agreed 100%, and I am fully expecting the whole of slashdot to agree with you, as (from what i read here), the vast majority of people using p2p are doing it to download creative commons and open source programs and linux distributions. All that traffic to the piratebay is just people sharing their holiday photos etc.
I think it's pretty fair, if I get caught speeding i get fined instantly, I don't get given 2 warnings first.
And anyone who expects mass public campaigns against this needs to get out and speak to ordinary people. Most voters care about taxes, education, health and the economy, not whether or not their kids can keep maxxing out their bit-torrent speeds.
well done, you just set a new record for the arrogance of the pro-nuclear lobby. do you REALLY think that your post encourages me to re-think the risks of nuclear? or to make me think that pro-nuclear campaigners are arrogant jerks?
well good luck with all that, but until pro-nuke campaigners learn to explain why every nuclear power plant needs a huge govt subsidy, how they deal with the waste and the security and proliferation and decommissioning concerns, and spend less time snorting with derision and insulting and abusing people who ask these questions, you will never get new nuclear power stations.
and wow, modded as flamebait. I think that makes my point perfectly. So it's pretty clear nothing will change. pro-nuclear people have no intention of speaking in sensible terms to anti-nuclear people.
Slashdot REALLY doesn't like to hear anything that isn't in 100% agreement with the hive mind does it?
now you are telling me I'm not technologically savvy. I'm a computer programmer. My wife is a geneticist. I am not a luddite. I am not spreading FUD, but yet the slashdot crowd will insult and talk down to me for daring to be concerned about the environment.
This is why people like me never listen to arguments in favour of nuclear power, because they always come served with a generous side salad of sarcasm, abuse and condescension.
holy crap. So I'm a fucking evil scumbag, whereas if I was, for example a debt collector who forced his way into poor peoples homes to take away their refrigerator, then I'd be a much better person, as long as I was self employed or a sole-proprietor. That's much nicer than being an LLC that entertains people with video games.
I see it so clearly now. Capitalism is so evil. I'm off to north korea to bathe in the happiness of an alternate system.
as a concerned, and interested environmentalist, this:
"hysteria-spreading, anti-nuclear, tree-huggers"
just makes me stop reading. Great way to win over public opinion, talk down to and insult everyone who has understandable concerns about nuclear power. like it or not, chernobyl and 3 mile island happened. Like it or not, nuclear power stations are manned by people and subject to accidents and incompetence (and cost cutting). Insulting anyone who dares to air legitimate concerns is the best way to ensure they are never inclined to listen to your POV.
Am I an evil corporate scumbag because I own a limited liability company? Am I magically less evil if I make the same games as a sole proprietor? Or is all commerce evil and only working for free in a hippy commune an acceptable way to live?
These guys were scum who took other peoples hard work and tried to profit from it. They should be sued to death. If you tolerate this, then that means you would prefer all modern games to just be re-mixes of the 8 bit textures from games of twenty years ago. After all, why the hell put any effort into creating original stuff when you can just rip off people who can do better work than you.
Seth Godin is the marketing guru who advised google on how to succeed in business. he knows his stuff, and he is MASSIVELY anti spam. Tell your boss he needs to read the guys book before he does something that could wreck his business.
As a game dev, and from what I see, I'm assuming its a stability thing. Intel's chips have to WORK. and I mean WORK ALL THE TIME. getting a single calculation wrong is mega mega hell. remember the pentium calculation bug? People will calculate invoices and bank statements with that intel chip. It might control airplanes or god knows what. It needs to be foolproof and highly reliable.
Graphics chips draw pretty pictures on the screen.
It's a different ballgame. As a game dev, my 100% priority for any new chips is that they ship them with stable, tested drivers that are backwards compatible, not just great with directX 10 and 11. If someone wrote code that adhered correctly to the directx spec on version 5 or even 2, the new cards should render that code faithfully. Generally, they don't, and we have to explain to gamers why their spangly new video card is actually part of the problem in some situations:(
This isn't some amazing underground resistance fighting off the nazis, its people who are too tight fisted to buy the latest music wanting to leech it from torrent sites, and complaining when they get caught.
hardly Lenin or Che.
And don't pretend everyone on the internet agrees with you. when you say 'we' I presume you mean you and your school friends, because you sure don't speak for me or anyone I know who makes software for a living.
Then you are a fucking idiot. has it occurred to you that it's not just 'the big corps'? It seems that to people like you ANYONE who tries to make a living from software, movies, music or games is part of some silly 'EVIL CORPORATE' group that you have defined as the enemy, despite the fact that probably everything in your house, and everything you wear was made by some corporation, big or small.
Small companies are defended by copyright law just as much as larger ones, in fact more so, because we cant afford tons of lawyers and security measures to defend our stuff. The internet was a *fantastic* opportunity for small companies like mine to get publicity, to get known, and to deal direct with our customers without middlemen and gatekeepers. For the first time ever, a small one man company could create something innovative and sell it globally direct to the people without anyone taking a cut.
And then assholes like you came along and decided for no fucking good reason you would just take everyone's work (including the small guy's) and make it freely available to everyone.
End result...
Small guys crushed out of business, and the big corporates with their retail monopolies are back in power. nice work asshole.
errr. how are they are a monopoly? musicians are legally free to publish their own music. some do. Just because the vast majority of musicians DO voluntarily sign with a record company doesn't make them evil monopolies. it just means they are offering a service (promotion and distribution) many bands what to take advantage of. I don't like the RIAA either, but calling them a 'monopolistic mafia' is childish and innacurate.
I've been through Heathrow, its a polite picnic compared to the US. I got married in the USA and would love to revisit yosemite and vegas, But not while I'm treated as a terrorist on arrival. that ruins my holiday Mood. I spend my leisure money here in Europe instead thanks (or Canada).
wow, what cutting and incisive debating skills you showed there. You must be the original poster, with his childlike inability to comprehend basic economics. Now clean your room kid.
So tell me genius, how many millions have YOU made on the principle of making top quality software that can compete with commercial products, which your economic genius has told you must be given away free? Feel free to link to the financial data for your company.
Or.. (shock horror!) are you another armchair economist who has a day job / student course, yet somehow thinks he knows better than the multimillionaires and billionaires who run the worlds top software companies?
you are correct, but don't expect anything but abuse here on slashdot. Apparently linux is the best O/S in the universe, despite the fact that 99% of people will actually choose to buy a more expensive O/S instead of using it.
Apparently, being able to go buy any piece of hardware, such as a digital camera, and plug it into your PC and the O/S work seamlessly with it, without any required updates, patches or problems, is not something that people want. they prefer an O/S where they have to know about recompiling kernels and other such geekery.
"People at large don't see tangible value in something that can be copied at the cost of a couple of joules of electrical energy."
Well I don't see the value of a piece of paper with the word "$50" written on it. It's just a fucking piece of paper. And yet they want FIFTY QUID for it. Not only that, its an evil state-run monopoly and its actually ILLEGAL for me to attempt to make an unauthorised copy of the damn thing.
Actually 'people at large' DO understand that software, like everything else, takes considerable effort to produce. the fact that you can likely get away with stealing it doesn't change the basic economics. If you REALLY think that reducing marginal costs of production to zero fundamentally changes the price of a product that was 95% fixed costs anyway, then you need to read some elementary school economics.
and there is nobody fixing your burst pipe 'the way Steve fixes it' except Steve. If you want ANOTHER plumber to come fix your pipe, go for it, in which case why don't you go buy ANOTHER bands album? What is so evil about this specific plumber restricting his services to HIS terms. If that's so evil, then why do you still want his service anyway?
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agreed 100%, and I am fully expecting the whole of slashdot to agree with you, as (from what i read here), the vast majority of people using p2p are doing it to download creative commons and open source programs and linux distributions. All that traffic to the piratebay is just people sharing their holiday photos etc.
I think it's pretty fair, if I get caught speeding i get fined instantly, I don't get given 2 warnings first.
And anyone who expects mass public campaigns against this needs to get out and speak to ordinary people. Most voters care about taxes, education, health and the economy, not whether or not their kids can keep maxxing out their bit-torrent speeds.
well done, you just set a new record for the arrogance of the pro-nuclear lobby. do you REALLY think that your post encourages me to re-think the risks of nuclear? or to make me think that pro-nuclear campaigners are arrogant jerks?
well good luck with all that, but until pro-nuke campaigners learn to explain why every nuclear power plant needs a huge govt subsidy, how they deal with the waste and the security and proliferation and decommissioning concerns, and spend less time snorting with derision and insulting and abusing people who ask these questions, you will never get new nuclear power stations.
and wow, modded as flamebait. I think that makes my point perfectly. So it's pretty clear nothing will change. pro-nuclear people have no intention of speaking in sensible terms to anti-nuclear people.
Slashdot REALLY doesn't like to hear anything that isn't in 100% agreement with the hive mind does it?
Well if enjoying s feeling of superiority is more important than winning the argument... great move!
now you are telling me I'm not technologically savvy. I'm a computer programmer. My wife is a geneticist. I am not a luddite. I am not spreading FUD, but yet the slashdot crowd will insult and talk down to me for daring to be concerned about the environment.
This is why people like me never listen to arguments in favour of nuclear power, because they always come served with a generous side salad of sarcasm, abuse and condescension.
holy crap. So I'm a fucking evil scumbag, whereas if I was, for example a debt collector who forced his way into poor peoples homes to take away their refrigerator, then I'd be a much better person, as long as I was self employed or a sole-proprietor.
That's much nicer than being an LLC that entertains people with video games.
I see it so clearly now. Capitalism is so evil. I'm off to north korea to bathe in the happiness of an alternate system.
as a concerned, and interested environmentalist, this:
"hysteria-spreading, anti-nuclear, tree-huggers"
just makes me stop reading. Great way to win over public opinion, talk down to and insult everyone who has understandable concerns about nuclear power. like it or not, chernobyl and 3 mile island happened. Like it or not, nuclear power stations are manned by people and subject to accidents and incompetence (and cost cutting). Insulting anyone who dares to air legitimate concerns is the best way to ensure they are never inclined to listen to your POV.
I will, and I wont hide behind the nick anonymous coward slinging out random insults over the interweb for kicks.
Grow up kiddy.
so all corporations are teh evil incarnate eh?
Am I an evil corporate scumbag because I own a limited liability company? Am I magically less evil if I make the same games as a sole proprietor? Or is all commerce evil and only working for free in a hippy commune an acceptable way to live?
These guys were scum who took other peoples hard work and tried to profit from it. They should be sued to death. If you tolerate this, then that means you would prefer all modern games to just be re-mixes of the 8 bit textures from games of twenty years ago. After all, why the hell put any effort into creating original stuff when you can just rip off people who can do better work than you.
point him at this:
http://www.sethgodin.com/permission/
Seth Godin is the marketing guru who advised google on how to succeed in business. he knows his stuff, and he is MASSIVELY anti spam.
Tell your boss he needs to read the guys book before he does something that could wreck his business.
As a game dev, and from what I see, I'm assuming its a stability thing.
:(
Intel's chips have to WORK. and I mean WORK ALL THE TIME. getting a single calculation wrong is mega mega hell. remember the pentium calculation bug?
People will calculate invoices and bank statements with that intel chip. It might control airplanes or god knows what. It needs to be foolproof and highly reliable.
Graphics chips draw pretty pictures on the screen.
It's a different ballgame. As a game dev, my 100% priority for any new chips is that they ship them with stable, tested drivers that are backwards compatible, not just great with directX 10 and 11.
If someone wrote code that adhered correctly to the directx spec on version 5 or even 2, the new cards should render that code faithfully. Generally, they don't, and we have to explain to gamers why their spangly new video card is actually part of the problem in some situations
typical response from an anti-copyright retard... *sigh*
how old are you? six?
This isn't some amazing underground resistance fighting off the nazis, its people who are too tight fisted to buy the latest music wanting to leech it from torrent sites, and complaining when they get caught.
hardly Lenin or Che.
And don't pretend everyone on the internet agrees with you. when you say 'we' I presume you mean you and your school friends, because you sure don't speak for me or anyone I know who makes software for a living.
you do realise that being inspired by a work and creating a derivative is very different to just seeding a torrent of a hollywood movie right?
99% of DMCA prosecutions are about the latter.
Then you are a fucking idiot.
has it occurred to you that it's not just 'the big corps'? It seems that to people like you ANYONE who tries to make a living from software, movies, music or games is part of some silly 'EVIL CORPORATE' group that you have defined as the enemy, despite the fact that probably everything in your house, and everything you wear was made by some corporation, big or small.
Small companies are defended by copyright law just as much as larger ones, in fact more so, because we cant afford tons of lawyers and security measures to defend our stuff. The internet was a *fantastic* opportunity for small companies like mine to get publicity, to get known, and to deal direct with our customers without middlemen and gatekeepers. For the first time ever, a small one man company could create something innovative and sell it globally direct to the people without anyone taking a cut.
And then assholes like you came along and decided for no fucking good reason you would just take everyone's work (including the small guy's) and make it freely available to everyone.
End result...
Small guys crushed out of business, and the big corporates with their retail monopolies are back in power.
nice work asshole.
scary that some idiots labelled this insightful.
some reading for you:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fixed_costs
errr. how are they are a monopoly? musicians are legally free to publish their own music. some do.
Just because the vast majority of musicians DO voluntarily sign with a record company doesn't make them evil monopolies. it just means they are offering a service (promotion and distribution) many bands what to take advantage of.
I don't like the RIAA either, but calling them a 'monopolistic mafia' is childish and innacurate.
I've been through Heathrow, its a polite picnic compared to the US. I got married in the USA and would love to revisit yosemite and vegas, But not while I'm treated as a terrorist on arrival. that ruins my holiday Mood. I spend my leisure money here in Europe instead thanks (or Canada).
wow, what cutting and incisive debating skills you showed there. You must be the original poster, with his childlike inability to comprehend basic economics.
Now clean your room kid.
LOL.
This is hilarious. and bullshit.
So tell me genius, how many millions have YOU made on the principle of making top quality software that can compete with commercial products, which your economic genius has told you must be given away free?
Feel free to link to the financial data for your company.
Or.. (shock horror!) are you another armchair economist who has a day job / student course, yet somehow thinks he knows better than the multimillionaires and billionaires who run the worlds top software companies?
you are correct, but don't expect anything but abuse here on slashdot. Apparently linux is the best O/S in the universe, despite the fact that 99% of people will actually choose to buy a more expensive O/S instead of using it.
Apparently, being able to go buy any piece of hardware, such as a digital camera, and plug it into your PC and the O/S work seamlessly with it, without any required updates, patches or problems, is not something that people want. they prefer an O/S where they have to know about recompiling kernels and other such geekery.
"People at large don't see tangible value in something that can be copied at the cost of a couple of joules of electrical energy."
Well I don't see the value of a piece of paper with the word "$50" written on it. It's just a fucking piece of paper. And yet they want FIFTY QUID for it. Not only that, its an evil state-run monopoly and its actually ILLEGAL for me to attempt to make an unauthorised copy of the damn thing.
Actually 'people at large' DO understand that software, like everything else, takes considerable effort to produce. the fact that you can likely get away with stealing it doesn't change the basic economics. If you REALLY think that reducing marginal costs of production to zero fundamentally changes the price of a product that was 95% fixed costs anyway, then you need to read some elementary school economics.
hows that PATRIOT act working out for you guys?
and there is nobody fixing your burst pipe 'the way Steve fixes it' except Steve. If you want ANOTHER plumber to come fix your pipe, go for it, in which case why don't you go buy ANOTHER bands album?
What is so evil about this specific plumber restricting his services to HIS terms. If that's so evil, then why do you still want his service anyway?