Those who complain about being "the product", 1) have a choice not to be the product simply by stop using the services, 2) can be a bona fide customer, by definition, simply by starting to pay services. Where is the mystery or unfairness here?
....finding those services that offer what you're looking for that DON'T also spew ads all over your paid-access product.
When I say "finding", I mean searching for it (any search engine will do) and finding it among all of the advertised crap that appears to be one-and-the-same. Do you have enough time in the day? Do you have enough time and money to "try" each one and see the true product? If not, do you have the time and patience to deal with the ads and skewed (based on payment) data to try and get valid reviews? It's a 10-step process that is laden with extra steps that defy other steps and support others, which get in the way of some but not the others..... I'm rambling in that last sentence because that's exactly what I have to deal with when trying to find something I want to pay for that isn't crap in and of itself.
That's where *I* have a problem with it. It's not unfair; it's unbeatable..... or so they want it to be.
.....Oh, shoot, crapped myself again. It's alright, just need to change the diaper. Brb.
This person, as well as 452,194 others that use Slashdot.org, use "Brb" with a period after it instead of the 1,932,993 users that prefer "BRB" with no period.
Who wants to buy this along with data on capitalization habits and ordered numeric list usage-in-comment statistics?
Well, "Duh." Same for TV and radio. It's a REALLY old business model.
Here's what I taught my kids, growing up: Follow the money.
That is one of the most sagacious remarks I have seen today. Thank you. If *I* had kids, I would probably be viewed as an abusive parent for repeating that phrase so many times to them.:)
Apparently this is what some of the cable companies do with their on-demand. Track what uses watch then target them with personalized ads. And in this case you are paying cable companies for the privilege of getting targed ads.
I always wondered what it would be like to have the Hulu Ad-Time question changed to:
"Which type of ad do you you prefer?"
1. The New Car that looks sleeker and cooler than all of the others on the market today *cough* 2. The New Washing Machine that will clean more than 200 loads in an hour to help keep your family OnTheGo(sm) *choke* 3. Neither, because ads completely annoy the crap out of you and make you vow never to buy what you see on principle, let alone spending model of the company advertising. *cheer*
:)
I actually prefer to stare at a black screen with the seconds counting down over watching ads. I actually get up if I'm sitting down and walk away to do something else when ads come on because I can do nothing but verbally assault the BS they're throwing forth. My favorite part of DVR technology and some televisions' live halt features is to pause and read the fine print at the bottom of most ads; OMG OMG that is effing hilarious. Oh, and that only counts for the ones that don't have print so fine that present-day DIGITAL TV MAKES IT UNREADABLE. I'm waiting for the LAWSUITS TO FLY in court on that one..... I could go on but I'll stop.
Google is not "more evil". They just have the better tools, if NBCBSwhatever had the tools, they'd do EXACTLY the same.
Companies see you as a way to make money. By selling to you, or by selling you. Either is fine by them.
Heh. You're right.
Just made me realize (and I'm not joking but it sounds humorous in my head) that the ones who are selling TO you want to be seen and show how glamorous and awesome they are, along with their products or services that are the most awesome one you could ever have.
The ones who want to sell you remain completely invisible and mysterious with lots of disclaimers that they promise to do everything correct and by the books. They always have a lot of material surrounding them that distrac... hey look at the shiny ad with the cute little shirt and th.... SQUIRREL!!!!!
.....Time will tell, but it's unproductive to say that because they are in this to make money it's impossible for them to be responsible. The real question is what combination of public visibility/pressure, economic incentives, and regulation will lead to optimal outcomes.
Let's schedule a national "Google-Me-Not" day (only 1% of people may consider doing it, but will give good data). Let's have a day where you use NO Google. Not for work, not for play, not for communication, nothing. Just nothing.
See how long you can hold up. When I say "you", I mean people in politics AND non-politicians.
Ain't nothin' gonna happen except a few slaps on the wrist with a little wink or two attached in the end.;)
What'd be the real life, real technology meaning of an e-rental? I get I file that I later need to delete when the rental expires? Smart! Very smart indeed!
You make it sound like spreading the seeds of lawsuit potential. Amazon could sue for cash and pass part of that cash on to the publishers whenever their profit margin starts falling. Sounds like encouragement of piracy for future survival safety from what you say.
I didn't think about it that way, but nice observation!
Unfortunately, they'll just have AmazonWare(tm)(c)(r)(sm) on every usable device to spread their visibility and reliance. Reminds me of some small company from the past called something strange like.. Micro-software... or something.:)
The metals and chemicals for batteries come from the Land of the Mystical, where they magically appear and disappear with no loss or pollution. They require no energy to recycle or dispose of expended chem or metals. They require zero energy to charge; it just magically appears and comes from the Land of the Magic.
Sure, when wonderful things that are harmless and good for the environment appear, there's no reason to double-check the manufacturing processes or R&D. Wonderful is just wonderful with no reason to worry or think at all.
....when you have a working business model and your profit margin is excellent, you must follow the "Gaming Code":
1. Get scared that something isn't right because you're doing so well. 2. Add something that is counter-intuitive, defined as such by the very name of the product. 3. Profit more. 4. GOTO 1.
Most legislation begins as a method of soliciting campaign donations.
You are so correct on that one, my friend. I concede, completely.
The political problem around the world is now 'oligarchs' vs the rest of us, but most people are stuck in the 'left vs right' or 'corporations vs people' mindset.
I understand you here and my mind agrees from every angle, but I'm not sure how you got on it. What did I miss?
Probably someone (Senator Richard Blumenthal) who got screwed over. Now, instead of "caring" and "listening to the concerns" of those involved, he will actually act.
So instead of being assured of a standard level of security, customers (including people who sign up to comment on a website, people who want to use a bank and people who like to buy things on the internet) have to sort through the security policies of each provider and decide if it's good enough. Oh, and they also have to decide whether or not to believe the company's description of their data security policies. Does the company issue laptops? Do they require laptop drives to be encrypted? Do their employees write their decryption keys on a label stuck to the bottom of the laptop? Who knows?
Who cares?
If you want to just act without thinking or analyzing, you're utilizing trust.
When you trust, you can be screwed over if you don't know who/what it is you're trusting.
To clarify, fish oil is recognized by the AMA and various international medical organizations as having cardio protective effects. So your grandma was onto something with that cod liver oil. EPA and DHA are essential nutrients. Snake oil on the other hand....
....and I'm sure you can spend enough time with the research to prove that in every case, eating pond scum builds a person's immune system.
Snake VENOM tastes good, too... until it doesn't.:)
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Those who complain about being "the product", 1) have a choice not to be the product simply by stop using the services, 2) can be a bona fide customer, by definition, simply by starting to pay services. Where is the mystery or unfairness here?
....finding those services that offer what you're looking for that DON'T also spew ads all over your paid-access product.
When I say "finding", I mean searching for it (any search engine will do) and finding it among all of the advertised crap that appears to be one-and-the-same. Do you have enough time in the day? Do you have enough time and money to "try" each one and see the true product? If not, do you have the time and patience to deal with the ads and skewed (based on payment) data to try and get valid reviews? It's a 10-step process that is laden with extra steps that defy other steps and support others, which get in the way of some but not the others..... I'm rambling in that last sentence because that's exactly what I have to deal with when trying to find something I want to pay for that isn't crap in and of itself.
That's where *I* have a problem with it. It's not unfair; it's unbeatable..... or so they want it to be.
.....Oh, shoot, crapped myself again. It's alright, just need to change the diaper. Brb.
This person, as well as 452,194 others that use Slashdot.org, use "Brb" with a period after it instead of the 1,932,993 users that prefer "BRB" with no period.
Who wants to buy this along with data on capitalization habits and ordered numeric list usage-in-comment statistics?
:>
/snark
Well, "Duh." Same for TV and radio. It's a REALLY old business model.
Here's what I taught my kids, growing up: Follow the money.
That is one of the most sagacious remarks I have seen today. Thank you. If *I* had kids, I would probably be viewed as an abusive parent for repeating that phrase so many times to them. :)
Apparently this is what some of the cable companies do with their on-demand. Track what uses watch then target them with personalized ads. And in this case you are paying cable companies for the privilege of getting targed ads.
I always wondered what it would be like to have the Hulu Ad-Time question changed to:
"Which type of ad do you you prefer?"
1. The New Car that looks sleeker and cooler than all of the others on the market today *cough*
:)
2. The New Washing Machine that will clean more than 200 loads in an hour to help keep your family OnTheGo(sm) *choke*
3. Neither, because ads completely annoy the crap out of you and make you vow never to buy what you see on principle, let alone spending model of the company advertising. *cheer*
I actually prefer to stare at a black screen with the seconds counting down over watching ads. I actually get up if I'm sitting down and walk away to do something else when ads come on because I can do nothing but verbally assault the BS they're throwing forth. My favorite part of DVR technology and some televisions' live halt features is to pause and read the fine print at the bottom of most ads; OMG OMG that is effing hilarious. Oh, and that only counts for the ones that don't have print so fine that present-day DIGITAL TV MAKES IT UNREADABLE. I'm waiting for the LAWSUITS TO FLY in court on that one..... I could go on but I'll stop.
Google is not "more evil". They just have the better tools, if NBCBSwhatever had the tools, they'd do EXACTLY the same.
Companies see you as a way to make money. By selling to you, or by selling you. Either is fine by them.
Heh. You're right.
Just made me realize (and I'm not joking but it sounds humorous in my head) that the ones who are selling TO you want to be seen and show how glamorous and awesome they are, along with their products or services that are the most awesome one you could ever have.
The ones who want to sell you remain completely invisible and mysterious with lots of disclaimers that they promise to do everything correct and by the books. They always have a lot of material surrounding them that distrac... hey look at the shiny ad with the cute little shirt and th.... SQUIRREL!!!!!
.....Time will tell, but it's unproductive to say that because they are in this to make money it's impossible for them to be responsible. The real question is what combination of public visibility/pressure, economic incentives, and regulation will lead to optimal outcomes.
Let's schedule a national "Google-Me-Not" day (only 1% of people may consider doing it, but will give good data). Let's have a day where you use NO Google. Not for work, not for play, not for communication, nothing. Just nothing.
See how long you can hold up. When I say "you", I mean people in politics AND non-politicians.
Ain't nothin' gonna happen except a few slaps on the wrist with a little wink or two attached in the end. ;)
It shows that the "omg free stuff" marketing works to people....
The thing that comes to mind every single damn time I see something that's offered for "free" is "what do you want?"
The other quote that applies is "When something seems to good to be true...."
This sounds a bit like they are going for out-of-copyright stuff in the first place. So why not just get these books from Project Gutenberg?
Shhhhhhhhh! Don't tell people how to get around their idiot-driven model. :>
What'd be the real life, real technology meaning of an e-rental?
I get I file that I later need to delete when the rental expires?
Smart! Very smart indeed!
You make it sound like spreading the seeds of lawsuit potential. Amazon could sue for cash and pass part of that cash on to the publishers whenever their profit margin starts falling. Sounds like encouragement of piracy for future survival safety from what you say.
I didn't think about it that way, but nice observation!
Unfortunately, they'll just have AmazonWare(tm)(c)(r)(sm) on every usable device to spread their visibility and reliance. Reminds me of some small company from the past called something strange like.. Micro-software... or something. :)
Bingo!
I remember the old adage of "When something seems too good to be true......"
Uh, huh. Sure they are.
The metals and chemicals for batteries come from the Land of the Mystical, where they magically appear and disappear with no loss or pollution. They require no energy to recycle or dispose of expended chem or metals. They require zero energy to charge; it just magically appears and comes from the Land of the Magic.
Sure, when wonderful things that are harmless and good for the environment appear, there's no reason to double-check the manufacturing processes or R&D. Wonderful is just wonderful with no reason to worry or think at all.
I posted the fixed copy... I haven't scripted in so many years that I just outright SUCK at it! :)
Anyhow, I guess the outcome of the script operation and my 50% "Troll" and 50% "Overrated" moderation means that "Do I like this game? Yes."
Foot in mouth.
It's been way too long. Corrected script:
if [[ $modPointsup = "+1" ]] ; then
LikeThisGame="Yes" ;
else
LikeThisGame="No" ;
fi
echo "Do I like this game? ${LikeThisGame}."
echo "LOL. Come on... Humor."
exit 0
echo "I don't have enough coffee to script again. Replace = with ==" ;
exit 255
Actually, it would be "exit 0" with no parenthesis for a shell script. Damn.
My point made. Bad game language screwed with my brain. lol
if ( $modPointsup = "+1" ) ; then {
LikeThisGame="Yes"
}
else {
LikeThisGame="No"
}
echo "Do I like this game? ${LikeThisGame}."
echo "LOL. Come on... Humor."
exit(0)
....when you have a working business model and your profit margin is excellent, you must follow the "Gaming Code":
1. Get scared that something isn't right because you're doing so well.
2. Add something that is counter-intuitive, defined as such by the very name of the product.
3. Profit more.
4. GOTO 1.
*giggle*
Which part is the quote and which part is your words?
I believe a quotation is supposed to be enclosed in quotation marks.
Most legislation begins as a method of soliciting campaign donations.
You are so correct on that one, my friend. I concede, completely.
The political problem around the world is now 'oligarchs' vs the rest of us, but most people are stuck in the 'left vs right' or 'corporations vs people' mindset.
I understand you here and my mind agrees from every angle, but I'm not sure how you got on it. What did I miss?
And when the government is said mishandler... does this mean tax refunds?
Yes, but the money will be sent to the person that just stole your social security number.
I smell fire or something.... What is that?
BUUUURN! Nice one. :)
Quite right. This is the exact reason I pipe my customer's information to /dev/null
Where does your profit come from if you /dev/nullified all of the data?? :>
FTFY
By making it grammatically incorrect?
They dun americanizdeded it tthat makes it gramarticalicly kerrect!
HUMOR, HUMOR.
Who do you think is asking for the rules?...
Probably someone (Senator Richard Blumenthal) who got screwed over. Now, instead of "caring" and "listening to the concerns" of those involved, he will actually act.
Just a hunch here... Just a hunch.
So instead of being assured of a standard level of security, customers (including people who sign up to comment on a website, people who want to use a bank and people who like to buy things on the internet) have to sort through the security policies of each provider and decide if it's good enough. Oh, and they also have to decide whether or not to believe the company's description of their data security policies. Does the company issue laptops? Do they require laptop drives to be encrypted? Do their employees write their decryption keys on a label stuck to the bottom of the laptop? Who knows?
Who cares?
If you want to just act without thinking or analyzing, you're utilizing trust.
When you trust, you can be screwed over if you don't know who/what it is you're trusting.
Get smart or get..... fart. Ed. On. :)
To clarify, fish oil is recognized by the AMA and various international medical organizations as having cardio protective effects. So your grandma was onto something with that cod liver oil. EPA and DHA are essential nutrients. Snake oil on the other hand....
....and I'm sure you can spend enough time with the research to prove that in every case, eating pond scum builds a person's immune system.
Snake VENOM tastes good, too... until it doesn't. :)