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A Powerful Solar Storm Is Bringing Hazards and Rare Auroras Our Way (fastcompany.com)

tedlistens shares a report from Fast Company: The Space Weather Prediction Center has upgraded a geomagnetic storm watch for September 6 and 7 to a level only occasionally seen, but scientists say it's nothing to be too alarmed about. They do recommend looking for an unusual display of the aurora -- the northern lights caused by a disturbance of the magnetosphere -- in areas of the U.S. not used to seeing them: "really in the upper tier of the United States," says Robert Rutledge, lead of operations at the center, which is part of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. The storm could pose an "elevated radiation risk to passengers and crew in high-flying aircraft at far north or south latitudes," a NOAA warning says, and intermittently impact high frequency RF communications, which may require some transpolar flight routes to divert to lower geomagnetic latitudes (a shift that would cost the airlines more). There's a slim chance of isolated interfere with high-precision GPS readings, but those issues usually only tend to arise with stronger storms.

The so-called G3 level storm is the result of what's called a coronal mass ejection, where magnetic interactions on the sun launch part of its outer atmosphere of superheated plasma into space. When that burst of radiation gets near earth -- barreling toward us at a million miles per hour, it takes about two days to make the journey -- its magnetic field interacts with Earth's, Rutledge says. Northern U.S. and Canadian residents hoping to catch a glimpse of the aurora will get their best shot on Wednesday night and early Thursday, and the Space Weather Prediction Center posts 30-minute forecasts of the colorful sky phenomenon's intensity.

72 comments

  1. Math Fail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

    "million miles per hour, it takes about two days to make the journey"

    The Sun is about 93 million miles from Earth, that would be 93 hours or 3.8 days

    1. Re:Math Fail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "million miles per hour, it takes about two days to make the journey"

      The Sun is about 93 million miles from Earth, that would be 93 hours or 3.8 days

      Something that starts at 1 million miles per hour near the Sun's surface is going to be going a lot slower by the time it reaches the Earth.

      The Sun has a whole lot of this thing called "gravity".

      Math fail? How's that compare to physics fail?

    2. Re:Math Fail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or your reading comprehension fail? Physics wasn't included in the article, so neither did he use it. He's still right.

    3. Re:Math Fail by djsmiley · · Score: 1

      You all fail.

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    4. Re: Math Fail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Gravity drops off fast. Not likely a concern.

  2. Too close to full Moon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Too close to full Moon. We'd really have to go off the chart to see this in NorCal anyway, right? Also... wild fire smoke. I'll take one peek out the window and go, "yeah, that's moonlight".

    1. Re:Too close to full Moon by fyngyrz · · Score: 1

      This is correct; the moon is full and it'll be up all night in the USA. This will reduce the visibility of any aurora to your eye by interfering with your night vision (your pupils won't dilate enough), and when there's any particulate matter in the air (smoke, as the AC mentions, but also water vapor, etc.) this creates illumination in the atmosphere that further reduces your ability to see anything by creating a "bright sky."

      There are auroras intense enough to get past all of this, but the odds against them are very high.

      Your best bet is a combination of very dry, very clear air and a camera set to high ISO, aimed north. The odds for a human-eye visible aurora are very low this evening because of the above factors.

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  3. DON'T PANIC! by gotan · · Score: 1

    Every time I heard/read warnings of solar storms and their effects in the end it was kind of a non-event.

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    1. Re:DON'T PANIC! by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Every time I heard/read warnings of solar storms and their effects in the end it was kind of a non-event.

      Apparently, you don't get your internet access wirelessly. I have connection problems during pretty much every major solar storm, indeed far more than I do during regular storms.

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    2. Re:DON'T PANIC! by Big+Hairy+Ian · · Score: 1

      Just because Satellite & Power Grid outages only happen occasionally doesn't mean they wont

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    3. Re:DON'T PANIC! by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 3, Interesting
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    4. Re:DON'T PANIC! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ur mom isn't a non-event.

    5. Re:DON'T PANIC! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My power was out for 25 mins today it has begun, oh the humanity ah and this is caused by your sin not mine of course because i am reporting it.

    6. Re:DON'T PANIC! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Works on my mach

    7. Re:DON'T PANIC! by poofmeisterp · · Score: 1

      Every time I heard/read warnings of solar storms and their effects in the end it was kind of a non-event.

      Apparently, you don't get your internet access wirelessly. I have connection problems during pretty much every major solar storm, indeed far more than I do during regular storms.

      You might want to re-analyze your data or look at the outside connection being the culprit. Your wireless doesn't operate in a band affected by geomagnetic storms that aren't severe enough to destroy the power grid. Only HF bands are affected and it's predictable and repetitive. Anyone who listens to WWV on 2.5-5MHz can experience it, but only barely, and even that's not as bad as lower bands. Your wireless operates on a MUUUUCCCHHH higher 2400MHz or 5000-5800MHz. The wavelength is much shorter, has less transmission-point-to-receive point distance ALWAYS, and isn't affected by interference unless the interference is intentionally generated at those specific frequencies to overpower the interleaves between waves. Geomagnetic events are low-wave and affect the properties of the atmosphere when it comes to long-distance low-band HF transmission reception (the signals don't carry as well or bounce as efficiently). It doesn't make the signals go away if you're line-of-sight from the transmission point to receive point. Your wireless penetrates walls and other barriers (aside from metal enclosures like metal buildings or the inside of older cars). "Wireless" internet from a provider depends on provider, but the lowest transmission signal in operation I'm aware of at this point is the upper portion of the 600MHz range (like 690-area). It isn't affected, either.

      If you were making a joke, I missed it. Sorry.

    8. Re:DON'T PANIC! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just because Satellite & Power Grid outages only happen occasionally doesn't mean they wont

      I should get to the store and buy everything to survive for years, right? Here's the curse: if I do, nothing will happen. If I don't, the next major power grid failure will happen and it won't be restored for 2 years.

  4. Let's see. . . in the past month, we've had. . . . by Salgak1 · · Score: 4, Funny

    . . . two major hurricanes, Lil' Kim threatening to deliver "gift packages", domestic unrest to the point of rioting in some places, and now this.

    I halfway expect Godzilla to emerge from Tokyo Bay, at this rate (grin)

  5. Why don't they just say 'Alaska'? by Baron_Yam · · Score: 1

    Because as best I can tell from the linked prediction animation, you need to be in Alaska to have a hope of seeing this, because all the other states are at least 4 degrees too far south.

    And Canada doesn't have a hell of a lot of people living north of James Bay, either.

    1. Re:Why don't they just say 'Alaska'? by swb · · Score: 2

      The predictions are 30 minutes forecasts, so its likely the storm hasn't hit the L1 point used for generating the 30 minute predictions yet. The animation is the last couple of days, not a projection.

    2. Re:Why don't they just say 'Alaska'? by Baron_Yam · · Score: 1

      1. Thank you.

      2. I should comically smack myself in the forehead while saying "Do'h!" for missing that.

    3. Re:Why don't they just say 'Alaska'? by Baron_Yam · · Score: 5, Informative

      OK, so I found the experimental 3 day forecast:

      http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/produ...

      It looks like I might have actually seen something... if my region wasn't also predicted to be blanketed with rain clouds and the occasional thunderstorm through to the weekend. :(

    4. Re:Why don't they just say 'Alaska'? by Drethon · · Score: 1

      In July the Auroras were visible as far south as Colorado I believe so it is possible for quite a bit of the US to see Auroras. Though an event like that doesn't come along very often but there is a chance any major Aurora event could appear further south than usual.

  6. Re:Let's see. . . in the past month, we've had. . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah so what? Sounds to me like the 60s and 70s again. Plenty of that shit went on back then too.

    Time for snowflakes to grow up and realize the rest of the world, and hurricanes, don't care about you.

  7. Re:Let's see. . . in the past month, we've had. . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    . . . two major hurricanes, Lil' Kim threatening to deliver "gift packages", domestic unrest to the point of rioting in some places, and now this.

    I halfway expect Godzilla to emerge from Tokyo Bay, at this rate (grin)

    Yeah, global warming caused all that.

    Global warming also caused no hurricanes to hit the US for over a decade.

    Global warming - the shibboleth of the anti-Western "progressive" who for some reason WANTS humanity to be harming the globe. I guess it's just another channel for childish virtue-signalling.

  8. Light pollution by DrYak · · Score: 1

    You'd also need to be away from big settlement so the light pollution doesn't completely over flood the auroras.

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    1. Re: Light pollution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The full moon will provide plenty of light pollution.

  9. Re:Let's see. . . in the past month, we've had. . by Salgak1 · · Score: 1

    hmm. Never mentioned Globull Wormening. Just noting that it's gotten unusually wierd out there, lately. . . .

  10. All Forecasting Rubbish... kind of by adosch · · Score: 1

    My subject is just mass skepticism mixed with a bad science and forecasting model coupled with some sick conspiracy to get people who live in the Northern US to stay up until the wee hours again like we all did in July 2017! This is even more bleak than last time based on their description.

    I will say: Why the heck is 'upper tier of the US' and 'areas of the US' even advertised in this article? That's garbage. Upper tier is Minnesota, North and some of South Dakota, Montana and anything else directly east and west of those and certainly not anymore south than Nebraska as best. Did geography change overnight? The only thing I see is Alaska and that's never been considered 'CONUS' last time I knew. I guess when the 'US' is said, I think CONUS --- we all know Hawaii and Alaska are part of the US but outlying.

    Man, whoever is writing this Aurora news lately really wants to make a story out of it.

    1. Re:All Forecasting Rubbish... kind of by poofmeisterp · · Score: 1

      My subject is just mass skepticism mixed with a bad science and forecasting model coupled with some sick conspiracy to get people who live in the Northern US to stay up until the wee hours again like we all did in July 2017! This is even more bleak than last time based on their description.

      I will say: Why the heck is 'upper tier of the US' and 'areas of the US' even advertised in this article? That's garbage. Upper tier is Minnesota, North and some of South Dakota, Montana and anything else directly east and west of those and certainly not anymore south than Nebraska as best. Did geography change overnight? The only thing I see is Alaska and that's never been considered 'CONUS' last time I knew. I guess when the 'US' is said, I think CONUS --- we all know Hawaii and Alaska are part of the US but outlying.

      Man, whoever is writing this Aurora news lately really wants to make a story out of it.



      I don't know why they write this shit, like all of us can observe it the same as the people who live out in the middle of nowhere in said areas with 30-second-exposure cameras with light amplification.
  11. Re:Let's see. . . in the past month, we've had. . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Dammit, beat me to it. I wanted to make the comment on how this was somehow climate changes fault.

    And since I know I'm going to get down modded, remember, people were screaming how Harvey was because of climate change. Even though for all of our records, we get hit by hurricanes about that powerful every few years. Hell, it was only a cat 4 hurricane, so though strong, hardly ungodly powerful, and yet people were screaming climate change. Any increase in frequency or damage is most likely explained by the US being more densely populated. The frequency of hurricanes has not increased, in fact, hitting H by the end of August seems to indicate we're having a fairly slow season. Normally by this time of the year we're and M or N, to only be at I is a pretty slow season.

  12. Re:I taught my pet peacock to feed from my penis by GLMDesigns · · Score: 2

    all stretched out now?

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  13. Re:Coronal Mass Ejection? by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

    Admit it - you laughed

    No, I did not.

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  14. Yet somehow climate change can't change anything by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It seems like to some morons if the climate changes globally, there's fuck all change that happens.

    How does that work?

  15. Car guy here. by mjwx · · Score: 1

    I halfway expect Godzilla to emerge from Tokyo Bay, at this rate (grin)

    Picturing a Nissan GTR being dragged up from Tokyo harbour.

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    1. Re:Car guy here. by poofmeisterp · · Score: 1


      <p>Picturing a Nissan GTR being dragged up from Tokyo harbour.</p></quote>

      Thank you. I got the day's necessary healthy laugh from that. You rule! :-D

  16. Re:Let's see. . . in the past month, we've had. . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Awesome. Despite the fact that he never once mentioned global warming, and despite the fact that 3 of the 4 things he mentioned couldn't possibly have been caused by global warming, you assume he's talking about global warming and try to shoot it down.

    Once again, global warming deniers prove they aren't denying based on any factual evidence, but merely out of some gut instinct to deny anything you don't agree with politically, to the point that you are instinctively denying accusations that haven't even been made. You're like the guilty kid telling mom "I didn't eat the cookies" before she's even realized any cookies are missing.

  17. Re:Let's see. . . in the past month, we've had. . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hmm, you mean to say Glowbull Worming?

  18. 75 Meter Phone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The phone bands from 1.8 to 7.0 died at 7:01 central this morning.

    1. Re:75 Meter Phone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Meanwhile 6 and 10 meter contacts are appearing.

  19. More coming? by ebcdic · · Score: 4, Interesting

    There have been two X class solar flares today, and the second was X9, which is the biggest of this solar cycle. So there may be more geomagnetic storms coming over the next few days.

    1. Re:More coming? by Bob+the+Super+Hamste · · Score: 1

      The only thing that sucks is that I have to work and can't go up north to my lake property with its nice dark sky.

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    2. Re:More coming? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes that SunSpot is very active, seems like this new cycle is starting a little early, hate to see what it puts out at Max.

    3. Re:More coming? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Biggest Flare in decade;
      https://www.space.com/38057-sun-unleashes-decades-strongest-solar-flare.html

      Satellites may go down,
      Radio communications down,
      Weather reports may flag,
      Hate to be near that hurricane!

    4. Re:More coming? by barakn · · Score: 1

      The sunspots are near the solar equator and thus belong to the old cycle, not a new one.

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    5. Re:More coming? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Either way this is supposed to be solar minimum...

    6. Re:More coming? by poofmeisterp · · Score: 1

      Either way this is supposed to be solar minimum...



      Humans have had such an impact with global warming and stuff that things like this happen. Look at the solar minimum releasing more radiation than expected... Damn Humans for making these things happen!

      Sorry, had to. :)
    7. Re:More coming? by poofmeisterp · · Score: 1

      Is this a joke or are you being serious?

      If you're being serious, think about physics for a second. The magnetic loops in the areas that might blow again aren't pointed toward us anymore due to rotation and orbiting. I think we're good, man. All good, yo.

  20. Re:Let's see. . . in the past month, we've had. . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yet nobody cares about the thousands of people who died in the monsoons in southeast Asia recently. No no, those are brown people, we don't care.

  21. Smoke by PPH · · Score: 1

    Here in the Pacific Northwest. I had a thin layer of ash on my car again this morning.

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    1. Re:Smoke by poofmeisterp · · Score: 1

      Here in the Pacific Northwest. I had a thin layer of ash on my car again this morning.

      What? I can't hear you!?! You had a light coating of ash on par this morning?? WHA? :)

  22. Re: Let's see. . . in the past month, we've had. . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's because he's a dipshit looking for a soapbox. If the article was about the price of lemonade he'd still bring up denier arguments.

  23. Re: Natures Tribute to TRUMP! by OrangeTide · · Score: 1

    Trump should visit the Sun and tell it how great he is.

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  24. Earth's shields by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's pretty amazing that the Earth shields us so well from these type of things. Without the magnetic field we'd all be irradiated Hulk monsters! Wait, that might be cool!

  25. Stay inside by ChrisMaple · · Score: 1

    Between the Aurora and the eclipse we'll all be blinded. The Triffids will triumph.

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  26. Solar Storm Could aid in Deaths of Thousands Soon! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This solar storm may very well add to dangers linked to Hurricane Irma. The associated radio interference is a major concern to all satellites, especially weather satellites that have sensitive sensors. Note that in last 2 years we have lost a number of capabilities due to lack of funding on a number of weather and climate satellites, and now when we face terrible storms like those never seen in centuries, we are already getting less data than we had even 3 years ago. Look at the lack of contrast and color coded data in recent images from space. We will pay now in billions untold for the lack of funding in weather and climate space sciences that would have cost at most a little over a billion if they had been funded. Hindsight yes but fact none the less.

  27. Re:Solar Storm Could aid in Deaths of Thousands So by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You got that right

  28. Re:Solar Storm Could aid in Deaths of Thousands So by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah here's new report on new flare, huge;
    https://www.space.com/38057-sun-unleashes-decades-strongest-solar-flare.html

  29. Re:Let's see. . . in the past month, we've had. . by wyHunter · · Score: 1

    Actually it's more that it didn't happen in their backyard. Given that Texas is home to about 1 in 9 people of the USA, well, a lot of folks live in Texas or have friends and relatives who do. I daresay that to the folks in southeast Asia, hurricane harvey didn't mean a lot to them, either.

  30. Re:Let's see. . . in the past month, we've had. . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    or starvin' marvins from ethanopia.

  31. Whale strandings? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There was a paper put out recent on whale beach strandings that hypothesizes that whales and some other major migratory ocean creatures that are sensitives to geomagnetics (bio compasses) may be affected by solar flares causing shifts in the earth's mag field, enough that they do stupid things like head into shallow bays because they think that is north or south. The researchers tried lining up measured geomagnetic north variation readings of weather stations near sperm whale strandings and known space weather conditions, and there may be a delayed link between the two. So expect some whale strandings next week.

  32. Re:Let's see. . . in the past month, we've had. . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Thank you. I was watching LA92, a documentary on the race riots in Los Angeles in 1992, earlier this week. Those started with groups of black men gathering around an intersection and throwing bottles and rocks at cars driven by non-blacks. And then they started pulling people from the cars and beating them. That was worse than what we're seeing right now.

    Doesn't mean tomorrow won't be even worse, but perspective is good.

  33. Joke. by poofmeisterp · · Score: 1

    "Oh, nos! It's happening again! I'll lose productivity at work because of failures in all of my electronic equipment. My car won't start. I feel cancer developing in my brain right now. I can't use my oven at home!

    The fact that I'm watching movies at work over my wireless provider connection is different because that isn't affected for some reason... and my air conditioning somehow still works. The fridge is fine. Those I can't explain, but everything else in my life is torn apart!!!

    *posts to Facebook*"

    I'm sorry, I had to. It's happened and I have to bring it to light. Ha. Light.

  34. Re: Natures Tribute to TRUMP! by poofmeisterp · · Score: 1

    Trump should visit the Sun and push it aside to make it know how great he is.

    I think your fingers slipped. I tidied it up a bit for ya. You're welcome.

  35. Re:Let's see. . . in the past month, we've had. . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    hmm. Never mentioned Globull Wormening. Just noting that it's gotten unusually wierd out there, lately. . . .</p></quote>

    True dat, and to the parent, Go-zhee-ra should stay at bay. Moving those waters can cause severe damage, as his previous movement proves. We Humans done caused the solar minimum to not be minimum, and gozheera to emerge from the waters, warmed by us and cooled by the evaporation that fed hurricanes. Damn us.. Damn us all!

    "Aurorae, cold waters, and floods, OH MY!"

  36. Re:Let's see. . . in the past month, we've had. . by poofmeisterp · · Score: 1

    Hmm, you mean to say Glowbull Worming?



    Worming the bright Red Bull? What has it come to these days??
  37. Re:Let's see. . . in the past month, we've had. . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Actually it's more that it didn't happen in their backyard. Given that Texas is home to about 1 in 9 people of the USA, well, a lot of folks live in Texas or have friends and relatives who do.

    I daresay that to the folks in southeast Asia, hurricane harvey didn't mean a lot to them, either.</quote>

    They will regret their progression as typhoons destroy their dreams(tm). Our fault. ALL OUR FAULT. Stop, USA!

  38. Re: Natures Tribute to TRUMP! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Neither of these posts were worth reading. Next time don't bother.