies) pay people (companies) to create "lists" that skew peoples' thoughts and curiosities toward a desired target. Of course, there are a lot of misses or not-interested people, but most will try our things out of curiosity that are the same or different to prove or disprove (to themself) the veracity of "list" truthfulness. Basically, when I see "The ten most", "The Top 100", etc, I just tune [it] out. I haven't gotten anything but slanted junk from such "lists".
..thoughts are thoughts. I don't want to see bad things come to people, either, but I don't know what's good or bad for them; I know only from my perspective.
Here's why I'm bothering to post a comment...
My girlfriend has severe social anxiety (so do I, so pot-kettle). Anyhow, I gave up Facebook years ago because I noticed how people that were former high school friends (good friends) would come back into town from a far-away place they now live. In the case of the one I'm thinking about, they fly all over the world rather randomly because of their career, so visits back "home" aren't frequent. When they would come back into town to visit parents/holiday/etc, they would post about how much they would love to hang with me and catch up on stuff (and can't wait to do it!) I would wonder, then, why that person would be leaving town because vacation time was over, and they didn't bother to make an effort to see me for even 5 minutes. I would look on Facebook and see this long stream of posts about their drinking and hanging with hot girls (pictures included of the drunken embraces and "fun").
Repeat this, like, around 10 times (vacations where they were back in town and expressed great interest in hanging with me, same outcome). I got the picture (no pun intended at all). I noticed that others were maybe interested in seeing me or talking with me, but it was mostly posts about their horrible days at work, stupid prices on things, random thoughts about their relationship that swayed from great to horrible to great to horrible to, cross-links to "funny" things or "statements that warrant a movement"... yeah. I got to seeing before long that I was basically looking at peoples' personal self-imagery they wished to express to the world. Others were calling for sympathy, etc. None of them wanted to leave the screen or phone they were posting from, though, unless it was getting them something to immediately satisfy their wants.
After a while, I deleted the Facebook account and don't miss it in the slightest.
Back to girlfriend. She is socially anxious and doesn't like being in crowds of people. Also doesn't like trying to join in on conversations where she hasn't quite heard 80% of it, so there's not much to say to get involved. She doesn't get welcomed in for conversations because she's not a drama enthusiast (playing into others' drama). However, she is a socially-minded person and wants to be part of groups or admired. She also expresses admiration toward others on Facebook to feel indirectly reverse-rewarded. Here's the kicker; we don't really do much. She spends most of her time off of work on Facebook, scrolling through posts and laughing at the simplest humor that a 5th grader laughs at, and having eyes glaze over as she's looking at others having "fun". This "fun", of course isn't anything but public-facing imagery, but she's living vicariously through these people and mentally becoming part of their lives and activities because she gets to see their forward-facing info and pictures. A friend posting a 100,000th-removed forward/cross post of something that's scary or "bad for you" becomes a huge deal like it's the one person them self warning her of these things and she needs to research them and try to alter her lifestyle to shape around the thing that's ultimately nothing but someone's boredom post of randomly collected information compiled into some big warning or statement about how bad things are *gasp for air*.
I look at myself not giving a damn about other peoples' Facebook lives, but really caring about them when I see them face-to-face or have nice conversations on the phone with them. The conversations we have don't even touch on the crap that's posted on their Facebook account. It's almost like two different people, or like I'm talking to the debugging code or the work going into the code; Facebook gets to see the constantly-changing alpha releases, respectively.
I love life without Facebook. What I don't like is seeing people so caught up in it
How's your battery life doin' now? ;)
We are going the sue
GM
The STATE
The DMV
Cruise AV
The City of Mission
if you need cash call 888-555-WHIPLASH. That's right, 888-555-WHIPLASH. Our service representatives are standing by and waiting for your call. 888-555-WHIPLASH; CALL NOW!
Tidied that up for you just a tad. :)
The Mission must be somewhere in Russia. ZING!
Something is up with your formatting, dude.
Thanks for pointing that out. It was set to Extrans for one comment and not set back. Appreciate you telling me!
<quote><p>Of course nothing will ever come out of these lawsuits other than the lawyers getting richer.</p></quote>
<p>Shut up! We're all going to get free replacement i5s and i7s with the bug fixed! I want to believe!</p></quote>
Can I have some of the substance that inspired that belief? I want it!!!
Time to bust out my 486!
:)
Let's see.. it's the 17th today. Has it finished booting yet?
Had to. Just had to.
It matters not what MS says, for they are a very interested party. I.e. anything they say in this respect must be taken with a very healthy dose of skepticism. What does the independent evidence say?
Independent source says that you should purchase the next generation of the product and compare to your current one apples to apples. You'll find that things get better over time, and you should keep purchasing their product to watch it get better.
I'm sorry, I had to. I was paid to say it.
Translated version for the quick readers:
"Microsoft Spokesperson admitted that there are a small number of devices that have problems, but they get better with every generation. Thus, if you have a problem with your device, you should purchase the next generation of it and be happier than you were before."
Is this a joke or are you being serious?
If you're being serious, think about physics for a second. The magnetic loops in the areas that might blow again aren't pointed toward us anymore due to rotation and orbiting. I think we're good, man. All good, yo.
My subject is just mass skepticism mixed with a bad science and forecasting model coupled with some sick conspiracy to get people who live in the Northern US to stay up until the wee hours again like we all did in July 2017! This is even more bleak than last time based on their description.
I will say: Why the heck is 'upper tier of the US' and 'areas of the US' even advertised in this article? That's garbage. Upper tier is Minnesota, North and some of South Dakota, Montana and anything else directly east and west of those and certainly not anymore south than Nebraska as best. Did geography change overnight? The only thing I see is Alaska and that's never been considered 'CONUS' last time I knew. I guess when the 'US' is said, I think CONUS --- we all know Hawaii and Alaska are part of the US but outlying.
Man, whoever is writing this Aurora news lately really wants to make a story out of it.
I don't know why they write this shit, like all of us can observe it the same as the people who live out in the middle of nowhere in said areas with 30-second-exposure cameras with light amplification.
<p>Picturing a Nissan GTR being dragged up from Tokyo harbour.</p></quote>
Thank you. I got the day's necessary healthy laugh from that. You rule!
Hmm, you mean to say Glowbull Worming?
Worming the bright Red Bull? What has it come to these days??
Either way this is supposed to be solar minimum...
Humans have had such an impact with global warming and stuff that things like this happen. Look at the solar minimum releasing more radiation than expected... Damn Humans for making these things happen!
Sorry, had to.
Trump should visit the Sun and push it aside to make it know how great he is.
I think your fingers slipped. I tidied it up a bit for ya. You're welcome.
Here in the Pacific Northwest. I had a thin layer of ash on my car again this morning.
What? I can't hear you!?! You had a light coating of ash on par this morning?? WHA? :)
"Oh, nos! It's happening again! I'll lose productivity at work because of failures in all of my electronic equipment. My car won't start. I feel cancer developing in my brain right now. I can't use my oven at home!
The fact that I'm watching movies at work over my wireless provider connection is different because that isn't affected for some reason... and my air conditioning somehow still works. The fridge is fine. Those I can't explain, but everything else in my life is torn apart!!!
*posts to Facebook*"
I'm sorry, I had to. It's happened and I have to bring it to light. Ha. Light.
Every time I heard/read warnings of solar storms and their effects in the end it was kind of a non-event.
Apparently, you don't get your internet access wirelessly. I have connection problems during pretty much every major solar storm, indeed far more than I do during regular storms.
You might want to re-analyze your data or look at the outside connection being the culprit. Your wireless doesn't operate in a band affected by geomagnetic storms that aren't severe enough to destroy the power grid. Only HF bands are affected and it's predictable and repetitive. Anyone who listens to WWV on 2.5-5MHz can experience it, but only barely, and even that's not as bad as lower bands. Your wireless operates on a MUUUUCCCHHH higher 2400MHz or 5000-5800MHz. The wavelength is much shorter, has less transmission-point-to-receive point distance ALWAYS, and isn't affected by interference unless the interference is intentionally generated at those specific frequencies to overpower the interleaves between waves. Geomagnetic events are low-wave and affect the properties of the atmosphere when it comes to long-distance low-band HF transmission reception (the signals don't carry as well or bounce as efficiently). It doesn't make the signals go away if you're line-of-sight from the transmission point to receive point. Your wireless penetrates walls and other barriers (aside from metal enclosures like metal buildings or the inside of older cars). "Wireless" internet from a provider depends on provider, but the lowest transmission signal in operation I'm aware of at this point is the upper portion of the 600MHz range (like 690-area). It isn't affected, either.
If you were making a joke, I missed it. Sorry.
First off, what in the hell would Symantec AV stuff be doing on infrastructure-critical machines that can affect said infrastructure (versus just looking at data points)? Secondly, this isn't something that would be announced by a company unless it was trying to sell a product. They would responsibly notify the infrastructure officials and have them take control of the situation, IF IT EXISTED.
This reeks of a ploy to induce fear and sell their amazing product that cane "detect things like this" magically. What complete bullshit. We know hackers, anyway. They would have started fucking with things to make sure they actually had control by now. I haven't heard of any fuckings-with-of-components. I see the voltage and frequency of the incoming mains varying as predicted and as applicable every day. A little 30-dollar device can show you that. Basically, it ain't happening and this is Facebook-like/Twitter-like bullshit that I can't believe people are buying into. If Symantec is releasing this information, they should be cut up and destroyed immediately.
Fake/dupe accounts, fake DOBs. Used for spying on people, and used for older people to "be younger". They're pulling from their data stock, not from real data. Of course it's wrong.
One potential flaw in this mechanism: I think a malware image can prevent rolling back to a known-good image by setting the rollback indexes to ridiculously high value, say 2147483647 (2**31-1).
This diagram shows how the workflow is supposed to proceed. If Mallory gets her verification key onto your device (either by social engineering or another flaw), then her custom malware image can be booted by the device in locked mode. The user will get a warning about this being a custom OS (good!), but then the rollback index values in Mallory's image are written to the stored rollback index values (bad!). If I then attempt to go back to Oreo 8.0, it won't let me.
A better mechanism would be to have a set of stored rollback index values per verification key, not a global set per device. Then I could roll back to the stock factory image from a Mallory's malware image.
Good info, thanks!
I'm being humorous, but truthful. This feels like "Ad non-view punishment". If a ad-blocker is installed, you can get those nice "ads pay for our site; you can't view unless you see the ads" on a desktop OS. This seems like a "if you have a custom installed OS, you get to wait 10 seconds as a time-out".
I know it's not the same, but it just seems to match. A user who installs a custom ROM on an unlocked phone should have to see the warning, at most, 1 time. To see it every time is a form of coercing the user into going back to the main or losing ADHD valuable time if user doesn't wanna.
If you're buying an Android device used, you want to know whether the previous owner hasn't installed malware that persists across an apparent factory reset. Popping up a "This device runs a custom operating system" notice while the bootloader is loading the kernel is an unobtrusive way of doing this.
If you're buying an Android device, and you watch movies, you want a wide selection of movies. Google can do one of two things. It can keep its license from major movie and television studios to offer their works through Google Play by continuing to improve the digital restrictions management that deters copying a rented stream. Or it can lose its license and pull the works from Google Play, and end users will end up having to buy an iPod touch, iPhone, or iPad in order to continue to watch notable movies and television series once the licensed apps become iOS-exclusive.
I'm sorry to throw this in, but I don't "get" the "new" generation. If I want to watch a movie, I have a device at home that puts it on a large screen for me to sit on this thing called a "couch" and watch. The "need" to have a way to watch mobile-accessible versions of shows/movies/etc is scary. I also say this because I work at a place where productivity falls in departments under the top-level one (top-level department, that is) because people watch movies and shows at work. Their work contains errors from distraction and they seem overwhelmed with too much work with very little work actually being performed.
Ban the devices. Well, we did. People left and others hid the fact they were doing it but their "symptoms" persisted and they were eventually confronted. Only 10%, LITERALLY 10% stopped and wanted to keep their job. Their performance increased. The other 90% left or (at least two people) were fired because what they were being paid was more than what they were producing. We were basically paying them to entertain themselves at work.
The ban was lifted because attrition and in-company mass planning to reduce productivity "won". Now people are individually canned if their production is lower than the lowest (reminds me of school grading curves). To be more to the point of "I don't get people" is that most all of them have headphones/headsets and listen to music all day. They need background noise or something. I don't get it. They have been found to type words from their songs into what they're working on; again, no joke. I (37yo), don't find it difficult to have the noise of other people, machines, HVAC, etc from serving as my "background noise". It actually helps me concentrate on topics more. I've tried listening to music with headphones, and it helps lock me into one task, but it reduces my performance by an estimated 70%.
I don't get it. Having said that and being a psychological "master-reader", I never will get it. It's a generational thing.
It also prevents legitimate users that might need to rollback due to a bug or feature that affects them badly in a new build from rolling back. Really this should be a completely optional check that is user settable as a rollback can be critical. I have had to rollback twice in recent years due to breaking changes and why is it unreasonable to want to be able to use the last known good build from the manufacturer as I don't want to root m phone or put on custom roms.
I hear ya, but hear me out... I doubt this is the reasoning. The "Why" is: Google isn't stupid... Are they? Assuming they aren't stupid and wanting to be a center point of attention for a massive security breach of "all users of Android Oreo" (or something of that ilk), this hits a brick wall. The logic, their logic, that is. If a new release comes out and several weeks later after most (meaning a lot) of the users have upgraded their devices, an exploit gets found where any device running the OS can be compromised; this leaves all of the users in a state of danger until Google finds a way to release a fix for all vendors running that version. The users can't take the device somewhere and have it downgraded to prevent the exploit from being available until Google releases "their fix".
This is essentially sounding like a Windows 10 mock behavior. "We take control" is good if you're an idiot, but it's also really bad if you're an idiot OR smart and the controller creates a dangerous situation for your finances (to be blunt). Yes, I'm aware you can unlock the bootloader/etc, but that's for the current power users set. The end idiot/smart (but non-power) users succumb to Google's authority. This isn't news. What's new is the inability to have an instructional new-release or friend method of getting around the problem.
The best method for attacks now is to have the malicious code execute and do its bidding. When the device is rebooted for anything, I mean anything, any reason at all, that boot will cause the device to be corrupted/wiped. That's what I'd do if I were a malware producer. That way the choice of the end user is to "leave the device alone and let the malware do its malwaring, or power it off and lose everything if [I] power it back on."
Screw ransomware's encryption stuff. Put a dent in the economy by disabling peoples' mass connectivity methods they're used to. Sure, workarounds will be found (find a phone on a desk and call using it, check your stock shit on some computer at your desk at work or home, post your pictures/videos of every element of your life using a stand-alone camera and desktop computer to your FB/Twitter/etc account, etc etc). It's not that we won't survive, it's that people will lose their way, and when many people lose their way, mass hysteria sets in.
Anyhow, I'm not typing all of this to come up with doomsday scenarios. It's just real - doing something like this locks a person in to using something that can be found to be bad, and have them locked into a bad place until a way out of that bad place is found and pushed on them. That or most everyone needs to learn how to unlock bootloaders, back up data, install an Android custom OS, restore data elements, and be fluid with back and forward software down/upgrades, you know, a power user. Just the ridiculousness of that past sentence makes it clear that it ain't'a'gonna happen.
Only aged hipsters use Apple. There. Settled!
Only people set in their ways or people who want to "subvert the dominant paradigm" but aren't smart enough to load an operating system.. use Apple. Is that better or worse? ;)
How is Pandora #10 on the list, when I keep reading about how Pandora is struggling against competition from Apple and Spotify?
I don't trust any "list". People (companies) pay people (companies) to create "lists" that skew peoples' thoughts and curiosities toward a desired target. Of course, there are a lot of misses or not-interested people, but most will try our things out of curiosity that are the same or different to prove or disprove (to themself) the veracity of "list" truthfulness. Basically, when I see "The ten most", "The Top 100", etc, I just tune [it] out. I haven't gotten anything but slanted junk from such "lists".