l0pht was lots of things, and went through many changes, long before coming close to evolving into "M$'s bitch".
People such as CountZero and myself, who were (some of the) l0pht founders, left l0pht for various reasons before it ever became security consultants VC merger MS monkeyboy fodder.
I sometimes think it would be interesting to set up a little family tree or timeline of the l0pht, it's members, and what it became. There are probably some things that could be learned there, but also probably nothing that couldn't have been learned from other similar groups that had similar roles in different communities and times.
Perhaps it is just best to focus on the future, but not forget the past.
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l0pht was lots of things, and went through many changes, long before coming close to evolving into "M$'s bitch".
People such as CountZero and myself, who were (some of the) l0pht founders, left l0pht for various reasons before it ever became security consultants VC merger MS monkeyboy fodder.
I sometimes think it would be interesting to set up a little family tree or timeline of the l0pht, it's members, and what it became. There are probably some things that could be learned there, but also probably nothing that couldn't have been learned from other similar groups that had similar roles in different communities and times.
Perhaps it is just best to focus on the future, but not forget the past.