I personally wouldnt pay, but your statement is a bit lacking. Going to make some assumptions...
First you entered on a site that offered OpenOffice and sevral other pieces of software for download.
In order to download, you had to enter our personal information and agree to something thus entering into an agreement. In that agreement you subscribed to my download site which offers high bandwidth downloads of popular (free/shareware) software.
The agreement isn't for the software, but for use ofmy server. For that server i have every legal right to charge you money.
Problem is this case is, prove that the info that was entered, was indeed entered by that person. That said person was over 18 years of age. And that she entered that agreement willingly.
You dont give enough information. Although it is legal to sell openoffice (you charge for packaging a hardcopy, or download), it doesnt mean that the way it is sold constitutes a valid sale.
Further more, there are some european limitations on consumer sales over distance (be it by phone or internet). As a consumer you have some time to reconsider. It greatly depends on what was being sold, and how they did it. If it was unclear that you were buying something, chances are that a court would rule the agreement void. The law favores consumers over companies, since companies a supposed to know what they are doing.
You make a strange assumption. You state that the limiting factor is space, but yet assume they bill for weight. For normal freight the space is the dominant factor, to ship a single container from us to eu cost about $2700. The container may contain about 22000kg say 48000lbs.
doesnt change the fact that shipping still costs far less then the energy saved.
Of course you could do a much more elaborate analysis. Although incandescent lights do generate less light per watt, doesnt mean that the rest of the energy is wasted. The energy not used for light is converted in heat. Which means you have to use less energy for heating.
wow, i'm almost impressed except we have those already for a while.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phileas_(public_transport)
They were supposed to be driverless, but dutch laws reuires a driver to be behind the wheel of a vehicle... Don't know where they got that idea;-)
Since the company is dutch, it might be intresting to see a dutch point of view. Although we are a lot less keen on lawyers and lawsuits on this side of the pond, there have been a few cases about domainnames. Notably case of Proctor & Gamble vs Magenta over ariel.nl. A case wich was lost by proctor & gamble.
From a legal standpoint it could be better to have them make an offer for your work in moving your internet activities to another domain. Tell them you are not seeking to sell your domain, but are willing to considder to move it. And for dutch law quite important, inform them that the domainname is for personal, non commercial use (under dutch laws you can only have trademark violation when used in "economic traffic" i.e. money is involved, whether commercial or charitable)
You might considder the doctor isn't stupid, but simpely covers his/hers own ass... Basicly if you have children with a birth defect you can sue the doctor. You say you are lesbian, and i have no reason to doubt that. You say you won't have children and i have no reason to doubt that either. But I'm not the one getting sued if you lie, and do have children. Basicly as long as you are able to have children, the doctor runs the risk of getting sued...
That why it's fun to live in the Netherlands.
Here it's actually legal to download music, as long as it's for personal use. Mind you that the recording industry would tell you that it's illegal, because when allowing people to download is illegal, how can downloading be legal. But they choose to ignore that downloading is making a copy. And making a copy for personal use is explicitly mentioned in the law as being legal. Wich also means that if i have hundreds of (different) copied CD's they are still legal, as long as i don't sell or distribute them.
The music industry makes it easy to not feel guilty. Whenever i buy media (tape or cdr(w)) i'm forced to pay the music industry because i might make a copy on that media. Since i don't burn music to cdr, i feel ripped off. To combat filesharing record companies are selling music online because that way the artist would get payed. Only the artist translates in something other then musician. Because the musician gets shafted once more. As far as the oil companies are concerned, since they don't bother me i have less of a problem with them. The don't try to force me to drive a particular car only on their sanctioned routes. It's true that they have lot's of influence (pobably too much). But you just don't feel their grip like the one of the record industry
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I personally wouldnt pay, but your statement is a bit lacking. Going to make some assumptions... First you entered on a site that offered OpenOffice and sevral other pieces of software for download. In order to download, you had to enter our personal information and agree to something thus entering into an agreement. In that agreement you subscribed to my download site which offers high bandwidth downloads of popular (free/shareware) software. The agreement isn't for the software, but for use ofmy server. For that server i have every legal right to charge you money. Problem is this case is, prove that the info that was entered, was indeed entered by that person. That said person was over 18 years of age. And that she entered that agreement willingly.
You dont give enough information. Although it is legal to sell openoffice (you charge for packaging a hardcopy, or download), it doesnt mean that the way it is sold constitutes a valid sale. Further more, there are some european limitations on consumer sales over distance (be it by phone or internet). As a consumer you have some time to reconsider. It greatly depends on what was being sold, and how they did it. If it was unclear that you were buying something, chances are that a court would rule the agreement void. The law favores consumers over companies, since companies a supposed to know what they are doing.
You make a strange assumption. You state that the limiting factor is space, but yet assume they bill for weight. For normal freight the space is the dominant factor, to ship a single container from us to eu cost about $2700. The container may contain about 22000kg say 48000lbs. doesnt change the fact that shipping still costs far less then the energy saved. Of course you could do a much more elaborate analysis. Although incandescent lights do generate less light per watt, doesnt mean that the rest of the energy is wasted. The energy not used for light is converted in heat. Which means you have to use less energy for heating.
like i said before... it's already in use here... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phileas_(public_transport)
wow, i'm almost impressed except we have those already for a while. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phileas_(public_transport) They were supposed to be driverless, but dutch laws reuires a driver to be behind the wheel of a vehicle... Don't know where they got that idea ;-)
Since the company is dutch, it might be intresting to see a dutch point of view. Although we are a lot less keen on lawyers and lawsuits on this side of the pond, there have been a few cases about domainnames. Notably case of Proctor & Gamble vs Magenta over ariel.nl. A case wich was lost by proctor & gamble. From a legal standpoint it could be better to have them make an offer for your work in moving your internet activities to another domain. Tell them you are not seeking to sell your domain, but are willing to considder to move it. And for dutch law quite important, inform them that the domainname is for personal, non commercial use (under dutch laws you can only have trademark violation when used in "economic traffic" i.e. money is involved, whether commercial or charitable)
You might considder the doctor isn't stupid, but simpely covers his/hers own ass...
Basicly if you have children with a birth defect you can sue the doctor.
You say you are lesbian, and i have no reason to doubt that. You say you won't have children and i have no reason to doubt that either. But I'm not the one getting sued if you lie, and do have children. Basicly as long as you are able to have children, the doctor runs the risk of getting sued...
That why it's fun to live in the Netherlands. Here it's actually legal to download music, as long as it's for personal use. Mind you that the recording industry would tell you that it's illegal, because when allowing people to download is illegal, how can downloading be legal. But they choose to ignore that downloading is making a copy. And making a copy for personal use is explicitly mentioned in the law as being legal. Wich also means that if i have hundreds of (different) copied CD's they are still legal, as long as i don't sell or distribute them.
The music industry makes it easy to not feel guilty. Whenever i buy media (tape or cdr(w)) i'm forced to pay the music industry because i might make a copy on that media. Since i don't burn music to cdr, i feel ripped off.
To combat filesharing record companies are selling music online because that way the artist would get payed. Only the artist translates in something other then musician. Because the musician gets shafted once more.
As far as the oil companies are concerned, since they don't bother me i have less of a problem with them. The don't try to force me to drive a particular car only on their sanctioned routes. It's true that they have lot's of influence (pobably too much). But you just don't feel their grip like the one of the record industry