No, I like it much more with Linux. But I guess its all about what you use it for. For 3,000 or pages, OO was much better then Word. Word was very unreliable, OpenOffice had better intergration (for my workflow at least) with Calc. OO has finer control over layout too. For me, Word had the better features. Also, I can call OO Calc and Writer with command line scripts to update them without ever opening the software, which is handy. Does Word's XML let you do that now too?
Sometimes noticed the slow, but not often. I had OO on Linux and Office on Windows, and I would much rather do large documents in OO on Linux. Office feels slower, and your large document in Office is either corrupt or about to be.
Yes. They also help their users learn Linux due to Ubuntu's fragile nature. Well Done!
Seriously, the clockwork new release takes some of that pain out, but as a long time user of Debian, and its derivatives, I do find that Ubuntu has some really bad problems upgrading and for long term stability.
Yeah I call bullshit. Adobe please DIE already. I praised you when you made a Linux flash client, I thought you were at least trying, but with the new Adobe spec, and now this utter crap, I wish you would just go away.
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I noticed that too. Why are we blaming the Devs for this though? I didnt see it as an option in my distro (Debian) until it was useful (4.2?). I seriously doubt anyone built it from source and then were annoyed. It would seem to me that the distro makers should take the rap for this one.
False. Most unions base a state workers wage (plus benefits) at a percentage of the private sector equivalent. For example, most interns at Microsoft make more then a 3 or 4 year IT worker at a state job.
Perhaps your argument should be more like this: if there is a 20% reduction in jobs in the private sector, then a similar reduction in public services (positions) must follow.
Thats a good idea! And while they waste time writing and debating it in special session, the costs to get that bill moved through will cause the net value to be nothing.
Oddly enough, if they stopped using Microsoft products they could recoup a large amount of that money anyways. I have reviewed the IT expenditures of several state agencies and they are blowing money like its no tomorrow, but they have no clue how to get efficiencies because they are so star struck by the crap MS has been dishing out to them for years.
I dont care which side they are on, but as long as you speak of KDE: KDE you can click the title bar to push to back. KDE you can click to maximize horizontally only. KDE you can click to maximize vertically only. KDE can pin to all desktops KDE can have the same application windows behaviour set by activity (desktop).
I dont care where the buttons are, but I expect most desktops to have some of these basic functionalities. .
Shocked at that statement. I have three environments, KDE, Gnome, and Windows. KDE is by far the most productive environment. Windows lacks so many features it simply hurts to use it, and for each feature thats similar Windows takes up too much real estate and takes waaay too many clicks. Gnome is the decent compromise, dont think, no particular workflow, just jump in and go. There is a place for that too.
Sorry you were marked a troll for speaking truth. There a flashy objects with transparencies with a poorly matched color scheme. Annoying? Check. Still havent figured out decent uses for right clicking, mouse selecting, functional clipboard using, system wide spelling and finally single clicking? Check.
Windows guys get more money? Then why is it so fscking ugly? It just keeps getting worse. And using more space. Its more like "look shiny objects" in a color scheme that makes no sense with moving things! Gnome is simple I will give you that, but its functional. KDE is complex, but form meets function (windows 7 barely scratches the surface of what KDE can do).
Where is this "real world"? In my experience its been users use whatever crap their computer came with or what they use at the office. Average IT shops are too damn stupid to even think they could get by with an alternative PDF writer, even though they could save a bundle of money. And there's the problem. In the "real world" poorly educated masses of IT shops do a poor job by believing their vendors. Sooner or later the competitive edge will adjust that equation, and I for one would rather be on the leading edge then watch it go by.
I don't get that one at all. It's windows that always needs my attention, hardly ever the linux boxes. Ubuntu can be a bit more annoying then I like, so while I will install it for some people because it is easy to use, it does require more attention and breaks more often then other Linux distros I use, but over all it just works and requires much less explanation to the end user.
Linux is just as easy to maintain offline, in some ways easier (lack of license restrictions, knowing dependencies before you install etc.) copy the files to a CD or DVD and install them elsewhere.
Yes DLL hell isnt what it used to be, but there still is a nasty registry that can become corrupt, and when you install various software on windows it often thinks that it should be the one to control that filetype. That can get very annoying fast.
If its not in your repository, it could be a pain, this is true, although you can easy make a Debian package for a Debian system that you can remove as needed. I long ago moved away from RPM/YUM so I can't speak to that. However, from my point of view, it is the well maintained repository that Linux gets right, not windows. Who knows what software will clobber other software in a windows environment?
As a linux user, the reboot because you installed something is sure strange..... I usually measure the uptime in months or years, but whatever works for you....
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No, I like it much more with Linux. But I guess its all about what you use it for. For 3,000 or pages, OO was much better then Word. Word was very unreliable, OpenOffice had better intergration (for my workflow at least) with Calc. OO has finer control over layout too. For me, Word had the better features. Also, I can call OO Calc and Writer with command line scripts to update them without ever opening the software, which is handy. Does Word's XML let you do that now too?
Sometimes noticed the slow, but not often. I had OO on Linux and Office on Windows, and I would much rather do large documents in OO on Linux. Office feels slower, and your large document in Office is either corrupt or about to be.
Yes. They also help their users learn Linux due to Ubuntu's fragile nature. Well Done!
Seriously, the clockwork new release takes some of that pain out, but as a long time user of Debian, and its derivatives, I do find that Ubuntu has some really bad problems upgrading and for long term stability.
I am using Iceweasel 3.5.12 from Debian Sid and I get 59 FPS. 1680x1050 many tabs open and downloading and running lucky backup....
Yeah I call bullshit. Adobe please DIE already. I praised you when you made a Linux flash client, I thought you were at least trying, but with the new Adobe spec, and now this utter crap, I wish you would just go away.
SO is violating the clean water act.
I noticed that too. Why are we blaming the Devs for this though? I didnt see it as an option in my distro (Debian) until it was useful (4.2?). I seriously doubt anyone built it from source and then were annoyed. It would seem to me that the distro makers should take the rap for this one.
And it shows.
But instead, the special session in WA right now is costing us extra. Nice huh?
False. Most unions base a state workers wage (plus benefits) at a percentage of the private sector equivalent. For example, most interns at Microsoft make more then a 3 or 4 year IT worker at a state job.
Perhaps your argument should be more like this: if there is a 20% reduction in jobs in the private sector, then a similar reduction in public services (positions) must follow.
Thats a good idea! And while they waste time writing and debating it in special session, the costs to get that bill moved through will cause the net value to be nothing.
Oddly enough, if they stopped using Microsoft products they could recoup a large amount of that money anyways. I have reviewed the IT expenditures of several state agencies and they are blowing money like its no tomorrow, but they have no clue how to get efficiencies because they are so star struck by the crap MS has been dishing out to them for years.
Um mono is not complete, and .NET often requires winforms?
I dont care which side they are on, but as long as you speak of KDE:
KDE you can click the title bar to push to back.
KDE you can click to maximize horizontally only.
KDE you can click to maximize vertically only.
KDE can pin to all desktops
KDE can have the same application windows behaviour set by activity (desktop).
I dont care where the buttons are, but I expect most desktops to have some of these basic functionalities.
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Shocked at that statement. I have three environments, KDE, Gnome, and Windows. KDE is by far the most productive environment. Windows lacks so many features it simply hurts to use it, and for each feature thats similar Windows takes up too much real estate and takes waaay too many clicks.
Gnome is the decent compromise, dont think, no particular workflow, just jump in and go. There is a place for that too.
Sorry you were marked a troll for speaking truth. There a flashy objects with transparencies with a poorly matched color scheme. Annoying? Check. Still havent figured out decent uses for right clicking, mouse selecting, functional clipboard using, system wide spelling and finally single clicking? Check.
Windows guys get more money? Then why is it so fscking ugly? It just keeps getting worse. And using more space. Its more like "look shiny objects" in a color scheme that makes no sense with moving things! Gnome is simple I will give you that, but its functional. KDE is complex, but form meets function (windows 7 barely scratches the surface of what KDE can do).
Where is this "real world"? In my experience its been users use whatever crap their computer came with or what they use at the office. Average IT shops are too damn stupid to even think they could get by with an alternative PDF writer, even though they could save a bundle of money. And there's the problem. In the "real world" poorly educated masses of IT shops do a poor job by believing their vendors. Sooner or later the competitive edge will adjust that equation, and I for one would rather be on the leading edge then watch it go by.
I don't get that one at all. It's windows that always needs my attention, hardly ever the linux boxes. Ubuntu can be a bit more annoying then I like, so while I will install it for some people because it is easy to use, it does require more attention and breaks more often then other Linux distros I use, but over all it just works and requires much less explanation to the end user.
Linux is just as easy to maintain offline, in some ways easier (lack of license restrictions, knowing dependencies before you install etc.) copy the files to a CD or DVD and install them elsewhere.
Yes DLL hell isnt what it used to be, but there still is a nasty registry that can become corrupt, and when you install various software on windows it often thinks that it should be the one to control that filetype. That can get very annoying fast.
If its not in your repository, it could be a pain, this is true, although you can easy make a Debian package for a Debian system that you can remove as needed. I long ago moved away from RPM/YUM so I can't speak to that.
However, from my point of view, it is the well maintained repository that Linux gets right, not windows. Who knows what software will clobber other software in a windows environment?
As a linux user, the reboot because you installed something is sure strange.....
I usually measure the uptime in months or years, but whatever works for you....
Corrected again:
Install a rolling Linux distro and live problem free.
Compared to Nuke it and take the 10 minutes to put Linux on it and not have this trouble again........
Um no need for a book. You can get a live DVD for as little as $6 or as much as $20 with a magazine.