Hmm, I've seen some posts claiming not to be able to reproduce this, so I'll reply to myself in the hope this gets read:
This doesn't happen every time you copy a file, just sometimes. I can't put my finger on why, as not only do I not run antivirus software, but I also have Windows Defender disabled. Also, this can happen when nothing else but Windows Explorer is running. There's really just no good reason for it to take that long every 1 in 10 times you copy a file.
While it's very true that ext3 (for example) in Linux is way faster at copying than NTFS in XP, this particular issue with Vista shouldn't be with the filesystem - it uses the same NTFS that XP uses (at least, I'm able to read/write Vista NTFS partitions from within XP...)
I wasn't saying Microsoft was any better, but rather commenting that just telling someone exactly what to do isn't necessarily better than telling them to read the manual.
For example, your typical help-forum-posting Ubuntu user asking how to install something. Maybe if, instead of just guiding them through every letter they type at the console, the helper were to also make them understand what/why they were doing, the user could get a better understanding of how Linux works and figure it out on their own next time.
Or maybe I just have too much faith in education - maybe people should just learn addition tables from one to a million instead of learning how to add any two numbers.
Spot on! The animation is SA-WEET, especially because the copying one is a file that SPLITS INTO TWO IDENTICAL THINGIES. And not only can you watch the animation, but you can move the window around and watch it blur things behind it too!
Are you using the CPU/Memory monitor widget? I find that one takes quite a bit of CPU and memory to display the little speedometer-like dials.
As far as the file copying goes, I can attest to having experienced the problem the article is about, but not every time I copy. It's even a little bit more annoying that way; sometimes it'll be working great, and you'll copy a file and expect it to work quick and then, unexpectedly, you'll have to wait on that one.
Yes! I enjoy moving around the "Copying..." window while I wait, and watching it blur everything behind it! Seriously! It looks really nice! Try it on Graphite with transparency all the way up!
Do not use windows explorer file manager, use a 3rd party, its always 5-200x faster
Nice troll. If you'd even read the post you replied to, you'd see it had nothing to do with Windows Explorer. Oh, and everything is instant for me in Explorer, so I don't know what you're talking about. Plus, I like getting stuff like "Enqueue in Winamp" or "Add to Archive with WinRAR" in my right-click menu, so I don't use 3rd party shit.
MS programmers are newbie lamers
Yes, Microsoft programmers are obviously "newbie lamers", working for one of the largest and most successful software companies in the world.
Show us the code idiots!, we can fix it because your too lame.
If I was MS, I wouldn't let someone like you "fix" my code, because you can't even spell "you're".
This just in! An extremely common and necessary file operation takes about 10 times longer to do in Vista on the exact same hardware! Trust me, it's _really_ annoying. Oh, and this is Slashdot, of course there will be an article about every little thing;-)
Because people on Slashdot don't actually use the newest Microsoft OS before flaming it, so they wouldn't really know some of the less-publicized-yet-annoying problems like this.
I'd say Slashdot is actually pretty quick at highlighting problems with Vista (try slashdot.org/tags/defectivebydesign), but they don't really pick the right problems to bitch about - it's just "DRM this, Activation that".
That's not XP's fault, that's the fault of the software's uninstaller - it was one of those that manually checks for each file it installed being there, then deletes it, then goes to the next. Those are so annoying! I wish they'd at least give the option to just delete the whole install directory (which XP would do pretty much instantly, even with thousands of files).
I can confirm this. Copying a 10MB file from one directory to another on the same partition, on a fast 7200rpm 16mb cache SATA 1.5gb/s hard drive, can take 5-10 seconds, whereas it's instant on XP for me.
Haha, that's a good question. It actually did suck for the most part when it came out, because in addition to those hardware problems, there were no good games. Nowadays though, the DS Lite is great hardware and there are plenty of great games. Not that I own one anymore, as I usually gravitate back toward only PC gaming and sell my consoles. I'm also not a fan of the lack of depth in most portable games.
Nope, they don't exist, and I wouldn't count on ever seeing one. I think the best AGP ATI card is the X1600-something (although if I was going ATI on AGP I'd probably just get an X850 XT PE).
If you want the best possible AGP card, get BFG's Geforce 7800 GS OC (it's overclocked out of the box and has nice cooling to cover it). I got mine at Best Buy for $185 about a month ago (which I wouldn't normally do, but the same thing was $210 on the 'egg). I'm able to run Oblivion smoothly at 1280x1024 with Ultra High Quality.
felt forced to upgrade to the DS Lite - itself only a cosmetic adjustment.
Um, NO. I could not fucking see my DS Fat in most lighting conditions, accidentally turning it off instead of pressing Start was common, it was too heavy/big to be carried around in a pocket, the battery life wasn't as good, the stylus was too small to handle precisely and comfortably, and the buttons were too flat and clicky. The DS Lite is MUCH more than a cosmetic adjustment.
the question is why they need all the new crap if Doom3 runs fine even with (very old) OpenGL 1.3?
Because Doom 3 doesn't look good by 2007's standards. See the Unreal 3 or Crysis engine for what I'm talking about (and yes, I've seen Quake Wars).
Do games/applications really need all this?
Of course they don't need OGL 2.0 or D3D 9c/10, but games just keep looking better because of the new APIs, and they've got to sell new hardware to the hardcore-early-adopter-have-to-own-the-latest-even -though-they-spend-more-time-benchmarking-than-pla ying gamers to stay in business.
Have you ever listened to integrated audio, and then to a Soundblaster Audigy? I'm not even a sound stickler, and it's immediately apparent switching between my nForce4 audio and my Audigy that the Audigy sound is richer, fuller, and crisper (forgive the marketing-esque words, but it's true).
Unless you're talking about something else (I have no idea what a "Vista board" is...)
And aren't you, as a human, still aware of all the copyrighted DVDs you're feeding to your script? Surely it doesn't go to Wal-Mart and purchase them itself, then bring them back to your DVD drive.
Maybe your analogy would be applicable if movies were something that were freely available to view and download from the internet, and 99.99% of all the movie studios were fine with you copying and redistributing them, and there was a well-known standard procedure for the studios to opt-out of automated reproduction of their movies.
Everyone taking the side of this woman, get with it. This is the fucking internet. Your shit will be viewed, copied, and redistributed by the robots at services that everyone (except you) loves, like Google and the Internet Archive. If you don't like it, at least do the minimal research required to learn either robots.txt or.htaccess.
As far as the robot being too "stupid", let's see you write a perfect natural language processor.
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You're exactly right, my post was more of a dream than a plan rooted in reality. I think you and I have had similar experiences helping people...
Hmm, I've seen some posts claiming not to be able to reproduce this, so I'll reply to myself in the hope this gets read:
This doesn't happen every time you copy a file, just sometimes. I can't put my finger on why, as not only do I not run antivirus software, but I also have Windows Defender disabled. Also, this can happen when nothing else but Windows Explorer is running. There's really just no good reason for it to take that long every 1 in 10 times you copy a file.
While it's very true that ext3 (for example) in Linux is way faster at copying than NTFS in XP, this particular issue with Vista shouldn't be with the filesystem - it uses the same NTFS that XP uses (at least, I'm able to read/write Vista NTFS partitions from within XP...)
I wasn't saying Microsoft was any better, but rather commenting that just telling someone exactly what to do isn't necessarily better than telling them to read the manual.
For example, your typical help-forum-posting Ubuntu user asking how to install something. Maybe if, instead of just guiding them through every letter they type at the console, the helper were to also make them understand what/why they were doing, the user could get a better understanding of how Linux works and figure it out on their own next time.
Or maybe I just have too much faith in education - maybe people should just learn addition tables from one to a million instead of learning how to add any two numbers.
Spot on! The animation is SA-WEET, especially because the copying one is a file that SPLITS INTO TWO IDENTICAL THINGIES. And not only can you watch the animation, but you can move the window around and watch it blur things behind it too!
As far as the file copying goes, I can attest to having experienced the problem the article is about, but not every time I copy. It's even a little bit more annoying that way; sometimes it'll be working great, and you'll copy a file and expect it to work quick and then, unexpectedly, you'll have to wait on that one.
Yes! I enjoy moving around the "Copying..." window while I wait, and watching it blur everything behind it! Seriously! It looks really nice! Try it on Graphite with transparency all the way up!
Cue the "Bill, is that you?" jokes!
This just in! An extremely common and necessary file operation takes about 10 times longer to do in Vista on the exact same hardware! Trust me, it's _really_ annoying. Oh, and this is Slashdot, of course there will be an article about every little thing ;-)
Because people on Slashdot don't actually use the newest Microsoft OS before flaming it, so they wouldn't really know some of the less-publicized-yet-annoying problems like this.
I'd say Slashdot is actually pretty quick at highlighting problems with Vista (try slashdot.org/tags/defectivebydesign), but they don't really pick the right problems to bitch about - it's just "DRM this, Activation that".
Nope, the Ubuntu community just tells noobs to "sudo apt-get this, sudo gedit this and add this line", without explaining what they're doing or why!
That's not XP's fault, that's the fault of the software's uninstaller - it was one of those that manually checks for each file it installed being there, then deletes it, then goes to the next. Those are so annoying! I wish they'd at least give the option to just delete the whole install directory (which XP would do pretty much instantly, even with thousands of files).
I can confirm this. Copying a 10MB file from one directory to another on the same partition, on a fast 7200rpm 16mb cache SATA 1.5gb/s hard drive, can take 5-10 seconds, whereas it's instant on XP for me.
Haha, that's a good question. It actually did suck for the most part when it came out, because in addition to those hardware problems, there were no good games. Nowadays though, the DS Lite is great hardware and there are plenty of great games. Not that I own one anymore, as I usually gravitate back toward only PC gaming and sell my consoles. I'm also not a fan of the lack of depth in most portable games.
Agreed. And to the GP and GGP, nice trolls. Vista boots faster than XP, and both of them boot faster than Linux (and yes, I use all 3).
I'm sure there's already a Java minesweeper clone...
Let's hope when they get around to A again in 20 years, they go with Asshole Alligator.
Omit does work better, but I'd say definition 2 of elide works too.
If you want the best possible AGP card, get BFG's Geforce 7800 GS OC (it's overclocked out of the box and has nice cooling to cover it). I got mine at Best Buy for $185 about a month ago (which I wouldn't normally do, but the same thing was $210 on the 'egg). I'm able to run Oblivion smoothly at 1280x1024 with Ultra High Quality.
Finally, these can be useful!
Oh wait, it only runs on Windows.
Have you ever listened to integrated audio, and then to a Soundblaster Audigy? I'm not even a sound stickler, and it's immediately apparent switching between my nForce4 audio and my Audigy that the Audigy sound is richer, fuller, and crisper (forgive the marketing-esque words, but it's true).
Unless you're talking about something else (I have no idea what a "Vista board" is...)
And aren't you, as a human, still aware of all the copyrighted DVDs you're feeding to your script? Surely it doesn't go to Wal-Mart and purchase them itself, then bring them back to your DVD drive.
.htaccess.
Maybe your analogy would be applicable if movies were something that were freely available to view and download from the internet, and 99.99% of all the movie studios were fine with you copying and redistributing them, and there was a well-known standard procedure for the studios to opt-out of automated reproduction of their movies.
Everyone taking the side of this woman, get with it. This is the fucking internet. Your shit will be viewed, copied, and redistributed by the robots at services that everyone (except you) loves, like Google and the Internet Archive. If you don't like it, at least do the minimal research required to learn either robots.txt or
As far as the robot being too "stupid", let's see you write a perfect natural language processor.
And can you put a no "tresspassing" sign every 300 feet on public property?