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Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) Beta Released
vivaoporto writes "The Beta version of the popular Linux distribution, Ubuntu 7.04, was released today. Codenamed Feisty Fawn, the CD images can be downloaded from the Canonical Servers, and the final version is due to be released next month. Get it while it's hot! Read more about it on the official wiki."
I'm at 130KB/s before this news goes public... I wonder how for it will go down after the story hits the front page...
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How does this compare to the amazing OpenSUSE 10.2?
And I still haven't managed to give away all those 6.06 CDs I got from ShipIt!
Circumcision is child abuse.
I must admit that Windows Vista almost got me. Its not even the eye candy, its just the thought of looking at something different from XP. I can't wait to go from 6.10 to 7.04, I've really enjoyed ubuntu since I siwtched to it from Debian. I hope that wireless and 3D is a bit easier in this release. I also heard that there is an applet that helps install media codecs, that should really come in handy too (Although I think easybuntu does this too)
It's hard enough for me accept the name "Ubuntu", let alone their release names. I wonder if they could have a contest to actually make the version names somehow worse. I'm sure I would get a lot of street cred with the other IT guys when I tell them I run "Feisty Fawn". I'll have to make sure to wear my neckerchief...
Ummm.... I think that's a little off-color.
still a long way to go in terms of usability. A friend of mine recently installed 6.10 for the first time. He's basically never used Linux before. I briefly explained how to use Synaptic. He got the hang of things for a while, but then he interrupted a dpkg process when Synaptic was running by hitting the power button. I have no idea why he did this, but you probably know what happened...he tried to run Synaptic later on and it said 'you have to run dpkg update -a to fix these errors!' or something along those lines. Big mistake number one: it told the user to type in commands at the shell. Big mistake number two: it didn't tell him to use sudo.
He was immediately stuck. He even figured out how to access the shell, but he didn't understand why it kept saying that he needed superuser privileges to continue. The problem with these kinds of things is that if even one little glitch happens like this, the user gets stuck and then usually gives up and goes back to Windows. It has to be perfect. It has to be flawless. Or else it won't attract brand new users.
Take off every sig. For great justice.
I was happy with win98se, even with random BSOD tossed in. WinXP has been o.k. but I'm not ready to hardware up for Vista. I'm already using Firefox, VLC, Torrent, and something besides M$ Paint. Is this Alt OS ready for me ? Can an n00b do Linux ? I have no one to hold my hand.
I'll wait for the first patches after stable... Tipsy Tranny.
Maybe they will call the next one Dogged Doe, or Bold Bunny, or Expert Elephant, or Leaping Lemar, or Fire Fox, or....
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I'm installing Ubuntu (Kubuntu actually, a KDE fan) for the first time, looking to migrate from SUSE. I got a copy of 6.10 and thought I'd use that and then do an in place upgrade to 7.04 next month (from what I read online it was a matter of issuing a single command). What do you guys recommend? A straight up 7.04 beta or 6.10 followed by the upgrade? I'm somewhat of a newbie with ~nix (but with relatively standard hardware). Thanks
I laughed. Does that make me a racist?
Please, If you are new to linux don't run the beta version, Use 6.10 its much better and more supported. The beta is not intended for mainstream use. In the #ubuntu channel on freenode there have been people coming in asking questions about Feisty Fawn for months. Those people belong in #ubuntu+1. The beta releases are not supported by the mainstream support, don't install this and expect to be fully supported.
Kubuntu 7.04
http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.04-beta.php
I hope they fixed the 64bit flash issue with firefox and got wine ported to work on 64bit ubuntu. I am still waiting on 64bit version of wine, there are some docs on howto get 32bit wine installed on the Ubuntu forum. I read that there is a 30% performance increase by having a 64only OS, anyone know anything abt this ?
I did a dist-upgrade from edgy to feisty about three days ago. Nothing has gone downhill and things have only gotten better. I have had a few problems, though I write them off as transitional issues. After all, it was pre-beta software.
My biggest problem has been with the nvidia kernel module. For those who don't know, you can make sure this is installed properly by doing:
sudo aptitude install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` nvidia-glx
This is all well and good but for some reason the nvidia kernel module was just randomly disappearing! No joke. I ended up using module-assistant (sudo it) to build my own nvidia module, which worked great, and got everything working again.
There is a new restricted module manager which explicitly informs you that you are using restricted modules, which may not be supported. The system may have made it easy for you to install binary drivers, but it makes damned sure that you know you're using them and what the downside is.
The network-manager gains zeroconf support in this release, but there's still no WPA options in the network-manager. I thought that was coming in this release? I have network-manager-gnome installed, but it doesn't look anything like this. So I don't know WTF is going on. And I'm in the middle of installing a bunch of packages so I can't find out at this moment, either. The default driver may not support WPA, I wouldn't know, but my network-manager applet still is a pale ghost of what I'm seeing in screenshots.
In general, what most beta users of Feisty are going to notice in comparison to Edgy is graphical. Various theme elements have changed slightly. The biggest change, of course, is the official inclusion of binary drivers, which is much easier to get working. You won't need envy to get those nvidia drivers working any more (assuming you were unable or unwilling to do the install manually, envy seems to have been the most common way to install 'em.) Envy, of course, does not support Feisty.
Early adopters will note that EasyUbuntu and Automatix both still lack Feisty support. Way to test and be ahead of the curve, guys. But of course that's not Ubuntu's fault.
This is a lot less painless than my last experience, attempting to upgrade a somewhat tweaked dapper to edgy. This system is no less tweaked, but the dist-upgrade went fine.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
Anyone know if this'll use ELILO (in particular so I'm not limited to gentoo as my sole choice for installing on a MacTel without Bootcamp?)
(yeah yeah, technically you can do it on most any dist, but I'm not that interesting in hacking it that much)
I've been running it for some time now as I've signed up as a tester some time back. I must say in the past I was a big Ubuntu hater as I am part of another Linux distro's admin staff. However, I gave it a spin and must admit, as far as polish, ease of use, stability and the latest software goes, Ubuntu is by far the ultimate "free as in beer" ditro in my book. My previous biased opinion was quickly shattered. In retrospect I wish I have tried Edgy.
People still talk about Linux on Slashdot? I thought all the threads on this site were either console fanboy shouting matches or about why they should legalize stealing IP.
Today, more and more people opt in for using home RAID arrays, primarily from free chipset controllers that implement RAID 0,1, (5) capabilities in software. It is free performance upgrade for anybody with more than one hard drive.
For long time, no Linux distro would support this 'winRAID'. Then dmraid project was created at RedHat, and soon after, Fedora Core 5,6, SUSE 10.2, and RHEL 5 have installer support for it.
Last I've heard that future Ubuntu releases will contain support for dmraid... does anybody can verify that is the case, that is Ubuntu 7.04 can be installed on RAID0 device created on onboard RAID controller?
http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
This Ubuntu release 7.04 boots faster and is snappier than the previous 6.10. It no longer requires prelinking to increase speed.
From the ubuntu forums:
"UPDATE 1/2/07: Prelink is no longer necessary in Feisty. Feisty uses a new linking mechanism called DT_GNU_HASH which dramatically speeds up the linking process without the need for continuously running the prelink program."
Another great improvement is hardware (esp. wireless and graphics) support.
Now thats progress, each release faster and better than the last.
Don't make your problems my problems!
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Isn't it still March now? Why 7.04 instead of 7.03?
This is a BETA release, read the Tags for this page... if you want the stable grab 6.06 LTS release
09:F9:11:02 - 9D:74:E3:5B - D8:41:56:C5 - 63:56:88:C0
Next release will be "Gaping Goatse". It will give an entirely new meaning to "Open Source"...
The updates are NOT always perfect.
If you've used EasyUbuntu or something like that, you may have problems.
If you're not sure of your comfort level with fixing something like that (or if you depend upon a wireless NIC for connectivity) then you should just go with a clean install.
People with more experience will be able to identify possible problems BEFORE upgrading and also be able to handle them AFTER the upgrade.
I've had no problems but then I use an old NIC and I have a decent amount of Linux experience.
Recently there has been an issue where "hda" suddenly became "sda" and caused some issues for people. Ubuntu changed the way the IDE systems were labeled to make things easier in the future. I noticed when my USB drive changed. This could be a problem for someone with less experience.
I hope to god that ATI has a driver pack in the sources now that works with the x200m in my laptop. That was the only pain in the ass the last time I installed Ubuntu (and it's not even Ubuntu's fault). ATI just decided to screwup their drivers on the latter releases. The card would detect and work great... just no opengl support at all. That just won't work for me, and leads me to a weeks worth of insanity and driver hacking to get it working (more or less).
We can do a great service for Canicals servers and there mirrors if we bit torrent.
:-)
Also because I am downloading this torrent and more people would mean better transfer rates.
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Glad to see that they are finally trying to fix the partition manager. The only way I have been able to try out Ubuntu was on a machine that I didn't worry about blowing away the primary partition. I would have had to blow away my home partition on my windows/linux box with previous releases of Ubuntu. If you check out online forums, you would see that was a fairly common problem.
"He's lost in a 'floyd hole"
But really, why do they insist on these silly code names? I can't see that it makes anything any better, and they do make it worse, since code names cannot be compared like version numbers can. Is it really so that there is no way around it, and in that case, why is that?
Two weeks ago, one of my friends called me. His in-laws were visiting them. Since they are Turkish, they will stay like 6 months with their daughter in US. In order to pass time, they often visit the local library to use internet and read Turkish newspapers.
:)).
Now my friend found an old computer from his company (Pentium III, 750 Mhz, 20GB harddisk) that had Windows 2000 and thought that could save his in-laws a trip to the library. He connected it to his brand new cable connection (without any router). I had warned him earlier that he should at least install a firewall before connecting it to the internet. Of course he didn't listen me and it was the next day after the first run that he called me. Guess what, the computer started showing spam messages (I think that was the messanger bug), so he run an old antivirus program all day and couldn't find anything (the program never finished actually).
Now, he was wondering how he can fix the problem. I said either use a free anti virus or let me install linux. Since he wanted to test drive Linux he opted for it. So we made a deal, his in-laws were going to prepare delicious Turkish food, and meanwhile I was going to install Kubuntu 6.10.
At the beginning, the boot started fine. However, as soon as X11 started the screen went dark. I waited 15 minutes or so since that was the first time I was using Kubuntu 6.10 installer and I thought the machine was doing something. But it turned out that I had downloaded live cd (which had the installer). So spent an hour or so trying a few times, and trying install without going to the live system. I should have read little more, since apparently live cd doesn't have the regular installation options I was expecting to see (they had another CD for that). Anyway, after an hour or so, I had my euroka moment when I pressed Cltr-Alt-F1. Wholla, text console was there. Now, at least I knew machine was up but X11 had problems. So I changed X11 configuration on the live system to vesa and X started working. With the main bottleneck solved, I quickly started installation. The installer was kind enough to ask even if I want to create a partition for windows and let it stay there. My friend just said remove everything, so I just go and selected a few options and the machine was ready in 10 minutes or so. However, when it booted the next time from the hard-drive, it was again X11 with problems so I just modified xconfig file to switch it back to vesa driver. Now, I had a working machine with 800x600 resolution. A quick internet search showed me that the Matrox G250 driver that comes with the driver had a bug. So ubuntu forums had a discussion where somebody recompiled bug-free debian driver for matrox. After installing that, I had 1600x1200 resolution without any problem. Next hour spent on eye-candies. I installed firefox, created bookmarks to the Turkish newspapers, created some bookmarks to in-laws mail providers etc, added some weather and add blocking extensions. I also changed to KDE and Firefox themes to noia (to their dismay, since initially they wanted to have familiar XP interface which my heart didn't let me do it. I complained so much that they let me use Noia
Anyway, to make the long story short, the only think they wanted out-of box was Internet Explorer since some sites explicitly required it and Acrobat Reader. It didn't took very long to install IE (thanks to IEs4Linux) and Adobe already had acroread ready. My friend's wife needed an office program, so the obvious choice was OpenOffice. The final step was the installation of Flash. I also showed them how to use Adept so that they can install whatever they want very easily, and just added a button to kill firefox or IE , in case they had problems.
Since then they are very happy with their system. My main concern which was running KDE on Pentium 3 750Mhz machine with 256MB ram was unfounded. The system is very responsive. I was wondering how long it would stay without crashing, and asked them to let the compute
I just installed one of the betas on my old Toshiba Satellite laptop, and everything works perfectly for me. In fact an odd finding is that I get BETTER reception with my wi-fi card than when it was running Windows XP.
:D
My feelings on the current releases of Ubuntu is that it is getting VERY close to making Linux a potential alternative for average Windows users. The only shortcoming that still exists is that installing applications that are not distributed through Ubuntu is still confusing for 'normal' folks (ie. people who have no background with Linux). It would be nice if Linux would adapt a single universal installer for all Linux apps -- that would bring Linux a lot of people.
Anyways, keep your eyes on this release -- it is nice
I am open source, and Linux baby!
Will I have hardware accelerated 3D video from my NVidia card without having to spend an hour doing Google searches for the proper procedure and drivers, and then spending another hour trying to find ones that actually, you know, WORK?
If not, just stop. I don't care WHY not. I don't care about whining about the genetic licensing purity of an operating system. If it doesn't work, completely, out of the box, then this is of no use at all. OK, I'll even give it a pass on the "out of the box" thing and say this. It's gotta work with no more than 1 trip to NVidia.com to get the latest driver package. Which is all it takes to get working under Windows. I hold every operating system to that VERY LOW standard. It's a low bar to meet. Ubuntu has yet to meet it.
Answers that contain the words "recomplile the kernel" and/or "recompile x11" are from people who really don't get my point.
Since this is the next version of "LTS" does that mean we can get a free set of nice shiny *pressed* cds of this later this year?
---- Booth was a patriot ----
Why is it okay for Windows to "force people to chose something incompatible with other platforms"?
The fact is that these on-board RAID solutions aren't worth it (even when there are vendor drivers available). Use them for the physical connectors and run linux software raid on them. This way you'll probably get better performance, and when you change motherboard, you won't lose access to your volume(s) (or have to find an addon-card with the same chip at the old MB, and waste money and likely a precious PCI-slot)
The correct solution is probably to put the RAID on a dedicated server and use smb to access it from clients instead, and you can stop worrying about whether or not your fav. OS will support your data storage.
Belief is the currency of delusion.
Have you ever checked out StyleXP for Windows XP?
When I ran WinXP full time I used it to install a OS X/Aqua type theme.
Now I use the Vista Transformation Pack to make XP look as much like Vista as is possible.
Mac OS X and Windows XP working side by side to fight back the night.
Giggly Gnu
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Lame Liger
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Numb Nut
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Permissive Penguin
Quaaludinous Quail
Raw-throated Rhinovirus
Submissive Sasquatch
Tasty Tuna on Rye with Lettuce and Tomato, Soda, and Side of Fries
Unpredicable Unexpected Cotton Rat (really, look it up)
Valorous Vampire Bat
Wet Weasel
Xenu's Xliii
Yawny Yeti
Zootropic Zygophyllacea Scale
Towards the Singularity.
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from companies who have demonstrated that their quality control and testing SUCK.
"Get it while it's hot!"
And burn your installation when you do...
No, thanks, I'll wait for the final release - and maybe the first few weeks - or months - of patches - from Kubuntu before I consider upgrading.
And even then, I may "upgrade" back to Mandriva or openSUSE.
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No decent support for a Hauppauge WinTV PVR-350 - none of the usual tv apps like kdetv, zapping, tvtime etc. work.
"Caffinated Chameleon".
I swear that release went by so fast I did not even see it!
Have you read the moderator guidelines? Well, have you, PUNK? (and I want a Karma: Gnarly option)
- The new migration tool recognises Internet Explorer bookmarks, FireFox favourites
One spelling wrong, two menus swapped and a British writing of an "IT term"??
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I'm itching to try this one, and I'm already downloading it!
But please tell me: How hard will it be to upgrade to the final release if I install it to my hard drive?
If it's going to be too hard, I think I'd rather wait.
I've been using Feisty on my PS3 for about a month or two, and on my main desktop for about a week (after upgrading from dapper and edgy). I've used a half dozen other distros, but this one is truly friendly - about equivalent to Mandriva, IMHO, which I've been running for years as my Arcade cabinet/file/print-server.
Beryl looks great, but it still needs more debugging, so it's no wonder they didn't enable it by default. The only real bug I've seen is related to it: where Yakuake occasionally causes X11 to restart when using Beryl.
If anyone's been looking to give Linux a try, download the Live CD when the final release comes out (or at least wait a few weeks from now, after the hardcore Linux users have flushed out any more lingering beta-bugs). You have nothing to lose, and at the very least it's always good to have a second OS for testing when devices mysteriously stop working under Windows.
Ubuntu Hungry Hippo should be nice, but if you want to fix bug number #1 ( https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1 ) and overthrough Microsoft, you'll have t to wait for:
Ubuntu Cuthroat Cthulhu
when all who are called throw down the "Linux for Humans" (whatever that means) facade and bow down to our new overlord.
I'm intrigued, I'm considering Kubuntu instead of Slackware (big leap I know).
How is Mepis "much better [for KDE]"? I don't know anything about Mepis other than the name, I didn't even realise it was an Ubuntu derivative.
Cheers
It's never difficult to upgrade to a final release with Debian-based distros. Just issue 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' once it has been announced.
"We may face a scorched and lifeless earth, but they're accountable to their shareholders first."
You seem to be fairly knowledgeable about bugs and features in 7.04. Do you know (or does anyone else?) how tablet PC support has been evolving in Ubuntu lately? I haven't found a single distro that has good application support for tablets. The requisite input driver for xorg is there and usually works, but the apps are shite.
What is desperately needed is something like Windows Journal. There is Xournal, Gournal and Jarnal, but all three have no "print PDF to journal" feature (which is really what makes this kind of application most useful) and I believe both of the first two have no typed text support. Jarnal is based on Java (ew) and, stereotypically, is desperately slow.
I have a Toshiba Portege M205-S810 that has been begging me for some Linux lovin', but without application support it's rather worthless to run Linux on it.
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Ummm you'd think so, but there were major issues with dist-upgrading from Dapper to Edgy with Ubuntu.
It's now actively discouraged by the ubuntu devs to use dist-upgrade and instead you should use the updating tool in the GUI patch manager thing.
Thanks for the story, I have another one which is probably just one more of many other similar stories out there.
:-)
:-)
I have a friend that was in the same situation; he knew nothing about computers, only needed to access email, surf the web, and edit Office documents. One day the hard drive on his laptop crashed, badly (boot partition got corrupted). Despite a lot of recovery attempts, it finally appeared that the disk was physically corrupted. Luckily for him, I had an old laptop laying around that I had replaced with a new one just a few months earlier. I offer to let him have the hard drive from it as a replacement if he'll let me run an experiment by installing Ubuntu for him to use since he has virtually no technical knowledge. He was actually a little curious, saying "you know, I've heard about this Linux stuff, go ahead and we'll give it a try." After all, in typical Dell fashion, he didn't have his XP installation media anyway.
Well, I got Dapper installed, but my display was locked in at 800x600, which I found out on the forums* was due to:
1) A required BIOS update
2) An edit to xorg.conf (Surprise!)
Upon correcting these issues, we were in business. One thing was for sure though - his 128 MB of RAM wasn't going to cut it (although the Celeron 1.2 Ghz was doing fine). So I plunked down $30 for a 256MB chip for him and the thing was super snappy, including wireless.
I would ask him every so often how everything was going, and he would say that everything was great. After about 2 months I asked him, "Ok, so what do you really think about it?" and he replied, "well, it's kind of like shopping at Aldi's [a local discount market] - everything's kind of generic, but it's got everything you need". Then I laughed. Hard.
So he's still using it to this day, and it's been at least 9 months now. Just the other day he was showing me that he had changed the desktop wallpaper to a funny picture of Borat
The experience definitely taught me to never underestimate the usability of a Linux system for a user with little to no technical knowledge (although having a geek friend helps).
* Without the friendly and informative atmosphere of the forums, ubuntu would not be anywhere near the product that it is today. Good job guys. If only other internet forums could follow your example
Once all the bugs have been worked out, we'll produce a version of Ubuntu with a name that'll be easier to sell to the Corporate Sector: "Pudgy Pinstriper"
He got the hang of things for a while, but then he interrupted a dpkg process when Synaptic was running by hitting the power button [...] The problem with these kinds of things is that if even one little glitch happens like this, the user gets stuck and then usually gives up and goes back to Windows.
Microsoft Windows also wedges when you hit the power button at the wrong point during an upgrade or install. In fact, Microsoft Windows wedges and messes up its configuration sooner or later even when you don't.
So, yes, Synaptic should recognize this case and handle it automatically. No, it's not a showstopper; it happens rarely enough and it's easy to fix.
Did you file a bug report?
7.04 is this release name (as were 6.10 and 6.06).
And, yes, that's "six point ten" not "six one oh", it's Year.Month (and there have been a few discussions on changing it to a dash, or a slash, to prevent confusion, like truncation as 6.1).
Anyway, Those are the REAL names of the releases. Feisty Fawn is just a codename while under development, and only lives on upon release with the repository name. You won't see "Feisty Fawn" anywhere, you'll see "7.04", with 'feisty' when you lsb_release and when you manually edit/browse repositories.
Clones are people two.
dist upgrade isn't recommended because update-manager does it, and some extra stuff (makes sure some metapackages are installed and stuff).
But, in the case of this question, once you've installed 7.04, upgrading to the final release will be identical to upgrading when a new version of a package comes out. update-manager will take care of it.
Clones are people two.
And yet he understood what superuser priviledges were to run Synaptic in the first place ?
This whole situation is what I call "a good mistake". Why ?.. because you have hopefuly taught him the advantages and disadvantages of running as a superuser. I am sure that he now understands the concept of the only way you can truely screw up your Linux system. And surely you have told him why root access is necessary to change things like system settings. So although maybe it was a frightful (but repairable) mistake... good things were learned right ?
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Ubuntu 6.06 sure hasn't given me any problems I couldn't fix. Installation was a breeze. Essentially all my hardware was detected (except a USB modem, which didn't work for some reason -- so big deal, I swapped it out for an external serial modem and that worked fine). Setup was trivial. The system came right up.
/conf file and everything came right back. It was no trouble at all.
.debs using alien. Works great. Every once in a while I download an rpm that's missing some dependencies, so I just find those libs and add 'em and everything works fine.
I've had no trouble at all customizing Ubuntu to look like OS X, downloading ahost of great free software like Xara Extreme, and doing DTP via Scribus and graphics with GIMP and Xara.
Sure, I nuked Synaptic by putting in a bad repository. So I just did sudo nano and edited the
The thing that impresses me about linux is that all the configuration and other files are plain text. If you put in a wrong setting, you can go right in with a text editor and fix it. Try that with the Windows registry.
Now I've moved on to converting rpm packages to
Really, Ubuntu is a lot easier than I expected, and I just haven't had any significant problems installing or using it. Best of all, my Ubutu system comes up about 3 minutes faster than my Windows system because I don't have to waste all that time loading antivirus and firewalls and antispyware and blah blah blah.
Ubuntu just works.
Painful? What, you had to run apt to clear up some packages? :p Most people's problems could be avoided if they removed all the ad-hoc incompatible backports they've downloaded (of Firefox or openoffice.org, as so many posts on ubuntuforums irresponsibly encourage users to do) and binary drivers which no-one should be using.
I upgraded between Fedora Core releases using CD images I burnt, but I stupidly hadn't bothered to check them, and the later ones turned out to be corrupt, and the install went SMEF. Don't panic, I thought I was for it. Heehee, no. The computer booted (admittedly X wouldn't start), and yum was able to finish the install over the net. The only painful bit was making toast while yum performed Floyd's algorithm on the dependancies.
Painful installs only occur at night, anyway.
Don't encourage fresh installs over upgrades, otherwise they might as well install a fresh copy of Windows.
See the problem with this approach is it doesn't deal with those who are running sans desktop.
dist-upgrade has always been a valid tool and the fact that its broken in the later editions of Ubuntu is something that needs to be seriously looked at.
ALL the ACs on Slashdot are swarming around me since I starting making fun of that fool Alec Kowalski! I SHOULD REPUDIATE EVERYTHING I SAID IMMEDIATELY!
Wait... hold on. Look at the way "they" write... hey, wait a second. They're all the same person! This guy is trying to make it look like the whole internet is after me by stalking my Slashdot userpage!
WOW! WHAT A COMPLETE LOSER! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
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that there has yet to be one single post by a logged-in user in support of you.
Now, I'm sure that now that I've said this, you'll create a sockpuppet, but that'll be easy to spot as it will have an extremely high UID.
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This is going to get posted from now on, in ALL of your posts, StarKruzr: You are busted in your lies.
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You have this coming from me (pulling an anonymous luser deal on your like you have to so many others you lying dishonourable coward):
StarKruzr is from Staten Island NY, and this is him (Somebody ought to hunt his ass down and beat him good, he needs it):
http://gallery.r3v3ng.net/albums/BoardyPhotos/jar
StarLOSER is a liar, like usual, and you caught him yet again as I did before online in that much. StarKruzr said he was a woman here:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=227475&cid=18
And, he is not a woman. ROTFLMAO, but surely he isn't much of a man either. Look at that flabby little dweeb!
(No wonder he is pissed @ apk. Anybody that looks like this little flimsy freak will never get laid, not by pretty women @ least. Look @ those hounds he is with, lol!)
StarLOSER also looks a lot younger than grad school age, which he claims to be in, more b.s. on his part, just like his lies he is caught in now above. This grad school status he has been saying here on slashdot for years now (longer than grad school is lol no less) is yet another lie on his part, just as he said he was a woman earlier in the url's above. StarLOSER (lol, good name for him) is doomed to a life of lies. So much for his credibility right? One lie, after another. Yet another he is caught in is this saying he is a woman. What a loser and liar.
StarLOSER has some problems with attacking apk constantly on this board, and here is why (he got his tail beat in by him 2x now, and starloser did attack apk first):
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=161862&thresh
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http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=227563&cid=18
StarLOSER apparently can't handle getting his ass beat in, when he starts up troubles for himself. StarLOSER is a typical little nerd loser who hides behind his keyboard online and talks tuff.
If you read those posts from the url's above? You will see StarLOSER was asked what he had done of note in this field since he cuts others down. StarLOSER, the alleged grad student in this field (bullshit) couldn't put out a thing. ROTFLMAO!
I would not say that is bad ordinarily, but if you're going to attack people that are known as good in this field as apk is, you had better have done better yourself. StarLOSER will never learn.
I put this up for anyone's reference (especially apk if it was you to use against him because he is like this everywhere he goes), so he gets run out of town in shame here for his lies.
"Run out of town in shame?"
What do you think this is? Deadwood? This is the internets, you silly little twit. None of this actually MATTERS -- which is the point you completely failed to understand when you took the bait in the first place.
YOU will never learn, I think. You'll be sitting in your rocking chair at the age of 80 and shaking your fist at your computer whenever someone tells you off on some forum somewhere. What a completely pathetic image.
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