That's different from the daily cheat schemes from not-so-hot companies..... how?
The company forces you to see the ToS in order for it to be binding. They are required to put it in front of your eye balls in a way that you can not have missed it, only chosen to ignore it in order for it to be legally binding.
And then you fucking click next or I agree or whatever. THATS the difference.
They never get the option to look at your terms, and you are willfully ignoring to read theirs so you can claim ignorance later.
Please read what I said carefully...
...not-so-hot companies...
I'm referring to encouraged click-throughs and/or LONG ToS text, that hides by embedding, the stuff they don't want 'Joe, Average' seeing.
So anyone with bad memory can't talk because they're always wrong?
I just don't remember. I'd like to post references but I don't have them. I don't focus on things of that caliber in my life. They're points of interest, but they fade over time.
I hope someone else reading knows what I'm talking about; everyone not understanding doesn't mean a few (or many) won't. Trolling (IMHO) needs a dash of 'intent', not just a bad memory of specifics when said specifics don't define the comment's overall message.
I know I'm not top-dog, but does what I just communicated make sense (even if you don't agree), or am I just full of crap?
Addendum: Definition of "Troll" from http://www.slashdot.org/faq : "Troll -- A Troll is similar to Flamebait, but slightly more refined. This is a prank comment intended to provoke indignant (or just confused) responses. A Troll might mix up vital facts or otherwise distort reality, to make other readers react with helpful "corrections." Trolling is the online equivalent of intentionally dialing wrong numbers just to waste other people's time."
I think that's what the commenter above your earlier one was saying; it's really sad but the direction that we think it's illogical and unsafe for them to go in will probably be the one that they DO go in; they'll probably (this is a probably, not a 'fer-sher') be ""encouraged"" by Microsoft to teach their version and not the overall and all-inclusive version of programming.
1. You're not providing a service, therefore you can't offer terms of that service. 2. You know that a human will never be reading that header. It probably won't even be found in logs. It's like whispering under your breath when you sign a contract.
Yeah. Agreed. That's different from the daily cheat schemes from not-so-hot companies..... how?
Thanks for finally revealing what ??? means. Now we know that the penultimate step in every business venture is "Invest in new prison construction." Imagine the effect those stolen underpants will have!
Now you had to start running your mouth and training the other "x" percentage of readers that wouldn't have gotten it. Now it's ruined. Forever.
I use the "Modify Headers" FF extension to add the following to all my browser requests:
X-Terms-Of-Service: By responding to this request, you agree to place no restrictions on the requesting user's use of the data you send, and that no subsequent terms of service may modify this provision.
Lolzers. Awesome.
Now make that header an RFC. Then, get a new random lawsuit filed, processed, and won. Get another suit and _use case law_ to win it.
....However, Senators Franken and Grassley added an amendment (PDF) to exempt violations of ToS and employer policies from the lists of felony activity. w00t for common sense.
Excellent. This really made me blink and re-read many times to ensure the post and all of the articles referenced were actually what I thought I read.
Hopefully this will prevent scare-suit tactics from large companies that aren't "making enough money this quarter".:)
I'm referencing activities from the past, not trollin'.
I wonder what they'll be teaching them on. There must be some lightweight youngster friendly languages out there that teach you all the logic basics, and then extend out further.
Probably.NET or whatever the corporate favorite of the day is:-(
Someone mod this NOT Funny.
I actually saw where he was coming from on that. Now I feel dumb. What did I miss that makes it not funny?
This is a really good thing. As the summary notes, this will teach kids logic and thinking systematically. Knowing how to program isn't just a useful skill in the direct sense of programming things and possibly being employed that way. It also does a really good job of making one think precisely and carefully. There's also another advantage which is it helps kids appreciate that the technology around them are things they can understand and don't need to treat like they are magic.
I wish, OH I WISH, people in the USA had the possibility of being valued the same way. When I say that, I mean that logical skills and the ability to quick-learn any existing software and its functionality is FAR more valuable than being taught only rote skills of using existing business software.
If that were the case, my resume might actually be viewed as gold instead of "how does this show that this Kevin guy knows anything or is worth anything to us?"
No, I don't know anything but the basics of Excel or Word; I don't need to. When a prospective employer sees no "Word and/or Excel TRAINING", I'm dismissed almost immediately because the AVERAGE HR PERSON (not all) can't tell their you-know-what from a hole in the you-know-where because they are HR; they have no idea what the technical ability is represented by. Same goes for upper-level management that makes the decisions of the calling pool given to the interviewers.
Just my $.02 worthless cents. No this isn't troll or flamebait; I'm jealous of the U.K. for having a potential in working past this issue.
I wish they would have just explained themselves in the "press release" in the first place. Ambiguity and mystery are an annoying underlying element in (especially patent-looking) public info release.
Yes, basically it's just saying Microsoft is making it's tablets/phones like the iPhone in not supporting Flash, whilst all normal desktop browsers and Android phones will continue to support it - and most importantly - other plugins too.
Ah, so it's trying to become the new 'standard' again. Got it.:)
Do you think we're all just stroking our own egos here? I'm sorry for ejaculating like this but to me this is a serious tissue.
That's right, bro... That's right. You just keep spewin' your junk all over. Keep shootin' yourself in the foot. Go on. When you turn the knob in the wrong direction, someone's gonna whack your neck until you're chokin' like a chicken.
Obviously an astronomer with mod points doesn't have a sense of humor. Hard to believe there's a humorless astronomer out there, but there you go.
I don't understand what you're saying. Beetelgeuse is frying tonight, dude!!!! You should check it out. Oh, and did you hear about that supernova a few days ago. Awesome./snark
The use of tools was a significant early step in the development of humankind. Maybe, in as little as a couple million years, the big studios will be ready to be part of civilized society.
Good one. It's all masturbation jokes from here on out.
I am highly offended that you would suggest a tool of some nature, like a jack, being used as an item in a masturbation joke. WTF?
If I may add, I do believe that a monitor with touch is just as dead as a monitor without touch. Correct me if I'm wrong.:>
You just aren't touching it right:).
Dear Microsoft,
I was at work today and my boss asked me how my statistics report was coming along. I tried to show her a copy but for some reason it wouldn't budge. I had to slow down. I ran my moist finger from the bottom to the top very slowly, inch by inch, until finally, it popped up like a shaking little window that just had the best time of its life beneath the pressure of my nimble index.
Seems like the Windows/Star Trek "every other release" rule is still in play. This user interface will be horrible on the business desktop for people who actually want to get real work done. I wonder how many businesses will avoid Windows 8 and wait for 9 to come out?
LOL! Nice words.
I wonder how many will buy 8, then wait until 9 comes out and buy it to replace the one they currently have (8) that is SO CLOSE to awesome but just lacking a couple of things [they] HOPE will be in 9!:)
Quote from link: "Every screen needs to be touch. A monitor without touch feels dead."
Response: Like everything developed by every company that wants to have mass market sales, it's humorous to NOT hear "It's what we've noticed as something very popular with other types of [technology] that eats up peoples' time and develops even further interest in buying. Mystery and slow revelation with additional hidden secrets is the key to fast up-front sales. We'll jump on the bandwagon, but it's something completely different from the norm! Buy it and you'll find out how!"
Honesty is too painful to just throw out there, I guess.:)
Not troll material or flamebait at all - It's just something I see constantly and I find it humorous. I may love Windows 8, I may hate it. Don't know until I use it.
That's different from the daily cheat schemes from not-so-hot companies..... how?
The company forces you to see the ToS in order for it to be binding. They are required to put it in front of your eye balls in a way that you can not have missed it, only chosen to ignore it in order for it to be legally binding.
And then you fucking click next or I agree or whatever. THATS the difference.
They never get the option to look at your terms, and you are willfully ignoring to read theirs so you can claim ignorance later.
Please read what I said carefully...
...not-so-hot companies...
I'm referring to encouraged click-throughs and/or LONG ToS text, that hides by embedding, the stuff they don't want 'Joe, Average' seeing.
So anyone with bad memory can't talk because they're always wrong?
I just don't remember. I'd like to post references but I don't have them. I don't focus on things of that caliber in my life. They're points of interest, but they fade over time.
I hope someone else reading knows what I'm talking about; everyone not understanding doesn't mean a few (or many) won't. Trolling (IMHO) needs a dash of 'intent', not just a bad memory of specifics when said specifics don't define the comment's overall message.
I know I'm not top-dog, but does what I just communicated make sense (even if you don't agree), or am I just full of crap?
Addendum: Definition of "Troll" from http://www.slashdot.org/faq : "Troll -- A Troll is similar to Flamebait, but slightly more refined. This is a prank comment intended to provoke indignant (or just confused) responses. A Troll might mix up vital facts or otherwise distort reality, to make other readers react with helpful "corrections." Trolling is the online equivalent of intentionally dialing wrong numbers just to waste other people's time."
Oh, I know!
I think that's what the commenter above your earlier one was saying; it's really sad but the direction that we think it's illogical and unsafe for them to go in will probably be the one that they DO go in; they'll probably (this is a probably, not a 'fer-sher') be ""encouraged"" by Microsoft to teach their version and not the overall and all-inclusive version of programming.
Money talks, logic walks.
IANAL, but...
1. You're not providing a service, therefore you can't offer terms of that service.
2. You know that a human will never be reading that header. It probably won't even be found in logs. It's like whispering under your breath when you sign a contract.
Yeah. Agreed. That's different from the daily cheat schemes from not-so-hot companies..... how?
4. Invest in new prison construction.
Thanks for finally revealing what ??? means. Now we know that the penultimate step in every business venture is "Invest in new prison construction." Imagine the effect those stolen underpants will have!
Now you had to start running your mouth and training the other "x" percentage of readers that wouldn't have gotten it. Now it's ruined. Forever.
??? is investment in prison construction.
Thanks a lot, thanks.. a... lot. /humor :)
I use the "Modify Headers" FF extension to add the following to all my browser requests:
X-Terms-Of-Service: By responding to this request, you agree to place no restrictions on the requesting user's use of the data you send, and that no subsequent terms of service may modify this provision.
Lolzers. Awesome.
Now make that header an RFC. Then, get a new random lawsuit filed, processed, and won. Get another suit and _use case law_ to win it.
Success. :)
....However, Senators Franken and Grassley added an amendment (PDF) to exempt violations of ToS and employer policies from the lists of felony activity. w00t for common sense.
Excellent. This really made me blink and re-read many times to ensure the post and all of the articles referenced were actually what I thought I read.
Hopefully this will prevent scare-suit tactics from large companies that aren't "making enough money this quarter". :)
I'm referencing activities from the past, not trollin'.
I wonder what they'll be teaching them on. There must be some lightweight youngster friendly languages out there that teach you all the logic basics, and then extend out further.
Probably .NET or whatever the corporate favorite of the day is :-(
Someone mod this NOT Funny.
I actually saw where he was coming from on that. Now I feel dumb. What did I miss that makes it not funny?
This is a really good thing. As the summary notes, this will teach kids logic and thinking systematically. Knowing how to program isn't just a useful skill in the direct sense of programming things and possibly being employed that way. It also does a really good job of making one think precisely and carefully. There's also another advantage which is it helps kids appreciate that the technology around them are things they can understand and don't need to treat like they are magic.
I wish, OH I WISH, people in the USA had the possibility of being valued the same way. When I say that, I mean that logical skills and the ability to quick-learn any existing software and its functionality is FAR more valuable than being taught only rote skills of using existing business software.
If that were the case, my resume might actually be viewed as gold instead of "how does this show that this Kevin guy knows anything or is worth anything to us?"
No, I don't know anything but the basics of Excel or Word; I don't need to. When a prospective employer sees no "Word and/or Excel TRAINING", I'm dismissed almost immediately because the AVERAGE HR PERSON (not all) can't tell their you-know-what from a hole in the you-know-where because they are HR; they have no idea what the technical ability is represented by. Same goes for upper-level management that makes the decisions of the calling pool given to the interviewers.
Just my $.02 worthless cents. No this isn't troll or flamebait; I'm jealous of the U.K. for having a potential in working past this issue.
Excellent description. Thank you! :)
I wish they would have just explained themselves in the "press release" in the first place. Ambiguity and mystery are an annoying underlying element in (especially patent-looking) public info release.
Oh yeah. That Sat' sure can read the brainwave patterns of a single Human being from 120 miles above the surface. Easy!
Pfft.
I wasn't aware that Microsoft had a monopoly in the tablet OS space?
They don't, but they sure want it.
Yes, basically it's just saying Microsoft is making it's tablets/phones like the iPhone in not supporting Flash, whilst all normal desktop browsers and Android phones will continue to support it - and most importantly - other plugins too.
Ah, so it's trying to become the new 'standard' again. Got it. :)
Begins with a G. :)
Facebook is the VHS of the social network wars. And if they don't pick their act up g+ will end up being betamax
Reverse what you said and I'm 100% with ya ;)
....I'll give a penny to anyone who answers correctly.
This is snark, but actually I do have a LARGE entity in mind that I would bet big bucks will be the first to purchase.
In fact, I'd bet they're talking to them already and working on the best way to ensure success and looking "clean" on it.
So, short summary: they don't have a useful device, and they don't have anything beyond "plans" to make it work.
The word "patent" just comes to mind and buzzes around like a....
Oh, wait.. I don't wanna violate it.
/humor
Quote from article and /. post: "...and is able to generate 100 times the power of devices of similar size."
My addition that explains the subject of this comment: "...but we won't bother to tell you what those devices are."
WHAT devices that are similar to "that" size "generate" power?
Do you think we're all just stroking our own egos here? I'm sorry for ejaculating like this but to me this is a serious tissue.
That's right, bro... That's right. You just keep spewin' your junk all over. Keep shootin' yourself in the foot. Go on. When you turn the knob in the wrong direction, someone's gonna whack your neck until you're chokin' like a chicken.
Obviously an astronomer with mod points doesn't have a sense of humor. Hard to believe there's a humorless astronomer out there, but there you go.
I don't understand what you're saying. Beetelgeuse is frying tonight, dude!!!! You should check it out. Oh, and did you hear about that supernova a few days ago. Awesome. /snark
The use of tools was a significant early step in the development of humankind. Maybe, in as little as a couple million years, the big studios will be ready to be part of civilized society.
Good one. It's all masturbation jokes from here on out.
I am highly offended that you would suggest a tool of some nature, like a jack, being used as an item in a masturbation joke. WTF?
If I may add, I do believe that a monitor with touch is just as dead as a monitor without touch. Correct me if I'm wrong. :>
You just aren't touching it right :).
Dear Microsoft,
I was at work today and my boss asked me how my statistics report was coming along. I tried to show her a copy but for some reason it wouldn't budge. I had to slow down. I ran my moist finger from the bottom to the top very slowly, inch by inch, until finally, it popped up like a shaking little window that just had the best time of its life beneath the pressure of my nimble index.
Sincerely,
John Doe
LOL
Yeah, because fingerprints all over my desktop screen full time is what I want/need.
If I may add, I do believe that a monitor with touch is just as dead as a monitor without touch. Correct me if I'm wrong. :>
Seems like the Windows/Star Trek "every other release" rule is still in play. This user interface will be horrible on the business desktop for people who actually want to get real work done. I wonder how many businesses will avoid Windows 8 and wait for 9 to come out?
LOL! Nice words.
I wonder how many will buy 8, then wait until 9 comes out and buy it to replace the one they currently have (8) that is SO CLOSE to awesome but just lacking a couple of things [they] HOPE will be in 9! :)
Quote from link: "Every screen needs to be touch. A monitor without touch feels dead."
Response: Like everything developed by every company that wants to have mass market sales, it's humorous to NOT hear "It's what we've noticed as something very popular with other types of [technology] that eats up peoples' time and develops even further interest in buying. Mystery and slow revelation with additional hidden secrets is the key to fast up-front sales. We'll jump on the bandwagon, but it's something completely different from the norm! Buy it and you'll find out how!"
Honesty is too painful to just throw out there, I guess. :)
Not troll material or flamebait at all - It's just something I see constantly and I find it humorous. I may love Windows 8, I may hate it. Don't know until I use it.