Even a semi-advanced home user knows that 40 bit is weak. Many online banking and brokerage sites require 128 bit browsers. Even if they don't know how quickly EFF broke DES, they know that 40 bit is private, but 128 bit is secure.
On the other hand, if I use a strong (not so reversible) algorithm with a nice large keyspace (40 bit encryption has over 1 trillion possibly keys)
Umm, when did 40 bit become strong encryption? Must have been listenin' to Freeh's voice boming out from the black helicopters for too long. Given the credentials he totes around on this stuff, this has got to be a mistake.
I had thought obscurity went hand in hand with security. Stuff like trimming off your internal MTA's before sending things off to the internet and making sure that your firewall reveals no clues about what it's running. The more you make 'em work, the easier it is to catch 'em has always been my motto.
Sure... I'm only a senior developer and architect. Why would I ever need to install anything to take a look at it. I mean, hey, why would I need to use my own database server? I'll just use the shared server, and when I'm working the kinks out of some high end code that locks a table, I'll just go and reboot the shared server. I'm sure my developers won't mind. When I need to install a beta application to evaluate whether existing code breaks it, I'll just stand up and pull a server out of my ass. God help me if I want to use a cookie blocking program. Only criminals have anything to hide. If part of the responsibilities for doing my "fucking job" involves evaluating server-based applications, and I'm not able to install anything myself or run anything requiring admin/root level access, how do you propose I continue those duties of my "fucking job"?
You're right though, there are much better things to do in that situation than waste time on slashdot. I can look for my next job on the company dime.:)
That's true.. You're forgetting though, it's their OS, and they can put in whatever they want. I don't seem to recall any chess fans screaming for Bill's head because Solitaire, Minesweeper, and Freecell were included, but no chess program.
No one's been crying because Windows doesn't support x86 linux binaries. If that's what you need, you run linux or use something like VMWare. Why should Java be any different?
About NS, sorry, but NS has been on the downward spiral for quite some time. IE3 and NS3 were on par with one another. With v4, IE pulled away from NS, and with v5, IE stomped all over NS. The only reason I keep NS around anymore is to make sure that my developers format their tables properly.
Heh. We've got even nastier stuff afoot in our company. For the coming OS replacement to Win2k on the desktop, they're looking to lock EVERYONE down, even developers. The first day this comes around, I plan on devoting myself full-time to reading/., as I'll be unable to do much of anything else. No local admins, no self-installed applications, no access to the CD (except to listen to music). Orwell would be proud.
Naah. You're analyzing too much. Think back to grade school... More than likely, you had some complicated mathematical steps that arrived at a final value of 7734. Turn your calculator upside down, and read it.
There's also a banner floating around/. saying something like "1337 h4x0rs g07 j00 d0wn?". Same kinda thing.
Just to preface: I primarily use that "other" OS. Don't worry. It's not just linux they don't like. I made the mistake of picking up an HP system to play with at home. Three months after Win2k was released, they finally came out with modem and sound card drivers, but stated emphatically, including an interstitial message in the download process, that this is unsupported, if it doesn't work, tough, if it causes your marriage to break up, tough. Personally, given the support they have, I never plan on buying an HP product again.
Of course, YMMV. Me, I had a bad experience at a burger king in college. I haven't set foot in a burger king in eight years now.
Not if you ease into it... Throw open the doors, Napster like before. Just hand over your credit card, sign up, get a month free. After a month, you get a warning message that if you continue accessing, you will be charged. Sure, you'll have people continuing to sign up for trial memberships, but is a 95% compliance rate better or worse than 0% of users paying to use the service?
I've played with Gnutella and its children since it was first unleashed on the world by those crazy cats at Winamp (and subsequently yanked by their corporate mama). It's good, especially when you want to find stuff like the kopywrited sekrit OT III texts, DeCSS, or any other , but it's not designed from the ground up for music. That's what made Napster different, and for looking for music, better. Make it for music, make it good, and make it easy for the newbies, and people will flock to it.
I disagree. I know that I myself would happily pay money to Napster, and even the RIAA , if I could swap MP3's like the original Napster. No DRM, no proprietary formats. Pay for access, and let Napster, the RIAA, and the artists sort out amongst themselves how to divy up my money. I'm philosophically opposed to renting music (that is enforced through technology). As long as you keep paying, you keep getting access. Stop paying, and you lose access. You do not lose what you paid for. I'd willingly pay $20 per month for that kind of a service.
> This will severely limit the number of users from the non-standard platforms.
What? You mean people use something other than windows to pirate MP3's? Hmph.
> Would they at least convert to WAV to allow for burning?
But if you could convert to WAV, you could convert back to MP3, and break the DMCA-covered encryption.
My guess: the DRM will be even more paranoid than MS's Office activation process.
One interesting thing is that it would still be possible to skim the music once it's converted to analog by the sound card. If they put watermarking into that, then it's time to get the big guns out yet again to break it.
Naah. I dismissed that answer in my youth. I filled the tub with hot water and hot water only. If it was convection, the higher temperature of the standing water should've made up the difference in surface area of the moving water. Needless to say, the curtain didn't move.
Conversation is like documentation. Often, it's horribly useful when you're trying to figure something out. Sometimes, it might even be the fastest way to a solution. Usually though, it's used as a last resort. Often times, it's better to learn why than it is what. By slogging through the aftermath of your mistakes as made by others, hopefully you'll connect in a more personal way than you would by having it laid out plainly for you. Of course, that only applies to us left-brained logic fetishists (as all true prima donna geeks are). If this behavior causes that bad thing, then why would I continue to engage in this behavior (and by extension, perpetuate that bad thing)?
I don't think it's manipulative. It's teaching, and gently guiding. If they still don't get it, then by all means, lay it out nice and clear. As the original post said, if after that they still don't get it, then it's time to cut 'em loose.
One of these days, you will learn. I too was teetering on the edge. I started a new job, and was handed architect and lead dev responsibility for a large website. I was given four months, three trainees, and a limited resource bucket to pull it off. Through the course of the project, I needed not only to flex my technical muscles in working within the confines of the environment, but also establish why I was in a leadership role being new to the organization, along with gaining the street cred from the network, server, and security teams. Never mind that some time during the project (preferably early on), I needed to help my team learn how to do what needed to be done. The closest thing to experience they brought was that the guy I picked to work on the database side with me had done some stuff with Filemaker before. The best thing (IMHO) I did was to draw a hard boundary between data and interface. You call the procedures, we give you the data. We don't care what you do with it, you don't care how we do it. Forcing both sides of the house to focus solely on their own functionality allowed my team to learn only what they needed to in order to get the job done.
The experience required a tremendous attitude adjustment. It wasn't enough to say what and why, instead also needing to teach my team to understand why. They're now all on different projects, and seem to be thriving. I'd like to think that I helped them during the time they put in with me. I've gone back to two of them already for some help with things that I just couldn't add to my plate, and not only were they all too willing to help, they carried out the tasks exactly as I would've.
Prima donna's can get by in a small organization. To a certain degree, when you're big fish in a small pond, it's actually encouraged. Once you step out into the big wide world, you'll swim with the tide, or sink moving against it. Like I said, you will learn, if you want to stick around. One of the first things you'll learn is that business wins out over tech nine times out of ten. It's a hard cold fact, but unless you're in the business of technology, if technology and business run counter to one another, business will win. Even if you are in the business of technology, business will still win out more often than tech will. If that wasn't the case, Dilbert wouldn't be so damned funny.
> God is another major reason why I am stronger today.
Now there's a real prima donna... Thinks that even with a project as big as the universe, he can take a day off. Keeps all his code to himself, doesn't let anyone else share in the work.
You (the manager) have to take the good with the bad. Sure, the primadonna can drag things down, but consider what they do bring. I'm sure some would consider me to be one, but I'm always helpful for those who are willing to listen, instead of simply asking my opinion because someone said they better ask me. I'll do the grunt work if I have to. Just today I handed off a coding fix to one of my developers because he knew nothing about the documentation I needed to start writing.
OTOH, a primadonna who doesn't have the skills is a drag all around. There's a fine line that a lot of us walk, between indulging our quirks and buckling down. As a professional, it's up to you to make sure that your vision and your manager's vision of that line are in agreement with one another.
Too bad they already yanked his site at umich.edu. A quick web search turned up a link to www-personal.umich.edu for "Matt Carlin's Modest Homepage" on lavenderlinks.com.
Hey... I wonder... Lavenderlinks.. Barney.. Naah. He's more of a purple than a lavender.
So basically, if you're not making money off of it, you're cool. What about the web host? If I've got my "kill barney's lawyers" page, resplendent with graphic pictures of the sexual frolics between barney and his lawyers and what I'd like to do to the lot of them, up on geocities, Yahoo IS making money on the page (whether or not it's enough to cover the expenses is to the bean counters). They're clearly profiting from the use of the trademarked figure.
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Even a semi-advanced home user knows that 40 bit is weak. Many online banking and brokerage sites require 128 bit browsers. Even if they don't know how quickly EFF broke DES, they know that 40 bit is private, but 128 bit is secure.
On the other hand, if I use a strong (not so reversible) algorithm with a nice large keyspace (40 bit encryption has over 1 trillion possibly keys)
Umm, when did 40 bit become strong encryption? Must have been listenin' to Freeh's voice boming out from the black helicopters for too long. Given the credentials he totes around on this stuff, this has got to be a mistake.
I had thought obscurity went hand in hand with security. Stuff like trimming off your internal MTA's before sending things off to the internet and making sure that your firewall reveals no clues about what it's running. The more you make 'em work, the easier it is to catch 'em has always been my motto.
I always thought it was $3,000...
Sure... I'm only a senior developer and architect. Why would I ever need to install anything to take a look at it. I mean, hey, why would I need to use my own database server? I'll just use the shared server, and when I'm working the kinks out of some high end code that locks a table, I'll just go and reboot the shared server. I'm sure my developers won't mind. When I need to install a beta application to evaluate whether existing code breaks it, I'll just stand up and pull a server out of my ass. God help me if I want to use a cookie blocking program. Only criminals have anything to hide. If part of the responsibilities for doing my "fucking job" involves evaluating server-based applications, and I'm not able to install anything myself or run anything requiring admin/root level access, how do you propose I continue those duties of my "fucking job"?
:)
You're right though, there are much better things to do in that situation than waste time on slashdot. I can look for my next job on the company dime.
That's true.. You're forgetting though, it's their OS, and they can put in whatever they want. I don't seem to recall any chess fans screaming for Bill's head because Solitaire, Minesweeper, and Freecell were included, but no chess program.
No one's been crying because Windows doesn't support x86 linux binaries. If that's what you need, you run linux or use something like VMWare. Why should Java be any different?
About NS, sorry, but NS has been on the downward spiral for quite some time. IE3 and NS3 were on par with one another. With v4, IE pulled away from NS, and with v5, IE stomped all over NS. The only reason I keep NS around anymore is to make sure that my developers format their tables properly.
Heh. We've got even nastier stuff afoot in our company. For the coming OS replacement to Win2k on the desktop, they're looking to lock EVERYONE down, even developers. The first day this comes around, I plan on devoting myself full-time to reading /., as I'll be unable to do much of anything else. No local admins, no self-installed applications, no access to the CD (except to listen to music). Orwell would be proud.
Naah. You're analyzing too much. Think back to grade school... More than likely, you had some complicated mathematical steps that arrived at a final value of 7734. Turn your calculator upside down, and read it.
/. saying something like "1337 h4x0rs g07 j00 d0wn?". Same kinda thing.
There's also a banner floating around
ph33r m3 4nd my 133tn355! 1 0wn j00 4nd j00r w1nd0z333!!!!!!!
> 31337 h4x0r
eleet haxor, or elite hacker, in script-kiddie speak.
I've got the "31337 h4x0r" bumper sticker up in my cube. Several people have asked about it, only two chuckled without having it explained.
Just to preface: I primarily use that "other" OS. Don't worry. It's not just linux they don't like. I made the mistake of picking up an HP system to play with at home. Three months after Win2k was released, they finally came out with modem and sound card drivers, but stated emphatically, including an interstitial message in the download process, that this is unsupported, if it doesn't work, tough, if it causes your marriage to break up, tough. Personally, given the support they have, I never plan on buying an HP product again.
Of course, YMMV. Me, I had a bad experience at a burger king in college. I haven't set foot in a burger king in eight years now.
Not like it's that hard to download a JVM...
Not if you ease into it... Throw open the doors, Napster like before. Just hand over your credit card, sign up, get a month free. After a month, you get a warning message that if you continue accessing, you will be charged. Sure, you'll have people continuing to sign up for trial memberships, but is a 95% compliance rate better or worse than 0% of users paying to use the service?
I've played with Gnutella and its children since it was first unleashed on the world by those crazy cats at Winamp (and subsequently yanked by their corporate mama). It's good, especially when you want to find stuff like the kopywrited sekrit OT III texts, DeCSS, or any other , but it's not designed from the ground up for music. That's what made Napster different, and for looking for music, better. Make it for music, make it good, and make it easy for the newbies, and people will flock to it.
I disagree. I know that I myself would happily pay money to Napster, and even the RIAA , if I could swap MP3's like the original Napster. No DRM, no proprietary formats. Pay for access, and let Napster, the RIAA, and the artists sort out amongst themselves how to divy up my money. I'm philosophically opposed to renting music (that is enforced through technology). As long as you keep paying, you keep getting access. Stop paying, and you lose access. You do not lose what you paid for. I'd willingly pay $20 per month for that kind of a service.
> This will severely limit the number of users from the non-standard platforms.
What? You mean people use something other than windows to pirate MP3's? Hmph.
> Would they at least convert to WAV to allow for burning?
But if you could convert to WAV, you could convert back to MP3, and break the DMCA-covered encryption.
My guess: the DRM will be even more paranoid than MS's Office activation process.
One interesting thing is that it would still be possible to skim the music once it's converted to analog by the sound card. If they put watermarking into that, then it's time to get the big guns out yet again to break it.
Napster can now truly say, "We suck."
Stick a fork in their ass and turn 'em over. They're done.
Naah. I dismissed that answer in my youth. I filled the tub with hot water and hot water only. If it was convection, the higher temperature of the standing water should've made up the difference in surface area of the moving water. Needless to say, the curtain didn't move.
Why does the frank conversation have to be last?
Conversation is like documentation. Often, it's horribly useful when you're trying to figure something out. Sometimes, it might even be the fastest way to a solution. Usually though, it's used as a last resort. Often times, it's better to learn why than it is what. By slogging through the aftermath of your mistakes as made by others, hopefully you'll connect in a more personal way than you would by having it laid out plainly for you. Of course, that only applies to us left-brained logic fetishists (as all true prima donna geeks are). If this behavior causes that bad thing, then why would I continue to engage in this behavior (and by extension, perpetuate that bad thing)?
I don't think it's manipulative. It's teaching, and gently guiding. If they still don't get it, then by all means, lay it out nice and clear. As the original post said, if after that they still don't get it, then it's time to cut 'em loose.
One of these days, you will learn. I too was teetering on the edge. I started a new job, and was handed architect and lead dev responsibility for a large website. I was given four months, three trainees, and a limited resource bucket to pull it off. Through the course of the project, I needed not only to flex my technical muscles in working within the confines of the environment, but also establish why I was in a leadership role being new to the organization, along with gaining the street cred from the network, server, and security teams. Never mind that some time during the project (preferably early on), I needed to help my team learn how to do what needed to be done. The closest thing to experience they brought was that the guy I picked to work on the database side with me had done some stuff with Filemaker before. The best thing (IMHO) I did was to draw a hard boundary between data and interface. You call the procedures, we give you the data. We don't care what you do with it, you don't care how we do it. Forcing both sides of the house to focus solely on their own functionality allowed my team to learn only what they needed to in order to get the job done.
The experience required a tremendous attitude adjustment. It wasn't enough to say what and why, instead also needing to teach my team to understand why. They're now all on different projects, and seem to be thriving. I'd like to think that I helped them during the time they put in with me. I've gone back to two of them already for some help with things that I just couldn't add to my plate, and not only were they all too willing to help, they carried out the tasks exactly as I would've.
Prima donna's can get by in a small organization. To a certain degree, when you're big fish in a small pond, it's actually encouraged. Once you step out into the big wide world, you'll swim with the tide, or sink moving against it. Like I said, you will learn, if you want to stick around. One of the first things you'll learn is that business wins out over tech nine times out of ten. It's a hard cold fact, but unless you're in the business of technology, if technology and business run counter to one another, business will win. Even if you are in the business of technology, business will still win out more often than tech will. If that wasn't the case, Dilbert wouldn't be so damned funny.
> God is another major reason why I am stronger today.
Now there's a real prima donna... Thinks that even with a project as big as the universe, he can take a day off. Keeps all his code to himself, doesn't let anyone else share in the work.
You (the manager) have to take the good with the bad. Sure, the primadonna can drag things down, but consider what they do bring. I'm sure some would consider me to be one, but I'm always helpful for those who are willing to listen, instead of simply asking my opinion because someone said they better ask me. I'll do the grunt work if I have to. Just today I handed off a coding fix to one of my developers because he knew nothing about the documentation I needed to start writing.
OTOH, a primadonna who doesn't have the skills is a drag all around. There's a fine line that a lot of us walk, between indulging our quirks and buckling down. As a professional, it's up to you to make sure that your vision and your manager's vision of that line are in agreement with one another.
>Fowler hopes to reactivate them by soaking
>the milkweed fibres in additional nutrients.
Waiter, I'll have the soup and salad combo. Can I have a big bowl of beef broth too? It's for my jacket...
Why would she need to buy GM clothing when I could just lick it off for her for free? hehe
Too bad they already yanked his site at umich.edu. A quick web search turned up a link to www-personal.umich.edu for "Matt Carlin's Modest Homepage" on lavenderlinks.com.
Hey... I wonder... Lavenderlinks.. Barney.. Naah. He's more of a purple than a lavender.
So basically, if you're not making money off of it, you're cool. What about the web host? If I've got my "kill barney's lawyers" page, resplendent with graphic pictures of the sexual frolics between barney and his lawyers and what I'd like to do to the lot of them, up on geocities, Yahoo IS making money on the page (whether or not it's enough to cover the expenses is to the bean counters). They're clearly profiting from the use of the trademarked figure.