Apparently you're the one who didn't "rtfa." The people who order drugs from canada often DO "get the big jars of pills the pharmacists get" because they're ordering a 3 to six month supply at a time.
I guess you also missed the part of the article that reminds us (again) "experts don't expect it to stop there." And the part where they are already making the argument "the cost is great but the need is great" etc.
Go ahead, mod this post down too. You fucking well know I'm right.
There's nothing wrong with Mandrakelinux's gcc packages. They work out of the box for just about everything I've tried, and have done so every version for the past few years.
Yes, that's right - the lot of you just keep repeating to yourselves "there's nothing wrong here - it's always the user's fault when a distribution breaks during an OOTB install..."
I would remind you this attitude of zealotry is what's prevented linux from completely overtaking microsoft until now, but I'm sure you won't care since "linux doesn't need more users."
That's OK too - like I said: I've left mandrake in the dust and don't care to look back. You lot enjoy your circle jerk and keep buying plenty of that french whine!
It's me and thanks. But I don't get what you're talking with "could have been." Ubuntu is a pretty new distro (at least "offically") and it's pretty widely popular with the folks I know who have tried it. And with the stated mission being to remain "free as in everything" it's a safe bet it's going to continue to grow in popularity.
I like the name. It's even prompted me to learn more about south africa and the zulu, which (I think) was part of the reason for choosing the name. Nangamalungelo!
I've run suse and wasn't any more impressed with their "yummy" installer than with urpmi. None of the rpm tools I've tried have been able to keep up with synaptic running debs, and I even tried the synaptic installer on fedora. So yes, I would say that, compared to the system on ubuntu (deb packages with synaptic), RPM sucks ass. It can't just be the installer, because the same installer still didn't work as well when it had to grok with RPM.
Not to mention tracking. Since they're having to put them on labels here in the states you can bet they'll just put them on all of'em rather than segregate the gene pool - which will make drugs imported from canada oh so much easier to detect.
How long you think it will be before the post office is equipped with scanners for these things? Of course they'll argue it's to "protect us from terrorists that are trying to taint our drug supply..."
they use bsd and that's "open source." But their version of bsd doesn't give you access to that gee-whiz desktop, and contributing under apple's "open source" license gives them all the rights to your code but everyone else has to pay if they say so. People still contribute to that project, and Apple still gets to charge for every OS. Granted they're talkign about giving away Solaris, but their customers are corporate, not home users, and corporate customers buy expensive service contracts (that is if sun still has any solaris customers).
Java is "open source." Has been "since day one" (I guess). If it's so free why isn't it included with so many linux distributions? Because it ISN'T FREE. It's "open" - that ain't free. I can read a book cover to cover, but that don't mean I can republish it, altered or otherwise.
But I will tell you anyway. I ran mandrake for a long time. they changed gcc systems with every release, and seemed to install it broken about half the time. Until this most recent switch (when I left them forever) I had been using mdk10.1 "community" for the last few months and have been completely unable to get the damn compiler to work even to run basic make-installs on simple stuff like rar and divfix.
So, every time I wanted to install something I had to spend hours looking up shit on rpm.pbone and hoping I could find all the packages it needed to solve the dependancies. Even with urpmi (which is inarguably better than basic RPM) it was not uncommon for the installer to get completely stumped and either give up or just mangle the OS. The times I tried to upgrade gnome resulted in my having to perform a complete reinstall over the mess it made of my desktop. and because I use an encrypted userland it NEVER shut down because of the way it (and last I tried, RH) deals with encrypted partitions (although that's another unrelated point I mention it because I find it hilarious they've apparently been given a bunch of money to develop a "secure linux" - good luck France, you're gonna need it.)
With ubuntu "upgrades" are about two clicks and a lotta downloading away. If you're on a broadband link I doubt you'd ever have to reinstall, because the package installer is so very reliable. It's not perfect, but compared to RPM it's like running linux in seven league boots.
RPM sucks ass. I used mandrake for the longest, but never again. I never realized how easy linux could be until I used a debian distribution.
Ubuntu is a fantastic distribution, easy to install and with good support. It's a single CD which they will send you free for the asking and, because it uses debian, you can order an assload of easy to install software on 7Cds for about ten bucks. I don't have broadband either but I do if I take my laptop into town, but even with all that free bandwidth it's still cheaper just to order the CDs (even at a couple MBps it takes HOURS to download seven CDs!)
This was posted early in the day and still less than two dozen comments? I think that says a lot about the state of mandrake.
I used mandrake a very long time. But I got sick of the difficulty in upgrading, the long time delays, the lack of decent support. Mandrake is very easy to install, but I have always found it a pain in the ass to upgrade or even install anything that's not included on the CDs. The urpmi installer is an improvement on rpm, but that ain't saying much since rpm sucks so bad.
The main thing I always disliked about mandrake was the segregation of distributions. It's a decent enough system, but the community around it seems almost fanatical about the money. The websites are a goddamn confusing mess and just getting a basic question answered requires you to fill out all sorts of crap and then pay them money even to the "volunteer specialists" that list themselves on the site. (The irony is the website is so bad I personally found it not worth the effort even when I had my credit card in hand and was ready to send them 30 bucks for an answer to a support question.)
Even in the newsgroups anyone who mentions the idea of (ohmygosh!) running "the good version" of mandrake without tithing them draws a barrage of insults. Quite frankly, I find the overall tone of the project way more offensive than even that of some of the more overtly commercial efforts like Lindows (er, "Linspire") and Suse, both of which have much friendlier support communities. (Must be a French thing!)
I've been using ubuntu now for a while, and I ain't looking back. It's a very nice distribution and the software installer is fantastic. But more importantly, it has some fantastic people in the support community and the project espouses a wonderfully idealistic concept of "free."
MP3s stand out in my music collection like a sore thumb because even at 320kbps they still sound "soft" and have a hard time playing gapless. This isn't a problem with the player, it's a problem with the format, and it will remain so.
I'm not sayng this to choose sides from the only two players apparently mentioned here - If you want free you need to go with ogg vorbis, flac, or some such equivalent. I don't use MP3 for my own stuff, I don't use aac, and I'm sure not giving my money to either of these corporate raiders, cuz they both suck. People arguing over which one of these comapnies is "best" is as meaningless as arguing over which end of the egg to crack.
At least LOAD was free and ran on any winoze peecee. Unless that ten bucks a month is going to be invested into licensing some exclusive content that doesn't suck I don't see anything here that one couldn't get with any other broadband enabled computer.
I've seen some pretty remarkable community access stuff. Granted it came from NY or LA, but there's some good stuff out there... and I don't must mean "Justin's Filthy Friends" or Dr. Susan Block.
However, I don't think you understand art at all. go listen to "Kim" by Charlie Parker - or just about any live performance by Myles Davis - and you'll hear scads of "stolen" riffs... and every on of them original. Tell us how Portishead and Goldfrapp aren't "original" in their musical treatment of those "samples."
Don't blame your lack of appreciation for the neoclassical and post-modern on the artists or the music industry. There's plenty of valid critiques to make of the contemporary music industry, but none of them are apparent in your comments.
Remember: "If it's too loud, you're too old." It's not the music that sucks, grandpa, it's just that you're getting old and losing your sense of smell. Once that goes it all tastes the same.
There's a lot of great music out there - just turn off the tv and the radio and listen for it. I'm over 40 and boy am I glad I'm not as old as you!
Once upon a time college radio was good, but the good stations are scattered far and wide now. Most college radio stations have program directors and playlists and feed off record industry kickbacks just like all the others. It's still just the same 40 songs over and over and over, it's just not the same 40 songs they play on top 40.
The newsgroups and the Magnatunes are where it's at.
Dude, get a clue. There are way more than two "sides" to this and many of us couldn't stand either of these guys. Don't think that a low third party vote count equates with unity within EITHER of the corporate parties.
Both those fuckers have to go, and this last election as just more proof of the power of the divide and conquer strategy. Do you really think the people in power in this country really care whether a democrat or republican sits in the white house?
No matter where they're based, what have we heard from Ximian since they were purchased? Aside from the occasional talk about connector Ximian is all but dead in the press. The only press one sees anymore is related to Evolution, and even that's not so hot. Once upon a time there were almost weekly Ximian headlines, now where is it? They bought Suse two releases ago and they still don't even ship it with a proper gnome desktop, much less a full featured gnome/ximian/mono desktop.
Thank god it's GPL so Novell can't kill the project entirely.
I have a mini system I put together from parts. It's a nice enough case (an off-brand minitower I got from computer geeks) but it - like just about every single mini system I've seen - has these damn doors over the ports on the front. The cdr door isn't too bad (except that it also means you have to remove the front of the drawer on the drive thus leaving the noiseproofing gasket out of the picture, which means going back four years to listening to jet engine takeoffs every time you use a DVD or CD) but the doors on the connectors mean your stuck with two choices:
1) never use the front panel jacks
2) use the front panel jacks and risk damage to the cheap plastic doors thus ensuring your nice looking system eventually looks like ass.
Of course, 1) isn't foolproof either, since it's incredibly easy to break on of these things off at the hinges just by laying it in the car seat wrong.
I can't stand those cubes with the jacks sticking out the front like some afterthought, either - but would it really be so hard to stick all those jacks in a nice even row at the bottom of the case behind a black rubber or felt gasket? Maybe use those black nylon fibers like at the end of vacuum cleaner dust attachments. It would look nice, be unbreakable, and only slightly more cumbersome to connect (Where's the hole? I know it's here somewhere...")
Anything other than flimsy plastic doors would be an improvement... especially at 650 fucking dollars! Yeesh!
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I guess you also missed the part of the article that reminds us (again) "experts don't expect it to stop there." And the part where they are already making the argument "the cost is great but the need is great" etc.
Go ahead, mod this post down too. You fucking well know I'm right.
Yes, that's right - the lot of you just keep repeating to yourselves "there's nothing wrong here - it's always the user's fault when a distribution breaks during an OOTB install..."
I would remind you this attitude of zealotry is what's prevented linux from completely overtaking microsoft until now, but I'm sure you won't care since "linux doesn't need more users."
That's OK too - like I said: I've left mandrake in the dust and don't care to look back. You lot enjoy your circle jerk and keep buying plenty of that french whine!
It's me and thanks. But I don't get what you're talking with "could have been." Ubuntu is a pretty new distro (at least "offically") and it's pretty widely popular with the folks I know who have tried it. And with the stated mission being to remain "free as in everything" it's a safe bet it's going to continue to grow in popularity.
I like the name. It's even prompted me to learn more about south africa and the zulu, which (I think) was part of the reason for choosing the name. Nangamalungelo!
I've run suse and wasn't any more impressed with their "yummy" installer than with urpmi. None of the rpm tools I've tried have been able to keep up with synaptic running debs, and I even tried the synaptic installer on fedora. So yes, I would say that, compared to the system on ubuntu (deb packages with synaptic), RPM sucks ass. It can't just be the installer, because the same installer still didn't work as well when it had to grok with RPM.
Not to mention tracking. Since they're having to put them on labels here in the states you can bet they'll just put them on all of'em rather than segregate the gene pool - which will make drugs imported from canada oh so much easier to detect.
How long you think it will be before the post office is equipped with scanners for these things? Of course they'll argue it's to "protect us from terrorists that are trying to taint our drug supply..."
A 1GHz PIII will kick a 2GHz P4's ass in "feel." Sure would be nice to see some multi-mobile core technology for the desktop. Imagine a beowulf cl...
they use bsd and that's "open source." But their version of bsd doesn't give you access to that gee-whiz desktop, and contributing under apple's "open source" license gives them all the rights to your code but everyone else has to pay if they say so. People still contribute to that project, and Apple still gets to charge for every OS. Granted they're talkign about giving away Solaris, but their customers are corporate, not home users, and corporate customers buy expensive service contracts (that is if sun still has any solaris customers).
Java is "open source." Has been "since day one" (I guess). If it's so free why isn't it included with so many linux distributions? Because it ISN'T FREE. It's "open" - that ain't free. I can read a book cover to cover, but that don't mean I can republish it, altered or otherwise.
But I will tell you anyway. I ran mandrake for a long time. they changed gcc systems with every release, and seemed to install it broken about half the time. Until this most recent switch (when I left them forever) I had been using mdk10.1 "community" for the last few months and have been completely unable to get the damn compiler to work even to run basic make-installs on simple stuff like rar and divfix.
So, every time I wanted to install something I had to spend hours looking up shit on rpm.pbone and hoping I could find all the packages it needed to solve the dependancies. Even with urpmi (which is inarguably better than basic RPM) it was not uncommon for the installer to get completely stumped and either give up or just mangle the OS. The times I tried to upgrade gnome resulted in my having to perform a complete reinstall over the mess it made of my desktop. and because I use an encrypted userland it NEVER shut down because of the way it (and last I tried, RH) deals with encrypted partitions (although that's another unrelated point I mention it because I find it hilarious they've apparently been given a bunch of money to develop a "secure linux" - good luck France, you're gonna need it.)
With ubuntu "upgrades" are about two clicks and a lotta downloading away. If you're on a broadband link I doubt you'd ever have to reinstall, because the package installer is so very reliable. It's not perfect, but compared to RPM it's like running linux in seven league boots.
Open source does not always equate with free (as in speech). Do we really need to cover this (yet) again?
Ubuntu is a fantastic distribution, easy to install and with good support. It's a single CD which they will send you free for the asking and, because it uses debian, you can order an assload of easy to install software on 7Cds for about ten bucks. I don't have broadband either but I do if I take my laptop into town, but even with all that free bandwidth it's still cheaper just to order the CDs (even at a couple MBps it takes HOURS to download seven CDs!)
This was posted early in the day and still less than two dozen comments? I think that says a lot about the state of mandrake.
I used mandrake a very long time. But I got sick of the difficulty in upgrading, the long time delays, the lack of decent support. Mandrake is very easy to install, but I have always found it a pain in the ass to upgrade or even install anything that's not included on the CDs. The urpmi installer is an improvement on rpm, but that ain't saying much since rpm sucks so bad.
The main thing I always disliked about mandrake was the segregation of distributions. It's a decent enough system, but the community around it seems almost fanatical about the money. The websites are a goddamn confusing mess and just getting a basic question answered requires you to fill out all sorts of crap and then pay them money even to the "volunteer specialists" that list themselves on the site. (The irony is the website is so bad I personally found it not worth the effort even when I had my credit card in hand and was ready to send them 30 bucks for an answer to a support question.)
Even in the newsgroups anyone who mentions the idea of (ohmygosh!) running "the good version" of mandrake without tithing them draws a barrage of insults. Quite frankly, I find the overall tone of the project way more offensive than even that of some of the more overtly commercial efforts like Lindows (er, "Linspire") and Suse, both of which have much friendlier support communities. (Must be a French thing!)
I've been using ubuntu now for a while, and I ain't looking back. It's a very nice distribution and the software installer is fantastic. But more importantly, it has some fantastic people in the support community and the project espouses a wonderfully idealistic concept of "free."
Every king dies.
Actually, I think nonsense like this hearkens back to a story about tulip bulbs and unsustainable markets.
The end is coming for the corporate kings, and it's nonsense like this that will expedite their demise.
Go, Bill, Go...
MP3s stand out in my music collection like a sore thumb because even at 320kbps they still sound "soft" and have a hard time playing gapless. This isn't a problem with the player, it's a problem with the format, and it will remain so.
I'm not sayng this to choose sides from the only two players apparently mentioned here - If you want free you need to go with ogg vorbis, flac, or some such equivalent. I don't use MP3 for my own stuff, I don't use aac, and I'm sure not giving my money to either of these corporate raiders, cuz they both suck. People arguing over which one of these comapnies is "best" is as meaningless as arguing over which end of the egg to crack.
It didn't fly five years ago when this sort of thing was relatively unique, I sure don't see it flying now.
This has the fingerprints of Warstler all over it. Morgan, are you out there?
"Ahh, good times..."
I've seen some pretty remarkable community access stuff. Granted it came from NY or LA, but there's some good stuff out there... and I don't must mean "Justin's Filthy Friends" or Dr. Susan Block.
However, I don't think you understand art at all. go listen to "Kim" by Charlie Parker - or just about any live performance by Myles Davis - and you'll hear scads of "stolen" riffs... and every on of them original. Tell us how Portishead and Goldfrapp aren't "original" in their musical treatment of those "samples."
Don't blame your lack of appreciation for the neoclassical and post-modern on the artists or the music industry. There's plenty of valid critiques to make of the contemporary music industry, but none of them are apparent in your comments.
Remember: "If it's too loud, you're too old." It's not the music that sucks, grandpa, it's just that you're getting old and losing your sense of smell. Once that goes it all tastes the same.
There's a lot of great music out there - just turn off the tv and the radio and listen for it. I'm over 40 and boy am I glad I'm not as old as you!
Once upon a time college radio was good, but the good stations are scattered far and wide now. Most college radio stations have program directors and playlists and feed off record industry kickbacks just like all the others. It's still just the same 40 songs over and over and over, it's just not the same 40 songs they play on top 40.
The newsgroups and the Magnatunes are where it's at.
what record company do you work for?
Dude, get a clue. There are way more than two "sides" to this and many of us couldn't stand either of these guys. Don't think that a low third party vote count equates with unity within EITHER of the corporate parties.
Both those fuckers have to go, and this last election as just more proof of the power of the divide and conquer strategy. Do you really think the people in power in this country really care whether a democrat or republican sits in the white house?
No matter where they're based, what have we heard from Ximian since they were purchased? Aside from the occasional talk about connector Ximian is all but dead in the press. The only press one sees anymore is related to Evolution, and even that's not so hot. Once upon a time there were almost weekly Ximian headlines, now where is it? They bought Suse two releases ago and they still don't even ship it with a proper gnome desktop, much less a full featured gnome/ximian/mono desktop.
Thank god it's GPL so Novell can't kill the project entirely.
I have a mini system I put together from parts. It's a nice enough case (an off-brand minitower I got from computer geeks) but it - like just about every single mini system I've seen - has these damn doors over the ports on the front. The cdr door isn't too bad (except that it also means you have to remove the front of the drawer on the drive thus leaving the noiseproofing gasket out of the picture, which means going back four years to listening to jet engine takeoffs every time you use a DVD or CD) but the doors on the connectors mean your stuck with two choices:
1) never use the front panel jacks
2) use the front panel jacks and risk damage to the cheap plastic doors thus ensuring your nice looking system eventually looks like ass.
Of course, 1) isn't foolproof either, since it's incredibly easy to break on of these things off at the hinges just by laying it in the car seat wrong.
I can't stand those cubes with the jacks sticking out the front like some afterthought, either - but would it really be so hard to stick all those jacks in a nice even row at the bottom of the case behind a black rubber or felt gasket? Maybe use those black nylon fibers like at the end of vacuum cleaner dust attachments. It would look nice, be unbreakable, and only slightly more cumbersome to connect (Where's the hole? I know it's here somewhere...")
Anything other than flimsy plastic doors would be an improvement... especially at 650 fucking dollars! Yeesh!
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